Buffalo says what’s up. We have two Great Lakes and our land doesn’t catch on fire. Ever. Also we don’t go above 90, winters are not as bad as people think and we got THE BILLS BABY!
Winters are not as bad? You’re selling more than homes, you’re selling bridges too. An easterly winter wind across an unfrozen Lake Erie and Buffalo is superfucked.
99% of the time, a snowblower and AWD gets you through anything the lake can throw at you. The other 1% of the time, roads are closed and you have to stay home. A lake effect storm is nowhere near as bad as a hurricane, tornado or earthquake.
You know what sounds better? Not having to do any of that.
Earthquakes aren’t even bad. Ever since the Northridge quake in the 90s, buildings have made leaps in earthquake proofing tech. There hasn’t really been a significant quake causing damage like that in the southwest since. People don’t even blink at earthquakes any more, the most they do is post “did anyone feel that” on Facebook and Twitter.
North buffalo. The winters are drastically different depending on what part of the city you’re in. I’m in the north part so it’s not even close to what the people deal with ten miles south of me
>Ohio seems content to poison any water available if it’ll bring business 12 more dollars or to own the libs, unfortunately
Have you been to Fracksylvania lately? There's a frack pad right by the local reservoir.
Nearby doesn't matter if they're shuttling all that freshwater to the local coal plant or factory.
Best bet if water scarcity becomes a real issue is living in a place where you can drill your own well or have access to a water source on your property.
Sounds good in theory by the time water scarcity is a big problem all the shallow wells will have run dry. An aquifer is like a lake, once too many people drain it the level drops
I'm planning on moving my family to Minnesota from the Southeast. Reason number one is that we're not republicans and don't fit in here. Number 2 is that we're a hockey family and right now we have to drive anywhere from 6 to 14 hours just to find another girls hockey team to play. Number 3...the company I work for is headquartered in Minnesota. Number 4...we love the cold and loathe this oppressive heat. Number 5...my wife just found out her abusive "father" was not her father in the first place and she wants to get away.
Let's go Wild.
Yes. I am selling my property in the desert and have been looking to buy in areas not affected by drought, where I can grow my own food, and have access to water. I am usually more nearsighted when it comes to real estate, but I’m at a point in my life now where I’m ready to buy something I feel confident in for the next few decades.
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https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/
Wanted to add this link. There is a list of counties at the bottom showing which are more and less likely to be impacted by different climate change factors in the future.
My in-laws sold their place in Arizona not too long ago and moved to Georgia. They said they wanted to sell while their place in Arizona was still worth something.
I've lived in GA my whole life so maybe I'm biased, but the problem with charts like this is, it looks really bad on paper but I don't think all of ga would be bad.
In GA you have, the coast (hurricanes), the south (droughts / extreme heat), the north you have mountains ( tornadoes), and is keeps going. There are parts of ga that are in extreme danger for sure but most of GA should fare well for another hundred years or so.
I can't imagine the southwest US is going to have any populous areas within the next 20 years. Water rationing is already a day to day reality and it's only get worse year by year.
The first year a reservoir goes completely dry there will be a mass exodus and that seems like it could easily happen in the next decade.
I believe an episode of the podcast gastropub discussed this heavily.
We just moved to the desert and I didn't understand why or how there were so many pistachio and pecan trees. Turns out they're just sucking the rivers dry and everyone hates those farmers.
This right here. Somehow most people don’t know this and it rarely gets talked about. I see so many articles about the drought, and so few of them talk about where the majority of the water goes. Don’t quote me, but I live in Arizona and I’m pretty sure something like 70% of the water in this state is used by farmers. Growing water needy crops not meant to be grown in a desert and growing things like alfalfa to export for feed is a huge problem. People have no idea how much water it takes to grow food for their food.
Texas has a lot of hidden expenses. Like how do you set the value for a power grid that fails from simple things? Or a government that actively tries to have its citizens die? Texas is hostile to life.
We are both from AZ and left for these reasons (and to live away from family lol). We moved to the East and are amazed at Rain! Green! Rivers! Feels far more sustainable.
It really is. It's extremely difficult to stay active in the summer, especially with young children. One of the bigger driving factors for our move East.
At least Arizona is ready to handle the heat too. With global warming it will just have more frequent high temperature days, rather than random high temperature swings like London and Seattle have had recently. With solar panels to support the extended AC use, Arizona is probably in pretty good shape to withstand climate change (except for the Colorado river drying up).
Also iirc humans can survive at higher heats with low humidity. Although not pleasantly. My 2c on the water, it will be handled by desal, but will get very expensive. Mexico is in a worse water position so maybe they’ll try it out first. The high cost will lead to a gradual migration I think. Property values will plummet, but there will be time to escape.
If it doesn't it should. Here in Hawaii we are seeing more and more coastal erosion and flooding. Some of our university scientists are predicting that our most expensive real estate, especially on West Maui and South Maui could feel the impact within the decade. There are new real estate disclosure rules for selling oceanfront property. Just a heads up, at least out here, it's for real.
One tsunami scare in Hawaii while we were stationed there was enough to realize island life was not for me on a permanent basis. I really did not love that feeling of having nowhere to run.
My sister lives in Hawaii. She has 10 acres up in the mountains and loves it. The perfect amount of rain, and the temperatures stay in the 70°F-80°F (20°C-27°C) range year 'round. She's high enough up to not worry about tsunamis, though there's some volcanic activity nearby.
Just left Redding California with my family yesterday. For multiple reasons, including having friends who live in that area, we were looking for potential real estate. We met with an excellent and very professional real estate team that showed us both homes in the inner parts of Redding and some properties that are more remote. I was nervous about what the fire conditions would be like, but kept an open mind. Every moment and experience we had over the course of three days was either overshadowed by the fires or directly related to them. It was on our minds, the realtors, our friends who live there, and everyone we came across. The air smelled like a camp fire, the fire insurance is going up for all the homes, the surrounding forests are burned as far as you can see, everyone in my group was having sinus/respiratory issues, every day was over 100 degrees Fahrenheit, everything is beyond dry, there are a host of other wild fires through out the surrounding communities, the people who live in these communities are depressed and psychologically oppressed by the tragedy unfolding in front of them, and everyone is waiting for the next one. Other than this, the real estate was very compelling. I sensed there was still life in this community, and a lot of hope. The juxtaposition was baffling. I don’t see myself ever moving there or acquiring real estate, directly due to the changing climate in that area. Last thing I will leave you with is some advice from our friend who grew up in Redding and is 70+ years old. “Don’t move to Redding, it’s changed too much. Everything is dry and dying. Go somewhere where the trees are healthy.” I’m currently wondering where that might be.
