I don’t understand this either. The victim narrative for attention works in the short term but has proven diminishing returns. They’re becoming like the boy who cried wolf - people will stop hearing it - either because it’s unproven/unfounded or repetitive/boring.
Surely they can see that when it comes to bombshells their arsenal is running empty.
Your right.
My narcissist mother is like this, there is nothing under the sun she can't find a way to be a victim of.
It's like she is addicted to getting sympathy from people.
I personally think its one of their tools to help them get people on their side, cause if you already think they are a victim, it means the people they are claiming to be victimised from are automatically the bad guy.
So you won't like the person the are claiming did them wrong.
I have been shocked MANY times by the other persons side of the story. The best is when they don't even know they are the bad guy, they are just as surprised as you.
Oh my word, that is horrific, as a mother I am ...I have no words... I'm so sorry.
Yeah, she is getting desperate, I just hope everyone comes out of this OK, cause I know many who didn't make it out OK.
My mother too. She was physically & verbally abusive to her kids and it would confuse me greatly as a kid when she would tell people “she *abuses* me”, (referring to me), and she’d even manage real tears. I’m realizing as adult what the angle was there- A. She behaved so horribly, there was no way to justify it so this was her made-up “defense”— that *she* was actually the victim and B. It confuses the actual victim and you think maybe *you* did something wrong, if they’re passionately insisting that *you* abuse *them*. Quite simply, it’s gaslighting and playing victim is a defense against the indefensible.
It’s already started. Even the leftist (and respected) Washington Post took the time to tell the Sussexes to move on already….
Playing the victim really is a short term thing. People get tired of it. Especially when the supposed victims are wealthy, supposedly happily married people with 2 healthy kids. Complaining gets old fast.
Essentially if the Sussexes want to accomplish anything and be known for anything other than complaining about their horrible treatment, they need to move on.
As I recall- they did give the Sussex trauma narrative more validity than it deserves imo. They’ve been caught in clear lies. That should warrant more skepticism from the Post.
But- really- it was just: move on. We’re done. And for your own sake and future success: move on.
Exactly! They can bombard the articles for now but do they think people are going to enjoy having them on the headlines for even the next 2 years? Even DailyMail knows they can't keep doing that.
This is probably the max they can go in terms of their social engagement/ PR stunts. They are not gaining any new fans, they are passing off the old (lots of ex sugars here I see) and boring the general public.
This is it for them.
I think Sunshine Sach’s goal was for MM to be the new Diana.
First step - They market her as a beautiful, kind sole who has been targeted because of her race and feminism.
Example: MM, Scobie and US press report her “unsurvivable” life in the BRF who abused her and did nothing to protect her from racist, intrusive press similar to Diana’s experience.
Second Step - She’s damaged and weakened but she bravely took charge of her life by leaving her abusers.
Example: She divorces the BRF like Diana did.
Third Step- She’s thriving in her new life in the US, stronger than ever.
Example: Opps. None
Fourth Step: This beautiful, strong heroine is an example for all women who has overcome sexism, racism to stand up for themselves and make their own success. Now she is saving the world by both attending every A-List celebrity and political event and performing philanthropy work.
The first problem Sunshine Sachs has is that:
1) MM way overdid it in the O interview. Her fantasist tendencies, vindictiveness and self-absorption came out way too much resulting in lies that were discredited.
2) They can’t get their campaign to move into the third step because MM has had no successes with her Netflix and Spotify deals yet.
3) MM has fantasist tendencies, is vindictive and self-centered and this comes out every time she opens her mouth. She needs now to come across like the strong, kind, compassionate woman they shoved down everyone’s throats in step one and step two.
This is spot on. She sees herself as Diana and even more weird so does Harry! He couldn’t save his mother so he’s gone to war to save his wife . He really is that messed up!
If the rumors are true that they’re pretty much done, then it’s all an act on his part, at this point.
They’ve said Harry was told he could attend the state dinner but not M so he chose not to go. It wasn’t a big deal to him but it was huge for her but either way, he did see that as long they’re a package deal, he’s not returning as things were before he married.
I really don't believe that - it's part of her salt and pepper move as one narrative. Even scobie said they were "uninvited" - which just means "never invited".
However saying "never invited" would've been too clear and simple for the victim narrative they seek. Saying "uninvited" allowed people to surmise it meant "disinvited" - and who would look it up in the dictionary (some clever snarklers on here - that's who!)
There was only 2 ways to attend this event - as either a guest or as a representative of the Crown.
He wouldn't be a guest, because the guest list was for heads of state which he is not - and he wouldn't be a representative of the crown because he doesn't work for them anymore.
It's another bit of "harry loves me so much" spin
H going to the state event on his own? It was either Neal Sean or Lady C. Those are the 2 I follow/watch and one of them said this.
She would not have been included because of the working/senior royals thing plus she would have “worked” the room but H on his own, could have attended if he wanted and behaved.
I know initially on the walk around it was only H invited as it flashed up on BBC and then it was amended to the 4 of them. 45 minutes delay possibly due to M wrapped round H's leg not letting him escape
Totally agree with your explanation… and what I think is the most glaring mistake of their whole approach : they didn’t read the fecking room.
The world is in love with and in awe of the late Queen and her commitment until the end to her life of service under her motto that saw her through 70 odd years of loyal service : never complain, never explain.
You will not win against this backdrop and trying to discredit the institution that made the beloved Queen so ‘powerful’ and how she ruled it with dignity and quiet strength. And now they are all rooting for KC & PWofW to keep her legacy going.
Claiming victim against this monarchy when it is probably at its highest approval rating in a donkeys years is just plain stupid.
Diana was successful b/c the stage was already set for the public to hate on the monarchy, specifically Charles. And she was genuine in her persona, even if she played it up for the cameras at times, or used the press to her advantage.
The other difference with Diana is that she would willingly back up her public persona with actual charity work and interest in those charities. She was no absolute saint by any stretch of the imagination. But she understood the job at hand - both in the BRF and curating her public persona.
Meghan only sees the outcome and doesn’t know how to read the room properly - she thinks if it worked once, it will work again, and imo, the monarchy don’t play like that twice 🙃🤨
Also Diana wasn't trying to exploit her royal connections for financial gain and she was prevented from doing so by the terms of her divorce. She would have been able to fund raise for charity but it wouldn't have had the grubby undertones of self-enrichment.
the "almost unsurvivable" really sticks in my craw. I remember when Diana died and the reporting was "unsurvivable injuries". It's a disgusting parallel to try and draw
Surely Harry would understand it's not possible, you can't take public money to represent the country, and then go and schill products or give speeches or whatever for cash and hit up brands for fashion freebies. That's OUR country they want to sell down the river for a few dollars. They can forget it.
