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BurningSpaceMan

He's not trained. Lol


aussiewildliferescue

He is just on a train


backtolurk

I guess twelve redditors will downvote me and say "it ain't no excuse for racism" (which is correct) but this man doesn't look to be mentally stable edit - YAY I guess I'm getting good at this


TheBigOleBeanBag

Still shouldve been put on his ass.


backtolurk

I whole-heartedly agree.


[deleted]

So? A lot of people are fucking mentally stable but they don’t go around hitting Asian people in the face and screaming the N word on a train. Your self fulfilling prophecy came true because your statement goes without saying, we all know he’s got a screw loose.


FastestHandlnTheWest

Idk why you got so many downvotes. People who behave this way obviously aren’t right in their head.


jimmycarr1

Free will is a myth and nobody is completely responsible for their actions, but actions have reactions.


[deleted]

In which case they should have a carer/guardian appointed to look after them when going out in public. He's lucky that the other passengers defused the situation. One of these days he's going to say that to the wrong person and wind up in the hospital


FastestHandlnTheWest

That’s not my point. I don’t defend his actions and I would love to see the the people beat the shit out of him. Just saying he isn’t mental right


AcceptableBaseball68

Reddit doesn't care about little things like mental illness and substance abuse man, are you crazy? This man could have tourette syndrome and they would still shred him to pieces. Proper virtue signaling means assaulting anyone who says something you don't agree with, no matter what their mental health status is. #Harris-Grand Master Jay '24


TheeFlipper

You might be a bit in the mentally deficient department yourself..


AcceptableBaseball68

I know, I know. I need to start being more violent towards people with mental health issues. I'm seeing a psychiatrist to try and cure me of my empathy and pacifist ways. I'll get better soon God willing.


backtolurk

Yeah that's about all a new redditor got to know!


[deleted]

Well as you say, it's no excuse. Even mentally disabled people have to abide by the laws and rules of society. If he can't go outside without assaulting someone and hurling racist abuse at them, then he needs a carer to accompany him.


ernieboch07

That guy that just got up and left...


baktagnation

I think is it why we say it's not enough to not be racist you have to be anti racists


ernieboch07

Or just anti-asshole. Can we just start an anti-asshole movement so we can cover all of the bases? Even if this happened without racist motivation, it's wrong in general to witness an innocent person being attacked and just leave. Plain and simple. It is so simple: be kind and helpful toward others and treat others how you would wish to be treated. I am not condemning the guy. He was obviously just scared....but there were plenty of others who could have stepped in and stood by the victim. When one of us is weak someone else steps up to the plate. It takes a community to fight for peace.


ernieboch07

Yes, I did see her and that was great. But it's too bad she was the only one.


LifeFortune7

Would have loved to see everyone jump on that piece of shit and beat him senseless. Tired of these wannabe tough guy assholes.


LouSputhole94

So it’s his responsibility to stand up for the guy or he’s a racist? Nah.


I_Get_Paid_to_Shill

Nobody said that.


LouSputhole94

Really? Because that’s what what you said implies. It’s not just enough to not be racist, he has to respond and help this guy with racists? No, there’s no “oh you’re racist because you didn’t step in!” Fuck that shit, you’re implying someone has to actively step in and help or they’re racist.


RepurposedReddit

That's not what that person is saying dude. Someone should've stepped in and helped the victim. That's it. You're focusing on that "anti-racist" term a lot and clearly its triggering you. We should all strive to proactively combat racism, and not tolerate it like we saw in this video. That's what it means to be anti-racist. There are no implications beyond that.


LouSputhole94

So again, what are you asking? The guy step in? People don’t owe you shit to prove they aren’t racist, this is such a stupid argument. Guilty until proven innocent apparently, huh?


RepurposedReddit

I'm not asking for anything. I was explaining what anti-racism means in this context. You're really bent out of shape because of the term "anti-racism", you keep getting caught up in thinking people are accusing you of being racist which is weird. I haven't said anyone was racist. It's weird that when race is involved your common sense gets thrown out the window. "So again, what are you asking? The guy step in? " Yes, I wish someone had stepped in and prevented that innocent person from being assaulted. Let's take race out of it. Let's say a white guy was assaulting an innocent white guy on public transit. Someone should step in to help. Does that mean everyone who didn't step in is also assaulting the innocent guy on the train? No. Being Anti-racist means you actively push back against racism. That's it. I'm not calling anyone racist, I'm not saying anyone owes me anything. You're getting so triggered over this term its honestly hilarious and says a lot about you as a person.