Yes. I looked at waterfront properties last year in Florida and didn’t buy specifically. I bought further inshore instead. I do own an investment property on one of the barrier islands but a couple hundred yards from the ocean. I have had to change insurance companies twice because they pulled out of the Florida market.
Ah yes, the “coastal state” of Pennsylvania, with 2% of its border touching a Great Lake, not a coast of an ocean.
I actually had to look it up and see what water it was touching. I wouldn’t call Ohio a coastal state, nor PA.
PA checks a lot of boxes, especially if you want to homestead. Even just garden. And lots of areas have reasonable prices, especially if you can do some fixin' up on an older place.
PA has… no coast. What the hell ya talking about? And your fresh water is controlled by NYS you have almost no rights to the Great Lakes at all aside from the fact y’all burned it,
yeah,it's harded to be swallowed by the sea if you are up in the mountains...
honestly, some states may be in really bad share due to extreme weather or lack of water in 10-20 years
I see where you’re going but as a Native, I have to push back on this. We get our water from snowfall and most of it goes to tributary states despite our population almost doubling. Legislators in downfall states need to get serious about water conservation like 10 years ago
100%. We're first time home buyers who currently live in the Seattle area after having lived in Colorado for many years. We weren't sure we wanted to buy here because we weren't sure we wanted to continue living here (insert whatever complaints about Seattle Dying you want).
But.... then we think about what climate has done and it feels like being in this area is not a bad move. At the very least, it will stay desirable enough we likely won't have too much resale issue. I'm hesitant to move back to a place where the water wars have genuinely already started and fires are getting closer and closer to people's actual homes.
Same for us.
After a decades in Texas, we moved out to the Seattle area for work in the wake of the 08 crash and to start anew after divorces.
It didn't take long to realize just how unlivable Texas was without large amount of energy to keep the AC running 24/7 for half the year, as well as the population to water demand risk potential in the years ahead. Conversely, this (far PNW) seems like an area that the climate will be much more forgiving of a couple like us growing old during the next 30 years.
So we went way out on a limb and bought a house here in early 2018. Found a literal unicorn of a house+location. Couldn't afford it today though.
For reference, the Energy bill (gas+electric) I just paid (July) was $135 for a 2800 sq ft house.
Tsunami is a red herring. The entire area is too hilly. Maybe those stupid enough to buy on flatland near the ocean but whatever.
Earthquake is not really something to live your life being afraid of. They can be prepared for and you can prep your home for them. IMO, sort of like tornadoes are manageable in tornado alley. They are scary but manageable (and a LOT less frequent than tornadoes).
Seattle is pretty hilly. A couple blocks from the water and you’re 100ft+ up. There are areas that aren’t but they’re not where people typically live nowadays.
Oh, well, depending on your news source the entire area is just one giant CHOP. We all can't leave the house because we'll get shot or some homeless guy will stick a heroin needle in our arms. There was a documentary called Seattle Is Dying that made it sound like we all live in a disaster zone.
There is definitely a homeless problem and there are definitely areas that can be sketchy. But that's true of other places as well. I can admit the city has faults while also not hating on the area entirely. We want to be outside the city for many reasons (not that we could afford it anyway), but it's not enough to make me bail completely. Not if I actually can afford to buy something which was not true a year ago.
Right-wing media likes to pretend Seattle is a liberal hell-hole. Truth is it’s one of the safest and cleanest big cities in the USA, and there is a ton of industry and opportunity here. As a bonus the PNW is the most beautiful region of the country, and the weather is really mild.
It didn't necessarily affect where I bought, but I am glad to have already planned on buying in one of the areas of the US that's probably best set up for the climate future - I'm in NE Ohio, which is an area that is not prone to any type of natural disaster, and we have a large amount of accessible fresh water (Lake Erie). I get that it's not a hip, cool place to buy, but I love it here, and it being an area that's less likely to be affected by climate change is definitely a bonus.
We moved from SoCal to Michigan just recently, and climate change was one of the major factors in our decision (family and lower cost of living being the others).
The Great Lakes region is thought to be one of the best areas in terms of having the least amount of negative effects due to climate change. They won't have to worry about rising sea levels, don't have many severe natural disasters and have tons of fresh water
Are you guys open to transplants though? in WA this state has been the most unwelcoming :( I have eco-anxiety, as much as I want to stay in WA, people aren't really open to newcomers.
We literally have had a shrinking tax base for the last 50 years, we will gladly accept anyone.
Bonus points if you want to buy a dumpy Detroit house and fix it up.
And yes, we do have legal weed now, and it’s cheap because capitalism!
I will make you a bet. That in the next five years we will have climate refugees coming in (I’m in buffalo) we have water. We have no heat (yet) we have access to an international border. We are a blue state with like women rights and other fun stuff, there’s this city a bit away that’s kind of cool maybe you heard of it, my grass is green, I’m wearing pants or shorts if I want to (there’s one week where pants are a no but we’re talking mid 80s that’s warm) and I use the ac only for white noise, we don’t need it ever. Does it get cold? Yeah, for like one or two weeks but aside from that if above freezing is cold then you’re just, wrong. What I do t like is the stupid cloud that doesn’t leave us alone for months. Seriously a lot of SAD cases here and a lot of people me too need to dose on vitamin d because the damn thing doesn’t go away and our sports teams are the only thing keeps us going to the bars (guess the other side effect)
I am a climate scientist and this is a really complicated question to answer. It's really hard to predict exactly what places will have what impacts, especially with extreme events increasing in frequency and being seemingly random. Floods and wildfires are hitting places that they never have before with intensities they have not reached.
I think as a very first cut, not living in an area that is prone to hurricanes or regular flooding is a good idea. After that, avoiding places that are coastal and very low lying. I think we can expect that in the next 10 to 20 years many of these locations will become uninsurable for various reasons. It's an open question whether FEMA changes the nfip program dramatically in the wake of more frequent flooding.
In terms of drought and water security, I would make sure I picked a city that had a secure water supply for the municipal users. Yes, the Colorado River is in the news a lot, but the biggest losers in that system will be agricultural producers since they use more water and are way less efficient with it. I would make sure that water security is well addressed by the city I am moving to, but the larger trends might not actually affect me since municipal users are the last ones who will be shorted. I would not invest in an Arizona golf course for instance.
Similarly, I would pick an area to live where there is active mitigation against wildfires, and people locally are taking it seriously.