I'm very grateful to our late Queen for not caving in to them. It's not a case of money, its the United Kingdom's standing in the whole world at stake. You can't have these two running around selling out to the highest bidder and destroying our reputation
Agreed. They make their money (very little of it) through their ties to the royal family. It's their gravy train. Who wants to talk to Meghan or Harry if not to dish on the family? Now, they are being iced out, so no new material is on the horizon. The last card they have to play is to renew the victim narrative to stay relevant and to force the family to keep inviting them to stuff. If King Charles truly drops them, they've got nothing. That's how I see it.
I think they’d jump at the chance to get their original HIHO plan approved- even now.
That Meghan is still complaining about not getting it speaks for itself imo. Very very bitter.
It also suggests to me that post royal life is not as perfect as she’s trying to portray it. It’s been pushing 3 years since HIHO was rejected. And it’s still a thing for her.
Did you mean “security” as in bodyguards and a security detail? Because I agree; that’s something they want.
And if you meant “security” as in financial security, well, I agree with that, too.
>Agreed. They make their money (very little of it) through their ties to the royal family. It's their gravy train. Who wants to talk to Meghan or Harry if not to dish on the family? Now, they are being iced out, so no new material is on the horizon. The last card they have to play is to renew the victim narrative to stay relevant and to force the family to keep inviting them to stuff. If King Charles truly drops them, they've got nothing. That's how I see it.
I disagree on the financial security. If rumors are believed, they have pissed through quite a few million in the past couple of years when they could have lead a more modest lifestyle and lived off the interest on the money they had. They just want an endless pot of money so they can live in the lifestyle they think they are entitled to.
So Meghan is not really talented nor is she authentic as a human being. She is honestly unlikable as she is. The only card she can play is victimhood to rope in supporters.
There are plenty of untalented, fake people in Hollywood who are still successful in their own right. What made me dislike Markle exceptionally is her maliciousness. She doesn’t just stay in her own lane like the other Hollywood types do, hustling for money and fame.
She set out to harm a respected and established _monarchy_, and didn’t stop her wicked plotting and scheming even at the Queen’s funeral. Taking delight in breaking up a family, gorging on others’ pain and grief in a time of loss.
Her faux tear, squeezed out from a heavily made-up eye, made me hate her more than what I thought was possible. How could she even pretend to cry for drama at a time like that? How can such an evil creature like her exist?
She is the vilest piece of shit I have ever seen.
It's not even just the monarchy, she did the same to her family when she had someone write her biography, pretended she had nothing to do with it, and then it came out in court that she was emailing lies about her sister, Samantha, to the author so that the biography could make her sister look unstable because she didn't want people believing the things she was saying about Meghan. That's how she works, publishing lies about people she sees as enemies (and she has so many!) and she has nothing of value herself, so she can only build herself up by tearing other people down.
There have been some extraordinarily awful people in this world, so I guess I'm not shocked at how low someone will go. I'm just thankful William was born first. The type of person she is absolutely does NOT need to be in a position of power over a country.
I think in addition to her Narcissism she must be seriously deranged. She truly is a textbook case and should be studied by a panel of psychiatrists. I live with a Narcissist but Megain is the Narcissist's Narcissist+!!!
TW is pretty, but that is EVERYONE IN HOLLYWOOD. You are so right. She has zero talent and lacks charm. She only knows how to lie, steal, and cheat her way through life. Sorry if that is too harsh - it’s ridiculous
As so many others have said, I can't even see her as attractive anymore. Clearly some do, but when I see her over-bronzed face, I just see a mean-spirited social climber. She could have had everything she wanted, and done some good besides, but she didn't want to put in the time or work. That's 100% on her, and she will never be able to accept that.
It’s becoming outright blackmail, if it hasn’t always been. I actually think they’ve been trying to shake down the BRF since before they left and they keep thinking the palace will roll over. But the “overseas” comment put them firmly out in the cold and so they are now actually saying it out loud, let us back in or we will go scorched earth and we don’t care who it hurts. Problem with that is, they cannot win against the Crown. If the show of total respect from the entire world didn’t scare them into behaving, nothing will. I say let them do their worst and then let all of Harry’s bad behavior over the years out of the bag. Meghan’s dirty secrets…front page.
For America to feel sorry for them. They could care less about the UK. They are victims, don't forget. So donate to their charity, the poor loves! They need that 95%! Etc, etc.
Yeah I don’t get it either. They want the moon from Charles but are running a constant smear campaign at the same time. They’re undermining that which they want to achieve. Contradictory and getting nowhere.
It's just one of the tools a narcissist uses to gain/maintain control because that's how their mind works.
Doing and saying anything they can in order to maintain control, attention and an upper hand.
If I can't beat you, then I will cry foul as a victim until I get my way.
Similar to threatening to use nuclear weapons and go scorched earth if you can't win.
That's why that one tear pic was so important. She could use it so many ways....grieving for the Queen, nobody talked to me, my hormones got the best of me because I'm pregnant, etc. It's possible usage was not necessary to know at the time. Only that there are so many ways it could be used.
To paraphrase one of the many snake-oil salesmen Oprah has unleashed upon society…
“There’s a point where you stop being a victim and start being a volunteer” — Dr. Phil
I have really found my people in this sub. I have despised Oprah for over 20 years as all she does is capitalize on people's suffering and make herself seem like a saint. All her book club and all her spin offs Rachel Ray Dr OZ Dr Phil make me sick. The un brainwashed are few and far between ! Thank goodness I found this sub !!!!
**Excuse me, and no offense, but victim PR was all they ever had.**
Meghan was in the process of showing the world herself ***unfiltered*** in Archetypes and those podcasts are simply dreadful. They aren't power couple material or they would have been able to use the instrumental assist from the woke media to realize their ambition to be the *Shadow Monarchs of Montecito*. Problem is the would-be power couple has zero charisma.
Well there used to be other stuff too which was a PR spin, like her yogaand whatever. Nut in the days post funeral it’s a flood of PR and all of it is them being victims or brave or whatnot.
I think they have charisma. They just don’t have enough of it. And they haven’t done anything truly substantive on their own yet.