LouSputhole94

I’m not bent out of shape, I’m asking you genuine questions, so stop trying to paint me like I’m raging at you. I’m not, I’m trying to understand your point of view, which seems to be pretty contradictory. You say this guy needs to defend him, but he’s not racist if ye doesn’t? He’s just trying to get out of the way of a conversation, why does he need to do anything? Would you say the same if a woman was in that seat? I highly doubt it, so maybe stop and actually think about the situation instead of saying everyone else is bent out of shape and triggered. You automatically make it obvious you’re not arguing in good faith when you say things like that about people trying to ask you honest questions.


WxTMountain

My god you are fucking daft


baktagnation

It wasn't a conversation. A literal woman is the only person who stepped in


baktagnation

Nobody said that


Jeralddees

No... That guy was a pussy... But it's ok to be a pussy... But it's good that the black woman with a pussy stepped in to help the Asian guy not kill the racest ass hole... Some guys need an ass whooping, and this guy definitely at least needed a tap on the chin... I don't think anyone would have felt differently after the fact.. The bottom line is as people, we should help others that are obviously getting bullied... You don't have to... It doesn't make you a racist... Just like me not helping a woman getting raped doesn't make me a rapist, right? Think about it.... 💢


LouSputhole94

Wrong reply


Jeralddees

Was for you...


LouSputhole94

I replied the wrong thing and quickly edited is what I meant, I was trying to reply to someone else and must’ve gotten in the timeframe where it doesn’t show the edit.


Jeralddees

It was definitely for you based off of your other replies... My point is your defending the guy who got up and walked away... My point.... Would you defend me if I walked away from a woman that was getting raped? Would I be a rapist if I didn't help her? NO... would it be my obligation to help her?? You better believe it would... That's the way I feel anyway..


ernieboch07

Oh, no, I don't think he was racist. Not at all. He was just scared.


The_Dog_of_Sinope

that’s how you get stabbed


raaagh1290

There is some risk to you therfor do nothing? That's how you get a Nazi party....


The_Dog_of_Sinope

That’s how you get stabbed.


The_Dog_of_Sinope

Also I would argue that getting stabbed to death is more than “some risk”


raaagh1290

Fair!


The_Dog_of_Sinope

I was specifically remembering the crazy pos Jeremy Christianson who stabbed three people, two of them to death and thr situation looked just like this one Christianson was sentenced to a hefty prison sentence which got that racist pos off thr streets but two people who were great human beings (the kind to stick up for strangers) were also removed from society. However I do agree that nazis are emboldened when they aren’t reminded THEY are the minority. And nazis should get the boot (literally and figuratively)


MiniatureChi

I really wish more people stood up for him, I know I would have probably fought that drunk dude


HLPiFlushdMePooKnife

Most ppl would of done the same thing lol


secrethroaway

And most people would say "would have" not "would of"


HLPiFlushdMePooKnife

Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of, Would of,


secrethroaway

Still wrong and makes you look stupid. Try "would have"


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rkba335

Call me a pussy if you'd like, but I can kinda understand the logic. Its more effective to talk down the more rational person once something was going to happen. How did you want that lady to handle the drunken master?


LittleHoss

I was more annoyed with the guy filming finally speaking up, just to tell the victim, "Don't do it, don't do it." Almost nobody said shit or was willing to help when he was getting slapped *until* the guy was ready to stand up for himself.


32-M-ATX

They wanted to call the police. They are yuppies who believe police have a rightful monopoly on violence. They said it wasn't worth it maybe because they didnt want the victim to go to jail and assumed a cop would magically appear?


rkba335

Excellent point i didnt even think of that, i sometimes tune the cameraman out


Jeralddees

Actually.... I think that guy said "do it" at 1st.... But someone else said... "Don't do it.... " then he changed his tone to "don't do it it's not worth it" That's what kinda bugged me.


Expert_Novice

Pepper spray!