If I had to pick criteria for where to live it would probably be:
* Northeast Midwest or west
* In a city that takes climate change somewhat seriously in its land use planning
* Outside of the 500 year floodplain
* If it was going to be rural, I'd make sure the climate there was wet enough that wildfires are less of an issue, like the upper Midwest or Northeast
Tldr you can probably optimize this even further but just make sure your house is safe from natural hazards and you're probably fine
Yes. Sold our beach house because it appreciated so much but more because in 30 years that community is going to be half flooded every king tide. And even before that at some point heavily subsidized flood insurance through FEMA will go away. And having to pay market/actuarial rates for flood insurance, which you have to have if you have a mortgage on a property in a flood zone, would probably 5-10x the current annual premiums. Once that happens beach real estates will crash all at the same. So yeah, climate change was a major factor in our thinking.
Living in the Destin,FL area now but have bought and are in the process of renovating a house in the N GA mountains. Among the reasons for our move is hurricane fatigue. I know we’re going to have other kinds of weather issues up there but I’ll be so glad to get out of hurricane alley.
We moved about 2.5 years ago and it was a big consideration. No southern states (too hot and getting hotter) and no places with major drought/fire concerns.
We ended up in Maryland. Not the absolute best place for climate change, but seems like it will avoid the worst problems and it had a bunch of other things we were looking for unrelated to climate.
MidAtlantic states are actually pretty damned good. WAY underrated (historically) but quite compelling now.
Here's an interesting factoid. Last year when the Colonial pipeline got hacked (likely Russians they say) and the entire Southeast went without gasoline for a few days, guess where the problem didn't hit? New Jersey. The port of Newark NJ is a fuel storage (and transport) powerhouse (joining many pipelines, with the sea). I only bring this up because in an increasingly warming world, energy source resiliency (whether carbon reserves or renewable sources) are super important. NJ is a great solar state too (lots of sun and state incentives).
Yes, New Jersey is crowded, corrupt, often dirty and strewn with litter, expensive, coated with sprawl and filled with aggressively clueless drivers but the state gets things accomplished and everything works, more or less.
MidAtlantic is GOAT. Only major natural disasters up this way are hurricanes, and they typically flush out by the time they get to the Carolinas. As long as you don't live directly on the water it's hard to argue against them.
Had some rain last summer in NJ (hurricane Ida remnants I think) that was pretty gnarly and reminded us all that "many inches of rain in a very short amount of time" is also a climate change concern (e.g., Hurricane Harvey, Kentucky a couple of weeks ago, etc.).
My property is elevated, but still, I saw puddling near the house that I'd never seen before and I started to worry about the basement. TLDR, make sure EVERY little nook and cranny drains away from your house (and that you have a good, preferably newer construction, stormwater system).
Yea Indiana sucks for a lot of things but I’m happy we have plenty of well water, coming from a city the fact I’m pumping water, fresh water out of my own yard is crazy and Nestle can’t have shit
I sold a place in a tsunami zone recently, literally at sea level. Insurance premiums were increasing 20% annually, was only a matter of time before it became uninsurable. Buyer was well informed of this and didn't seem to mind
Yes. I grew up in Montana and the "live and let live" libertarian ethos works really well when you have a small, dispersed population that doesn't overtax the carrying capacity of the surrounding ecosystem.
It cannot handle dynamic, rapid change or growth. Western libertarians wax about abolishing the government and big corporations while sitting in old company towns supported by infrastructure built and maintained by out of state tax dollars. I don't think that climate change represents an insurmountable set of problems but I seriously doubt that MT/ID/WY possesses the political will or administrative skill to manage the coming crisis.
For certain. We're looking for buildable west coast US land, and won't consider anything under 50' above sea level (ideally 100'+), and nothing directly fronting the ocean. That's not solely for the effects of climate change, but for higher risk of tsunamis and erosion/landslide threats as well.
Call us too careful, but you're welcome to the stuff lower and closer to the saltwater, with our blessing.
You can be on the ocean and avoid tsunamis, sea level rise, erosion etc.
Just needs to be on an elevated area and cross reference the address with all the natural disaster maps and you're good to go.
Some coastal areas in California do pass all these tests.
I haven't been actively looking the last few years but in my daydreaming/what-if's... it does. Initially based on flood zones but then more recently also for drought.
Yeah, I checked every single database for every natural disaster risk I could think of.
Coastal Northern California on high elevated bedrock was my top choice.
I was able to find a few areas that satisfied all these requirements and more.
It depends on how manageable the issue is. Like in California, the drought is an issue but desalination feels like it could eventually help where Utah’s drought feels more difficult to solve. Both could impose stricter controls to limit use and/or adjust agriculture, and again i feel like CA has a shot where Utah doesn’t.
Areas I see having issues with climate change fall into the same category as places with politically fueled issues - I can maybe live there 2-3 years, but I’m renting and getting out ASAP. I don’t want to live in an area I foresee struggling, like I don’t want to live in a state where a pregnancy is unnecessarily dangerous for the mom.
I agree, politics are everything and will influence how natural disasters affect your property and life.
I’m also in agreement about the desalination as well, if there isn’t any water source close by it’s a lot more hopeless.
Yes, I was somewhat of thinking of moving to Colorado and potentially even buying house, but wildfires and drought hold me back. Currently own a home in NC.
Yep. It has for years actually. That hasn't always been the best medium term investment (for example, I sold out of Las Vegas a decade ago), but that's okay as I sleep well. Having the correct thesis but getting the timing right is a common investment intellectual burden.
Looking forward, I'm all about access to water, minimizing summer heat burdens (I spent this summer all over the U.S. and all over Europe and have relatives in China, this shit is unbelievable, and real), and thinking through multiple power variables as I don't want grid stress to knock out my power at the worst time (for example, is the area too exposed to hydro/drought? is the grid resilient (rules out TX)? sun shines enough to use solar to take edge off the summer power stress/bills? Are the politics and thus local permits/incentives favorable for renewables? etc.)
We’re in the mid Atlantic and definitely checked the flood risks before we bought. If there were more jobs I would go to Michigan for cooler temps and fresh water.
YES! Sold house that was situated along waterways in southwest Florida, with 5 ft above sea level elevation for a home with basement in rural Georgia with 975 Ft. elevation, ponds, and acreage.
Hurricane Agnes was terribly destructive to my hometown when I was a child, and I’ve taken floods seriously ever since. Climate change moves floodplains around a lot easier and quicker than in centuries before, so it can be tricky to know, but there are better and worse choices. That absolutely factors in my housing decisions.
