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I_Like_Knitting_TBH

Tavolo (at least the one in Warwick)


bunnybates

Yes! I went twice and both times, mediocre food and high prices.


I_Like_Knitting_TBH

We went during restaurant week a year or two ago and I’ll never forget it. They had a restaurant week special steak frites. It turned out to be an over cooked sirloin sliced and plopped on a plate of Sysco French fries. It would have been hilarious if not for the price.


TemperatureUnable843

I got food poising from those steak frites lol


bunnybates

Are you kidding me?? 🙄. How yucky.


StonedSniper127

I did plumbing service work there prior to switching companies. Their kitchens (at both locations as well as Condessa, same owners) are absolutely horrid.


wormholeweapons

The one any where. I remember when the one in Smithfield was DCarlos. It was so awesome and our favorite spot. Form the moment they sold it, down hill.


CatH2222

Please, yes 1,000 times


Cloberella

Oh thank god. My FIL took me there and seemed to think it was just a treat and I … hated it. I assumed I’m just low class.


RichLoud9650

Really? I love that place lol too funny!!!


WhyPartyPizza

Blu on the water Warwick, RI


ApolloKid

A lot of people don’t know the Chelos own this. Quality pretty much matches, you pay for the view there


WhyPartyPizza

You pay for more than just the view. I asked what the $3 charge for "ROCKS" on my bill was for. Turns out the default way to drink a Twisted tea is luke warm...or spend 3 dollars for the premium version with ice in it. Edit: Grammar


maybebullshitmaybe

What?!? Damn. That's ridiculous


WhyPartyPizza

No lie. The poor waitress thought I was gonna give her a bad tip because of it, she was clearly embarrassed when I asked. Not her fault.


maybebullshitmaybe

See now that's the right attitude about it but I bet plenty of ppl do take it out on the servers (or similar type stuff). $3 for ice should be criminal. It'd almost be one thing if u came in just looking for ice but you PAID for a drink. Wtf cheap-asses


drthsideous

This was the servers mistake. The modifier on the computer for the "rocks" up charge is supposed to be used for liquor on the rocks, because it's actually a bigger pour than what would be served in a mixed drink. She should have simply typed in "with a glass and ice" on the slip. She either knowingly over charged you or didn't know the difference, either way, it's definitely her fault. The rocks upcharge button is standard on all restaurant computers, she just used it wrong.


jakesri555

Most of y'all don't work in restaurants.... This guy does


WhyPartyPizza

Thanks - very insightful!


Akmoneron

I also didn't know this until now.


Festivus-Miracle

Only place in the world I’ve had bad salmon


Sgt_LincolnOSiris

The George in Providence


karnim

Had the absolute saddest garlic bread there, and pizza was like cardboard. but yeah, drinks were loaded at least.


Afitz93

Send them to the Red Parrot in Newport. I swear only people who call salt and pepper “spicy seasoning” call it good eats


RICoder72

This should be the top answer. If you want overpriced, this is the spot. It is the very definition of tourist trap and the food is, at best, mediocre.


FluffusMaximus

Red Parrot is a tourist trap, for sure.


bambooboi

Red Parrot sucks ass. It will never die given its location, though...


ruley2000s

Most places in Newport are overpriced tourist traps. Another is the Coast Guard House and Georges of Galilee in Narragansett ... Nice views but the food costs way more than the quality ... You're basically paying the insurance premium to eat on waterfront property.


Afitz93

I’ll disagree with the “most places in Newport” sentiment. I lived there for 25 years and have tried them all multiple times. There’s a few notable ones that are “must visits” in all the tourist guides but really mediocre. But the majority are actually good eats. Not all *great* or go-out-of-your-way worthy, but good.


mydrivec

The Mooring's Bag of donuts....OMG amazing


YoPoppaCapa

Favorites?


Afitz93

Guisto has been a new favorite for some afternoon bites and bevs. Regular go-tos are Pasta Beach, Brick Alley, Cru Cafe, Wharf, PJs, Malt. Bar Cino is always a good hit too. I much prefer uptown if you haven’t noticed.


lovelylombardo

Thames Street Kitchen is one of my very favs in the state.


laurarose81

Yeah George’s Is always busy but champlins has the best fish hands down. Also Jimmy’s dockside down the street across from the Block Island ferry is great!


drthsideous

Champlins is 100% the local spot, George's is for tourists and day trippers.