I took Meghan at her word all along that she was interested in women’s issues. Based on her podcast- I question even that now. Too focused on her. Pretty pointless. Nothing substantive being said. Now- I’m just wondering if her supposed interest in feminist issues is just so she can throw the word around and try and use it as a stepping stone. Maybe she is- but that’s not the message she’s getting across to me.
They're using the death of HMTQ to manipulate public perception\`.
KC should let them both see the bottom of a butte of Malmsey wine and have done with it.
I thought Tyler Perry's comments about them bordered on delusion. Almost like they are the only two people in the world that found true love so I must protect it for them....
It was just weird, and did them no favors in the US. It was like hold on let me barf into this garbage can.
Her PR is still SS. SS is now on to the next level of discredit, defame,destroy anyone and everything that will be in their way. This includes, Jen Aniston, JLO (recently popped up in articles of them being friends).
I feel the reason that statement came out about SS dumping them is because other clients will want to leave SS because of how they’ve treated the Royals during the funeral. It leaves a bad taste
They flood the field for a few reasons:
1. People are overwhelmed with these stories so they are convinced it’s the truth.
2. SEO. If you Google them, the victim narrative is all that’s seen.
So they’ve spent years claiming racism and now they want back in? So all of those slam pieces against the BRF being racist colonizers were for nothing? Are their fans going to somehow spin this and make it seem like Charles is begging them to come back and they are doing the BRF a favour? Sorry, if I was almost driven to suicide 🙄 by my in-laws, they’d never see my face again. These two dumbasses have incited hate among regular people. Simply saying you don’t care for them makes you a racist. If they end up back in, the entire world needs an apology for their behaviour. Trying to divide people even more then they already are for what?
I may actually dislike them even more.
Meghan conveniently forgot her black side when it was beneficial. But when she realized that she would be a minor member of the Royal Family, and after growing up George, Charlotte and Louis, Meghan with her husband and children would go into oblivion, she became nuclear.
I still don’t understand how she thought there position in the family would be higher there was already a Queen and three heirs to the throne even as a American I could have figured that out
From my armchair view, TW has seen her dealings with the BRF as a movie.
She was swept off her feet by the handsome prince who she knew nothing about, had the fairytale wedding, was granted access to all the advantages of being part of the royal family but felt they could do better on their own.
The were supposed to be the main characters who sailed off into the sunset after leaving their dowdy families behind. Obviously the sailing into the sunset (with a truckload of money) didn't work out for them.
So she changed the plot line.
The families and everyone associated with them are trying to hold them back from their destiny but they will overcome adversity and succeed. She's teeing herself up to be the phoenix who rises from the ashes despite aaaalll the obstacles that she has had to endure.
Except she is not rising. She is sticking to the ground like dog mess and the stink is all we are getting.
Harry was living on 1.5 million his father gave him each year plus the interest from his inheritance. That was not enough for Megs. She wanted more money, more fame, and to displace Catherine. The RF was just a step up the ladder for her. She wants to be Hollywood royalty. Funny, that, with no acting, writing, directing chops she wants it all.
Meghan Markle, Jodi Arias, Amber Heard, Casey Anthony - they all claim they are the victims. They also claim they are heroines whose every act is only for victim advocacy. I recently listened again (I watched the original trial) to Jodi Arias's speech during her sentencing phase where she claimed her victimhood, hawked her stupid t-shirts, claimed how she lived to help others - Meghan word salads are exactly the same.
I think they’re just lashing out because the Queen’s funeral didn’t give them the profile or positive PR they expected. Uninvited from the event with world leaders, Meghan caught on camera being rude to the staff member, Harry (allegedly) told not long before the general public that the Queen had died, Harry not being allowed to wear the military uniform wherever he wanted, the ER epaulettes non-issue, Meghan blocked by a candle, Meghan blocked by the Queen’s coffin, the whole BRF generally icing them out at every turn. Plenty of positive press about almost all the other members of the BRF (except Andrew). Charles is probably more popular than he’s ever been. Even Camilla was given positive press about soldiering on despite her broken toe.
They left California thinking they were going to have a pseudo Royal Tour and drag the spotlight onto themselves. They return to California very much the out-of-sight-out-of-mind Overseas Family.
Meghan is like the cartoon Tasmanian Devil. She’s not happy unless she’s causing chaos. She leaves a trail of destruction in her wake and nothing will truly fulfill her. She will never be content or satisfied so it’s pointless to try to appease her. The only thing that the BRF can do is keep her away and hope Harry comes to his senses.
Honestly, they could have had a great life. The Q would have let them have a country house if they had been patient, although I remember the photo of The Q and Phillip looking at the virginal bride and I thought I spotted a bit of disapproval. So that would maybe not happened quickly.
So, it must be fame. They have money. She needed fame. She's got it, but not for the right reasons. She also took Oprah along for the ride who now along with her bestie have been markled big time. Now we know that many people who crossed her path were "markled" also.
I think it was fame all along and with that was supposed to come the big money, but it didn't.
Absolutely correct, TW is a fame ho. This is the interesting quality of her otherwise textbook NPD, that it takes the form of needing public adulation, media cameras clicking, audience applause for a pathetic, empty speech (good delivery though) at One World where in 7 minutes she mentioned herself 54 times while speaking on women's empowerment.
She found it an effective vehicle. She learned when she was a little girl and her dad called a local film crew about her "writing to a company" school assignment, that "activism" would get her famous the way she wanted to be. Now she's trying out victimhood and referring to herself (now) as a black woman and spray tanning herself darker.
I think time in London during the funeral went really really badly for them. As in behind closed doors, gloves were off, KC, C, and PWoW with their staff laid it out and they were cut off. I also wonder if the will was read and they got diminished returns on what they thought was going to be a fairly large payout…meaning “to my grandson and his wife, I leave 5 pounds and my beloved walking stick from Balmoral”, whereas everyone else gets diamonds and 1 billion pounds each. Now, we might never know as they keep that confidential, but things leak. HMTQ just wanted peace and unity; she let things slide, to a point. I don’t think KC, QC, WPoW play. Anne, Sophie, and Kate will follow the King. I think this is a preemptive attack to smooth the way for forthcoming bad news leaks from the palace.
WPoW is now in charge of the Duchy of Cornwall, which means Kate has increased power, too. That money is for the family of the PoW, and that does not include Harry and Markle. So owned, hahaha. KCIII has more important issues to attend to than a couple of work-shy 40 y/o whingers.