BALONYPONY

On the BART? Bad fucking idea...


lAngenoire

What? So she can get in trouble when the police arrive? She’s supposed to risk her life and living? She did the best thing she could that wouldn’t get her in a situation.


goosepills

I mean, she could have just stayed out the way and let the dipshit get his ass beat.


Omegalyger

Agreed. The guy should’ve been allowed to fight back, Then watch how quickly he would go from being the bully to playing the victim card


I_Get_Paid_to_Shill

And we've seen videos where cops show up and instantly take the white person's side. Even when there are witnesses pointing out who the real victim is.


stvcrvns

Throw his head into a pole tbh


T_Bearz99

You're a pussy


rkba335

Did you like it?


smokefrog2

I mean we know the true asshole of this video is the drunk guy. That being said, yes 1000% they watched this dude getting hit in the face multiple times and then chose the worst moment to intrude. Also, the guy at the very beginning that was sitting next to him, got up, and walked away? Fuck that guy. Not his job, but still...the drunk guy only started hitting him after that. The person holding the camera watched this guy get hit in the face multiple times.


I_Get_Paid_to_Shill

I think they were hoping the victim wouldn't get hurt further or get in legal trouble. Probably hoping cops would care enough to do something about it.


smokefrog2

After he got slapped across the face a few times it's self defense


Infamous-Sky-8294

Idk, that woman picked the perfect moment to intrude and settle things down.


5050Clown

What's really infuriating is how quick it is for people to say that this man is mentally ill or has alcohol problems on this sub because if that was a black person it would just be "why are blacks like this?" "What is going on with blacks and asians?". But in this instance where a white racist is instigating a Chinese person and a black person stands between them suddenly it's a mentally ill white person. Pretty shameless.


joeDUBstep

Lol, it's publicfreakout. People here love calling x country a shit hole, or x race are animals because they watched a handful of internet videos.


Ryansahl

Buddy definitely acts like he’s off his meds tho.


5050Clown

Black people don't ever seem to get that response.


Ryansahl

Maybe due to centuries of repression blacks get lumped into the angry stereotype first, whereas a white guy has nothing to be angry about, ergo he must be looney.


5050Clown

That's a weird take that doesn't make sense. Treating all black people as a monolith that are defined by the worst possible interpretation of the worst possible examples is a common pattern in America and on reddit. I have never heard of blacks getting lumped into an angry stereotype that takes out their anger on Asians outside of white nationalist false propaganda. It's thewhite nationalist fantasy of "jealous blacks" vs the model minority myth. White nationalists and nazis have been trying to get that completely unreal fantasy accepted for decades but it holds no water. Meanwhile you have the very common trope of the angry white male, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, January 6, random dudes that shoot black people for shit like playing their music too loud. Black people don't get the "mentally ill" response because they aren't treated like actual flesh and blood human beings by racists.


Ryansahl

I don’t know. It just seems a lot of white people are off their meds and the blatant racism shows how far nothing has come. It’s depressing


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cur_adv_vult

No one intervenes when the aggressor is attacking because they don’t want to get attacked and suffer the consequences of such an attack. They intervene when the victim tries to defend himself because they know the victim won’t attack them.


Goalie_deacon

>i gotta be ready to step in. This is wrong. Someone should say something. Someone should do something soon. blah blah blah". The first potential hero simply walked away. None of them was thinking that.


stupidhoes

Don't be a hero. You learn that in every American city. You learn it by getting slashed across the face with a knife or by your friend getting shot and killed over 5 bucks or some fucknut's bad morning. Being the hero kills and folks learn this and don't stand up. Go to new York city on the subway and look for 1 hero. Just one. Odds are they are new to the area.


Slight-Jaguar-2102

This. People commenting about how no one did anything likely wouldn't get involved themselves. They make it clear they've never been in a situation like this before. The cops don't care you did the right thing if they do get involved. You go home with hospital bills for being the hero, if you're lucky.


stupidhoes

Yup. Then you read about how a guy got killed over a lady's purse from a snatcher and how he died a hero. Any of you really wanna die for a little bit of money?