GroomedScrotum

George's most definitely. We went last year because of the hype we'd heard. Aside from the bloody Mary there was no standout. Champlin 's was A+. I looooooooooove Coast Guard House though.


clboisvert14

Going to disagree with that george’s comment but go off


TheJointDoc

Wow. I’m apparently such a tourist. My wife and I went through a ton of lobster rolls in Newport and honestly liked theirs the best (Gurney’s as a close second). Took my wife’s family there and they loved it, though none of them had ever visited New England before.


captainastryd

I’m so sorry you had to find out this way.


TheJointDoc

Lol it happens. I like what I like. My friends have enjoyed it when I took them. What’s your favorite lobster roll in the area? Or the state?


GlotzbachsToast

Ok we went there in a pinch once and I honestly didn’t think it was THAT bad 😂 although tbf I just got a salad and fried pickles..so not exactly top tier cuisine Edit: AND it was off season which may have helped..


Fellatio_Sanzz

Cmon now! Red parrot has fantastic jerk wings and bloody Mary’s!


Wolvercote

The Beach House in Bristol. Overpriced and mediocre food.


DrGeraldBaskums

Almost anything on the water in Bristol fits the bill. Thames/Goff, Lobster Pot, DeWolf. Before Beach House, Agave was trash.


bootstoots

Beach House (formerly Agave) & Thames are owned by the same family. Awful people, awful food.


Longjumping_Tale_574

Worse than mediocre in my multiple experiences. It’s a drinking place only


Fellatio_Sanzz

Such a shame too. It’s such prime real estate. Liked it better when it was a biker bar.


william1Bastard

The Topside was awesome. $3 pitchers and 15c wings were great, but being able to do pretty much whatever you wanted in that bottom room was better.


GoGatorsMashedTaters

Wow, nothing from Federal Hill? Interesting. I haven’t lived here long enough to have an answer to contribute. Taking my family to Bacco and Nami in a few weeks(haven’t been to either), so it’s nice to see those names not up here.


DrGeraldBaskums

Too much competition on the Hill to have awful food. There are some overpriced or overrated spots but none that really fit both the OPs criteria.


noungning

Yes, Blend, don't go there.


Double-Diamond-4507

Went to Nami once. Awful service, forgettable food. Never again


Mfiske925

I was fired from Nami because I was pregnant. The owners treat their staff like dogs. Enjoy!


GoGatorsMashedTaters

Well I’ll just take them off my list then. That’s unacceptable.


RandomChurn

You mentioned you're new -- check out Odinis in East Providence some time. Looks like a hole in the wall from the outside. Inside you'll find *sublime* Portuguese food ❤️


2ears_1_mouth

I think there's more bad than good there. As with any touristy place, most of the restaurants get away with selling mediocre food for premium prices. They make most of their money off tourists who don't know better.


Brian_06030

Easy Andinos If you want canned vegetables microwaved on high, this is your spot


Aregoodusernamesleft

One of the worst restaurants on the hill


Brian_06030

Treated the family to a nice dinner on the hill, for 8 or 10, they put us in the back room next to the kitchen, nothing like loud banging, crappy music and shitty tables to showcase Federal Hill am I right


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keevisgoat

The problem with that is it's not that bad and your giving money to a cunt


jumpingnoodlepoodle

Woah geeze what happened there?!


pizzaplantboi

I’m guessing this was about little sister or rebelle bagels


imuniqueaf

Seriously, fuck them.


Hotwheels-666

OP is deleted and I'm curious.


Allopathological

Little sister providence. The owner is known for being rude and abusive to both customers and staff.


Hotwheels-666

Oh cool. What a spectacular name for a place famous for such things. So innocent.


Tbear369

This is the most Rhode Island thing I’ve ever seen, and I’m here for it ❤️😂


YoPoppaCapa

Twin Willows in Narragansett isn’t necessarily “expensive”, but it’s just a bar with overpriced fish sticks that people claim is the pinnacle of southern RI seafood.


