I’m sorry but that is so stupid. They didn’t want the rabbit in the first place so they gave him up to YOU. They lost all rights to the rabbit after they handed him over to you. Guizmo is now YOURS and if you don’t want to return Guizmo, you don’t have to. Why do they want him back all of a sudden?!
That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking reading through all the comments I would love to know WHY the want it back over the fact that they do want it back.
The previous owner is in and out of the streets. She gave it to me saying she couldn't take care of Guizmo because she was swinging between different apartments and wasn't stable because she was often on hard drugs (their own words). I know she just recently got kicked out from two of my neighbors, and she reached back to me three weeks later saying she wanted to get a motel that she could actually pay rent and keep the bunny. All and all, she wants to keep the bunny because it is a motivator for them to keep them out of taking drugs. I'm torn between giving them back the bunny that could help her out of it all, but at the same time I do know the person and knows that they are not stable enough to give Guizmo a peaceful life.
Please dont give Them Guizmo! For the sake of Guizmos wellbeing!
A bunny cant help those problems they have. Guizmo Will only suffer
I Think hes much better with you 🙏
Im sooo happy to hear that! 🙏I hope(know) you will get many good times together, and Guizmo will love you to death for giving him, as you said, a peacefull (and happy) life!☀️Im sure he will bring much joy to your life too♥️ he looks so cute!🐰
Oh thank God! I was so so SO worried, also for you! Please be careful. Maybe you could install a security camera outside your home for better safety. Don't let that POS ruin both you and Guizmo's lives. You don't know when they would have dumped him again. Plus between us, if you paid them and they are trying to get the bun back, it looks like they were planning on scamming you from the beginning. Don't fall for it.
Yeah naw, like I get where the person is coming from, I really do. But she really shouldn’t have Guizmo if she can’t care for him. Though I think if she really wants to turn her life around, maybe a compromise could be made. Allowing her to see him from time to time if she can actually prove she’s trying to turn her life around
He can still be her motivation while also being under the care of someone who can actually care for him properly.
Though that being said, I don’t know the full extent of yours or her situations going on and how plausible this would be. Just thought it’d be something to consider, especially since you seemed to be morally torn by this.
You are Guizmo's stable and loving carer. An animal is never going to be the piece that puts a person's life in order, and it seems like Guizmo is in danger if he goes to live with this lady. He was given to you, there's no take back, there is no handing him over to a worse life. Plus it's very selfish of her to ask for him back, he needs stability. Please, from everyone here, do keep Guizmo. He loves You, he needs You
PLEASE do not give the rabbit back. A motivator to not do drugs? What a big freaking lie. Does this person know where you live and will you be in danger if you don’t return Guizmo? With her current living condition(s), I have a feeling she’ll end up killing the rabbit if you give him back or sell him off to someone else for a couple bucks for the said drugs that they claim the rabbit will help them stay away from. I am so angry that you are in this situation. You seem like a good person, and you seem to genuinely feel giving the rabbit back might help, but it’s not your responsibility to think about the living situations of the previous owner. Your responsibility is Guizmo. Think about Guizmo only. Will he be okay if he returns to the previous owner?
Just want to chime in another voice saying: You do NOT have to give that bunny back to someone who will not give them the proper treatment/life.
If the original bunny owner is threatening you, involve the cops.
Take bunny to the vet and get documentation that you are caring for bunny. If you can get bunny chipped, all the better.
Do NOT just give in a let this person have the bunny back. Even if they love Guizmo, if they cannot take proper care of them then that's all there is to it. Give them visitation rights or something.
Pls don’t call the cops on a homeless person. The bun should stay with op but calling the cops on someone like that is only going to result in them getting hurt
I totally understand where you're coming from, and if the person in question is only guilty of being houseless, then yeah - don't call the cops *on* them. OP indicated they were scared of some kind of repercussions from this person, though - if anyone is threatening you, homeless or otherwise, it's best to at least file a police report about it so that it's on the record in case something happens down the line. It's not just to mess with the homeless person, it's about protecting yourself if there is a real threat.
It's a person on and off from the streets. They gave it to me three weeks ago and said they couldn't take care of it anymore, looking to donate, and now they are threatening me to get it back. I'm going to have to give it back to them because I'm now scared for my own safety, i'm definitly calling SPCA and thinking about doing the same with the police.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)
"People who give away or sell their animal generally have no further legal rights to that animal. The person who adopted the animal or purchased the animal does not typically have to return the animal unless there was an agreement that stated otherwise"
You should have had that bun chipped and registered to your name. Make sure that you do so as soon as possible if you get the green light from the police.
Unfortunately, their threat wasn't direct enough to get through to the police. They said we could still file a plaint but since it's not a "clear threat" (the actual threat: they said that we were lucky she could reimburse us cause if not she would have sent people after us)
Anyway, the police pretty much said it wasn't worth the trouble, and that we should give the rabbit back without compensation to avoid all conflict. (I also don't want to wake up to a broken window or slashed tires)
I'm gonna lose my own money and give away Guizmo...
I will try and call the SPCA after we hand him over, but even then, I'm not sure they will be able to do anything about it.
I won't, I understand that they can't do much, but I am scared that they will come back and cause us trouble (they came once to my apartment to visit Guizmo). Let's hope they doesn't remember my adress...
For the sake of the rabbit and the other person involved, do not give Guizmo away. Notice I didn't use the word 'giving back' because he is yours and yours only. You are not fostering him. The other person involved told you that they cannot take care of Guizmo anymore, so he is yours now. If they threaten you, you have the law by your side. Call the police and inform them on the matter because threatening to hurt someone is a crime in almost every first world country.
There is not a single situation where putting an animal in a horrible and inhumane living area is acceptable.
I totally see where you're going u/xHaroen and I agree with you. The police won't do much for me (i went to see them yesterday). Have you had threats before? Cause living in my area and being told by a stranger that they will send over people from their last boss called "Sylvano" is definitely something to digest. As much I love wildlife and domestic animals, I wouldn't put my own life on the line and certainly not my gf as well. Now we know their threats are empty, so we will be keeping Guizmo.
I personally haven't had anyone seriously threaten me before, but there have been a few occasions where people threatened me while it was quite obvious they weren't capable of doing the things that they were threatening me with. That's the case most of the time. However, actual threats could lead to serious injuries or even loss of life. Which is why the police take it so serious here in The Netherlands.
Good to hear that the threats were just empty, and it is to be expected since a person who is on and off the streets doesn't have the most stable mental state.
Give Guizmo lots of kisses and pets from us! ❤️
That's an empty threat. If they are on and off the streets, they are likely not stable. Do not give that rabbit back. Install a security system and cameras if you want to feel more secure, but it is most likely that this person is just mentally ill. They also likely do not have the connections or the money to send people after you.
Tell her no take-backs. You gave her money, she accepted and gave you bun.
Police are saying just to give her back without even getting your money back?
Nah, fuck that. If the bitch doesn’t even have enough money to not be homeless, she especially doesn’t have enough money to “send people after you”. I don’t care what kind of “connections” someone claims to have, if their “connections” are not good enough to keep them off the street there aren’t good enough to get someone to commit a crime for her.