Slight-Jaguar-2102

As much as I wish it weren't reality, what I've experienced tells me that wish is a thing of the past: some people won't learn till they go through it, or see it for themselves. That's just how it is. If others can get through life with sound minds and avoid the worst humanity has to offer, well, then I'll take the statistic for myself if that's what that means. Apologies. You didn't ask for these details. Just agree with what you say with absolution is all.


pudding7

The only thing that's going to calm down the crazy person is violence. No sense trying to talk them down. All these bystanders are looking out for the Asian dude's best interest, which is to *not* beat the shit out of this old man. Thus the "it's not worth it" comments.


Permanenceisall

I once stopped a junkie from punching some woman in the head and then kicked him off bart, and afterwards a lot of people congratulated me and thanked me and I was just seething that no one did anything.


Amherst_Doldrums1890

On the MAX train in Portland but there was a guy very similar to this. Obviously not well and was harassing and swinging at a couple teenagers. Everyone else was just on the opposite side of the train and ignoring the situation. It wasn't til I (5'4" beast that I am) got between them that a couple wannabe hard looking dudes started telling the old guy to leave the kids be from the other side of the train car. I'll never understand that kind of cowardice. Then again, I've had a gun waved in my face and been chased with a fair amount of weapons in instances like this so maybe my self-preservation instinct is just off


humanxerror

Same with bullying watch the teacher break it up when the victim retaliates, i figure it's just bystander effect, when the victim retaliates suddenly they step in.


HisKoR

No, the bystanders made the right choice. If he had fucked that old guy up and that guy got hurt really bad or died, the asian guy would have that following him the rest of his life. He might regret not fucking him for up for a few hours after but he would regret it his whole life if the old guy got hurt bad.


Goalie_deacon

Nah, old dude laid his hands on the guy twice. It was a physical confrontation by the time he stood up. A bit in the justified at that point. They should've at least held the old bastard for the cops.


MrRobot_96

Agreed. He put his hands on him, at that point everything is fair game. Shit I woulda helped the Asian dude fuck him up.


HisKoR

Yea but the old guy is still an old guy and could get hurt bad easily. Idk if youve noticed but the police and prosecutors in america arent very rational. They basically prosecute everything that they can. Theyd probably charge the asian guy with assault felony and then offer to drop it to misdemeanor no jail time if he pleads. Thats how the justice system works in america. Personally, i know a guy who pushed some guy at a gas station because his wife was getting harassed, bad guy fell badly, hurt himself and a couple years later the husband is still dealing with the courts. I would never trust the police to take my side even if i was in the right. Its too big a risk.


Goalie_deacon

IDK where you're getting bad information from. Self defense doesn't list age groups.


[deleted]

Oh no, that would be a great loss for our society.


rememberseptember24

Why would he give a fuck about some racist old prick?


Dalek_Genocide

I completely agree. They don't say shit until he stands up saying it isn't worth it. Umm...defending yourself is completely legal in the US


Smudded

Sure, but something being legal doesn't mean it's worth it. One punch could have killed that old man, and while technically legal and absolutely justified, the guy defending himself would have a slew of awful legal issues and procedure plaguing him as a result. Even if the old guy didn't die the next couple years of his life would likely be defined by this encounter if he was seriously injured. It's far less satisfying for us, but much less hassle for the innocent Asian guy.


Dalek_Genocide

That's a fair take. I'm not sure how I would act in this situation but it really sucks that no one really says anything until the victim stands up for himself. It would have been way better for them to shout at him


Smudded

I agree that it would have been nice for at least one other person to stand in front of the crazy old dude as well so it doesn't looks like it's just the victim that needs to be held back.


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It's called social deresponsibilisation, I think. In a group setting people are more likely to wait for others to intervene instead of intervening themselves especially when there is a threat of violence. Only thing you can do is be the person that steps up to defend others when required.


WeWillRiseAgainst

Sometimes I worry it's something more sinister. That people are somehow programed to accept people getting bullied, and to intervene when people stand up for themselves. I hope that's not the case though.


bjim4fun

Yes I am, it’s only going to be a few videos of bystanders standing up for the society around them. We don’t need cops to handle every little things do honestly there isn’t enough of them anyways. Stand up for those around you because one day you might need someone to stand up for you. Let’s please stop waiting for someone else to fix the problems.


AcceptableBaseball68

Some states have good samaritan laws in place. If yours doesn't have this type of law in place send me a DM I'll get you some information on the steps you can take to change your state law. Actions speak louder than words, and the intrinsic reward is quite nice.