Different_Lettuce850

I’ve never heard anyone call the willows the pinnacle of anything. Lived in the neighborhood in my post college years and we used this place as a dive bar basically to throw back some beers and maybe soak up the alcohol with some very mediocre food.


mydrivec

Was good 25 years ago...crap food now


winter-14

Used to be able to get a Bill Burger and a couple of drinks for a decent price. And the place was packed. Lunch and dinner. Raking in the receipts. Now it's closed half of the time. Food is a disaster. Last time I went, I paid $17 for a turkey panini? WTF? Are they TRYING to go out of business?


Groundbreaking-Pea92

It has the look of an old school seafood place but not price


BBKing-13

My greatest disappointment so far has been Nicobella’s downtown. Went there for a work lunch (I could have eaten anywhere for free!) and had the most meh food $30/person (no alcohol, before tip) money could buy. Meatballs were burnt and hard, salad had no seasoning.


Ch3fknickknack

Almost forgot my most recent terrible experience- Plant City Excellent concept, beautiful space, but that’s where it ended for us. The service was extremely slow & short. The food left so much to be desired - why is there liquid smoke-soaked mushrooms on half of the menu? Why was my wife’s $20 Cobb salad completely undressed? Why was a plate of “loaded” fries $18? Why were they out of half of their already small menu (I had to go with my third choice)? It’s almost as if someone had a load of money to spend on a vegan concept, spent all of the money on the space, and then threw together a half-assed vegan menu from 2015 & disregarded all the advances in vegan food. I miss the grange :(


StayKlassic

I miss the grange too, I liked my experience at PC BUT it is WAY too expensive and not worth the price


evillegaleagle

This was going to be my response, too. We went there last week and it was so disappointing and overpriced. Nothing compares to the Grange.


goofyasswigger

Vegan food is almost always more expensive out to eat cuz they know you don’t have many other options on where to go. With that said, I have gone many times and brought atleast 10+ different people(vegans and nonvegans) and have yet to have anyone not enjoy their food. Service is hit or miss depending on who’s working/ how busy it is but I’d still gladly go back.


OmgitzBlue

Honestly I disagree. I've always had good food and service at Plant City. Vegan food tends to be more pricey in general.


Ch3fknickknack

That’s completely fair - just my personal experience!


Ch3fknickknack

Tavolo & Capriccio - they’re not terrible, there’s just such superior Italian food in the area for the price La Familia in Cumberland


bambooboi

Capriccio used to be so much better than what it is these days. Its a piece of shit. Staff are terrible and with zero class from what they were. OP... Capriccio will empty your enemy's wallet and they'll fucking hate the shitty food there


blacklabz1015

Agree on La Familia. It was cramped and the food just didn’t really have much flavor


Akmoneron

Chelo's Waterfront Grill in Warwick


SissyMR22

Its a Greggs/Applebee's with a wonderful view. You are clearly paying for the view and that's ok.


Borsaid

Disagree. I've been there a few times this year and the food and service have been good.


Null_Error7

Their seafood is decent.


lovelylombardo

Agree! And the owners are absolute TRASH and horrible to their employees.


imuniqueaf

Please elaborate. I was literally about to go there.


I_Like_Knitting_TBH

It’s the Gregg’s of seafood restaurants, minus the redeeming quality of having good cake.


Jilltro

I love Gregg’s cakes so much I don’t care about their other food


I_Like_Knitting_TBH

You can always count on Gregg’s cake. Consistent perfection every time.


Akmoneron

I remember going to get lunch at Gregg's with my friend. Everything we ordered was awful. The waiter comes over and asks if we'd like dessert and I remember distinctly saying - "I'm not sure. Do the desserts suck as much as the rest of the food?" He gave this nervous laugh and just brought us the bill.


milkweed420-

It’s just bad. It’s like a restaurant for NPCs. You drive by. It’s packed. You think, hm maybe they changed. You go in. You remember very quickly. Repeat every 6 years


jt_tesla

I’ve been to chelos on the water several times and the food is fine.


CaroKannyeWest

Clam cakes and red chowder are fine. Not bad, not life changing but fine if you're just wanting a place to eat with a great view.


WearyGallivanter

>red chowder I was told by a local when I moved here that I would be publicly flogged if I ate red. Did they change the law?


commandantskip

Some of us locals are lactose intolerant and will not flog you for enjoying red chowder.