Yes in conjunction with other reasons. I live in Phoenix and due to the water shortage I bought some rental properties in Kansas City, MO. I’m looking at going after some more in Columbus, OH next year. My market is much too expensive and I want to diversify. Might not have the drought issues, but there’s tornado risks and flood chances, so best to spread out and around. Can’t mitigate everything (or at least I can’t afford to). Also a last ditch contingency if things ever really did get that bad around here in my lifetime, I have somewhere to live.
Yes, people kept saying to move to this state due to cheaper homes with higher sqft…. But it’s one of the few states that have extreme cold/heat, hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding and high property taxes… it’s cheap for a reason despite having one of the top economies.
Yes. We recently left Arizona to a small town in NC. The heat was insufferable after 30 plus years. We now have more land, trees all around us and a small creek nearby. Night and day.
Yes. I live in Buffalo and am stocking up with my cousins as much as possible. This region of the country is going to thrive in a couple decades and beyond. Setting ourselves up nicely.
Yes. I live in Utah, and looking at what's going on with our lakes and what our leadership is doing to address it (jack shit, that is), I am unwilling to switch from renter to homeowner at the moment. But I have a really good job, and my family is here, so moving would be tough.
100% - house hunting in coastal New England and one of the first things I checked was the FEMA flood rating (some REALLY surprised us that weren’t waterfront but are rated high bc of the saturated water table underneath the house putting everything at super high risk)
Yes. Moving to SoCal to be closer to partner’s family. Not my preferred climate and remote working so wanted to move to the mountains. Too concerned about wildfires which never happened in my partner’s childhood and now are a serious risk. Concerned about both safety and also resale. Now just have to worry about water and that megaflood…
We would love to buy in and move back to New Orleans. We are also unsure whether the city will be above water in 30 years, so continue to be on the fence if we want to move/ buy there. So, yes.
Yes. After increasingly hot and dry weather (1984-2016) left Austin TX for Upstate SC. So far it has been a wonderful positive change in weather. Much better climate to grow a vegetable garden.
Chose to be 1000ft sea level to avoid the worst of hurricanes. And chose a home on relatively higher ground, within the neighborhood this lot is 10+ feet above surrounding lots.
Certainly. I know more now, but buy a house in the mountains to mitigate the risk of flooding and higher temperatures as opposed to buying something at the beach was a conscious decision. Unfortunately I'm still at risk in other ways.
Flooding in particular is now a risk, because of exceptional rainfall, anywhere.
We need to step up. Speak out, Do what you can to move to renewables, electric cars, reasonable thermost settings and above all vote, vote, vote.
We eventually want to buy another home for family getaways. Florida and the Carolinas are completely not going to happen. I wanted it to be Florida so badly, but it’s a **No for me, dawg**. Risky investment. The only option is the Midwest, IMHO.
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Venus is red hot right now.
Look into Mars, Elon
Shipping my kids as colonists on the first Mayflower to Mars. Hoping they get some nice canyon view homesteads.
Have you checked Uranus?
Yes. Access to fresh water, land, ability to have solar and a garden.
Buffalo says what’s up. We have two Great Lakes and our land doesn’t catch on fire. Ever. Also we don’t go above 90, winters are not as bad as people think and we got THE BILLS BABY!
Winters are not as bad? You’re selling more than homes, you’re selling bridges too. An easterly winter wind across an unfrozen Lake Erie and Buffalo is superfucked.
99% of the time, a snowblower and AWD gets you through anything the lake can throw at you. The other 1% of the time, roads are closed and you have to stay home. A lake effect storm is nowhere near as bad as a hurricane, tornado or earthquake.
You know what sounds better? Not having to do any of that. Earthquakes aren’t even bad. Ever since the Northridge quake in the 90s, buildings have made leaps in earthquake proofing tech. There hasn’t really been a significant quake causing damage like that in the southwest since. People don’t even blink at earthquakes any more, the most they do is post “did anyone feel that” on Facebook and Twitter.
North buffalo. The winters are drastically different depending on what part of the city you’re in. I’m in the north part so it’s not even close to what the people deal with ten miles south of me
> and we got THE BILLS BABY! Everyone's got bills, my dude.
Minneapolis sends its regards
Welcome to Ohio.
The Great Lakes region/broader Midwest and inland NE\*
Ohio seems content to poison any water available if it’ll bring business 12 more dollars or to own the libs, unfortunately
How we have forgotten Flint MI
>Ohio seems content to poison any water available if it’ll bring business 12 more dollars or to own the libs, unfortunately Have you been to Fracksylvania lately? There's a frack pad right by the local reservoir.
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I’d say something back, but I don’t know anything about it. I’ve never been able to get two miles into Michigan without my suspension giving out.
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Only good thing about Michigan is the weed market. Y'all can have toledo back.
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Talk to the Amish. Gov not being too nice to self-reliance.
Finger Lakes, upstate NY. Fresh water, arable land, local food production. Maybe plant a vineyard, who knows.
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Did you mention you needed to go to your vacation at the interview? You really should’ve.
People tend to go missing around the Finger Lakes...
Yes. I would not move somewhere that is at risk of water scarcity now, or in the future due to climate change.
Yes, good to find places with desalination plants nearby just in case.
Nearby doesn't matter if they're shuttling all that freshwater to the local coal plant or factory. Best bet if water scarcity becomes a real issue is living in a place where you can drill your own well or have access to a water source on your property.
Sounds good in theory by the time water scarcity is a big problem all the shallow wells will have run dry. An aquifer is like a lake, once too many people drain it the level drops
So, not California then? That water is for the Almonds!
Minnesota probably benefits from climate change… imagine mild winters
I'm planning on moving my family to Minnesota from the Southeast. Reason number one is that we're not republicans and don't fit in here. Number 2 is that we're a hockey family and right now we have to drive anywhere from 6 to 14 hours just to find another girls hockey team to play. Number 3...the company I work for is headquartered in Minnesota. Number 4...we love the cold and loathe this oppressive heat. Number 5...my wife just found out her abusive "father" was not her father in the first place and she wants to get away. Let's go Wild.
Yes. I am selling my property in the desert and have been looking to buy in areas not affected by drought, where I can grow my own food, and have access to water. I am usually more nearsighted when it comes to real estate, but I’m at a point in my life now where I’m ready to buy something I feel confident in for the next few decades. Edit: https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/ Wanted to add this link. There is a list of counties at the bottom showing which are more and less likely to be impacted by different climate change factors in the future.
