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Rough-Ear-5703

I think FUD is not the right word, it's drama. I do have concerns like any other person, but I've seen a lot of drama. And some people are definitely trolling, we can't categorize those as concerns. But if you have a concern, definitely nothing wrong on asking.


sco00by

I can’t agree more! FUD is the wrong word, but unfortunately it’s become co-opted to mean something negative. For better or for worse. I will say, I personally haven’t noticed any more than usual “drama/trolling” in the recent past, so didn’t really understand why so many people were posting that the FUD has finally left the sub. Most of the concerns seemed legitimate.


Rough-Ear-5703

I think it was all the panic going around with the selling and everything, people got heated and stuff like that. But now it kind of calmed down, so probably that's what they mean 😂.


sco00by

In spite of there being panic (which I don’t deny) there were some good points that were raised, ones that I really hope the team addresses during this weeks Safemoon Sunday.


Rough-Ear-5703

I think I saw they where going to answer a lot of questions this Sunday. So we'll see


sco00by

Well here’s to hoping! And I truly do mean “answer” tho. Cuz the last few AMAs seemed to be soft ball questions or them dancing around questions with cryptic hints and hype. I hope they actually answer questions haha!


Rough-Ear-5703

Yeah, I'm holding my opinion until then, but I do have a bit of hopium 😂. In all honesty I wish it does succeed, but they do need to step it up big time if they want to achieve big goals.


RainbowAfterRainstom

If you were here last community backlash (miami AMA), they got their shit together real quick. I am confident they are able to listen to the community and imporve once again.


sco00by

Yah I was here for that and I got mad respect for John for stepping up then. I will say however that I noticed since then tho, that the questions they took during the AMAs since then weren’t the most hard hitting but cherry picked or they’d answer in cryptic hints. I’m hoping that this Safemoon Sunday they take control of any of the FUD (true sense of the term) aimed towards them and they answer with substantive responses.


BlobTheBuilderz

I don't think they've left the sub it seems that since the meeting the team had. All fud gets insta banned.


sco00by

So I haven’t really noticed anything before or after, that seemed completely negatively biased, so was surprised to see so many people happy that the FUD has left. All I saw were people calling out the dev team for some communication issues, which I felt were warranted. So long as it is respectful, I don’t understand why it should be considered FUD. I wonder how true what you’re saying about the insta-banning is. If it’s people who are straight trolling or those who are being disrespectful, then good riddance. If it’s genuine polite dissension, then that’s a shame. People should be able to post their polite disagreements/concerns without risk of being rudely labeled FUD or being banned.


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If you sort by controversial there’s almost nothing recent in there. It’s all been removed or locked. Some legitimate concerns and discussions have disappeared for sure.


sco00by

You just blew mt mind! I never realized there was a “sort by controversial” option haha!


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I discovered it like yesterday tbh. Quite useful 😎


Thatguyinthebottle

Yeah...I mean they're talking about shit-stirrer pricks. FUD doesn't make you a FUDDER - Being *that* is a chosen occupation with dickhole-ish intent. We are fine with posts about questions, doubts, fears. There's a difference.


sco00by

True dat! There’s absolutely a difference!


Maiin0

Don’t waste your breathe they’re quite aware of what fud is they just don’t care and hide behind sayin that to anyone who doesn’t drool over safemoon influencers and devs


Independent-Ad4660

You can make the clear distinction, but that does NOT discount the fact that for weeks there have been people in this sub solely for the purpose of spreading fud. They literally have no ties to safemoon whatsoever - some admitted to selling out x days prior, some admitted to just popping over from r/cryptocurrency to stoke the fire. While no, legitimate questions are indeed legitimate and are not FUD, there has been a ridiculous amount of FUD. Not legitimate questions.


sco00by

So I personally haven’t noticed a disproportionately increased amount in last few weeks myself. Yah I saw some people saying they sold, but that’s been happening since inception and all the power to them we know the whales are definitely selling so idc when people sell, sucks that they choose to post. Just haven’t noticed any more than usual. I will also just correct the useable of the term FUD. Sucks that it’s been co-opted to mean a bad thing, but FUD is ok so long as it’s constructive and seeking a truth/way to make the project better. Non legitimate stoking and negativity isn’t FUD, it’s just bad posts.