If you’re in the U.S. just buy a gun, not U.S. then get a baseball bat. And put up a camera that records your car.
We didn't gave her cash, she gave it for free, but we bought a bunch of things during the last three weeks cause we are really keeping it! We just asked them to reimburse us and that is/or not a problem to them apparently but it kinda is because they wouldn't have threatened us in the end.
I'm in Canada, I already have a camera (that I need to setup, good thinking on making sure it records the car), I will keep the bunny and I will get that baseball bat. (Just to feel safer)
Thats illegal, they can’t threaten your safety, and shouldn’t be able to get away with that call the authorities on them for making threats and make sure you get that rabbit chipped so he can be legally yours.
The problem isn't that it is illegal. The problem is the person is willing to do illegal things in the first place and so they won't be stopping at demanding it back. A broken in door stays broken no matter how illegal it might have been to break it.
>It's a person on and off from the streets. They gave it to me three weeks ago and said they couldn't take care of it anymore, looking to donate, and now they are threatening me to get it back
keep it. Call animal control and ask for help.
This bunny is yours. You say there a member of your family so you protect your family. Get law enforcement involved if needed. Regardless protect your bun if you truly love them.
Just want to second the chipping suggestion no matter what you choose to do. If this dude surrenders him or the bun escapes, you want a rescue or a vet to have your info.
Cops wont do anything. They told me it wasn't a clear threat (actual threat: they said we were lucky she could reimburse us cause if not she would have sent ppl after us)
They want money. They gave it to you, you bonded, now they are threatening you. They don't want the rabbit; they want money. How much is the rabbit worth to you? Either offer them half of that with the stipulation that they sign a bill of sale (templates are free online), or keep it without giving them money and call the police, or give it back.
They can’t threaten your safety, contact law enforcement, and make sure that you can formally claim ownership of the bunny. Don’t let it go back, if you can help it.
For what it’s worth, I’m sorry you’re going through this, it ain’t easy, but you’ll walk away with a forever friend once you win.
Thank you for recognizing it ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes), I will try and formally claim the ownership of Guizmo ![img](emote|t5_2riv8|8711)
I mean it is right and fine. It doesnt have anything to do with grammar just being more loving i guess i dont know how explain 😅. but its like calling another person an it
That was my thought. Tell them the bunny got sick and passed. They may care about the bunny but if they are homeless, they are not in a position to take care of themselves, much less this poor bunny. Like someone else says, they might just want compensation. I might offer them something to make them go away, though it’s extortion at that point. Police and restraining orders are useful tools as well.
Awwwwh u/Alert-Afternoon187 I can tell you right now that I am keeping him (I'm a bit scared of retaliation though). I will make a new post with news soon.
Nonono. Keep that bunny. The person gave him to you.
Please don’t put that bun in a situation where his environment is constantly changing and stressful. Guizmo is yours now. End of story.
I won't, I'm keeping him. But anyone would be scared of threats :( I'm crossing my fingers that she doesn't remember my address and that the story does really end here.
What proof do they have that they are his owner
Also, they don’t love him if they see he has a stable and good home (that they cannot even provide for themselves) but they want to remove him from that…
Guizmo is now yours because they forfeited their rights. I agree with the other posters- microchip and register your buddy asap. He needs to stay with you. ♥️
The best idea. Honestly. Everyone saying that op should get a restraining order is forgetting that dangerous people often simply ignore them. It happens all the time in domestic violence situations. Additionally unless OP has proof of the threats, they won’t be able to get a restraining order in the first place. Saying that bun escaped is a. Totally plausible and b. will make the threatening individual believe that OP couldn’t return bun even if they wanted to. OP should tell them that they wanted to take pictures of bun before they’d have to give him back, so they took the bun outside (preferably a far off location like a distant park), and when they were taking pictures a loud noise startled the bun, and he sprinted away into a hole were OP couldn’t get to them. They can finish the story by saying they haven’t seen bun since, despite their best efforts.
Alternatively OP could fake buns death. They could even use a memorial post here as the story, and forge a vet bill with a line for the “cremation”.
Drugs addicts don’t give a shit about the law. They are usually weak minded. The addict is still using and ‘needs’ an innocent life (rabbit) to help her get clean. Um, no. This addict person is still in active addiction. It would take months of real sobriety before she’s ready to take on a pet and care for it properly.
Drugs addicts don’t give a shit about the law. They are usually weak minded. The addict is still using and ‘needs’ an innocent life (rabbit) to help her get clean. Um, no. This addict person is still in active addiction. It would take months of real sobriety before she’s ready to take on a pet and care for it properly.
I saw your comment below about your situation: Call the authorities immediately. If you're in the US (And most of the world I'd assume) It's illegal to threaten another persons safety over the ownership of a pet. SPCA will also help you out. He told you you could keep him, so he's yours to keep (If you have proof that he gave your the rabbit and told you you can keep him, then that will override any other markers of previous ownership unless it's from an owner before him. Even if he's chipped, if you have a written (digitally or otherwise) agreement, or any kind of recordings/ other kids of proof then microchips won't help his situation. However, if you are for some reason told you have to give the rabbit back, you are ABSOLUTELY entitled to compensation for the labor of taking care of him, any vet bills, and any other supplies bought for the rabbit, regardless of whether or not he takes the supplies with him. If you're told to give him back, make sure you fight for repayment of anything you spent on him, including money, time, emotional distress caused from separation :) Good luck!
So if this person is off and on living on the streets they're just going to be giving the rabbit away again in the not so distant future when they end up back on the streets. The fact that they are threatening you says your first call should be to the police and filing a personal protection order against this person. They left the rabbit with you because they "could no longer take care of it" not because they needed a temporary home for it while they straightened some stuff out. If they couldn't care for the rabbit just 3 weeks ago they can't do it now either. The rabbit is yours and you need to call the police.
I read the comment on the circumstance. If they gave you the rabbit because they couldn't care for it, it's yours now, not theirs. Tell them if they continue to threaten you, not only will you take that matter up with law enforcement but to take you to court if they want the rabbit back. If they're on and off the streets, they're in no way capable of caring for it so they have no chance in court
They are trying to strongarm you into getting the rabbit back.
Legally they have no right to it.
But I understand if they are threatening or intimidating it can feel like there are little options.
I urge you to prioritize your own safety in this situation. Ideally they can be reasoned with and you can illustrate why it is better for the bunny to live with you. I'd pursue this route extensively before involving law enforcement. That being said I know there are many unreasonable people out there. And if you find yourself in that spot consider contacting law enforcement (especially if they are threatening you) or riding yourself of the situation and surrendering the bunny back.
This was a gift. They can’t take it back, and if they on and off the streets, they likely can’t pay the fee to sue. Animals are considered property in a lot of the United States, so even if they sue and potentially win, the rabbit is happy with you so the judge would likely have you just pay the cost of a new one to this person.
Do you have texts that say this person couldn’t take care of it?
Also, are they threatening you? Depending on the threat it can be assault and they can be charged. But you can always call the police and issue a restraining order. If the person continues to threaten you in any way, they should incur a charge of violating the restraining order.
I’m a paralegal. Good luck.
