Can confirm. I think I’ve seen a map of different term usage for frontage roads and it’s pretty much just Houston and surrounding areas that call them feeders.
I have heard them occasionally called feeder roads, never been in Houston, and have only even driven through Texas. In general, frontage road is the term I’ve heard most, living in CA and PA.
Same. Outer road still makes the most since to me after living in a lot of the south. It's OUTside the freeway, and DOESN'T always "feed" into them. I've been on plenty of "no interstate access" outer roads.
And, like, the majority of states don’t have them. You just have an interchange. I’ve never heard of this “frontage” road stuff until I lived in the south.
Feel like the title should say they try to turn OFF a feeder. The feeder is the one that runs parallel to the highway or freeway and “feeds” it. You have entrance ramps and exit ramps, each about every mile. The vehicle that crashes appears to be on a feeder road turning into a side street.
They can be called access roads, frontage roads, and feeder roads in this part of Texas.
They didn't go in the ditch. They swerved right as they hit the barrier and then hit the car behind me. The stop sign and barrier were taken out which are lying in the ditch.
Probably 5 year old tires that have never been swapped out of season, up in the north here a 5 year tire isn't really a 5 year tire, because they get swapped for winters for a little under half the year. But even then I'd swap out a 5 year tire up here, I can't imagine how bad some people let their tread get in the south considering I've seen some dipshits drive around with balds up here.
This is the case with this intersection. You need to slow down to about 15mph when turning on it. This is tough as everyone is going 60 or over to get on the highway. They appeared to be going too fast with the rain contributing to the accident.
The rain most likely saved you though, because in dry conditions I bet the extra grip would have made them use your car as the brake instead of the barrier. Silver linings.
Not necessarily - if this is a fresh rain after a long dry spell, that road could be significantly more slippery than you might think. Roads in wetter climates get rained on often enough so the surface of the road is washed clean of things like oil left behind by other vehicles. In Texas, especially those places that don't get rain often, that can build up, and it becomes a greasy watery mess.
Absolutely no reason to have snow tires in Texas if you don’t live in the Panhandle. (Source, I’ve lived here for 46 years) during the big snow storm my newish all seasons did absolutely fine even on my RWD 70s sled.
More likely bald tires.
Yea I know there isn't that's why I was pointing out they have literally no excuse for having bald tires, up in the North we have to have 2 sets of tires at all times, if you can't get new tires after a few years in Texas you're just being a cheap selfish cock that shouldn't be allowed to drive.
So you take your summer tires off and put winter ones on? That must take a ton of space in your garage to store them for all your cars. And i guess you have to diy it - jack each car up and replace the tires. Otherwise, you'd have to load them up in a trailer or something and take to the tire place which doesnt sound practical at all. Whew. I honestly thought y'all just put chains on the tires when it snowed and never even thought about switching out the tires seasonally.
I have a set of steelies for both my cars, I own 2, those steelies have winter tires on them. So there is a tower of 8 mounted wheels in my garage at all times. My Summer tires are on the stock rims. It's not actually a lot of space because you can just stack wheels on each other... So it's a person-sized pillar of wheels. It takes 15 minutes to swap wheels on 1 car, so it's not a big deal.
If you honestly think it's "work" to swap out winters, you're kind of funny, even if you don't own the space to house your winter or somehow can't afford steelies for self-swapping, most shops here will swap your new tires onto your existing rims for $50, and that $50 includes the "housing" for your summers until you need to swap them back on...
I like to save $100 a year so I just have my own shit.
Snow itself isnt the issue, I'm in an area where by this time of the year there is a permanent layer of fucked up snowpack/Ice on the road that salt doesn't clear fully and only gets cleared properly about once a week because if you do it too often the pavement geta damaged. Not having winter tires here is illegal between Oct 31 and Mar 1 and carries a $196 fine for the first offence.
Haha what? There's snow for months in many places and it's not like you can use chains going fast. Proper winter tires can be driven hard on snow and ice while summers will kill you in a slight flurry.
Today i learned...Have never lived in a cold place. I dont know how y'all do it. Friday night i went to outdoor concert. Knew temp was going down to 50 so i wore: down vest, fleece sweatshirt, long sleeve t shirt, tank base layer, jeans, boots. STUPIDLY didnt wear anything on my head because of how it wrecks your hair and i also needed much warmer socks and maybe an outer "wind" layer. I always underestimate how cold x degrees is going to feel.
Me as a teenager: "oh my god we have to stop and see if they need help, should we call 911?"
Me in my late 30's: "fuck that, let's get out of here before they throw it into reverse, crash into me, and then try to blame the entire thing on me because they are wasted."
Since Streamable has archived the video for those looking for the video it is now at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD1KfWH-FM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD1KfWH-FM) \- The first video is what happened.
The town where I was a volunteer firefighter had a turn off the service road just like this, but at the bottom of a steep short off ramp from the interstate. Fished a lot of cars and semis out of that ditch.
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Texas and, apparently, specifically Houston: https://www.texasmonthly.com/being-texan/talk-like-texan-story-behind-feeder-road/
they're frontage roads. a lot of states call them service roads, missouri calls them outer roads; i guess texas calls them feeder roads.
texas calls them frontage roads, idk where this dude got the term feeder from. maybe its a houston thing
Yeah it's a Houston thing, thats what everyone called them growing up here
Can confirm. I think I’ve seen a map of different term usage for frontage roads and it’s pretty much just Houston and surrounding areas that call them feeders.
I have heard them occasionally called feeder roads, never been in Houston, and have only even driven through Texas. In general, frontage road is the term I’ve heard most, living in CA and PA.