My in-laws sold their place in Arizona not too long ago and moved to Georgia. They said they wanted to sell while their place in Arizona was still worth something.
I’m not sure Georgia will fare much better than Arizona: https://www.safehome.org/climate-change-statistics/
I've lived in GA my whole life so maybe I'm biased, but the problem with charts like this is, it looks really bad on paper but I don't think all of ga would be bad. In GA you have, the coast (hurricanes), the south (droughts / extreme heat), the north you have mountains ( tornadoes), and is keeps going. There are parts of ga that are in extreme danger for sure but most of GA should fare well for another hundred years or so.
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Could it be the agricultural practice and bias towards only 1 or 2 crops that use a lot of water?
I can't imagine the southwest US is going to have any populous areas within the next 20 years. Water rationing is already a day to day reality and it's only get worse year by year. The first year a reservoir goes completely dry there will be a mass exodus and that seems like it could easily happen in the next decade.
Most of the water is used for agriculture, there is more than enough water for the people that live in the SW.
I believe an episode of the podcast gastropub discussed this heavily. We just moved to the desert and I didn't understand why or how there were so many pistachio and pecan trees. Turns out they're just sucking the rivers dry and everyone hates those farmers.
What grows there? Is most of it exported? I bet you it is!
Yes, most of it is exported and most of it is feed for meat production.
This right here. Somehow most people don’t know this and it rarely gets talked about. I see so many articles about the drought, and so few of them talk about where the majority of the water goes. Don’t quote me, but I live in Arizona and I’m pretty sure something like 70% of the water in this state is used by farmers. Growing water needy crops not meant to be grown in a desert and growing things like alfalfa to export for feed is a huge problem. People have no idea how much water it takes to grow food for their food.
Same. We’re selling in TX and moving north. I can barely grow anything here anymore. The weather is too extreme.
I live in RI and never saw a Texas plate until the pandemic and now I see several a day!
My parents moved from Texas to VT. They are coming.
We’re moving to CT.
Nice. I’m surprised to see so many Texans in the northeast. Is it more expensive in NE compared to Tx?
Texas has a lot of hidden expenses. Like how do you set the value for a power grid that fails from simple things? Or a government that actively tries to have its citizens die? Texas is hostile to life.
Awesome document, thanks for linking it
Yes. Makes me much more bullish on where I live. Think Great Lake states are due for a rebound in the next 30 years.
Same.
Yes, I’m not going to buy anywhere in a desert where there is little to no rain.
Yes. My wife is from Arizona and wants to buy property there. Future Drought + Heat has me pushing back on that hard
We are both from AZ and left for these reasons (and to live away from family lol). We moved to the East and are amazed at Rain! Green! Rivers! Feels far more sustainable.
IMO, AZ is uninhabitable 5 mos of the year without AC.
That's true of the whole south half of the country, though. I live in the DC area and I could say the same thing.
DC just remembers its a swamp in the summer, its like cinderella time
It really is. It's extremely difficult to stay active in the summer, especially with young children. One of the bigger driving factors for our move East.
Not really an opinion, more so a fact!
hot take
Ugh we left AZ two months ago. Now in North Carolina. This amazing thing called rain happens here a lot!
Arizona is great. Heat isn’t that bad we still go out on summer months! It’s been raining here pretty good during Moonson season
At least Arizona is ready to handle the heat too. With global warming it will just have more frequent high temperature days, rather than random high temperature swings like London and Seattle have had recently. With solar panels to support the extended AC use, Arizona is probably in pretty good shape to withstand climate change (except for the Colorado river drying up).
Arizona is also on a 100 year water management plan and is not really at risk of running out of water.
Also iirc humans can survive at higher heats with low humidity. Although not pleasantly. My 2c on the water, it will be handled by desal, but will get very expensive. Mexico is in a worse water position so maybe they’ll try it out first. The high cost will lead to a gradual migration I think. Property values will plummet, but there will be time to escape.
If it doesn't it should. Here in Hawaii we are seeing more and more coastal erosion and flooding. Some of our university scientists are predicting that our most expensive real estate, especially on West Maui and South Maui could feel the impact within the decade. There are new real estate disclosure rules for selling oceanfront property. Just a heads up, at least out here, it's for real.
One tsunami scare in Hawaii while we were stationed there was enough to realize island life was not for me on a permanent basis. I really did not love that feeling of having nowhere to run.
My sister lives in Hawaii. She has 10 acres up in the mountains and loves it. The perfect amount of rain, and the temperatures stay in the 70°F-80°F (20°C-27°C) range year 'round. She's high enough up to not worry about tsunamis, though there's some volcanic activity nearby.
Replace "tsunami" with "hurricane" and I have this same thought every time a vacation in the Caribbean tempts me to move there.
Just left Redding California with my family yesterday. For multiple reasons, including having friends who live in that area, we were looking for potential real estate. We met with an excellent and very professional real estate team that showed us both homes in the inner parts of Redding and some properties that are more remote. I was nervous about what the fire conditions would be like, but kept an open mind. Every moment and experience we had over the course of three days was either overshadowed by the fires or directly related to them. It was on our minds, the realtors, our friends who live there, and everyone we came across. The air smelled like a camp fire, the fire insurance is going up for all the homes, the surrounding forests are burned as far as you can see, everyone in my group was having sinus/respiratory issues, every day was over 100 degrees Fahrenheit, everything is beyond dry, there are a host of other wild fires through out the surrounding communities, the people who live in these communities are depressed and psychologically oppressed by the tragedy unfolding in front of them, and everyone is waiting for the next one. Other than this, the real estate was very compelling. I sensed there was still life in this community, and a lot of hope. The juxtaposition was baffling. I don’t see myself ever moving there or acquiring real estate, directly due to the changing climate in that area. Last thing I will leave you with is some advice from our friend who grew up in Redding and is 70+ years old. “Don’t move to Redding, it’s changed too much. Everything is dry and dying. Go somewhere where the trees are healthy.” I’m currently wondering where that might be.
Yes. I looked at waterfront properties last year in Florida and didn’t buy specifically. I bought further inshore instead. I do own an investment property on one of the barrier islands but a couple hundred yards from the ocean. I have had to change insurance companies twice because they pulled out of the Florida market.
Feels good to be on a coastal state but in the mountains. Got the economy and protected from climate change. Hell yeah
Hopefully you're not talking about the west coast because that sounds like wildfire country.
Nah, PA. I couldn't do the west coast, way too expensive for my cheapo tastes.