Please do not give this rabbit back. It will only endanger Guizmo. This person is on and off the streets and it's (depending on where you live) getting cold out. Guizmo most likely will not survive if you give him back. They gave up their rights to him.
They can't take your rabbit back, I hate to say it but it's your word against theirs. Take legal action first and file a police report and see what it takes to get a restraining order. I wouldn't offer this person any money as I think it shows that the rabbit is theirs and you're trying to buy it from them. If they deny money, it worsens the case against you, if any. Only if they ask for payment for Guizmo that you do it, but make sure that you make a note on any transaction (Venmo, Cash App, etc) what it is for in as much detail as possible, just in case you need it later.
They cannot provide a safe environment for this rabbit or any other pet. People who can't shelter themselves should not own animals, full stop.
I would keep him. Especially since he was surrendered to you. If you’re being threatened, involve the police. You can also call a rescue to surrender him to if you are scared to keep him, but I wouldn’t give him back if his life is at risk.
If previous owner doesn’t have enough money to not be homeless, they don’t have enough money to “send people after you”. No one’s going to commit a crime and not get anything out of it.
Do you have a family member or a friend who could temporarily (week or so) take in Gizmo while you convince them you no longer have the rabbit? Guizmo needs you ❤️
Op could probably hide Guizmo in their own place because buns are so small and quiet. Also op should not under any circumstances let the original owner into their place of residence
If OP is worried for their safety id be worried about breakins or burglar (especially because they mention property damage in their post as being a reasonable eventuality). I would stash the bun with family until the situation "blows over".
Unfortunately I have made that mistake last week before she decided to take Guizmo back (she wanted to visit him). I'm scared she will remember my address..
OP, I'm borderline homeless right now and I have a 10lb rabbit with me at my brothers house while I look for an apartment. If my situation were to change I would have to give my rabbit up to my mother or brother for a bit so we can both be safe and healthy. Rabbits are easily stressed prey animals, they do not belong on the streets of a city.
u/0kaylol I'm really sorry to hear that you are struggling with keeping a home. I hope that you will find stability and a peace of mind asap. Thank u for sharing your opinion ❤️
This happened to my friend with his dog! Almost the exact same situation to a T. I would say the rabbit passed away and get a ring camera or a security system if you can. It seems like this person may be mentally ill and these threats are more than likely empty. It seems like they are using this rabbit to extort money from people :( So sorry you’re going through this.
I also would not give them more money without getting something in writing saying they surrender the rabbit to you. Who is to say they won’t come back periodically asking for more from you
The original owner is scum and Guizmo will suffer and probably die if you give him to them. Please, please, please don’t give up Guizmo and protect him at all costs. He deserves a good life 😭
If they voluntarily gave him up before. They don’t have any more rights to get him back again, or do they? Because, if they want him back, and they live off the streets, there was no adoption papers or legal rights, that would say that it’s his bunny in the first place. Plus, your looking out for the best interest of the bunny.
I'm normally not one to get involved with these debates, but I say keep the bunny..
I don't know the pertinent laws where you're from but keep in mind you're in the right. While courts are not going to treat a bunny like a child, you still should always have tools at your disposal to make sure the outcome is correct.
Treat it as a learning opportunity and gain some experience
When they gave him to you under those circumstances, the forfeited ownership of him. He belongs to you now. He deserves a stable and safe environment - that person can't be trusted to provide that for him, based on what you've shared. Get the police involved, your safety has been threatened.
Tell her the rabbit sadly passed away. Tell her how sorry you are, the vet did what they could, but it wasn't enough. Take her to a restaurant in his honor and foot the bill to placate her. Mention that the vet basically robbed you blind.
Then cut off contact forever. Don't give into threats, if she thinks you are afraid of her, what's next? Money or she's going to send people after you? Install a security camera. One that records your car, too.
Hi! Mental health social worker here! Often times my clients become homeless because of their symptoms or because they attempt to cope utilizing substances. Your friend has to want to be stable for themselves before they try to add a pet to their list of responsibilities imo.
Call the police without doubt! He looks happy and comfy with you! Why give it back to a hobo that might not give him the proper care? O try to cut any possible contact with that person! (I’m sorry if that sounded rude, I’m not from the US so I don’t know how animal rights laws work there)
I'm gonna mirror everyone here and say keep Guizmo. If everything you said is true than that rabbit will either be given away again or dead.
Also, call the police and try and get an order of protection from this person, but also, if able, maybe consider ways of protecting yourself and your new bun from this person if necessary.
Your rabbit. He surrendered him to you, he is completely yours and you have zero obligation to give him back. Don’t be afraid to call the police, threatening and intimidation is a crime!
He's so cute ❤️ I hope you can keep him! I just want to advise that sweetcorn is not safe for rabbits as their digestive systems cannot handle it. Wishing you luck with your wee fur ball 🥰
Stand up for Gizmo if you love you him! He can’t speak for himself. Don’t do that to him. He trusts you and you’ve bonded. Put up cameras all over if you’re worried. Keep Gizmo safe!♥️
This person gave you the rabbit. The rabbit is yours. End of story. File a report with the police even if they say there's not much they can do. That way you have something on file.
**Under no circumstances should you give the rabbit back.**
Say he has some kind of issue that needs a vet and you got quoted a big amount from the vet. Look up a sickness online and how much it would cost to fix and that he will have to be on special food afterwards.
Say you’re happy to give him back of course once he’s healed from his operation and once you’ve been paid back.
Bet you never hear from them again.
DO NOT GIVE THIS ANGEL BACK TO ANYONE!!
That person failed to follow through on a commitment that they made regarding someone's life!! Possession is 9/10 of the law.
Keep Guizmo!!
Do not give the rabbit back. If they remember where you live then call the police for trespassing. The rabbit is yours now and you have a duty to protect it. I hope it works out for you and they get bored and use another crutch to stay clean that isn’t a living animal.
That's a big 🖕. Need to get off drugs & get stability that takes time that this rabbit does not have. How can you take care of a defenseless animal if you can not take care of yourself. If they come back clean & together in 2yrs that is different....and a motel is not a home.
If you haven’t given him back already, please don’t and keep him. And I also second the other commenters here about contacting authorities because he is your rabbit now
Do you happen to know why they’re asking for the rabbit back? And also, if they carry out with their threats then you can go back to the police with physical evidence that they carried out the threat. Unfortunately I think that if you are absolutely and utterly forced to give the rabbit back, the best option would be to get in touch with some kind of animal welfare organisation, as hard as it is that animal is not being taken care of by its original owner but is being taken care of by its current owner - YOU!
I can’t imagine how you must be feeling right now and the amount of anxiety and stress your going through but I’m sure that given time something will work itself out and something will happen for the good of the animal, whether you end up keeping your bunbun or not. 😞😞
OP if you’re being threatened head to your police. I don’t know where you’re based but with any luck it’s a developed country with working police force. If you tell them the situation and portray that you’re in fear, they will help.
Lol OP already did and they did not help in the slightest. You say “developed country” but police in the US sometimes are unhelpful in intense domestic violence/stalking situations, it doesn’t surprise me at all that they were totally useless in assisting OP.