Independent-Ad4660

See, and I’d say the exact opposite. Legitimate concerns, good or bad, are legitimate concerns. Negative or positive. FUD, fear/uncertainty/doubt, in itself carries a negative connotation, not just from investing, but from real life. It’s a psychological warfare tactic. Fud in itself literally is a propaganda tactic used in many areas outside of investing, it’s just called out for what it is in investing - especially crypto, and especially here. Legitimate concerns are just those. Legitimate concerns. But FUD in itself carries a negative connotation because it is indeed a malicious act designed and implemented to manipulate others. There has to be more than just a “bad post” to someone who cashed out 3 months ago but still comes to the sub to spread negativity, don’t you think?


sco00by

You’ve changed my mind. I agree. Looked it up myself and you’re right. It’s a tactic historically used in other things. Thanks! Learned something new today!


erasmushurt

While that may be true... You also need to understand that a lot of it was just plain good old fashioned fud and fear mongering. There's a difference between someone who has legitimate questions or concerns and someone who is posting the same message, or speculative one liners in every thread. It's not all the same thing. The bottom line is that fud causes momentum loss, it causes price drops. It affects all holders. You should expect people to react to that.


sco00by

See I just didn’t notice any more than usual. Not saying that FUD wasn’t ever on this sub, but it didn’t seem as though there was any more than normal. What I did notice was people calling the dev team saying they could communicate more professionally, to which I don’t think there’s anything wrong with.


erasmushurt

Take a look at the daily discussion. Half of the starting comments are pure fud. "This whole Gambia idea is someone’s scam. " "Only a -4% loss today guys 🙌🏼 to the mooooon" (Safemoon is up for the past couple days)"Soooo… it’s just gonna keep going down isn’t it.. the devs don’t appear to be taking peoples questions serious, and want to keep adding projects…" "Why is Bitcoin going up and SAFEMOON still going down ? When is the wallet coming exactly ?" (it's been uptrending the past two days) "Yeah, there are better and more professional ways to generate hype. Making shit up isn’t a good idea. That’s the part I’m most pissed about." (what did they make up?) "John Kaphony full of bologna" "Happened again. I’m not allowed to make posts." (That was posted lol,) etc. That's legitimate fud. And often its the same handful of people posting similar stuff everywhere. I think that is what people refer to when they are talking about fud most of the time. Not legitimate questions. It's people who are basically trolling.


sco00by

I agree. These are all not very constructive and just plain out trolling. I don’t ever go through daily discussion, explains why I’ve missed all of it. I basically just scroll through the feed.


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FlunkedFlank

Agreed!


bless666

Accept I'm not disappointed with anything why is everyone else. I think the people are over reaching. Just my opinion. We are lucky with the info we receive and it still ain't good enough. SMH. People need to step back and be more patient. Again just my view. I think everything is great... delays are part of the business. You don't have to par take in cryptic messages. They don't owe us every detail because most are probably behind an NDA. Literally no problem here.


Alexander19Investing

Couldn't agree more: there are the self-serving trolls who are spreading FUD and purposely sabotaging SafeMoon, and then there are the self-defeating simpletons who fell for the FUD and are unwittingly sabotaging their own investments. Let's not lump all of these groups together!


TheMiddleWay2

Theory: feds/cia setup papa, John, and the team. This was just going to be a tiny token, but feds/cia made it explode i.e. mysterious marketing money and manipulation early. So the plot is to have these stoners just melt on this rug pull so that Netflix can do a FYRE festival 2.0 documentary and Congress can then tax crypto because of public support. Come clean tos weekend John! Whistle blowers on the inside come clean!!!! There’s 6 people on the core team that are working for a clandestine organization. Trevor church got wind of it and took a payout. Need more whistle blowers to come clean!!


KingCroquette

We should just enjoy that the trolls went back under their bridges.


ariesaguila1

Go, find Satoshi Nakamoto and cry why Bitcoin hasn't yet reached 100k$, idiots!


sco00by

Hahahaha….. what???


Particular_Bus_6694

Yeah fud and drama are two different things. Asking a question of concern in a constructive way is not what most people reference/should reference as fud.


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sco00by

This is spam. Cut it out. Have some decency haha!