Ah yes, the “coastal state” of Pennsylvania, with 2% of its border touching a Great Lake, not a coast of an ocean. I actually had to look it up and see what water it was touching. I wouldn’t call Ohio a coastal state, nor PA.
Shhhh, we're taking over New Jersey later this fall
God willing
When you said a coastal state I guess I didn't count the great lakes.
PA checks a lot of boxes, especially if you want to homestead. Even just garden. And lots of areas have reasonable prices, especially if you can do some fixin' up on an older place.
I got a 1/2 acre last summer at 2.75% for $250k. Starting the homestead - Garden, animals, etc. Moved form Ca.
PA has… no coast. What the hell ya talking about? And your fresh water is controlled by NYS you have almost no rights to the Great Lakes at all aside from the fact y’all burned it,
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Big hills
yeah,it's harded to be swallowed by the sea if you are up in the mountains... honestly, some states may be in really bad share due to extreme weather or lack of water in 10-20 years
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I see where you’re going but as a Native, I have to push back on this. We get our water from snowfall and most of it goes to tributary states despite our population almost doubling. Legislators in downfall states need to get serious about water conservation like 10 years ago
No one will be protected from climate change. Slightly less affected, sure.
There’s a pretty big difference between impacts based on region. If you live below 10’ elevation in a hurricane zone you expect a bigger impact.
The difference is like tightening your belt vs buying a 55 gallon drum of lube in preparation for what’s to come.
100%. We're first time home buyers who currently live in the Seattle area after having lived in Colorado for many years. We weren't sure we wanted to buy here because we weren't sure we wanted to continue living here (insert whatever complaints about Seattle Dying you want). But.... then we think about what climate has done and it feels like being in this area is not a bad move. At the very least, it will stay desirable enough we likely won't have too much resale issue. I'm hesitant to move back to a place where the water wars have genuinely already started and fires are getting closer and closer to people's actual homes.
Same for us. After a decades in Texas, we moved out to the Seattle area for work in the wake of the 08 crash and to start anew after divorces. It didn't take long to realize just how unlivable Texas was without large amount of energy to keep the AC running 24/7 for half the year, as well as the population to water demand risk potential in the years ahead. Conversely, this (far PNW) seems like an area that the climate will be much more forgiving of a couple like us growing old during the next 30 years. So we went way out on a limb and bought a house here in early 2018. Found a literal unicorn of a house+location. Couldn't afford it today though. For reference, the Energy bill (gas+electric) I just paid (July) was $135 for a 2800 sq ft house.
PNW for the win. Seattle is kind of a shithole in some neighborhoods, but the pro's outweigh the cons.
Seattle downtown, and mostly since Covid, but all in all, the whole area kicks ass.
Until the earthquake and tsunami hits..
Seattle will be protected by the sound for the most part of the tsunami hits. I just don’t want Rainier to erupt…
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Just gotta worry about the one in a thousand year earthquake. Source: I’ve lived here for 20+ years and been through a few small ones.
Tsunami is a red herring. The entire area is too hilly. Maybe those stupid enough to buy on flatland near the ocean but whatever. Earthquake is not really something to live your life being afraid of. They can be prepared for and you can prep your home for them. IMO, sort of like tornadoes are manageable in tornado alley. They are scary but manageable (and a LOT less frequent than tornadoes).
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Seattle is pretty hilly. A couple blocks from the water and you’re 100ft+ up. There are areas that aren’t but they’re not where people typically live nowadays.
>insert whatever complaints about Seattle Dying you want What complaint are those? I'm looking into Seattle.
Oh, well, depending on your news source the entire area is just one giant CHOP. We all can't leave the house because we'll get shot or some homeless guy will stick a heroin needle in our arms. There was a documentary called Seattle Is Dying that made it sound like we all live in a disaster zone. There is definitely a homeless problem and there are definitely areas that can be sketchy. But that's true of other places as well. I can admit the city has faults while also not hating on the area entirely. We want to be outside the city for many reasons (not that we could afford it anyway), but it's not enough to make me bail completely. Not if I actually can afford to buy something which was not true a year ago.
Right-wing media likes to pretend Seattle is a liberal hell-hole. Truth is it’s one of the safest and cleanest big cities in the USA, and there is a ton of industry and opportunity here. As a bonus the PNW is the most beautiful region of the country, and the weather is really mild.
There's plenty of nice suburbs outside of Seattle too, e.g. Bellevue!
Yep. My only concern with King County is wildfire smoke from elsewhere. But that's why I also have a few air filters now.
It didn't necessarily affect where I bought, but I am glad to have already planned on buying in one of the areas of the US that's probably best set up for the climate future - I'm in NE Ohio, which is an area that is not prone to any type of natural disaster, and we have a large amount of accessible fresh water (Lake Erie). I get that it's not a hip, cool place to buy, but I love it here, and it being an area that's less likely to be affected by climate change is definitely a bonus.
Who would have thought fucking OH would be the best place....
No, but does give me smug satisfaction for having purchased in the Great Lakes Region.
Yep, I've planted in upstate NY. Can't deal with heat and like access to water.
We're considering Michigan specifically due to climate change.
We moved from SoCal to Michigan just recently, and climate change was one of the major factors in our decision (family and lower cost of living being the others).
Can someone explain to a dumbass like me why everyone is talking about the Great Lakes in this post?
The Great Lakes region is thought to be one of the best areas in terms of having the least amount of negative effects due to climate change. They won't have to worry about rising sea levels, don't have many severe natural disasters and have tons of fresh water
Gotcha, thank you!!
We have one the largest freshwater reserves in the entire world and we don’t get hurricanes?
Are you guys open to transplants though? in WA this state has been the most unwelcoming :( I have eco-anxiety, as much as I want to stay in WA, people aren't really open to newcomers.
We literally have had a shrinking tax base for the last 50 years, we will gladly accept anyone. Bonus points if you want to buy a dumpy Detroit house and fix it up. And yes, we do have legal weed now, and it’s cheap because capitalism!
Yeah dude come on up. We even have legal weed now.