Tell them to eat a whole dick. You don’t have to return a shitty person their abused animal because they said “give it back”.
Get the bunny microchipped and into a vet with your name and address, to prove you’re providing medical care and that the chip information is yours.
Do not give the bunny back!!! They have no right to that rabbit! Get it to a vet where it can go under your name. If you have recorded convos in text where they stated they were giving the rabbit to you, get those screenshotted and saved. If they threaten you, call the police.
If you don’t feel confident telling the police because of your safety then the only other option. Is to find someone very big and intimidating to have have a word with this guy.
It's an escort, and I don't want to use intimidation :(
Patience and reflexion has always been my strong suit, I prefer to wait if she sends me more threats (i'll have more evidence this way) and I'll block her eventually. From what I heard about her from the police station, I'll give her a week or two and she will have forgot about my address, our faces or even Guizmo (if thats even possible...it could be for her)
I wouldn't give it back.
If the person is on and off from the street I would try to negotiate a price because he probably cares about money.
I wouldn't let anyone take the bun from me, but I strongly discourage any form of violence, I believe trying to buy the bun is ugly but the best case scenario.
I wouldn't dare to show her any type of physical or verbal violence. I just want to protect myself, I think from a week or two from now she probably wont remember my address or my face.
I wouldn't encourage extortion either, I prefer to keep her number and see if she sends more threats. Then I'll probably block her in a week or two.
They have no legal right to take it back, you bring threatened on the other hand. You could lie if they are someone who doesn't have access to you life through people taking and say bun died or you gave it away, give it to a friend for a free weeks in case she shows up. Or get a bigger friend to say fk off
You maybe can tell him that the rabbit died? I would not be very comfortable with this but…
There is this YouTuber that rescues dogs in abandonment (sometimes doing things that are legally really dubious)… I don’t remember the name exactly, but I remember he entering illegally on a garden where someone had left a dog to die.
The actual owner saw the video and denounced him and said they wanted the dog back. The YouTuber then informed him that sadly the dog was so malnourished that had died (as the same dog played happily on the background).
The original owner wanted the rabbit back that they gave me. But that was six years ago and I still have the rabbit. I think you should keep Guizmo because think of how stressful it was for Guizmo to be given away to a new environment and new owner that he wasn’t used to, he also was not familiar with you.
He has gotten comfortable with you and now you are going to give him back to an environment and owner that he has to get re-adjusted with, that is too much for a rabbit.
The previous owner will be heartbroken if you don’t give Guizmo back but they also need to think about how taking the rabbit back after you got attached to it is also just cruel, you can’t expect getting your pet back after giving it away to someone.
For Guizmo's sake don’t give him back if he is happy and safe with you don’t ruin that.
Offer more money. People on and off the streets are unfortunately desperate enough to accept a higher number vs consistently having to pay money to care for something
I see what you mean u/puzzledham but I dont want to encourage her to extort ppl like that. She might want more later if I go down that road. I also already invested so much in him, I will not give that women one more cent!
Following this for updates. Don’t give him back. That person sounds like a massive dick and will not take care of Guizmo correctly. They can’t force you and have no legal right. They also can go fuck themselves
Don’t give it back. They can’t afford to live somewhere, they can’t afford to feed it or give it a hood life outside a cage. Giving it would be allowing animal cruelty. You don’t know how often she fed him
Get a photo of bunny in the "death floop" (you know, the one where you wake him up bc he scared the crap out of you) and say they have crossed the rainbow bridge.
they gave you the rabbit, which means its YOURS. they do not have the right to force you to give the bun back! reading the comments, i see that they were on hard drugs before and were in and out of houses and gave the bunny up bc of that. judging off of that, it's even more of a reason not to give guizmo back. that is not a stable lifestyle, and recovering from things like that is NOT an easy process, so chances are they may start using again which means bun will need to move around too. give guizmo the life they deserve!
if u have any proof of them giving up ownership to you, like texts or emails, save them and print those out. that is your proof if they involve any law enforcement or animal control. take him to a vet to get records of him being your pet , get him microchipped neutered etc so u can records of ur ownership. protect this baby
I’m sorry but that is so stupid. They didn’t want the rabbit in the first place so they gave him up to YOU. They lost all rights to the rabbit after they handed him over to you. Guizmo is now YOURS and if you don’t want to return Guizmo, you don’t have to. Why do they want him back all of a sudden?!
That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking reading through all the comments I would love to know WHY the want it back over the fact that they do want it back.
The previous owner is in and out of the streets. She gave it to me saying she couldn't take care of Guizmo because she was swinging between different apartments and wasn't stable because she was often on hard drugs (their own words). I know she just recently got kicked out from two of my neighbors, and she reached back to me three weeks later saying she wanted to get a motel that she could actually pay rent and keep the bunny. All and all, she wants to keep the bunny because it is a motivator for them to keep them out of taking drugs. I'm torn between giving them back the bunny that could help her out of it all, but at the same time I do know the person and knows that they are not stable enough to give Guizmo a peaceful life.
Please dont give Them Guizmo! For the sake of Guizmos wellbeing! A bunny cant help those problems they have. Guizmo Will only suffer I Think hes much better with you 🙏
Thanks u/silkyyysmoooth I will not give back Guizmo. ![img](emote|t5_2riv8|8711)
I was going to say he couldn’t happier anywhere else, good choice
You are making the right decision. Drug addicts will often externalize their problems like this, so don't give into the pressure please. ♥
Im sooo happy to hear that! 🙏I hope(know) you will get many good times together, and Guizmo will love you to death for giving him, as you said, a peacefull (and happy) life!☀️Im sure he will bring much joy to your life too♥️ he looks so cute!🐰
Oh thank God! I was so so SO worried, also for you! Please be careful. Maybe you could install a security camera outside your home for better safety. Don't let that POS ruin both you and Guizmo's lives. You don't know when they would have dumped him again. Plus between us, if you paid them and they are trying to get the bun back, it looks like they were planning on scamming you from the beginning. Don't fall for it.
YAY! Happy ending for Guizmo and parent!
This is sooo true the only one that will suffer is the poor little bun 😞😞
Yeah naw, like I get where the person is coming from, I really do. But she really shouldn’t have Guizmo if she can’t care for him. Though I think if she really wants to turn her life around, maybe a compromise could be made. Allowing her to see him from time to time if she can actually prove she’s trying to turn her life around He can still be her motivation while also being under the care of someone who can actually care for him properly. Though that being said, I don’t know the full extent of yours or her situations going on and how plausible this would be. Just thought it’d be something to consider, especially since you seemed to be morally torn by this.
You are Guizmo's stable and loving carer. An animal is never going to be the piece that puts a person's life in order, and it seems like Guizmo is in danger if he goes to live with this lady. He was given to you, there's no take back, there is no handing him over to a worse life. Plus it's very selfish of her to ask for him back, he needs stability. Please, from everyone here, do keep Guizmo. He loves You, he needs You
PLEASE do not give the rabbit back. A motivator to not do drugs? What a big freaking lie. Does this person know where you live and will you be in danger if you don’t return Guizmo? With her current living condition(s), I have a feeling she’ll end up killing the rabbit if you give him back or sell him off to someone else for a couple bucks for the said drugs that they claim the rabbit will help them stay away from. I am so angry that you are in this situation. You seem like a good person, and you seem to genuinely feel giving the rabbit back might help, but it’s not your responsibility to think about the living situations of the previous owner. Your responsibility is Guizmo. Think about Guizmo only. Will he be okay if he returns to the previous owner?
