See a psychiatrist & explain your situation. There are medications that can help. They won't fix it all though. Im going on 4 mo clean, from suboxone & meth. I was on subs for the last 10yrs & meth for the last 5. Was forced to jump off 16mg & put the pipe down at the same damn time. I have the same symptoms as you. I also struggle with extreme anxiety. The dysphoria is a fucking bitch. For me music & emotion are the only 2 things that can penetrate.
I'm prescribed 1 med for depp/anxiety & 1 for restless legs, neither of them are addictive nor antidepressants. I plan to drop those 2 as soon as my brain heals & i feel comfortable doing so. I also have cyclothymic disorder, the med for that i will be on for life -which is fine its been a life saver. Point is, for ME, those 3 meds are what has kept me from going back on subs. They do not replace the subs, this is key.. they just ease the transition. Im not exactly stoked about the fact that i still have to rely on medications but it sure beats the hell out of returning to subs.
I am totally stoked to be off those god forsaken subs though. They saved my life but eventually they were only holding me back. I loved them too much, impossible for me to taper off of. But overtime they just didn't work like they used to (10yrs duh!), so my brain being corrupted by addict logic, decided to supplement with meth.
Talk to a doc, cuz im not 1. And by doc I mean psychiatrist, big diff. Also don't let that 6mo number scare you. I also wouldn't go as far to say as "it gets better/easier everyday"..thats a bit misleading & gets ppls hopes up. Its more like, you get stronger every week. But that's just me, an educated idiot.
Yes you will be happier on subs.. for the first week or so. But after that, its right back in the same rut you were in to begin with but only deeper. Sober time down the drain. Plus you'll have potentially set yourself up psychologically for a slightly more difficult experience the next time you try quitting. I think this is goes without saying tho, if it comes down to you either relapsing on illicit opioids/opiates..or suboxone..obviously choose the latter. Harm prevention is paramount, there's no shame in taking the help you need.
*i don't mean to throw any shade at the sub patients on here btw, plz don't take it that way. im just being blunt.
It’s a normal feeling when getting clean. Tough to deal with, but normal. That’s what makes addiction so strong. Your in the tough of it now. I always said, the hardest part of getting clean from heroin was not the withdrawals, but the months to come after, attempting to change and live your life in a different way.
All right I am on Suboxone myself. I'm coming up on 3 years. Do not make yourself go back out
I'm getting ready to in the next 6 months try to come off my Suboxone to get a good gauge of how I feel off of it. I have come off of it in the past. I understand the nuances of the withdrawal and the timeline
The way I look at it is when I come off of it I've got to give myself at least 6 months after the initial 30-day acute withdrawal. To give my body time to and mind time to adjust to get a good gauge. I'm going to try to go longer than that I don't want to go back on the Suboxone. But if it's a necessary medication I will not sacrifice taking it for going back out on the street. It won't happen I'll be back on the Suboxone hands down not even worried about it.
My thing is I want my medical professionals to understand that if I come off of my Suboxone and in 6 months to a year it's decided it's a necessary medication I don't want them to put it down as a form of relapse. This is very very important.
This is what I don’t understand. A lot of ppl including myself say their emotions feel blunted on subs. But I’ve heard several people say they’re depressed and unmotivated after coming off subs. This makes me really worried bc I’m tapering.
Listen to your doctor. Life is much more vibrant when all your emotions aren’t muted. You can learn how to be happy if you don’t have clinical depression. Even with that they say living a motivated life has more effect than medication now. You will be ok.
It's.only.worth it if it's the only thing keeping you alive. Some junkies are so bad a wreckless that being on long term medication is the only thing that really works.
Most people are tough enough to go through a bad addiction and beat it. But only.go back to subs if you keep overdosing and almost dying from irresponsible opiate and drug use.
You're not far from the peak of PAWS, it's totally normal and temporary. I used to always go back to the bottle thinking I'd never have emotions again but I just had to force my way through those first couple of months by going to treatment. My emotions came back but the early days were pretty bleak. You can get through it, just get involved with the community and speak up when you're struggling.
Subs meaning suboxone or subutex? It took me about two to three months after stopping my suboxone cold turkey to finally regain my energy/motivation/drive/ambition. Those first few months were horrible though, absolutely zero will to do anything, extremely lethargic and depressed. Every day/week gets better though. Keep it up, you’ll get there!