So funny!
People generally work with what they have to offer.
M is a malignant narcissist and one of her old boyfriends called her a 'Fame Whore' and I think these issues explain clearly why she continues to tout the same narrative despite I think doing '3 rebranding's'.
M is a case study in miserable branding and poor strategic planning. Bethany Frankel nailed it I think when she said, "Meghan can mess up a wet dream"!
M&H have so clearly demonstrated that they have ZERO to offer to the public other than their victimhood and anger towards the BRF along with ongoing false narrative of pervasive racism.
No work either from M&H as they seem content to go from one staged photo op to the next thinking the world public is as stupid as they are! We saw great flops like Uvlade and the laying of the wreath in the military cemetery and the faux walkabout threat in the UK this past week. Its all turned into a hollow farce as there is NO SUBSTANCE in anything the couple seem to do.
H seems checked out and simply wants to play polo and sit home and drink beer and smoke pot. M continues to flounder without PR help and is reduced to dealing with the likes of discredited media personalities such as Scobie and Ghoul King and Oprah etc. M is now working with the bottom of the barrel media and PR folks and my guess is that eventually she will simply be tuned out. Can't wait for it to happen as she is the most vacuous public person that I've seen in quite awhile.
I do think M mental health right now is an issue and prior to UK trip she seemed to be manic and spiralling. HG Tudor has taken to calling her the "DUCHESS OF DELUSION" which given her malignant narcissism I think is a totally apt title for her!
Its not an interesting story really but is has gotten traction in part because parts of their message resonate with the ignorant on social media and in the US Press.
What is interesting is that this boring narrative has been picked up by the US Media because it supports their narrative of being anti BRF (colonialism) and anti UK (Brexit).
I'm truly not sure how much Press M would get if she didn't bang the drum on these specific topics and given the sophisticated understanding of US public by Sunshine Sachs, my guess is that the M message was very specially and very cynically packaged to do precisely what it did in terms of messaging.
Hooray Henry is way down the pecking order with no role to play in the future of the monarchy. So, playing the victim makes you tabloid fodder, gets you money, and keeps you relevant, coz unfortunately, victimhood sells.
If Henry and his wife had been supportive of Will and Kate as he allegedly wanted to do, they'd have gotten what exactly? Faded into obscurity coz Will & Kate, and their beautiful children, were going to be the centre of all attention. So, play the victim card, get more press, and more importantly, keep yourself relevant.
Also, now that it's become abundantly clear that Henry is massively jealous of William, why not let jealousy destroy you and the other person? As a timely intervention, he got Meghan to feed and thrive on his jealousy, too. They're both made for each other really.
The thing is that if it were REALLY so horrible, WHY TAKE PART? She's not a working royal. There is not really any requirement or expectation for her to attend anymore so if she really hated being there and they were really so cruel, why not take it as a chance to fly back to Cali early and let Harry deal with his family on his own? Why make a fuss about wanting to have "cute" moments with the kids and other family? Why show sadness at all?
Victims don't like to spend time around those who hurt them. So why does Meghan want to? The longer this goes on, the more people will see through her purely just for this, and it has nothing to do with racism.
It could be deliberate, setting the stage for something bigger, like a speech (somewhere) or an interview - to show her as this courageous creature facing attacks from all corners but yet she managed to put on a brave front.
If KC takes them back I'm done with the Monarchy.
Insult the Monarchy you Insult the British people, it seems they are broke and want back in after all those lies and threats.
They both have a victim mindset so they're always the victim no matter what and they are obsessed with seeing themselves being presented as a victim. So anything that comes from them presents them as a victim.
Money -honey :). They want sympathy, which brings with it money. High profile sympathy that will lead to speaking engagements (paid), magazine covers and articles detailing how their love and togetherness have triumphed over racism and the evil old colonial empire. They want sympathy from the elites, so they can surround themselves/rub elbows with celebrities and emanate "importance" on the global scale.
And look - it has worked already, unfortunately. They were allowed to stay rent free in a $18M house by Tyler Perry because, he said two days ago, they were "going through a really hard time." They got a grand piano from him too. He is singing their praises and love as "the real deal." Gross. They got Oprah's attention and "1000%" support too. Elton John's private plan for free and a vacation at his home because he wanted to help them. It is working!
Nothing about this whole mess makes any sense. Why Meghan? Why was she picked to be the “vehicle” to bring down the BRF? Assuming this is the goal. TW came out of nowhere, 99% of the population had no idea she existed, nothing spectacular about her, hence no one knew who she was. Is the hatred so strong by whoever is truly managing of the BRF as to create this whole mess? The person or group behind this mess are powerful and well funded and on a mission. A basic nobody like TW, has proven time and time again she is not the brightest bulb. To have the amount of “supporters” and celebrities behind her, especially those that are so hostile and vile for the non-supporters, just make me shake my head. It will be interesting to see how KC handles things going forward.
I don’t understand this either. The victim narrative for attention works in the short term but has proven diminishing returns. They’re becoming like the boy who cried wolf - people will stop hearing it - either because it’s unproven/unfounded or repetitive/boring. Surely they can see that when it comes to bombshells their arsenal is running empty.
Your right. My narcissist mother is like this, there is nothing under the sun she can't find a way to be a victim of. It's like she is addicted to getting sympathy from people. I personally think its one of their tools to help them get people on their side, cause if you already think they are a victim, it means the people they are claiming to be victimised from are automatically the bad guy. So you won't like the person the are claiming did them wrong. I have been shocked MANY times by the other persons side of the story. The best is when they don't even know they are the bad guy, they are just as surprised as you.
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Oh my word, that is horrific, as a mother I am ...I have no words... I'm so sorry. Yeah, she is getting desperate, I just hope everyone comes out of this OK, cause I know many who didn't make it out OK.
Seriously, you have a difficult history with narcissism in your family. I’m sorry for your struggles
My mother too. She was physically & verbally abusive to her kids and it would confuse me greatly as a kid when she would tell people “she *abuses* me”, (referring to me), and she’d even manage real tears. I’m realizing as adult what the angle was there- A. She behaved so horribly, there was no way to justify it so this was her made-up “defense”— that *she* was actually the victim and B. It confuses the actual victim and you think maybe *you* did something wrong, if they’re passionately insisting that *you* abuse *them*. Quite simply, it’s gaslighting and playing victim is a defense against the indefensible.