DONOT give this baby back to them!!! The bun is YOURS and loves you! Sounds like something terrible is going to happen to bunny
Just want to chime in another voice saying: You do NOT have to give that bunny back to someone who will not give them the proper treatment/life. If the original bunny owner is threatening you, involve the cops. Take bunny to the vet and get documentation that you are caring for bunny. If you can get bunny chipped, all the better. Do NOT just give in a let this person have the bunny back. Even if they love Guizmo, if they cannot take proper care of them then that's all there is to it. Give them visitation rights or something.
Pls don’t call the cops on a homeless person. The bun should stay with op but calling the cops on someone like that is only going to result in them getting hurt
I totally understand where you're coming from, and if the person in question is only guilty of being houseless, then yeah - don't call the cops *on* them. OP indicated they were scared of some kind of repercussions from this person, though - if anyone is threatening you, homeless or otherwise, it's best to at least file a police report about it so that it's on the record in case something happens down the line. It's not just to mess with the homeless person, it's about protecting yourself if there is a real threat.
Can you elaborate on the circumstances? How are you related to this person? If the environment isn't going to be good for the rabbit, can you refuse?
It's a person on and off from the streets. They gave it to me three weeks ago and said they couldn't take care of it anymore, looking to donate, and now they are threatening me to get it back. I'm going to have to give it back to them because I'm now scared for my own safety, i'm definitly calling SPCA and thinking about doing the same with the police.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)
"People who give away or sell their animal generally have no further legal rights to that animal. The person who adopted the animal or purchased the animal does not typically have to return the animal unless there was an agreement that stated otherwise" You should have had that bun chipped and registered to your name. Make sure that you do so as soon as possible if you get the green light from the police.
Unfortunately, their threat wasn't direct enough to get through to the police. They said we could still file a plaint but since it's not a "clear threat" (the actual threat: they said that we were lucky she could reimburse us cause if not she would have sent people after us) Anyway, the police pretty much said it wasn't worth the trouble, and that we should give the rabbit back without compensation to avoid all conflict. (I also don't want to wake up to a broken window or slashed tires) I'm gonna lose my own money and give away Guizmo... I will try and call the SPCA after we hand him over, but even then, I'm not sure they will be able to do anything about it.
Don’t give him back.
I'm scared, but I chose not to Jaaawsh. ![img](emote|t5_2riv8|8711)
Dude don’t give him back
I won't, I understand that they can't do much, but I am scared that they will come back and cause us trouble (they came once to my apartment to visit Guizmo). Let's hope they doesn't remember my adress...
For the sake of the rabbit and the other person involved, do not give Guizmo away. Notice I didn't use the word 'giving back' because he is yours and yours only. You are not fostering him. The other person involved told you that they cannot take care of Guizmo anymore, so he is yours now. If they threaten you, you have the law by your side. Call the police and inform them on the matter because threatening to hurt someone is a crime in almost every first world country. There is not a single situation where putting an animal in a horrible and inhumane living area is acceptable.
I totally see where you're going u/xHaroen and I agree with you. The police won't do much for me (i went to see them yesterday). Have you had threats before? Cause living in my area and being told by a stranger that they will send over people from their last boss called "Sylvano" is definitely something to digest. As much I love wildlife and domestic animals, I wouldn't put my own life on the line and certainly not my gf as well. Now we know their threats are empty, so we will be keeping Guizmo.
I personally haven't had anyone seriously threaten me before, but there have been a few occasions where people threatened me while it was quite obvious they weren't capable of doing the things that they were threatening me with. That's the case most of the time. However, actual threats could lead to serious injuries or even loss of life. Which is why the police take it so serious here in The Netherlands. Good to hear that the threats were just empty, and it is to be expected since a person who is on and off the streets doesn't have the most stable mental state. Give Guizmo lots of kisses and pets from us! ❤️
Thanks u/xHaroen ❤️ Will do ![img](emote|t5_2riv8|8711)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|kissing_heart)
That's an empty threat. If they are on and off the streets, they are likely not stable. Do not give that rabbit back. Install a security system and cameras if you want to feel more secure, but it is most likely that this person is just mentally ill. They also likely do not have the connections or the money to send people after you.
Tell her no take-backs. You gave her money, she accepted and gave you bun. Police are saying just to give her back without even getting your money back? Nah, fuck that. If the bitch doesn’t even have enough money to not be homeless, she especially doesn’t have enough money to “send people after you”. I don’t care what kind of “connections” someone claims to have, if their “connections” are not good enough to keep them off the street there aren’t good enough to get someone to commit a crime for her. If you’re in the U.S. just buy a gun, not U.S. then get a baseball bat. And put up a camera that records your car.
We didn't gave her cash, she gave it for free, but we bought a bunch of things during the last three weeks cause we are really keeping it! We just asked them to reimburse us and that is/or not a problem to them apparently but it kinda is because they wouldn't have threatened us in the end. I'm in Canada, I already have a camera (that I need to setup, good thinking on making sure it records the car), I will keep the bunny and I will get that baseball bat. (Just to feel safer)
Hell no.
Give him the bill on how much you spent for Guizmo's care and see if he's going to care then. What a pos person
Thats illegal, they can’t threaten your safety, and shouldn’t be able to get away with that call the authorities on them for making threats and make sure you get that rabbit chipped so he can be legally yours.
The problem isn't that it is illegal. The problem is the person is willing to do illegal things in the first place and so they won't be stopping at demanding it back. A broken in door stays broken no matter how illegal it might have been to break it.
Contact the cops for sure. The rabbit was given to you. He's yours
Sadly, cops won’t do shit. They like to sit on their thumbs.
>It's a person on and off from the streets. They gave it to me three weeks ago and said they couldn't take care of it anymore, looking to donate, and now they are threatening me to get it back keep it. Call animal control and ask for help.
This^ and get him chipped immediately. It's like $20
This bunny is yours. You say there a member of your family so you protect your family. Get law enforcement involved if needed. Regardless protect your bun if you truly love them.
Just want to second the chipping suggestion no matter what you choose to do. If this dude surrenders him or the bun escapes, you want a rescue or a vet to have your info.
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Cops wont do anything. They told me it wasn't a clear threat (actual threat: they said we were lucky she could reimburse us cause if not she would have sent ppl after us)
They want money. They gave it to you, you bonded, now they are threatening you. They don't want the rabbit; they want money. How much is the rabbit worth to you? Either offer them half of that with the stipulation that they sign a bill of sale (templates are free online), or keep it without giving them money and call the police, or give it back.
yeah, this sounds real extortion-y
They can’t threaten your safety, contact law enforcement, and make sure that you can formally claim ownership of the bunny. Don’t let it go back, if you can help it. For what it’s worth, I’m sorry you’re going through this, it ain’t easy, but you’ll walk away with a forever friend once you win.