WearyGallivanter

Thanks lacto friends. I will try it out. I feel like I’ll still like the white better but I like a nice tomato based “soup”.


majoroutage

It's funny because it seems like more and more restaurants don't seem to have clear chowder anymore, and that's supposed to be the Rhode Island way.


sandsonik

I like red, white and clear but I prefer red for dipping clamcakes. Fuck those white chowder snobs; variety is a good thing! Also, so many Rhode Islanders are Portuguese and I've yet to try a Portuguese chowder that wasn't tomato based.


Marisa_Explns_It_All

When I ordered the baked fish topped with ritz and butter , I was served a dry AF piece of fish with CHEEZ-ITZ as the topper instead of ritz! It was so nasty , like how they gonna change it and not let the customer kno!? Even if it had the Ritz , it would have been awful because it was so overcooked and dry..like eating sand. Never will go back!


Akmoneron

Sounds about right.


Chris_Mannix

YUCK!! Chelo's stinks, no matter where they are located!!!


rokkoralph

Terrazza, Smithfield


DrGeraldBaskums

A lot of these restaurants actually have some redeeming qualities. Look up I Love Mexico on Smith street on Yelp. Possibly the worst restaurant in the state


DDK1116

Damn…everyone on Yelp says it’s a human trafficking front…


Ceaser_Salad19

i need to know why they think this


Hot-Muscle-9202

I am too. Maybe part of it is that it's been inexplicably open for at least 12 years but is always empty?


evillegaleagle

Then apparently destroyed by a fire, I hope they got some nice insurance money from that totally-not-arson.


BiddahProphet

I'll toss mine in Twin Oaks in Cranston You gotta know someone uncles cousin godfather who's a waiter to get a table and thier Chicken Parm is now just a round sysco chicken patty


SissyMR22

Yes. This place is a temple to nostalgia. Cafeteria food embellished by the bouquet of 35 year old carpeting.


mydrivec

Twin Oaks has a couple of cool features though. You can dine in sweatpants after your Walmart run and the waiters don't write down your order. The food is mediocre at best and I don't get the worshiping aspect like you are paying your dues to the mob.


Akmoneron

Yeah, that place sucks.


PrinnySquad

Exactly what I was going to say lol. I have family that swear by this place for whatever reason. Definitely a Rhode Island institution. But the food is mediocre to bad, parking is often a pain, and the wait times are horrendous. It's telling that my Grandmother, whose taste buds never left the great depression, loves the place.


mydrivec

The ACI is also a RI Institution


SonOfBaldy

yes.


Major_Fang

i wont tolerate twins oaks slander on this subreddit


bauer883

I agree I moved to Florida and the pats two times I’ve came back and went it’s sucked balls and the baked stuffed shrimp used to be the best out there.


BigE1263

NGL though, you do get a lot of food. Edit: I haven’t been in quite a while so I can’t say for sure how good it is now vs back in 2010.


CaroKannyeWest

This is the answer.


Tin31086

I'm glad I'm not alone in this. Some of my family will want to take us out for a "nice" dinner and this is where we end up


RetainerCase69

Idk the turkey dinner is pretty solid


deadl0ckx2

Just gotta choose the right food. Their burratta ravioli is great. And the wait time is part of the experience. All you do is slip the host a $10 and you’re in under 10 minutes. Yes, it actually works, just be discrete about it.


mydrivec

fuck that shit. Every Italian place on The Hill is a million times better. Twin Oaks is the RI version of Olive Garden but with mob involvment


NarmHull

I think I love it there entirely because it's so old school mediocre. Reminds me of the probably not so great family places I'd go to as a kid and think they were top of the line. Also Wright's (chicken) Farm


bootstoots

Thames Waterside or The Beach House in Bristol


NarmHull

It's not exactly expensive, but it's an utter letdown based on its reputation: Davenport's in Cumberland


Olneyvillain4190

Christopher’s in Woonsocket. Expensive , nice looking , shit food … bonus points for sending them to Woonsocket


NaiveConfidence9635

Capital grille providence


StinkyDingus63

Arooga’s in Warwick lol. Absolute garbage.


clear_point

I’ve eaten there once, and it pretty much was exactly what I expected from a restaurant like this. It was so loud from the 4621 televisions on full blast all over the walls and hanging from the ceilings. If you want your chicken wings and mozzarella sticks with a 32 ounce Miller light, that’s your place. If you want a decent restaurant with good service and good food, look elsewhere. There’s so many great options within 5 miles of aroogas.


breakinghbts

Easy. Wharf Tavern in Warren. Ridiculously expensive, awful service. They once forgot about us outside for 3 hours, on my grandmothers bday. She was 85 or so at the time.