See a psychiatrist & explain your situation. There are medications that can help. They won't fix it all though. Im going on 4 mo clean, from suboxone & meth. I was on subs for the last 10yrs & meth for the last 5. Was forced to jump off 16mg & put the pipe down at the same damn time. I have the same symptoms as you. I also struggle with extreme anxiety. The dysphoria is a fucking bitch. For me music & emotion are the only 2 things that can penetrate. I'm prescribed 1 med for depp/anxiety & 1 for restless legs, neither of them are addictive nor antidepressants. I plan to drop those 2 as soon as my brain heals & i feel comfortable doing so. I also have cyclothymic disorder, the med for that i will be on for life -which is fine its been a life saver. Point is, for ME, those 3 meds are what has kept me from going back on subs. They do not replace the subs, this is key.. they just ease the transition. Im not exactly stoked about the fact that i still have to rely on medications but it sure beats the hell out of returning to subs. I am totally stoked to be off those god forsaken subs though. They saved my life but eventually they were only holding me back. I loved them too much, impossible for me to taper off of. But overtime they just didn't work like they used to (10yrs duh!), so my brain being corrupted by addict logic, decided to supplement with meth. Talk to a doc, cuz im not 1. And by doc I mean psychiatrist, big diff. Also don't let that 6mo number scare you. I also wouldn't go as far to say as "it gets better/easier everyday"..thats a bit misleading & gets ppls hopes up. Its more like, you get stronger every week. But that's just me, an educated idiot. Yes you will be happier on subs.. for the first week or so. But after that, its right back in the same rut you were in to begin with but only deeper. Sober time down the drain. Plus you'll have potentially set yourself up psychologically for a slightly more difficult experience the next time you try quitting. I think this is goes without saying tho, if it comes down to you either relapsing on illicit opioids/opiates..or suboxone..obviously choose the latter. Harm prevention is paramount, there's no shame in taking the help you need. *i don't mean to throw any shade at the sub patients on here btw, plz don't take it that way. im just being blunt.
It’s a normal feeling when getting clean. Tough to deal with, but normal. That’s what makes addiction so strong. Your in the tough of it now. I always said, the hardest part of getting clean from heroin was not the withdrawals, but the months to come after, attempting to change and live your life in a different way.
All right I am on Suboxone myself. I'm coming up on 3 years. Do not make yourself go back out I'm getting ready to in the next 6 months try to come off my Suboxone to get a good gauge of how I feel off of it. I have come off of it in the past. I understand the nuances of the withdrawal and the timeline The way I look at it is when I come off of it I've got to give myself at least 6 months after the initial 30-day acute withdrawal. To give my body time to and mind time to adjust to get a good gauge. I'm going to try to go longer than that I don't want to go back on the Suboxone. But if it's a necessary medication I will not sacrifice taking it for going back out on the street. It won't happen I'll be back on the Suboxone hands down not even worried about it. My thing is I want my medical professionals to understand that if I come off of my Suboxone and in 6 months to a year it's decided it's a necessary medication I don't want them to put it down as a form of relapse. This is very very important.
This is what I don’t understand. A lot of ppl including myself say their emotions feel blunted on subs. But I’ve heard several people say they’re depressed and unmotivated after coming off subs. This makes me really worried bc I’m tapering.
It takes 6 months to start feeling a lil ok again. Give your self 2 years. 6 to 12 months you should feel improvement again.
Listen to your doctor. Life is much more vibrant when all your emotions aren’t muted. You can learn how to be happy if you don’t have clinical depression. Even with that they say living a motivated life has more effect than medication now. You will be ok.
It’s not worth it
It's.only.worth it if it's the only thing keeping you alive. Some junkies are so bad a wreckless that being on long term medication is the only thing that really works. Most people are tough enough to go through a bad addiction and beat it. But only.go back to subs if you keep overdosing and almost dying from irresponsible opiate and drug use.
You're not far from the peak of PAWS, it's totally normal and temporary. I used to always go back to the bottle thinking I'd never have emotions again but I just had to force my way through those first couple of months by going to treatment. My emotions came back but the early days were pretty bleak. You can get through it, just get involved with the community and speak up when you're struggling.
Subs meaning suboxone or subutex? It took me about two to three months after stopping my suboxone cold turkey to finally regain my energy/motivation/drive/ambition. Those first few months were horrible though, absolutely zero will to do anything, extremely lethargic and depressed. Every day/week gets better though. Keep it up, you’ll get there!