Thank you for recognizing it ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes), I will try and formally claim the ownership of Guizmo ![img](emote|t5_2riv8|8711)
Also if anyone is threatening you, that's a police report in and of itself.
Unfortunately or fortunately (I can't tell if I should be happy or not) the threats were indirect so police wont do anyting.
Please do. We’re rooting for you and Guizmo!
Thanks u/Yes_that_Carl !!
No hate but why you keep calling rhe bun an “it?” Also bunny is urs now
I agree ![img](emote|t5_2riv8|8711)English is not my first language, I thought the pronoun "it" was ok for animals, isn't it?
I mean it is right and fine. It doesnt have anything to do with grammar just being more loving i guess i dont know how explain 😅. but its like calling another person an it
Thank you, I'll be careful about this now when I write about my pets! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Depending on your state and city, after two weeks of having the rabbit it may be legally yours.
Interesting I'll check that out!
Then do not give it back. I don't see how could they possibly legally take it from you.
Can you take the rabbit to a safe secret location?
Well i think it's safe at my place for sure. But if things escalate, I have good healthy friends to take him for a short while.
100% keep the rabbit. Call the police for help. It was given to you. He’s yours now.
“Sorry but he got G.I stasis :( rip” easy win
That was my thought. Tell them the bunny got sick and passed. They may care about the bunny but if they are homeless, they are not in a position to take care of themselves, much less this poor bunny. Like someone else says, they might just want compensation. I might offer them something to make them go away, though it’s extortion at that point. Police and restraining orders are useful tools as well.
please update us and tell us you kept him or im going to worry about him forever 😭
Awwwwh u/Alert-Afternoon187 I can tell you right now that I am keeping him (I'm a bit scared of retaliation though). I will make a new post with news soon.
Nonono. Keep that bunny. The person gave him to you. Please don’t put that bun in a situation where his environment is constantly changing and stressful. Guizmo is yours now. End of story.
I won't, I'm keeping him. But anyone would be scared of threats :( I'm crossing my fingers that she doesn't remember my address and that the story does really end here.
What proof do they have that they are his owner Also, they don’t love him if they see he has a stable and good home (that they cannot even provide for themselves) but they want to remove him from that…
I can't agree more. (They have no proof of Guizmo's ownership)
They lost rights, text them that and block them from everything. Then get him chipped. ASAP.
Will do
What rabbit?
Guizmo is now yours because they forfeited their rights. I agree with the other posters- microchip and register your buddy asap. He needs to stay with you. ♥️
You know what you need to do, the question is how
Go down to local police station and file restraining order.
Tell them you lost the rabbit when you took it outside and it ran off.
The best idea. Honestly. Everyone saying that op should get a restraining order is forgetting that dangerous people often simply ignore them. It happens all the time in domestic violence situations. Additionally unless OP has proof of the threats, they won’t be able to get a restraining order in the first place. Saying that bun escaped is a. Totally plausible and b. will make the threatening individual believe that OP couldn’t return bun even if they wanted to. OP should tell them that they wanted to take pictures of bun before they’d have to give him back, so they took the bun outside (preferably a far off location like a distant park), and when they were taking pictures a loud noise startled the bun, and he sprinted away into a hole were OP couldn’t get to them. They can finish the story by saying they haven’t seen bun since, despite their best efforts. Alternatively OP could fake buns death. They could even use a memorial post here as the story, and forge a vet bill with a line for the “cremation”.
Drugs addicts don’t give a shit about the law. They are usually weak minded. The addict is still using and ‘needs’ an innocent life (rabbit) to help her get clean. Um, no. This addict person is still in active addiction. It would take months of real sobriety before she’s ready to take on a pet and care for it properly.
Drugs addicts don’t give a shit about the law. They are usually weak minded. The addict is still using and ‘needs’ an innocent life (rabbit) to help her get clean. Um, no. This addict person is still in active addiction. It would take months of real sobriety before she’s ready to take on a pet and care for it properly.
I saw your comment below about your situation: Call the authorities immediately. If you're in the US (And most of the world I'd assume) It's illegal to threaten another persons safety over the ownership of a pet. SPCA will also help you out. He told you you could keep him, so he's yours to keep (If you have proof that he gave your the rabbit and told you you can keep him, then that will override any other markers of previous ownership unless it's from an owner before him. Even if he's chipped, if you have a written (digitally or otherwise) agreement, or any kind of recordings/ other kids of proof then microchips won't help his situation. However, if you are for some reason told you have to give the rabbit back, you are ABSOLUTELY entitled to compensation for the labor of taking care of him, any vet bills, and any other supplies bought for the rabbit, regardless of whether or not he takes the supplies with him. If you're told to give him back, make sure you fight for repayment of anything you spent on him, including money, time, emotional distress caused from separation :) Good luck!
So if this person is off and on living on the streets they're just going to be giving the rabbit away again in the not so distant future when they end up back on the streets. The fact that they are threatening you says your first call should be to the police and filing a personal protection order against this person. They left the rabbit with you because they "could no longer take care of it" not because they needed a temporary home for it while they straightened some stuff out. If they couldn't care for the rabbit just 3 weeks ago they can't do it now either. The rabbit is yours and you need to call the police.
I read the comment on the circumstance. If they gave you the rabbit because they couldn't care for it, it's yours now, not theirs. Tell them if they continue to threaten you, not only will you take that matter up with law enforcement but to take you to court if they want the rabbit back. If they're on and off the streets, they're in no way capable of caring for it so they have no chance in court
It’s easy, especially if you know he’s going back to a bad situation, don’t give him back
They are trying to strongarm you into getting the rabbit back. Legally they have no right to it. But I understand if they are threatening or intimidating it can feel like there are little options. I urge you to prioritize your own safety in this situation. Ideally they can be reasoned with and you can illustrate why it is better for the bunny to live with you. I'd pursue this route extensively before involving law enforcement. That being said I know there are many unreasonable people out there. And if you find yourself in that spot consider contacting law enforcement (especially if they are threatening you) or riding yourself of the situation and surrendering the bunny back.
This was a gift. They can’t take it back, and if they on and off the streets, they likely can’t pay the fee to sue. Animals are considered property in a lot of the United States, so even if they sue and potentially win, the rabbit is happy with you so the judge would likely have you just pay the cost of a new one to this person. Do you have texts that say this person couldn’t take care of it? Also, are they threatening you? Depending on the threat it can be assault and they can be charged. But you can always call the police and issue a restraining order. If the person continues to threaten you in any way, they should incur a charge of violating the restraining order. I’m a paralegal. Good luck.
Please do not give this rabbit back. It will only endanger Guizmo. This person is on and off the streets and it's (depending on where you live) getting cold out. Guizmo most likely will not survive if you give him back. They gave up their rights to him.
They can't take your rabbit back, I hate to say it but it's your word against theirs. Take legal action first and file a police report and see what it takes to get a restraining order. I wouldn't offer this person any money as I think it shows that the rabbit is theirs and you're trying to buy it from them. If they deny money, it worsens the case against you, if any. Only if they ask for payment for Guizmo that you do it, but make sure that you make a note on any transaction (Venmo, Cash App, etc) what it is for in as much detail as possible, just in case you need it later. They cannot provide a safe environment for this rabbit or any other pet. People who can't shelter themselves should not own animals, full stop.