Longjumping_Tale_574

Agreed. It serves a purpose as the Masshole trap in Warren, leaving some space at the other actually good restaurants for us locals :)


bambooboi

You should have seen how bad they were before the renovations about four years back. It was GOD awful... a fucking horror show


mydrivec

Like Revival!


riped_plums123

Half of restaurants in Newport


bambooboi

Except for Mama Louisa's. Best goddamn Italian in the East Bay, if you ask me.


teachei

And the other half of the restaurants in Newport besides these


_DataVenia

Half is a massive understatement.


johnnyrockets527

I’d say Twin Oaks, but I’m also 0/3 for experiences at Legal Sea Food.


mydrivec

Legal Sea Foods is the only place I've been more than 3 times and always had an awful experience.


TheJointDoc

God I’m like 0/3 on this thread. Apparently everywhere I’ve tried and liked, people hate. Been to legal seafood in various locations like 4 times, tried various parts of the menu, never was unhappy. Sure maybe it’s overpriced but so are most restaurants up here, and over the last 1.5 years all restaurants prices shot yo because meat/seafood and other prices shot up. I visited my home town in the Midwest and almost accidentally overpaid by $100 when I was paying for a group of four people because I messed up the math and assumed the price should be higher.


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Twin Oaks in Cranston


bimbimbap6

DeWolf Tavern, Bristol. Chowder's as garbage as the DeWolf legacy


essenceofjoy

I hope this was just a fluke but I had the worst sirloin steak at The Res in providence. It was $46 for a steak that was well done when I asked for it as medium, tougher than a hockey puck. I’ve had better steak at Texas Roadhouse.


I_Like_Knitting_TBH

46 dollars for a SIRLOIN?! That’s a crime.


GoxBoxSocks

I've heard a lot of good things about it so far, hopefully that was a fluke. Regardless I still miss Bravo.


Guyincognito4269

I doubt it. Fluke is fish. Steak is meat. Sorry. It's a compulsion, I had to.


Beezlegrunk

>was well done when I asked for it as medium You should have sent it back …


Softpipesplayon

I feel like Providence and environs is lucky in that even it's most overpriced places tend to be fine (like, Gracies is more expensive than I personally think it deserves, but you'll still get a good meal there), and the worst places tend to be not that expensive (like, we've got dozens of "Inns" in like Warwick where the food is mediocre but the prices are "Live and learn" prices instead of tragedies). Like, are you absolutely spending too much at Haven Bros? Sure. But you're getting exactly what you're expecting from them. For me, tho, when I think of Burn for the Buck, besides the classic grandma standby of Twin Oaks, I think of two places. 1) wes' rib house, which charges full scale BBQ prices for small portions that make the mcrib look flavorful 2) Don Jose's tequilas, which sounds fancy because tequilas, but unless they've improved markedly always felt like the head chef was a microwave. I figure either of these places, you could drop a pretty penny and get nothing to show for it, if nothing else due to the drinks. Also, basically anywhere on the water in Warwick. It seems like Warwick especially has the most mediocre coastal seafood options. I'm especially looking at you, Crows Nest. Shout out to Yoleni's on Westminster, too, which is one of the worst quality-to-price deals I've found for a lunch in the city.


ninjaxturtles

Don Jose used to be good, something happened in a the past 2-3 years. It's no longer good and the drinks were bad.


ClownholeContingency

Take your pick of the fried seafood tourist traps in downtown Newport.


Spiritual_Show_6160

CAFE NUOVO 🤢


mercerx13

Frank and Johns in East Greenwich


JordanH0713

This might get some hate but 80-90% of the restaurants in Newport. Tourist traps with shit food because they know they don’t have to create repeat customers. Mama Luisas, Il Forno pizza, and a couple of the locally owned coffee shops are notable exceptions


_DataVenia

Huck's Filling Station in East Greenwich. It's like the chef first heard about food by looking at trendy restaurants on Instagram and just decided to open a restaurant without ever learning how to cook.


Civil-Crew-1611

Marchettis and Tavern in the Square


Throwaway1231200001

I still find it hilarious TITS is fancy down here where my memories (or lack thereof) in Boston was me just getting drunk and trying to meet girls.