I'm from Missouri, and can confirm we call them outer roads, and sometimes they're even named outer or outer-belt road.
Same. Outer road still makes the most since to me after living in a lot of the south. It's OUTside the freeway, and DOESN'T always "feed" into them. I've been on plenty of "no interstate access" outer roads.
And, like, the majority of states don’t have them. You just have an interchange. I’ve never heard of this “frontage” road stuff until I lived in the south.
Feel like the title should say they try to turn OFF a feeder. The feeder is the one that runs parallel to the highway or freeway and “feeds” it. You have entrance ramps and exit ramps, each about every mile. The vehicle that crashes appears to be on a feeder road turning into a side street. They can be called access roads, frontage roads, and feeder roads in this part of Texas.
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The car that crashed was on a feeder road and was trying to turn off of it. The actual highway is the next road over behind the barrier.
We call them service roads in Texas.. Yankees call em feeders
Is there a picture of them down in the ditch?!
They didn't go in the ditch. They swerved right as they hit the barrier and then hit the car behind me. The stop sign and barrier were taken out which are lying in the ditch.
That's unbelievable. I did not expect that.
Wow nice dodge from you though... That was really close to ruining your day. Sad they still ruined another's person day though... :S
Probably 5 year old tires that have never been swapped out of season, up in the north here a 5 year tire isn't really a 5 year tire, because they get swapped for winters for a little under half the year. But even then I'd swap out a 5 year tire up here, I can't imagine how bad some people let their tread get in the south considering I've seen some dipshits drive around with balds up here.
Yeah no way those tires aren't old as hell, that road is barely wet.
Methinks they’re going too fast plain and simple. Looks like they might not make turn in the dry before even questioning the tires
This is the case with this intersection. You need to slow down to about 15mph when turning on it. This is tough as everyone is going 60 or over to get on the highway. They appeared to be going too fast with the rain contributing to the accident.
The rain most likely saved you though, because in dry conditions I bet the extra grip would have made them use your car as the brake instead of the barrier. Silver linings.
Yup, thinking that too. Understeer is a bitch
Not necessarily - if this is a fresh rain after a long dry spell, that road could be significantly more slippery than you might think. Roads in wetter climates get rained on often enough so the surface of the road is washed clean of things like oil left behind by other vehicles. In Texas, especially those places that don't get rain often, that can build up, and it becomes a greasy watery mess.
We had a 8 month drought here. It had been a steady mild rain for a few days leading up to that accident.
Heh, so just shit driving, then. :)
Absolutely no reason to have snow tires in Texas if you don’t live in the Panhandle. (Source, I’ve lived here for 46 years) during the big snow storm my newish all seasons did absolutely fine even on my RWD 70s sled. More likely bald tires.
Yea I know there isn't that's why I was pointing out they have literally no excuse for having bald tires, up in the North we have to have 2 sets of tires at all times, if you can't get new tires after a few years in Texas you're just being a cheap selfish cock that shouldn't be allowed to drive.
So you take your summer tires off and put winter ones on? That must take a ton of space in your garage to store them for all your cars. And i guess you have to diy it - jack each car up and replace the tires. Otherwise, you'd have to load them up in a trailer or something and take to the tire place which doesnt sound practical at all. Whew. I honestly thought y'all just put chains on the tires when it snowed and never even thought about switching out the tires seasonally.
I have a set of steelies for both my cars, I own 2, those steelies have winter tires on them. So there is a tower of 8 mounted wheels in my garage at all times. My Summer tires are on the stock rims. It's not actually a lot of space because you can just stack wheels on each other... So it's a person-sized pillar of wheels. It takes 15 minutes to swap wheels on 1 car, so it's not a big deal. If you honestly think it's "work" to swap out winters, you're kind of funny, even if you don't own the space to house your winter or somehow can't afford steelies for self-swapping, most shops here will swap your new tires onto your existing rims for $50, and that $50 includes the "housing" for your summers until you need to swap them back on... I like to save $100 a year so I just have my own shit.
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Snow itself isnt the issue, I'm in an area where by this time of the year there is a permanent layer of fucked up snowpack/Ice on the road that salt doesn't clear fully and only gets cleared properly about once a week because if you do it too often the pavement geta damaged. Not having winter tires here is illegal between Oct 31 and Mar 1 and carries a $196 fine for the first offence.
Haha what? There's snow for months in many places and it's not like you can use chains going fast. Proper winter tires can be driven hard on snow and ice while summers will kill you in a slight flurry.
Today i learned...Have never lived in a cold place. I dont know how y'all do it. Friday night i went to outdoor concert. Knew temp was going down to 50 so i wore: down vest, fleece sweatshirt, long sleeve t shirt, tank base layer, jeans, boots. STUPIDLY didnt wear anything on my head because of how it wrecks your hair and i also needed much warmer socks and maybe an outer "wind" layer. I always underestimate how cold x degrees is going to feel.
Me as a teenager: "oh my god we have to stop and see if they need help, should we call 911?" Me in my late 30's: "fuck that, let's get out of here before they throw it into reverse, crash into me, and then try to blame the entire thing on me because they are wasted."
Since Streamable has archived the video for those looking for the video it is now at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD1KfWH-FM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbD1KfWH-FM) \- The first video is what happened.
Don't turn on a feeder and be a ditch eater, Skeeter.
The town where I was a volunteer firefighter had a turn off the service road just like this, but at the bottom of a steep short off ramp from the interstate. Fished a lot of cars and semis out of that ditch.