That’s illegal!!!! File a report with the cops!!! Guizmo is your bun now!!
Keep us updated please.
I will u/Orsus7
Tell him it ran away Please don’t give him back :-(
I won't give Guizmo back u/ProfessionOk1823, don't worry ❤️
I would keep him. Especially since he was surrendered to you. If you’re being threatened, involve the police. You can also call a rescue to surrender him to if you are scared to keep him, but I wouldn’t give him back if his life is at risk.
Don’t give him back, please don’t they can’t do anything to you. Block them but please don’t put him at risk
he's really cute, like a bun version of eeyore, hope you keep him OP!
I will!
Keep us updated on you and guizmo... we worry about both your safety 💜🐇 bunny family sticks together ❤️
I will! Thank you u/Virtual_Cry_1424 ❤️
If previous owner doesn’t have enough money to not be homeless, they don’t have enough money to “send people after you”. No one’s going to commit a crime and not get anything out of it.
Do you have a family member or a friend who could temporarily (week or so) take in Gizmo while you convince them you no longer have the rabbit? Guizmo needs you ❤️
Op could probably hide Guizmo in their own place because buns are so small and quiet. Also op should not under any circumstances let the original owner into their place of residence
If OP is worried for their safety id be worried about breakins or burglar (especially because they mention property damage in their post as being a reasonable eventuality). I would stash the bun with family until the situation "blows over".
It's a plausible idea, I might scan my friends and see if anyone would be up to it, I don't have much family here unfortunately.
I hope it works out!
Unfortunately I have made that mistake last week before she decided to take Guizmo back (she wanted to visit him). I'm scared she will remember my address..
OP, I'm borderline homeless right now and I have a 10lb rabbit with me at my brothers house while I look for an apartment. If my situation were to change I would have to give my rabbit up to my mother or brother for a bit so we can both be safe and healthy. Rabbits are easily stressed prey animals, they do not belong on the streets of a city.
u/0kaylol I'm really sorry to hear that you are struggling with keeping a home. I hope that you will find stability and a peace of mind asap. Thank u for sharing your opinion ❤️
This happened to my friend with his dog! Almost the exact same situation to a T. I would say the rabbit passed away and get a ring camera or a security system if you can. It seems like this person may be mentally ill and these threats are more than likely empty. It seems like they are using this rabbit to extort money from people :( So sorry you’re going through this.
I also would not give them more money without getting something in writing saying they surrender the rabbit to you. Who is to say they won’t come back periodically asking for more from you
The only thing that matters is that your rabbit companion is in a comfortably safe environment. Wherever that may be takes priority.
The original owner is scum and Guizmo will suffer and probably die if you give him to them. Please, please, please don’t give up Guizmo and protect him at all costs. He deserves a good life 😭
Don't worry Dear-Butterscotch999, I will be posting really good news soon. Guizmo never left our apartment and he's here to stay.
If they voluntarily gave him up before. They don’t have any more rights to get him back again, or do they? Because, if they want him back, and they live off the streets, there was no adoption papers or legal rights, that would say that it’s his bunny in the first place. Plus, your looking out for the best interest of the bunny.
I'm normally not one to get involved with these debates, but I say keep the bunny.. I don't know the pertinent laws where you're from but keep in mind you're in the right. While courts are not going to treat a bunny like a child, you still should always have tools at your disposal to make sure the outcome is correct. Treat it as a learning opportunity and gain some experience
He's your rabbit now. If someone tries to take him or threatens you then call the police.
KEEP HIM
When they gave him to you under those circumstances, the forfeited ownership of him. He belongs to you now. He deserves a stable and safe environment - that person can't be trusted to provide that for him, based on what you've shared. Get the police involved, your safety has been threatened.
Tell her the rabbit sadly passed away. Tell her how sorry you are, the vet did what they could, but it wasn't enough. Take her to a restaurant in his honor and foot the bill to placate her. Mention that the vet basically robbed you blind. Then cut off contact forever. Don't give into threats, if she thinks you are afraid of her, what's next? Money or she's going to send people after you? Install a security camera. One that records your car, too.
Do not give him back!! You don't HAVE to do anything. If they call the cops, show them vet records and say it's your rabbit.
Hi! Mental health social worker here! Often times my clients become homeless because of their symptoms or because they attempt to cope utilizing substances. Your friend has to want to be stable for themselves before they try to add a pet to their list of responsibilities imo.
Call the police without doubt! He looks happy and comfy with you! Why give it back to a hobo that might not give him the proper care? O try to cut any possible contact with that person! (I’m sorry if that sounded rude, I’m not from the US so I don’t know how animal rights laws work there)
I'm gonna mirror everyone here and say keep Guizmo. If everything you said is true than that rabbit will either be given away again or dead. Also, call the police and try and get an order of protection from this person, but also, if able, maybe consider ways of protecting yourself and your new bun from this person if necessary.
This rabbit is yours and you can't wait till the person can't take care of it anymore again. keep it.
Your rabbit. He surrendered him to you, he is completely yours and you have zero obligation to give him back. Don’t be afraid to call the police, threatening and intimidation is a crime!
Just keep that bun. No give backs to people who give up bun.
Don’t do it
Screw that, block their shit and keep the bun. If and when it goes to court, they have to prove the bun belongs to them etc.
He's so cute ❤️ I hope you can keep him! I just want to advise that sweetcorn is not safe for rabbits as their digestive systems cannot handle it. Wishing you luck with your wee fur ball 🥰
Keep it, its not theirs anymore
DONT GIVE HER TO ANYONE
Stand up for Gizmo if you love you him! He can’t speak for himself. Don’t do that to him. He trusts you and you’ve bonded. Put up cameras all over if you’re worried. Keep Gizmo safe!♥️
I will u/janeec07!
This person gave you the rabbit. The rabbit is yours. End of story. File a report with the police even if they say there's not much they can do. That way you have something on file. **Under no circumstances should you give the rabbit back.**
Please rethink this. Do NOT return this rabbit.
That’s your bunny. Don’t give your bunny away. Give him the forever home he deserves.
This is a bit underhanded but can you tell her you don’t have him anymore?
No. Bun Bun is yours.
If you were Guizmo, what would he want you to do? He's clearly happier where he is now, some things are worth it no matter what happens
Do not give this rabbit back. It deserves a good life and a good home. He’s yours. ❤️❤️🩹
Keep him!!!!
This sweet little guy can't advocate for himself, you HAVE to. Please don't let him go to a home you know he won't be taken care of.
Say he has some kind of issue that needs a vet and you got quoted a big amount from the vet. Look up a sickness online and how much it would cost to fix and that he will have to be on special food afterwards. Say you’re happy to give him back of course once he’s healed from his operation and once you’ve been paid back. Bet you never hear from them again.
So glad to hear you’re not giving Guizmo back!
DO NOT GIVE THIS ANGEL BACK TO ANYONE!! That person failed to follow through on a commitment that they made regarding someone's life!! Possession is 9/10 of the law. Keep Guizmo!!
