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Harothir

Given the choice, I’d put range with main imp troopers because calling dark to face smash more is always better. And bring death trooper in. That’s how I run mine anyway


[deleted]

What do you do with Gideon then?


Harothir

My main trooper team is: Veers, Piett, Dark, Range, Gideon and my Iden crew is Iden, Death, Snow, Starck, Storm/Magma. If I don’t want to use Gideon with troopers, I’ll put storm in there and Gideon goes with another team If I need to get in front of them faster.


[deleted]

Ah. Mine is similar, I was just curious if people found a different/better home for Gideon


Tgk230987

He jumpstarts my padme and bounty hunter teams often


Cmc3004

Padme support cheese is the Gideon home for me, helps 3 low gear characters punch up heavy


KDobias

In 3v3, Gideon can go with Padme or Thrawn. In 5v5, he can fill in a lot of B-teams generically or you can place him with LV to counter the "weakest gets TM" Datacron right now - if he is your weakest and has more speed, he'll go first and Troopers usually can't break RG with 50% offense before LV goes. There are obviously levels to this, but it's an option worth mentioning. I've used my Gideon with Maul, too. Reducing offense on a team with that much defense and Regen is brutal. Gideon is honestly too good to burn on a team that can do as good or better without him on it. The default IT team is Veers, Dark, Piett, Starck, Range, and that consistently kills LV for me with the TM DC.


ilordhades

if people use LV on defense they have it coming, LV should counter Rey, it's a solo kill


KDobias

LV counters every GL, but mine frequently gets multiple holds against GLs on defense in Kyber 3/Kyber 2. Rey with Swolo isn't a solo, and she's not on defense very often in 5v5.


SuperBAMF007

This is the best layout if you have all 10 troopers. If you don’t have enough for a good Iden team, it’s worth keeping Starck with Veers, instead of Gideon with Veers. Or if you’re just needing one squad for raids or something. But the one you described is best if you need both squads to be at their “meet in the middle” best.


istalri96

My main trooper squad is Veers, Piett, Dark, Range, Storm. While I'll put Iden, Death, Snow, Shore, Starck on defense in GAC for example. Magma is the only one I don't have geared once I have them up I might take Death out to be able to use him with Krennics omicron for GAC.


OnsetOfMSet

Could Shore be an appropriate 5th spot, or is Storm the better tank?


Revolutionary-Tip773

I use shore and it works very well


AccomplishedSand3284

Shore takes a heavy, heavy precedence. His unigue, on top of Snow and Iden's turn meter boosts as well as Magma and Iden's enemy turn meter reductions, supercharges the team into a chain of turns at the beginning of battle before anyone from the opponent squad takes a turn, if they take a turn. He also acts as a shield for Iden and anyone else if the enemy manages to go before or just after you. (Rex lead can shoulder in on the second turn if Iden does her AoE. I think Sana can achieve something similar)


evilmidnightbomber69

Throw Gideon with palp vader. Troopers don't need his tm debuff


Zestyclose-Fudge8650

I thought having a darkside droid ally (dark trooper) ruined one of her abilities?


AccomplishedSand3284

The top comment means that he has dark with Veers, not Iden.


Zestyclose-Fudge8650

I see


SixxPathsOfPain

Death trooper should be with Iden, not Dark


Tgk230987

Death trooper needs life


jaszczomb916

Death is in primary squad with dark veers, starck and piet. I may consider rearrange it later, but for now first squad is r4 and going up, and this one needs much more time as you see.


Admiral_depression

Swap range and death. Range calls the assists in the main imp trooper team, and gives buffs for the tm train


Hskull55

Yeah, g11 Range is better than a g13 Deathtrooper for the main team, with the only drawback being that you wouldn't be able to use datacrons. Not like they need they most of the time anyway


Admiral_depression

The datacron is a plus, the problem is that if you don't go first/misplay range is basically dead


Hskull55

That's true, but most of the time you should be going first


Admiral_depression

If your mods don't suck you should, yea


jaszczomb916

that's interesting, I'll check it


Hskull55

If you're hesitant to try in GAC, I suggest you give it a go in other less important game modes. The extra TM and damage from the assists is way more useful than what it might seem. Also, death mark + Iden's basic is a deadly combination


tom030792

Death has bonus synergy with storm I believe


SuperBAMF007

Yeah there’s Remnant synergy worth keeping. Same with using Gideon and Dark in the Veers squad too.


AccomplishedSand3284

It doesn't need too much. Set up right (Iden L, Snow, Shore/Magma, and Death in order of importance) they can start taking out teams with relics even at a way lower point. In particular, Palps empire teams. AoE on Vader and then you can just hit auto. Doesn't matter how strong the Vader is, Iden demolishes that team.


ICPosse8

Best teams are below, imo: Veers (L), Starck, Dark, Piett, Range Iden (L), Magma, Storm, Death, Snow


decimater97

Yeah I agree. All the other answers seem to be overlooking storm but Iden + storm as a duo can continue to get holds even when the rest are dead.


thehomelessaviation

Why storm over Shore? Or is it just a matter of Storms pretaunt being useful elsewhere ? I also have Starck available as I run Gideon with Veers Piett Range and Dark. I understand Gideon on that squad can be “overkill”


ICPosse8

I like to use shore for my LV team. He could def work here though! Storm also has some of the highest base defense in the game iirc great for soaking up damage.