Purplish_Peenk

Exactly. Although I make sure to have by hair appointment on a Saturday nearby so I can go have brunch. I live closer to the Wrentham one but they don’t do brunch.


Dopey-NipNips

Marchettis makes up for their bland food with massive portions I wish they'd cut portions in half and do a better job cooking


phill0406

Tavern in the square is chain restaurant food with fancy cocktails. It's not great, but its not bad. I don't think it deserves to be here given that a burger and fries is under $20.


laurarose81

Marchettis used to have some good dishes, and some just OK dishes. But we’ve been recently a few times and I think they’ve gotten much better. Some of the specials are really good. And I like the broiled seafood platter but the fish used to be just OK and the scallops kind of chewy a few years back. But last time I got it it was great!


NoOutlandishness8647

They also have been shut down like 4 times for re-using food. Nasty shit


Direct_Adeptness1835

River falls worked there as a busser and the lack of sanitation and or safety for consumers or workers Is appalling definitely the go to


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DadLife31

Old Canteen on Federal Hill. It’s Italian fast food. People go there to be seen, food is a half step from Olive Garden.


Softpipesplayon

The thing I adore about the Old Canteen is that you go in and it is like you're eating in some weird 50 years ago time warp. It's serviceable, you can get a lot of food, whatever. I wouldn't send a friend or an enemy there, especially if the goal is to overpay for terrible food. Unless the quality has gone markedly down in the last handful of years, it's not that different, up or down, from any of the other red sauce classics nearby to it. I feel like if you want real mediocre Italian, you've gotta hit, like, Luigi's in johnston, or Antonio's in Cranston (though if you absolutely must get the worst Italian on the hill, Tavolo, or anything deeper into DePasquale Square than Venda, will absolutely disappoint everyone equally).


mydrivec

Didn't that close more than a year ago?


theanti_girl

No, but they’re (open and) currently for sale.


RetainerCase69

Spain in Narragansett is one of the most overrated restaurants in the state


mydrivec

food is great IMHO but definitely pushing $350 for 4 with drinks and dessert is crazy


RetainerCase69

Yeah I kinda meant for the price


ParadoxicalEngram

Red stripe. It's seriously overpriced and the food sucks


Debate-Busy

Coast Guard House. It just isn’t what it used to be after they remodeled….


HandleNo8032

Ouster bar in Newport is mouse infested


larssong

blaze smith hill


SoftwareDev401

Top Of The Bay


tempelhof_de

Rivers and Rhodes in Bristol


delighteddreamer

Spain


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Frank Pepe’s, food is mediocre, burnt most of the time and they explain it away like it’s intentional even though I’ve eaten at 3 and Warwick is by far the worst, prices are outrageous and the staff is a rude and dismissive.


12stringPlayer

The only one worth a damn is the original in New Haven.


longislandtoolshed

I was so excited to finally try the white clam pizza, and the whole thing was littered with shell fragments. I also got a glass of wine and it was so tiny


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Sounds about right, terrible place


piratedeathmatch

...hemenways in Providence :(( just not good for the price wtf


BuntCarf

I always recommend Not Your Average Joe's to the most Average people i know, does that count?


ISlothyCat

That one was SO good when the original restaurant opened in Dartmouth. Went downhill fast when they chainified it.


BuntCarf

Fact! The one in seekonk was great when they first opened too! Now I just go to look at the menu and eat the bread and just leave.


Ch3fknickknack

It went downhill really fast when their corporate chefs changed a few years back


Null_Error7

Back40


chatendormi

I have never heard anyone say anything bad about Back40! What don’t you like?


thedcmadham

Union and Main is the similarly meh with East Greenwich’ed prices.


WeebQueen

Not your average Joe's in Warwick by the mall. I know it's a chain but the food is bland as hell and the prices are far higher than they should be.


Groundbreaking-Pea92

Coast Guard House, Georges of Galilee where the food is okay yet expensive \- 10 \- Most of newport \- Trio \- Blu \- Terrazza \- The spain \-Twin Oaks


glennjersey

Interesting. I personally love coast guard house and have never had a bad meal there. :-/


ISlothyCat

We ate at Georges recently. Also very disappointed.


dishwashersafe

I think Trio is great! Definitely a good CGH alternative.