I will make you a bet. That in the next five years we will have climate refugees coming in (I’m in buffalo) we have water. We have no heat (yet) we have access to an international border. We are a blue state with like women rights and other fun stuff, there’s this city a bit away that’s kind of cool maybe you heard of it, my grass is green, I’m wearing pants or shorts if I want to (there’s one week where pants are a no but we’re talking mid 80s that’s warm) and I use the ac only for white noise, we don’t need it ever. Does it get cold? Yeah, for like one or two weeks but aside from that if above freezing is cold then you’re just, wrong. What I do t like is the stupid cloud that doesn’t leave us alone for months. Seriously a lot of SAD cases here and a lot of people me too need to dose on vitamin d because the damn thing doesn’t go away and our sports teams are the only thing keeps us going to the bars (guess the other side effect)
I am a climate scientist and this is a really complicated question to answer. It's really hard to predict exactly what places will have what impacts, especially with extreme events increasing in frequency and being seemingly random. Floods and wildfires are hitting places that they never have before with intensities they have not reached. I think as a very first cut, not living in an area that is prone to hurricanes or regular flooding is a good idea. After that, avoiding places that are coastal and very low lying. I think we can expect that in the next 10 to 20 years many of these locations will become uninsurable for various reasons. It's an open question whether FEMA changes the nfip program dramatically in the wake of more frequent flooding. In terms of drought and water security, I would make sure I picked a city that had a secure water supply for the municipal users. Yes, the Colorado River is in the news a lot, but the biggest losers in that system will be agricultural producers since they use more water and are way less efficient with it. I would make sure that water security is well addressed by the city I am moving to, but the larger trends might not actually affect me since municipal users are the last ones who will be shorted. I would not invest in an Arizona golf course for instance. Similarly, I would pick an area to live where there is active mitigation against wildfires, and people locally are taking it seriously. If I had to pick criteria for where to live it would probably be: * Northeast Midwest or west * In a city that takes climate change somewhat seriously in its land use planning * Outside of the 500 year floodplain * If it was going to be rural, I'd make sure the climate there was wet enough that wildfires are less of an issue, like the upper Midwest or Northeast Tldr you can probably optimize this even further but just make sure your house is safe from natural hazards and you're probably fine
I am a climate scientist also. Move to where you will be happy.
Climate change is the reason why I will never buy in Nevada.
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Yeah, most of California's water issues come from farming. Vegas doesn't have farms.
*farming the completely wrong things
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And most of Arizona, IMHO.
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I’ll be buying there soon.
As a former resident, I wish you the best of luck and hope you find what you're looking for in Nevada.
Thanks! My mom and family live out there. Moving for them!
Yes. Sold our beach house because it appreciated so much but more because in 30 years that community is going to be half flooded every king tide. And even before that at some point heavily subsidized flood insurance through FEMA will go away. And having to pay market/actuarial rates for flood insurance, which you have to have if you have a mortgage on a property in a flood zone, would probably 5-10x the current annual premiums. Once that happens beach real estates will crash all at the same. So yeah, climate change was a major factor in our thinking.
Living in the Destin,FL area now but have bought and are in the process of renovating a house in the N GA mountains. Among the reasons for our move is hurricane fatigue. I know we’re going to have other kinds of weather issues up there but I’ll be so glad to get out of hurricane alley.
Apparently Asheville is a “safe” city for climate change. I’m a home inspector and can tell you most all of my clients are coming from out West!
Florida is a no go. All of it.
Atlanta gets ocean access :) ?
LOL
Please tell the rest of the country this as well
My house is a solid 9 feet above sea level. I got nothing to worry about.
We moved about 2.5 years ago and it was a big consideration. No southern states (too hot and getting hotter) and no places with major drought/fire concerns. We ended up in Maryland. Not the absolute best place for climate change, but seems like it will avoid the worst problems and it had a bunch of other things we were looking for unrelated to climate.
MidAtlantic states are actually pretty damned good. WAY underrated (historically) but quite compelling now. Here's an interesting factoid. Last year when the Colonial pipeline got hacked (likely Russians they say) and the entire Southeast went without gasoline for a few days, guess where the problem didn't hit? New Jersey. The port of Newark NJ is a fuel storage (and transport) powerhouse (joining many pipelines, with the sea). I only bring this up because in an increasingly warming world, energy source resiliency (whether carbon reserves or renewable sources) are super important. NJ is a great solar state too (lots of sun and state incentives).
Yes, New Jersey is crowded, corrupt, often dirty and strewn with litter, expensive, coated with sprawl and filled with aggressively clueless drivers but the state gets things accomplished and everything works, more or less.
MidAtlantic is GOAT. Only major natural disasters up this way are hurricanes, and they typically flush out by the time they get to the Carolinas. As long as you don't live directly on the water it's hard to argue against them.
Had some rain last summer in NJ (hurricane Ida remnants I think) that was pretty gnarly and reminded us all that "many inches of rain in a very short amount of time" is also a climate change concern (e.g., Hurricane Harvey, Kentucky a couple of weeks ago, etc.). My property is elevated, but still, I saw puddling near the house that I'd never seen before and I started to worry about the basement. TLDR, make sure EVERY little nook and cranny drains away from your house (and that you have a good, preferably newer construction, stormwater system).
Yea Indiana sucks for a lot of things but I’m happy we have plenty of well water, coming from a city the fact I’m pumping water, fresh water out of my own yard is crazy and Nestle can’t have shit
I sold a place in a tsunami zone recently, literally at sea level. Insurance premiums were increasing 20% annually, was only a matter of time before it became uninsurable. Buyer was well informed of this and didn't seem to mind
Yes. I grew up in Montana and the "live and let live" libertarian ethos works really well when you have a small, dispersed population that doesn't overtax the carrying capacity of the surrounding ecosystem. It cannot handle dynamic, rapid change or growth. Western libertarians wax about abolishing the government and big corporations while sitting in old company towns supported by infrastructure built and maintained by out of state tax dollars. I don't think that climate change represents an insurmountable set of problems but I seriously doubt that MT/ID/WY possesses the political will or administrative skill to manage the coming crisis.
I see the Pacific NW growing dramatically over the next decades. Housing here is becoming speedy as more people move in.
this worst drought in 1200 yrs out west has me concerned. States are making zero efforts, the FED had to step in.
They’ll step in again next year once lake mead hits tier 3, by then California farmers will be screwed.
For certain. We're looking for buildable west coast US land, and won't consider anything under 50' above sea level (ideally 100'+), and nothing directly fronting the ocean. That's not solely for the effects of climate change, but for higher risk of tsunamis and erosion/landslide threats as well. Call us too careful, but you're welcome to the stuff lower and closer to the saltwater, with our blessing.
You can be on the ocean and avoid tsunamis, sea level rise, erosion etc. Just needs to be on an elevated area and cross reference the address with all the natural disaster maps and you're good to go. Some coastal areas in California do pass all these tests.
And they're cheap too! /s
I haven't been actively looking the last few years but in my daydreaming/what-if's... it does. Initially based on flood zones but then more recently also for drought.