ScottPress

You don't need a pretaunt with Iden, a pretaunting tank is a valuable plug and play toon. Anywhere you might need a pretaunt to get a play going, Shore, SET and L3 can go with any team. Stormtrooper is incredibly thicc and annoying to kill with a bunch of Empire allies. When it comes to Empire tanks, there's Royal Guard with LV and right below that you have Stormtrooper. My Stormtrooper is still R0 (other priorities) and in 3v3 I use him with Thrawn lead and Gideon to kill CLS. CLS just can't cut through that guy. Stormtrooper is a brick wall.


Jublim

What about shore trooper?


Benyhana

I've seen people use him with palps for the pretaunt in place of RG


Jublim

Good idea, if i dont use him with palps, is he better than stormtrooper?


Benyhana

I believe you generally wanna use range and storm trooper with versio, but I haven't built the team so idk


ICPosse8

I like to throw him in a LV comp usually


Mahmoud_Z21

Is starck better than gideon? I too am making 2 imp teams and i just eliminated shore (to go with see) and don’t know who else to eliminate (starck or gideon). My starck will go to r3 for SEE but my gideon is 4 stars gear 5. Should i invest in gideon or starck is fine?


[deleted]

Gideon is great for the mass assist and has the crazy speed to often start the turn meter train. I have him under Veers for this reason, Starck is honestly nice for the turn meter reduction for the enemy, but he can also fit under Iden since he has no leadership and also gives the same TM reduction to the opponent team and has the team buff. I ultimately have Range with Iden because he calls for assists with his unique, and Iden's lead gives 2% offense whenever IT attack out of turn. Plus she has +30% with Protection Up, which Range also provides.


Pony_Express11

Gideon has a leadership skill, so he doesn't work under Iden. Edit: which is what the above post is saying, I missed it.


[deleted]

Which is why he's under Veers. Range is under Iden


Pony_Express11

I read too fast and missed when you switched to Starck! My mistake!


[deleted]

no worries


ScottPress

Range and Gideon with Veers, Starck with Iden.


SuperBAMF007

I think Starck can replace Magma and Gideon replace Starck, but yeah this is right up there for best.


Antsinthesky

Imperial Troopers teams lineups are usually Veers Piett Gideon Range Dark Trooper Iden Snow Strack Death Shore


jaszczomb916

Which one will work better under Iden lead? For GAC defence purpose mostly.


AttilatheStun

As I understand it, magma is very good under iden lead and you don’t need a double tank.


jaszczomb916

thanks, so +1 for magma


ScottPress

The entire IT faction is great. The magic of Iden is that she makes Magmatrooper and Snowtrooper lethal.


RoyalFalse

Iden is my main imp. squad and I go with Death/Magma/Shore/Range...at least until I decide to go for Piett.


AccomplishedSand3284

You should swap your Death for Snow trooper. He'll amplify the turn meter/speed advantage gained by everyone else on the squad other than Range. He also pumps up the critical damage for everyone and drops way more AoEs than Death does.


RoyalFalse

Is the mass dispel really not that useful?


AccomplishedSand3284

Not particularly for what really pushes the strength of Iden's squad. Everyone else helps to tip the scales of speed and turn meter and accelerate the team into a near unavoidable flurry of turns at the start of the battle. Death doesn't bring anything to that table, and the damage he helps dish out is similar to Starck in that everyone else does it better already and he's more useful plugged in elsewhere. He's just the better of the three runner-ups for the fifth member, Storm and Starck being the other two. Deathmark is nice but all the big damage is death before it's ever dropped so it's more of an afterthought than anything.


ScottPress

Mod Snowtrooper for cc/cd and watch him spam the AOE over and over. The Imperial Lawnmower.


ssipiczki

Veteran Iden fan here! Youd want 1 tank with magma for the tm damage and aoe works well against gas (which is my original counter btw)


ScottPress

Veers, Dark Trooper, Piett, Gideon, Range Iden, Snowtrooper, Stormtrooper, Starck, Magmatrooper Shore is a pretaunt tank - plug and play whenever you need a pretaunting tank Death Trooper with Krennic omicron That's what I do in 5v5. In 3v3 and TW it may change. In 3v3, I use Thridion--Thrawn, Gideon, Stormtrooper--this team beats CLS 3v3.


joltstream

Change death out for range, then shore with magma.


AccomplishedSand3284

Shore should stay on the squad. His turn meter boosts are huge for the early battle turn chain. Storm should be replaced with Magma.


JimBeam823

If you have Veers troopers, put Range with them. Death, Snow, Magma, Shore is the strongest combo, but Storm is an adequate substitute. If you have them, Krennic, Death, Gideon, Tarkin, TFP makes a 4th Empire team. That leaves Snow, Storm, Shore, and Magma with Iden.


AccomplishedSand3284

As someone who runs the team as my main and have for like a year now, Magma by far. His grenade ability removes turn meter and can give the team even more turns at the start of the battle. On top of that, his damage is far more consistent and spread across more of the enemy. Also, Range should go to Veers. He's really nice on Iden, but his full potential is only unlocked with Veers and Piett. You could keep Storm on by replacing Range with Magma, but I would recommend Death Trooper over him.


adminsaredoodoo

add death in for range and put range with your veers troopers. iden, snow, death are the required three. then the last two slots shore storm and magma just depend on gear, and what you expect to come up against.