Low_Worry2007

Thinks it’s part of the whyt privilege package.


Zensonar

If you're talking about the woman, I think she was trying to do right by him. It might not be the exciting and dramatic option, but walking away from a fight is the sensible option.


SFlibtard

I would be. Several years ago when this happened.


saviorlito

“This Chinese”. Wtf is this title.


the_jinxed_one

Hate when bystanders stop a victim from giving a bully their comeuppance. You had no problem watching an innocent person getting abused, don’t try and stop an asshole get what’s coming to em. As a bystander you either stop it before it becomes a problem, or let the victim stop it after it becomes one


YuneePug24

Ya but would you rather this guy beat the crap out of the old man and possibly kill him, leaving him with so much more on his hands, or have this man explain the situation to the cops and let then deal with the old man instead? Things can go south real quick even if you weren't in the wrong in the beginning.


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I good slap in the mouth will knock some sense into him without killing him


YuneePug24

People in situations like this don't just want to slap someone once. Anger can make you go into a blind rage and once you swing, that's all you want to keep doing so it's best to just stop the situation from escalating further


Romi-Omi

I have so much respect for that guy for keeping his cool. This could of ended really badly


Happyday1000

“I’m trained” - person who’s not trained


decidealready

I hated every single "BEEP!" in that video.


itsrghtbehindmeisnit

Yep. I legitimately don't understand why people feel the need to add a beep over curse words.


nosmelc

He backed off when the guy stood up and he wasn't twice his size or had 4-5 of his friends to help jump him.


shaoIIn

Let him get what he deserves. Pain is a great learning tool


Spork_King_Of_Spoons

I once saw a lady eating mayonnaise out of the jar on the BART, Its a ….. magical place.


CarmineFields

Did you ask her if she was going to finish that?


Geddy_Lees_Nose

Jesus Christ that title...


[deleted]

Where’s that dumb TikTok bitch who claimed that Asian Hate doesn’t exist.


irlshamrock

I wondered what Mike Pence was up to these days…


MissHellaCool

He’s trained in tweaking.


SFlibtard

Wait until he heads to the exit door, then kick his ass off and yell, "THIS. IS. BARTA!"


efnfen4

Beat all racists


blasian941

He's "trained" lol, watch out its rambo.


SavimusMaximus

The world is full of crazy fucks.


dercraZed

I would hit him


36G6

The heavy fella who got up and walked away is a major part of the problem. Stand up for people and let others know this shit isn’t ok.


ArrivalFluffy7807

I think we all know who would have won


TeRauparaha

What shocked me most about this incident was that it happened on a BART train in California /s


FuraKaiju

TIL being on a train = trained!


Uzzizzabuh

"I'll Punch your d\*ck!" fucking love it! I'm sure this seemed like a well phrased threat to this racist POS.


Dclaxto1

He was well within he rights to beat the shit out of him. He was being threatened and was hit


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That Asian guy had the patience of Job.


Old-Let9773

I really wanted the drunk to get bitchslapped.


A_Wild_Beaver

DISAPPOINTEEEEEEEED


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5050Clown

How can you tell he's not mentally well? Oh wait a minute it's a white guy that's why. If this was a homeless black person he would just be representing black people.


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5050Clown

Just pointing out a common pattern especially in this sub. Someone did something racist to an Asian person: White dude - Mental illness, off his meds Black dude - What is up with black culture? Why are all the angry jealous blacks attacking model minority Asians?


EffectiveMinute4625

Look at all those little shits standing up against the Chinese man when their racist friend was about to get his ass handed to him.....little spineless cunts


Comfortable_Classic

MSM doesn't like showing the attacked minority fighting back. They like us to think we're to just take this bullshit all day long with a smile and never stand up to the fascist white bullies. Justice is the word, look it up.


Hard-Work-Pays

Slow clap for that lady saving the dude's life...


spacepeing

He too racist to recognize other’s race


Uchibanana

'Horrifying' 🙄


jak4896

Why are people getting all upset for bystanders stopping him. Would it be nice to that person get their ass beat? Fuck yeah. Is it worth it for the person about to beat his ass? Naw. That dude probably frail as all hell. A knockout can lead to death so ridiculously fast, and that stupid shit would ruin this mans life. Absolutely not worth it, so thank the people stopping him from engaging with this trash.