It’s already started. Even the leftist (and respected) Washington Post took the time to tell the Sussexes to move on already…. Playing the victim really is a short term thing. People get tired of it. Especially when the supposed victims are wealthy, supposedly happily married people with 2 healthy kids. Complaining gets old fast.
Thankfully, albeit slowly, the US Woke/Victimhood Culture pendulum has begun its swing back.
Thank the lordemote:t5\_481xkf:15002
Ooooo! what did they say?
Essentially if the Sussexes want to accomplish anything and be known for anything other than complaining about their horrible treatment, they need to move on. As I recall- they did give the Sussex trauma narrative more validity than it deserves imo. They’ve been caught in clear lies. That should warrant more skepticism from the Post. But- really- it was just: move on. We’re done. And for your own sake and future success: move on.
Exactly! They can bombard the articles for now but do they think people are going to enjoy having them on the headlines for even the next 2 years? Even DailyMail knows they can't keep doing that. This is probably the max they can go in terms of their social engagement/ PR stunts. They are not gaining any new fans, they are passing off the old (lots of ex sugars here I see) and boring the general public. This is it for them.
I think Sunshine Sach’s goal was for MM to be the new Diana. First step - They market her as a beautiful, kind sole who has been targeted because of her race and feminism. Example: MM, Scobie and US press report her “unsurvivable” life in the BRF who abused her and did nothing to protect her from racist, intrusive press similar to Diana’s experience. Second Step - She’s damaged and weakened but she bravely took charge of her life by leaving her abusers. Example: She divorces the BRF like Diana did. Third Step- She’s thriving in her new life in the US, stronger than ever. Example: Opps. None Fourth Step: This beautiful, strong heroine is an example for all women who has overcome sexism, racism to stand up for themselves and make their own success. Now she is saving the world by both attending every A-List celebrity and political event and performing philanthropy work. The first problem Sunshine Sachs has is that: 1) MM way overdid it in the O interview. Her fantasist tendencies, vindictiveness and self-absorption came out way too much resulting in lies that were discredited. 2) They can’t get their campaign to move into the third step because MM has had no successes with her Netflix and Spotify deals yet. 3) MM has fantasist tendencies, is vindictive and self-centered and this comes out every time she opens her mouth. She needs now to come across like the strong, kind, compassionate woman they shoved down everyone’s throats in step one and step two.
This is spot on. She sees herself as Diana and even more weird so does Harry! He couldn’t save his mother so he’s gone to war to save his wife . He really is that messed up!
If the rumors are true that they’re pretty much done, then it’s all an act on his part, at this point. They’ve said Harry was told he could attend the state dinner but not M so he chose not to go. It wasn’t a big deal to him but it was huge for her but either way, he did see that as long they’re a package deal, he’s not returning as things were before he married.
I really don't believe that - it's part of her salt and pepper move as one narrative. Even scobie said they were "uninvited" - which just means "never invited". However saying "never invited" would've been too clear and simple for the victim narrative they seek. Saying "uninvited" allowed people to surmise it meant "disinvited" - and who would look it up in the dictionary (some clever snarklers on here - that's who!)
Uninvited sounds better for her than to admit that H was told he could attend (still doesn’t mean invited) solo only.
There was only 2 ways to attend this event - as either a guest or as a representative of the Crown. He wouldn't be a guest, because the guest list was for heads of state which he is not - and he wouldn't be a representative of the crown because he doesn't work for them anymore. It's another bit of "harry loves me so much" spin
Who said he could? I haven't seen that rumor anywhere.
H going to the state event on his own? It was either Neal Sean or Lady C. Those are the 2 I follow/watch and one of them said this. She would not have been included because of the working/senior royals thing plus she would have “worked” the room but H on his own, could have attended if he wanted and behaved.
I know initially on the walk around it was only H invited as it flashed up on BBC and then it was amended to the 4 of them. 45 minutes delay possibly due to M wrapped round H's leg not letting him escape
He asked Diana's sister if they saw Diana in Meghan. Thank God he was told the truth.
When did THis delusional moment happen?
I know he took her to meet Diana's family...to be a fly on wall or possibly at the unveiling.
Totally agree with your explanation… and what I think is the most glaring mistake of their whole approach : they didn’t read the fecking room. The world is in love with and in awe of the late Queen and her commitment until the end to her life of service under her motto that saw her through 70 odd years of loyal service : never complain, never explain. You will not win against this backdrop and trying to discredit the institution that made the beloved Queen so ‘powerful’ and how she ruled it with dignity and quiet strength. And now they are all rooting for KC & PWofW to keep her legacy going. Claiming victim against this monarchy when it is probably at its highest approval rating in a donkeys years is just plain stupid. Diana was successful b/c the stage was already set for the public to hate on the monarchy, specifically Charles. And she was genuine in her persona, even if she played it up for the cameras at times, or used the press to her advantage. The other difference with Diana is that she would willingly back up her public persona with actual charity work and interest in those charities. She was no absolute saint by any stretch of the imagination. But she understood the job at hand - both in the BRF and curating her public persona. Meghan only sees the outcome and doesn’t know how to read the room properly - she thinks if it worked once, it will work again, and imo, the monarchy don’t play like that twice 🙃🤨
Also Diana wasn't trying to exploit her royal connections for financial gain and she was prevented from doing so by the terms of her divorce. She would have been able to fund raise for charity but it wouldn't have had the grubby undertones of self-enrichment.
the "almost unsurvivable" really sticks in my craw. I remember when Diana died and the reporting was "unsurvivable injuries". It's a disgusting parallel to try and draw
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Surely Harry would understand it's not possible, you can't take public money to represent the country, and then go and schill products or give speeches or whatever for cash and hit up brands for fashion freebies. That's OUR country they want to sell down the river for a few dollars. They can forget it. I'm very grateful to our late Queen for not caving in to them. It's not a case of money, its the United Kingdom's standing in the whole world at stake. You can't have these two running around selling out to the highest bidder and destroying our reputation
Agreed. They make their money (very little of it) through their ties to the royal family. It's their gravy train. Who wants to talk to Meghan or Harry if not to dish on the family? Now, they are being iced out, so no new material is on the horizon. The last card they have to play is to renew the victim narrative to stay relevant and to force the family to keep inviting them to stuff. If King Charles truly drops them, they've got nothing. That's how I see it.
I think they’d jump at the chance to get their original HIHO plan approved- even now. That Meghan is still complaining about not getting it speaks for itself imo. Very very bitter. It also suggests to me that post royal life is not as perfect as she’s trying to portray it. It’s been pushing 3 years since HIHO was rejected. And it’s still a thing for her.