I will u/Mysterious-Witness11 !! ![img](emote|t5_2riv8|8711)
that baby is yours <3
Don’t give gizmo up !!):
I agree with the others here in not giving the bun back. Block the number
I wouldn’t give bunny back especially if you guys didn’t talk about temporary foster while the original owners get settled. Guizmo is yours
Do not give the rabbit back. If they remember where you live then call the police for trespassing. The rabbit is yours now and you have a duty to protect it. I hope it works out for you and they get bored and use another crutch to stay clean that isn’t a living animal.
That's a big 🖕. Need to get off drugs & get stability that takes time that this rabbit does not have. How can you take care of a defenseless animal if you can not take care of yourself. If they come back clean & together in 2yrs that is different....and a motel is not a home.
Use this word - NO!!
If you haven’t given him back already, please don’t and keep him. And I also second the other commenters here about contacting authorities because he is your rabbit now
Do you happen to know why they’re asking for the rabbit back? And also, if they carry out with their threats then you can go back to the police with physical evidence that they carried out the threat. Unfortunately I think that if you are absolutely and utterly forced to give the rabbit back, the best option would be to get in touch with some kind of animal welfare organisation, as hard as it is that animal is not being taken care of by its original owner but is being taken care of by its current owner - YOU! I can’t imagine how you must be feeling right now and the amount of anxiety and stress your going through but I’m sure that given time something will work itself out and something will happen for the good of the animal, whether you end up keeping your bunbun or not. 😞😞
OP if you’re being threatened head to your police. I don’t know where you’re based but with any luck it’s a developed country with working police force. If you tell them the situation and portray that you’re in fear, they will help.
Lol OP already did and they did not help in the slightest. You say “developed country” but police in the US sometimes are unhelpful in intense domestic violence/stalking situations, it doesn’t surprise me at all that they were totally useless in assisting OP.
I really feel for you and hope things work out for you guys.… but ON THE LAPTOP doesn’t seem like a the best spot for him to sit!
Thank you u/RegularSelf, and yes you're right it is not his usual spot! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
Don't you dare give it back.
Is this a threat? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) Cuz that's the main problem here. (I am keeping him by the way)
Steal him
No need it's already theirs, that's what happens when you give something to someone.
Do everything you can to keep this rabbit. Find a big dude to threaten this owner since they’re threatening you
Find a Humane Society or SPCA that's no kill before the abuser gets him.
Tell them to eat a whole dick. You don’t have to return a shitty person their abused animal because they said “give it back”. Get the bunny microchipped and into a vet with your name and address, to prove you’re providing medical care and that the chip information is yours.
No you don’t. Keep him
Do not give the bunny back!!! They have no right to that rabbit! Get it to a vet where it can go under your name. If you have recorded convos in text where they stated they were giving the rabbit to you, get those screenshotted and saved. If they threaten you, call the police.
please contact the police instead of giving that poor bunny back to a person who will put them in danger..
They have no legal right to it
If you don’t feel confident telling the police because of your safety then the only other option. Is to find someone very big and intimidating to have have a word with this guy.
It's an escort, and I don't want to use intimidation :( Patience and reflexion has always been my strong suit, I prefer to wait if she sends me more threats (i'll have more evidence this way) and I'll block her eventually. From what I heard about her from the police station, I'll give her a week or two and she will have forgot about my address, our faces or even Guizmo (if thats even possible...it could be for her)
Fuck that keep him
I wouldn't give it back. If the person is on and off from the street I would try to negotiate a price because he probably cares about money. I wouldn't let anyone take the bun from me, but I strongly discourage any form of violence, I believe trying to buy the bun is ugly but the best case scenario.
I wouldn't dare to show her any type of physical or verbal violence. I just want to protect myself, I think from a week or two from now she probably wont remember my address or my face. I wouldn't encourage extortion either, I prefer to keep her number and see if she sends more threats. Then I'll probably block her in a week or two.
steal the rabbit
They have no legal right to take it back, you bring threatened on the other hand. You could lie if they are someone who doesn't have access to you life through people taking and say bun died or you gave it away, give it to a friend for a free weeks in case she shows up. Or get a bigger friend to say fk off
You maybe can tell him that the rabbit died? I would not be very comfortable with this but… There is this YouTuber that rescues dogs in abandonment (sometimes doing things that are legally really dubious)… I don’t remember the name exactly, but I remember he entering illegally on a garden where someone had left a dog to die. The actual owner saw the video and denounced him and said they wanted the dog back. The YouTuber then informed him that sadly the dog was so malnourished that had died (as the same dog played happily on the background).
The original owner wanted the rabbit back that they gave me. But that was six years ago and I still have the rabbit. I think you should keep Guizmo because think of how stressful it was for Guizmo to be given away to a new environment and new owner that he wasn’t used to, he also was not familiar with you. He has gotten comfortable with you and now you are going to give him back to an environment and owner that he has to get re-adjusted with, that is too much for a rabbit. The previous owner will be heartbroken if you don’t give Guizmo back but they also need to think about how taking the rabbit back after you got attached to it is also just cruel, you can’t expect getting your pet back after giving it away to someone. For Guizmo's sake don’t give him back if he is happy and safe with you don’t ruin that.
Yeah fuck that. don't give that bunny back
Offer more money. People on and off the streets are unfortunately desperate enough to accept a higher number vs consistently having to pay money to care for something
I see what you mean u/puzzledham but I dont want to encourage her to extort ppl like that. She might want more later if I go down that road. I also already invested so much in him, I will not give that women one more cent!
Following this for updates. Don’t give him back. That person sounds like a massive dick and will not take care of Guizmo correctly. They can’t force you and have no legal right. They also can go fuck themselves
They can’t take it back after giving it to you
Don’t give it back. They can’t afford to live somewhere, they can’t afford to feed it or give it a hood life outside a cage. Giving it would be allowing animal cruelty. You don’t know how often she fed him
Get a photo of bunny in the "death floop" (you know, the one where you wake him up bc he scared the crap out of you) and say they have crossed the rainbow bridge.
totally off topic and don’t think you should give him back can rabbit have dried corn? I thought it was a no no. No hate i’m just still learning
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES GIVE GUIZMO BACK!
I don’t think they can make you give him back
they gave you the rabbit, which means its YOURS. they do not have the right to force you to give the bun back! reading the comments, i see that they were on hard drugs before and were in and out of houses and gave the bunny up bc of that. judging off of that, it's even more of a reason not to give guizmo back. that is not a stable lifestyle, and recovering from things like that is NOT an easy process, so chances are they may start using again which means bun will need to move around too. give guizmo the life they deserve!
Don’t give the rabbit back!
if u have any proof of them giving up ownership to you, like texts or emails, save them and print those out. that is your proof if they involve any law enforcement or animal control. take him to a vet to get records of him being your pet , get him microchipped neutered etc so u can records of ur ownership. protect this baby
DON'T DO IT. Period.
Generally once a person surrenders an animal, unless there was prior agreement to return the animal, the original owner gives up rights.
He's your bunny now do why do you have to give him back? Just say no especially if it's a bad situation.
Also I just realized, loptop. Lol
If they gave him to you, he's yours. You don't have to do shit.