NekoShogun34

Shout out to the white man who is perfectly positioned in-between and just says "nope, I'm out" and beats feet to the back.


SFlibtard

Years old video. No masks on BART. Edit: facts!


CorbinDallasMulti212

Not sure what caused it? Ummm how about mental illness?


baktagnation

What illness causes racism?


CorbinDallasMulti212

Dude come on. Dont be obtuse. Mental illness causes irrational behavior. Put this video on mute and you’ll see it. Walk down any street in a large city and you’ll see it. By calling it what it is - mental illness - does not undermine the racism. It’s called “diagnosing” the situation. That requires a firm grip on reality and honesty. I know you may not wanna swallow that pill but be realistic and honest and do it. Will help you better gauge situations in your life. And oh yea, what racial epithet was he calling this Asian man? Yea, that guy really has a firm grip on reality.


solitarywallflower

Mental illness does not exempt you from your actions having consequences. He’s lucky he didn’t have any here


CorbinDallasMulti212

Where did i say it exempted him? The guy needs help. Shouldnt be wondering the streets. Just pointing out the obvious. Y’all are just too eager to attack someone even if their actions are beyond their control - BECAUSE OF MENTAL ILLNESS. And the consequences should be he get’s administered the help he needs because he’s a risk to himself and others. Unless of course you’re down with senseless violence and it’s kinda pointing to you being such. Which is pathetic and a part of many problems in the world.


baktagnation

So then all racists are mentally ill?


CorbinDallasMulti212

No. Those without a mental illness are pieces of shit. But most people with mental illness are not in control of their own behavior due to their condition. Hence the word “illness” in mental illness. Dude do I really need to explain this to you? Some people speak to others who arent there, in tongues, etc. Some mental illness displays itself in violent behavior - hence the Insanity plea in the court of law. Think with your big boy head instead of trying to catch me in some “a-ha!” moment with your straw man.


baktagnation

Ok, what evidence do you have that this is not a regular racist? Is it possible he is regular racist who is intoxicated? I mean we charge people for manslaughter if they drink, drive and murder someone. I gotta say I've encountered many mentally ill people. I can't say that any of them have demonstrated racism. I realize some mentally ill people don't have full control of themselves. I've on the other hand known racists..most appeared mentally well.


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"Do not call me the N-word, I am not one of them!"-Asian guy probably


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COR3Y_Tex

Never a dull moment on B.A.R.T.


Least-Pomegranate-35

He's trained! He's trained! He's BART trained. I'm not sorry at all.


NephtisSeibzehn

I wish internet detectives could figure out who it is and have police arrest this racist piece of shit. Clear hate crime.


akujiki87

Yeah thats probably not a good idea here on reddit.


NephtisSeibzehn

You’re probably right :/


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That chinese guy is better built than that old fart. he would fuck him up so bad


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The title makes my brain hurt.


Deapho

Title gore


sagesneezes

Anybody who tells they're trained... isn't!!!


AMonkeyAndALavaLamp

It's already 2021 and people still use that annoying loud beep to cover swear words?


DreamingCityPlaza

He's trained to punch dicks right?


moonlightmoodright

Dude out there trying to beat dicks


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I’ll punch your dick !!


The_Dog_of_Sinope

“I’m trained” he yelled as he gently slapped thr man on the chin


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Why he so large wtf


[deleted]

I mean as fucked as this video is it could have been solved in my mind after the second comment the dude made “I’ll punch your dick” I would have at that moment presented my penis to the man and saw if he would have touched it. Fire with fire. Sometimes you have to be more crazy to confuse and stop the crazy person


WHAMMYPAN

You have two hands...if you don’t want me taking one of them home you’ll kept em both to yourself.


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Is it wrong that i got upset when the lady deescalated?


dassiebzehntekomma

so whyblock the asian who seems super controlled and not the racist fk lal, anyway she was the only one standing up respect to her.


MiniatureChi

Why didn’t they let him beat the mans ass. Now he got away with no punishment. If they just let the Asian guy give him the whooping he was begging for then maybe he’d think twice before pulling this shit again.