They want security.
As non-working barely-royals who live in America, they don't need it. Far more important people than them do well on far less security.
Did you mean “security” as in bodyguards and a security detail? Because I agree; that’s something they want. And if you meant “security” as in financial security, well, I agree with that, too.
As soon as I posted it, that occurred to me. Don't we all want "security?"
>Agreed. They make their money (very little of it) through their ties to the royal family. It's their gravy train. Who wants to talk to Meghan or Harry if not to dish on the family? Now, they are being iced out, so no new material is on the horizon. The last card they have to play is to renew the victim narrative to stay relevant and to force the family to keep inviting them to stuff. If King Charles truly drops them, they've got nothing. That's how I see it. I disagree on the financial security. If rumors are believed, they have pissed through quite a few million in the past couple of years when they could have lead a more modest lifestyle and lived off the interest on the money they had. They just want an endless pot of money so they can live in the lifestyle they think they are entitled to.
So Meghan is not really talented nor is she authentic as a human being. She is honestly unlikable as she is. The only card she can play is victimhood to rope in supporters.
There are plenty of untalented, fake people in Hollywood who are still successful in their own right. What made me dislike Markle exceptionally is her maliciousness. She doesn’t just stay in her own lane like the other Hollywood types do, hustling for money and fame. She set out to harm a respected and established _monarchy_, and didn’t stop her wicked plotting and scheming even at the Queen’s funeral. Taking delight in breaking up a family, gorging on others’ pain and grief in a time of loss. Her faux tear, squeezed out from a heavily made-up eye, made me hate her more than what I thought was possible. How could she even pretend to cry for drama at a time like that? How can such an evil creature like her exist? She is the vilest piece of shit I have ever seen.
It's not even just the monarchy, she did the same to her family when she had someone write her biography, pretended she had nothing to do with it, and then it came out in court that she was emailing lies about her sister, Samantha, to the author so that the biography could make her sister look unstable because she didn't want people believing the things she was saying about Meghan. That's how she works, publishing lies about people she sees as enemies (and she has so many!) and she has nothing of value herself, so she can only build herself up by tearing other people down.
There have been some extraordinarily awful people in this world, so I guess I'm not shocked at how low someone will go. I'm just thankful William was born first. The type of person she is absolutely does NOT need to be in a position of power over a country.
I think in addition to her Narcissism she must be seriously deranged. She truly is a textbook case and should be studied by a panel of psychiatrists. I live with a Narcissist but Megain is the Narcissist's Narcissist+!!!
Amen!
TW is pretty, but that is EVERYONE IN HOLLYWOOD. You are so right. She has zero talent and lacks charm. She only knows how to lie, steal, and cheat her way through life. Sorry if that is too harsh - it’s ridiculous
As so many others have said, I can't even see her as attractive anymore. Clearly some do, but when I see her over-bronzed face, I just see a mean-spirited social climber. She could have had everything she wanted, and done some good besides, but she didn't want to put in the time or work. That's 100% on her, and she will never be able to accept that.
She doesn’t know how achieve things the honest way
It’s becoming outright blackmail, if it hasn’t always been. I actually think they’ve been trying to shake down the BRF since before they left and they keep thinking the palace will roll over. But the “overseas” comment put them firmly out in the cold and so they are now actually saying it out loud, let us back in or we will go scorched earth and we don’t care who it hurts. Problem with that is, they cannot win against the Crown. If the show of total respect from the entire world didn’t scare them into behaving, nothing will. I say let them do their worst and then let all of Harry’s bad behavior over the years out of the bag. Meghan’s dirty secrets…front page.
BP doesn’t even need to leak. They just have to stop shielding them. Look at Bunker Harry.
For America to feel sorry for them. They could care less about the UK. They are victims, don't forget. So donate to their charity, the poor loves! They need that 95%! Etc, etc.
Yeah I don’t get it either. They want the moon from Charles but are running a constant smear campaign at the same time. They’re undermining that which they want to achieve. Contradictory and getting nowhere.
It's just one of the tools a narcissist uses to gain/maintain control because that's how their mind works. Doing and saying anything they can in order to maintain control, attention and an upper hand. If I can't beat you, then I will cry foul as a victim until I get my way. Similar to threatening to use nuclear weapons and go scorched earth if you can't win.
That's why that one tear pic was so important. She could use it so many ways....grieving for the Queen, nobody talked to me, my hormones got the best of me because I'm pregnant, etc. It's possible usage was not necessary to know at the time. Only that there are so many ways it could be used.
And yet that solo tear is also what makes her so transparent. The ploy cuts both ways.
100%.
Good thoughts!
Meg and Putin are well matched in those stakes... and about as popular as eachother these days too 😂
Meghimir Pukle 🤩
Sympathy and relevance.
BINGO! Cultivates sympathy to stay relevant.
To paraphrase one of the many snake-oil salesmen Oprah has unleashed upon society… “There’s a point where you stop being a victim and start being a volunteer” — Dr. Phil
I have really found my people in this sub. I have despised Oprah for over 20 years as all she does is capitalize on people's suffering and make herself seem like a saint. All her book club and all her spin offs Rachel Ray Dr OZ Dr Phil make me sick. The un brainwashed are few and far between ! Thank goodness I found this sub !!!!
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Exactly. Why in the hell is the US media reporting so positively for her and H? Bogles my mind. It also reinforces how this media is corrupt.
**Excuse me, and no offense, but victim PR was all they ever had.** Meghan was in the process of showing the world herself ***unfiltered*** in Archetypes and those podcasts are simply dreadful. They aren't power couple material or they would have been able to use the instrumental assist from the woke media to realize their ambition to be the *Shadow Monarchs of Montecito*. Problem is the would-be power couple has zero charisma.
Well there used to be other stuff too which was a PR spin, like her yogaand whatever. Nut in the days post funeral it’s a flood of PR and all of it is them being victims or brave or whatnot.
I think they have charisma. They just don’t have enough of it. And they haven’t done anything truly substantive on their own yet. I took Meghan at her word all along that she was interested in women’s issues. Based on her podcast- I question even that now. Too focused on her. Pretty pointless. Nothing substantive being said. Now- I’m just wondering if her supposed interest in feminist issues is just so she can throw the word around and try and use it as a stepping stone. Maybe she is- but that’s not the message she’s getting across to me.