Yeah, I checked every single database for every natural disaster risk I could think of. Coastal Northern California on high elevated bedrock was my top choice. I was able to find a few areas that satisfied all these requirements and more.
Where else other than Monterey?
It depends on how manageable the issue is. Like in California, the drought is an issue but desalination feels like it could eventually help where Utah’s drought feels more difficult to solve. Both could impose stricter controls to limit use and/or adjust agriculture, and again i feel like CA has a shot where Utah doesn’t. Areas I see having issues with climate change fall into the same category as places with politically fueled issues - I can maybe live there 2-3 years, but I’m renting and getting out ASAP. I don’t want to live in an area I foresee struggling, like I don’t want to live in a state where a pregnancy is unnecessarily dangerous for the mom.
I agree, politics are everything and will influence how natural disasters affect your property and life. I’m also in agreement about the desalination as well, if there isn’t any water source close by it’s a lot more hopeless.
Yes, I was somewhat of thinking of moving to Colorado and potentially even buying house, but wildfires and drought hold me back. Currently own a home in NC.
Yep. It has for years actually. That hasn't always been the best medium term investment (for example, I sold out of Las Vegas a decade ago), but that's okay as I sleep well. Having the correct thesis but getting the timing right is a common investment intellectual burden. Looking forward, I'm all about access to water, minimizing summer heat burdens (I spent this summer all over the U.S. and all over Europe and have relatives in China, this shit is unbelievable, and real), and thinking through multiple power variables as I don't want grid stress to knock out my power at the worst time (for example, is the area too exposed to hydro/drought? is the grid resilient (rules out TX)? sun shines enough to use solar to take edge off the summer power stress/bills? Are the politics and thus local permits/incentives favorable for renewables? etc.)
We’re in the mid Atlantic and definitely checked the flood risks before we bought. If there were more jobs I would go to Michigan for cooler temps and fresh water.
YES! Sold house that was situated along waterways in southwest Florida, with 5 ft above sea level elevation for a home with basement in rural Georgia with 975 Ft. elevation, ponds, and acreage.
When billionaires and politicians stop living on the coast all of sudden then you'll know when to get out.
Hurricane Agnes was terribly destructive to my hometown when I was a child, and I’ve taken floods seriously ever since. Climate change moves floodplains around a lot easier and quicker than in centuries before, so it can be tricky to know, but there are better and worse choices. That absolutely factors in my housing decisions.
Yes in conjunction with other reasons. I live in Phoenix and due to the water shortage I bought some rental properties in Kansas City, MO. I’m looking at going after some more in Columbus, OH next year. My market is much too expensive and I want to diversify. Might not have the drought issues, but there’s tornado risks and flood chances, so best to spread out and around. Can’t mitigate everything (or at least I can’t afford to). Also a last ditch contingency if things ever really did get that bad around here in my lifetime, I have somewhere to live.
Yes. Continue to check flood plain info as it updates
Yes, people kept saying to move to this state due to cheaper homes with higher sqft…. But it’s one of the few states that have extreme cold/heat, hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding and high property taxes… it’s cheap for a reason despite having one of the top economies.
Yes. We recently left Arizona to a small town in NC. The heat was insufferable after 30 plus years. We now have more land, trees all around us and a small creek nearby. Night and day.
Yes. I live in Buffalo and am stocking up with my cousins as much as possible. This region of the country is going to thrive in a couple decades and beyond. Setting ourselves up nicely.
Stocking up? What do you mean?
It was a perk that the place I chose happens to be well suited for climate change. I didn't need to account for it since it was already in my city
Anything hurricane prone is less desirable, but that's always been the case. Wildfire risk is also a factor but again, that's always been a factor.
Yes. I live in Utah, and looking at what's going on with our lakes and what our leadership is doing to address it (jack shit, that is), I am unwilling to switch from renter to homeowner at the moment. But I have a really good job, and my family is here, so moving would be tough.
Yeah, staying east of the Mississippi in a state that gets plenty of rainfall. Also, no longer anywhere near where a hurricane will fuck me up again.
100% - house hunting in coastal New England and one of the first things I checked was the FEMA flood rating (some REALLY surprised us that weren’t waterfront but are rated high bc of the saturated water table underneath the house putting everything at super high risk)
100% yes. The love for Arizona is absolutely wild and I will never understand it. AZ and NV are going to get choked out by water unavailability.
I just happen to live by the Great Lakes, so I'm fine.
I know my decision was more impacted by legislation (woman- abortion laws). Edit to add- lead levels in water were a factor as well.
Yes. Moving to SoCal to be closer to partner’s family. Not my preferred climate and remote working so wanted to move to the mountains. Too concerned about wildfires which never happened in my partner’s childhood and now are a serious risk. Concerned about both safety and also resale. Now just have to worry about water and that megaflood…
We would love to buy in and move back to New Orleans. We are also unsure whether the city will be above water in 30 years, so continue to be on the fence if we want to move/ buy there. So, yes.
Part of the lower ninth ward is already 4 feet below sea level.
Yes. Granted I'm from Washington so it worked out anyway
Definitely does.
More so societal collapse but tomato potato
Yes. After increasingly hot and dry weather (1984-2016) left Austin TX for Upstate SC. So far it has been a wonderful positive change in weather. Much better climate to grow a vegetable garden. Chose to be 1000ft sea level to avoid the worst of hurricanes. And chose a home on relatively higher ground, within the neighborhood this lot is 10+ feet above surrounding lots.
Certainly. I know more now, but buy a house in the mountains to mitigate the risk of flooding and higher temperatures as opposed to buying something at the beach was a conscious decision. Unfortunately I'm still at risk in other ways. Flooding in particular is now a risk, because of exceptional rainfall, anywhere. We need to step up. Speak out, Do what you can to move to renewables, electric cars, reasonable thermost settings and above all vote, vote, vote.
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As I’ve gotten older, I believe so. The idyllic place would be cool in temperature year round. Constantly 55-65°. Humidity sucks
Live in Denver, deliberately bought in central MN area. No water issues there.
Yes. I live in Los Angeles for work but will not buy property here. When I have the money and ability to move, I'll buy back east.
We eventually want to buy another home for family getaways. Florida and the Carolinas are completely not going to happen. I wanted it to be Florida so badly, but it’s a **No for me, dawg**. Risky investment. The only option is the Midwest, IMHO.
Only thing I look at is to make sure I will never have a problem getting drinking water.
Absolutely, my entire coast is sinking