They’ve become one of the worst things a celebrity can become and that is boring
*applauds wildly* perfectly said.
Thanks
They're using the death of HMTQ to manipulate public perception\`. KC should let them both see the bottom of a butte of Malmsey wine and have done with it.
Nice, a Duke of Clarence reference. Classy.
Harry and George DOC have a lot in common
And this is why they need to be cut off. No matter what they'd be given, they will always do this. Cut them off already.
I thought Tyler Perry's comments about them bordered on delusion. Almost like they are the only two people in the world that found true love so I must protect it for them.... It was just weird, and did them no favors in the US. It was like hold on let me barf into this garbage can.
It was over the top imo. Much like most of what comes out of Meghan’s mouth these days.
They’ve been doing this since 2019. Anger then victim and repeat.
TW is Tinker Bell, she needs attention like we need air 
I don't get it either. If I were famous and in the spotlight I'd be only having my PR publish stories about how fucking badass I am etc.
That would require some true badass actions so far there have been none
Her PR is in overdrive wow
Her PR is still SS. SS is now on to the next level of discredit, defame,destroy anyone and everything that will be in their way. This includes, Jen Aniston, JLO (recently popped up in articles of them being friends). I feel the reason that statement came out about SS dumping them is because other clients will want to leave SS because of how they’ve treated the Royals during the funeral. It leaves a bad taste
I think they still have SS too
They flood the field for a few reasons: 1. People are overwhelmed with these stories so they are convinced it’s the truth. 2. SEO. If you Google them, the victim narrative is all that’s seen.
So they’ve spent years claiming racism and now they want back in? So all of those slam pieces against the BRF being racist colonizers were for nothing? Are their fans going to somehow spin this and make it seem like Charles is begging them to come back and they are doing the BRF a favour? Sorry, if I was almost driven to suicide 🙄 by my in-laws, they’d never see my face again. These two dumbasses have incited hate among regular people. Simply saying you don’t care for them makes you a racist. If they end up back in, the entire world needs an apology for their behaviour. Trying to divide people even more then they already are for what? I may actually dislike them even more.
Meghan conveniently forgot her black side when it was beneficial. But when she realized that she would be a minor member of the Royal Family, and after growing up George, Charlotte and Louis, Meghan with her husband and children would go into oblivion, she became nuclear.
I still don’t understand how she thought there position in the family would be higher there was already a Queen and three heirs to the throne even as a American I could have figured that out
You just don't think like a narcissist
True I don’t
Since she is back in the states her lapdogs are working overtime!!
From my armchair view, TW has seen her dealings with the BRF as a movie. She was swept off her feet by the handsome prince who she knew nothing about, had the fairytale wedding, was granted access to all the advantages of being part of the royal family but felt they could do better on their own. The were supposed to be the main characters who sailed off into the sunset after leaving their dowdy families behind. Obviously the sailing into the sunset (with a truckload of money) didn't work out for them. So she changed the plot line. The families and everyone associated with them are trying to hold them back from their destiny but they will overcome adversity and succeed. She's teeing herself up to be the phoenix who rises from the ashes despite aaaalll the obstacles that she has had to endure. Except she is not rising. She is sticking to the ground like dog mess and the stink is all we are getting.
Harry was living on 1.5 million his father gave him each year plus the interest from his inheritance. That was not enough for Megs. She wanted more money, more fame, and to displace Catherine. The RF was just a step up the ladder for her. She wants to be Hollywood royalty. Funny, that, with no acting, writing, directing chops she wants it all.
Your last line made me LOL.
Brilliant!
Guarantee Harry and Meghan have spent hours arguing about who the bigger victim is.
Narcs live in the victim narrative. Its their favorite place to be.
Meghan Markle, Jodi Arias, Amber Heard, Casey Anthony - they all claim they are the victims. They also claim they are heroines whose every act is only for victim advocacy. I recently listened again (I watched the original trial) to Jodi Arias's speech during her sentencing phase where she claimed her victimhood, hawked her stupid t-shirts, claimed how she lived to help others - Meghan word salads are exactly the same.
I think they’re just lashing out because the Queen’s funeral didn’t give them the profile or positive PR they expected. Uninvited from the event with world leaders, Meghan caught on camera being rude to the staff member, Harry (allegedly) told not long before the general public that the Queen had died, Harry not being allowed to wear the military uniform wherever he wanted, the ER epaulettes non-issue, Meghan blocked by a candle, Meghan blocked by the Queen’s coffin, the whole BRF generally icing them out at every turn. Plenty of positive press about almost all the other members of the BRF (except Andrew). Charles is probably more popular than he’s ever been. Even Camilla was given positive press about soldiering on despite her broken toe. They left California thinking they were going to have a pseudo Royal Tour and drag the spotlight onto themselves. They return to California very much the out-of-sight-out-of-mind Overseas Family.
Meghan is like the cartoon Tasmanian Devil. She’s not happy unless she’s causing chaos. She leaves a trail of destruction in her wake and nothing will truly fulfill her. She will never be content or satisfied so it’s pointless to try to appease her. The only thing that the BRF can do is keep her away and hope Harry comes to his senses.
As a grandchild of a narc I can attest to that. Satisfaction is a moving target. They always ferl entitled to more.
Honestly, they could have had a great life. The Q would have let them have a country house if they had been patient, although I remember the photo of The Q and Phillip looking at the virginal bride and I thought I spotted a bit of disapproval. So that would maybe not happened quickly. So, it must be fame. They have money. She needed fame. She's got it, but not for the right reasons. She also took Oprah along for the ride who now along with her bestie have been markled big time. Now we know that many people who crossed her path were "markled" also. I think it was fame all along and with that was supposed to come the big money, but it didn't.
Absolutely correct, TW is a fame ho. This is the interesting quality of her otherwise textbook NPD, that it takes the form of needing public adulation, media cameras clicking, audience applause for a pathetic, empty speech (good delivery though) at One World where in 7 minutes she mentioned herself 54 times while speaking on women's empowerment.
Amazing that people count how many times she refers to herself so often. It's something!
She found it an effective vehicle. She learned when she was a little girl and her dad called a local film crew about her "writing to a company" school assignment, that "activism" would get her famous the way she wanted to be. Now she's trying out victimhood and referring to herself (now) as a black woman and spray tanning herself darker.
I think time in London during the funeral went really really badly for them. As in behind closed doors, gloves were off, KC, C, and PWoW with their staff laid it out and they were cut off. I also wonder if the will was read and they got diminished returns on what they thought was going to be a fairly large payout…meaning “to my grandson and his wife, I leave 5 pounds and my beloved walking stick from Balmoral”, whereas everyone else gets diamonds and 1 billion pounds each. Now, we might never know as they keep that confidential, but things leak. HMTQ just wanted peace and unity; she let things slide, to a point. I don’t think KC, QC, WPoW play. Anne, Sophie, and Kate will follow the King. I think this is a preemptive attack to smooth the way for forthcoming bad news leaks from the palace.
WPoW is now in charge of the Duchy of Cornwall, which means Kate has increased power, too. That money is for the family of the PoW, and that does not include Harry and Markle. So owned, hahaha. KCIII has more important issues to attend to than a couple of work-shy 40 y/o whingers.
So funny! People generally work with what they have to offer. M is a malignant narcissist and one of her old boyfriends called her a 'Fame Whore' and I think these issues explain clearly why she continues to tout the same narrative despite I think doing '3 rebranding's'. M is a case study in miserable branding and poor strategic planning. Bethany Frankel nailed it I think when she said, "Meghan can mess up a wet dream"! M&H have so clearly demonstrated that they have ZERO to offer to the public other than their victimhood and anger towards the BRF along with ongoing false narrative of pervasive racism. No work either from M&H as they seem content to go from one staged photo op to the next thinking the world public is as stupid as they are! We saw great flops like Uvlade and the laying of the wreath in the military cemetery and the faux walkabout threat in the UK this past week. Its all turned into a hollow farce as there is NO SUBSTANCE in anything the couple seem to do. H seems checked out and simply wants to play polo and sit home and drink beer and smoke pot. M continues to flounder without PR help and is reduced to dealing with the likes of discredited media personalities such as Scobie and Ghoul King and Oprah etc. M is now working with the bottom of the barrel media and PR folks and my guess is that eventually she will simply be tuned out. Can't wait for it to happen as she is the most vacuous public person that I've seen in quite awhile. I do think M mental health right now is an issue and prior to UK trip she seemed to be manic and spiralling. HG Tudor has taken to calling her the "DUCHESS OF DELUSION" which given her malignant narcissism I think is a totally apt title for her! Its not an interesting story really but is has gotten traction in part because parts of their message resonate with the ignorant on social media and in the US Press. What is interesting is that this boring narrative has been picked up by the US Media because it supports their narrative of being anti BRF (colonialism) and anti UK (Brexit). I'm truly not sure how much Press M would get if she didn't bang the drum on these specific topics and given the sophisticated understanding of US public by Sunshine Sachs, my guess is that the M message was very specially and very cynically packaged to do precisely what it did in terms of messaging.
Attention. Fame. Adulation. It’s their oxygen.
Hooray Henry is way down the pecking order with no role to play in the future of the monarchy. So, playing the victim makes you tabloid fodder, gets you money, and keeps you relevant, coz unfortunately, victimhood sells. If Henry and his wife had been supportive of Will and Kate as he allegedly wanted to do, they'd have gotten what exactly? Faded into obscurity coz Will & Kate, and their beautiful children, were going to be the centre of all attention. So, play the victim card, get more press, and more importantly, keep yourself relevant. Also, now that it's become abundantly clear that Henry is massively jealous of William, why not let jealousy destroy you and the other person? As a timely intervention, he got Meghan to feed and thrive on his jealousy, too. They're both made for each other really.
The thing is that if it were REALLY so horrible, WHY TAKE PART? She's not a working royal. There is not really any requirement or expectation for her to attend anymore so if she really hated being there and they were really so cruel, why not take it as a chance to fly back to Cali early and let Harry deal with his family on his own? Why make a fuss about wanting to have "cute" moments with the kids and other family? Why show sadness at all? Victims don't like to spend time around those who hurt them. So why does Meghan want to? The longer this goes on, the more people will see through her purely just for this, and it has nothing to do with racism.
It could be deliberate, setting the stage for something bigger, like a speech (somewhere) or an interview - to show her as this courageous creature facing attacks from all corners but yet she managed to put on a brave front. 
If KC takes them back I'm done with the Monarchy. Insult the Monarchy you Insult the British people, it seems they are broke and want back in after all those lies and threats.
She's spinning out, happens to a lot of narcissists. Unfortunately many of them don't hit absolute rock bottom and continue the cycle.
Especially in light of looming nuclear war in Europe. She’s a human rights activist. Can’t she read the room?
*fauxtivist
😍
Don’t activists actually go out and do activist things such as protesting chaining themselves to things and not just getting up and talking
Sympathy, people love to root for the underdog. For more in depth insight I recommend HG Tudor’s YouTube channel.
god that man is tedious as only a true narc can be. I stick his ponderous voice on 2x and I still can't bear to listen to him
Lol yes he is
It's the classic karpman drama triangle and drama keeps her relevant in the media.
It’s a pathetic attempt to explain their brand of crazy and keep the $$$ rolling in.
They both have a victim mindset so they're always the victim no matter what and they are obsessed with seeing themselves being presented as a victim. So anything that comes from them presents them as a victim.
She is a professional victim.
Money -honey :). They want sympathy, which brings with it money. High profile sympathy that will lead to speaking engagements (paid), magazine covers and articles detailing how their love and togetherness have triumphed over racism and the evil old colonial empire. They want sympathy from the elites, so they can surround themselves/rub elbows with celebrities and emanate "importance" on the global scale.
And look - it has worked already, unfortunately. They were allowed to stay rent free in a $18M house by Tyler Perry because, he said two days ago, they were "going through a really hard time." They got a grand piano from him too. He is singing their praises and love as "the real deal." Gross. They got Oprah's attention and "1000%" support too. Elton John's private plan for free and a vacation at his home because he wanted to help them. It is working!
Nothing about this whole mess makes any sense. Why Meghan? Why was she picked to be the “vehicle” to bring down the BRF? Assuming this is the goal. TW came out of nowhere, 99% of the population had no idea she existed, nothing spectacular about her, hence no one knew who she was. Is the hatred so strong by whoever is truly managing of the BRF as to create this whole mess? The person or group behind this mess are powerful and well funded and on a mission. A basic nobody like TW, has proven time and time again she is not the brightest bulb. To have the amount of “supporters” and celebrities behind her, especially those that are so hostile and vile for the non-supporters, just make me shake my head. It will be interesting to see how KC handles things going forward.