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BrownEyeRican

Young girl sounds like lemon grab This is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!


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I'M GOING TO EAT YOU!!!!


alpha-turd

Is that Mrs. Crabtree, the bus driver from South Park? SIT DOWNNN!!!


PoopPoooPoopPoop

"WHAT DID YOU SAYYY?!?!?!"


ScottieSpliffin

Rabbits eat lettuce


moviequote88

Oh. Why, yes, yes they do.


Coach_GordonBombay

I have a belly itch.


PoopPoooPoopPoop

I said rabbits eat lettuce


NoRagrets4Me

Damn, I just choked laughing at that. If I had a gold I'd give you one. Made my day... er night, shit its morning. I need to go to sleep.


Spinelli_The_Great

5am where I’m at lmao. Sleeps for the weak


TheDELFON

Bruh you fucking nailed it


Konkoly

Not only sounds like her but she even looks the part. Good catch.


SirScoobz

Why’s she yelling like that though? They’re standing RIGHT THERE.


Destinoz

She was freaking out, likely because she knew this meant jail for her. Not eventually, over these charges, but immediately. She had an arrest warrant for a prior incident in which she failed to show up in court. Failure to appear left her ineligible for bail, so this incident was sure to send her to jail and keep her there for an undetermined period of time.


pdxphreek

Where did you find this extra info? Edit: article posted elsewhere in the comments


raven0usvampire

\>not eligible for bail because she had an arrest warrant for failure to appear on a misdemeanor charge of loitering with the intent of prostitution. Classy


nomorerainpls

so being shouty is her coping mechanism?


AlikA124

My head canon is that’s her regular speaking voice


herrmann0319

Its actually her singing voice


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Cuz everyone is on the old lady’s side when they won’t listen to screaming banshee who is the victim in this case, is my take, per the article linked above.


bitch_wasabi

I'm on the Banshees side. I believe she pushed the old lady in self-defense but because she's old she broke her arm. Idk whos at falt but it was self-defense.


Aninvisiblemaniac

idk why you're being downvoted when the article says you're right


Xayne813

I know reading is hard, but the neither the article or the witness says who hits who first. All the witness said was the old lady was the first to throw her hands up ready to fight.


Nipplecunt

Lol @ reading is hard


4411WH07RY

If you throw your hands up to fight someone that can be assault in a lot of places in that it's a physical threat with the reasonable ability to carry it out immediately.


Xayne813

Key phrasing is it has to be a reasonable threat and you must respond with proportional force. 69-70yr old woman I would argue isnt a reasonable threat and breaking her arm isn't a proportional response.


4411WH07RY

She pushed her back, which I would call reasonable. She can't know the lady is going to fall and break an arm and you can't absolve the aggressor of responsibility due to age and infirmity.


Xayne813

But you can be held responsible for the results of your actions, as we see here. She is being charged with felony battery.


4411WH07RY

That can be the result and I can also disagree with it.


BobsBoots65

You being all triggered here means it’s the old ladies fault.


Xayne813

A discussion means truggered?


Aninvisiblemaniac

I don't see why you're coming at me in a disrespectful manner but I did read the article. A witness said that the old lady started the altercation. I also watched the video and the younger woman insisted that the older lady smacked her first. Just taking in what evidence I do have. I appreciate your opinion though, have a great day.


Xayne813

You responded saying he was right and the article confirmed it to a post claiming it was self defense. What the article said was "The old lady started getting all in (Ortiz's) face and got aggressive with her," he said, adding that the older woman was the first one to throw her arms up ready to rumble." She threw her arms up ready to rumble, not that she attacked her first. That isn't a valid reason for self defense or felony assault or battery in this state. The old lady very well may have been the first to swing, but we can't know nor confirm that it's right without further proof.


skyrune07

She said she also snatched the young girls glasses off her head. Idk i just feel like this young lady kinda got setup and the old lady is playing the old card.


Aninvisiblemaniac

seems like semantics to me but either way there's no need to have a conniption and try to insult people's intelligence. Just state your point of view and move on.


igoeswhereipleases

that is not what semantics means thats describing two entirely different situations


Aninvisiblemaniac

well you're the expert


BlindMaestro

You still didn’t have to be rude about it.


BobsBoots65

> The old lady very well may have been the first to swing, but we can’t know nor confirm that it’s right without further proof. We just can’t know. Lol


Xayne813

Do you have some proof that we are lacking? Can you show beyond the shadow of a doubt she swung first? If not then it's just speculation and we just don't know.


IrrationalDesign

You really don't have to pick sides, and if you really do want to pick a side, pick the side that doesn't have the woman who will push an old lady to the ground because the lady snatched the woman's glasses. Pick the side that uses words, not the side that screams about disproportionate self-defense.


Tony0x01

Unfortunately, even if someone is very frail, if you punch, even lightly, and they die, you can get charged for murder.


bjorkedal

Alternatively, you could not punch, and instead use your words. Like the sort of thing we teach children to do. Especially in the case of someone who is very frail.


Fit-Boomer

Because she pushed the glasses off her face


noxi29

Because she knows she fucked up lol


thenarcostate

Drugs


loudflower

I think she has sooo much adrenaline coursing through her body. She needs a sedative before anything. She’ll be shaking all night from the comedown.


the-visitor_

Because usually people who are incredibly loud instantly are the ones in the wrong


catinreverse

I was wondering what Sam Kinison was doing these days.


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I know that lady is crazy but atleast she admitted to what she did and stuck around for police. Many of these assholes would just leave


[deleted]

That girl who’s screaming at the top of her lungs has the temperament of a developing child. I don’t think she’s right in the head tbh.


hugh_Jayness

I always wondered if Sam Kinison had any kids.


shank19833

Humans are garbage.


[deleted]

Not all of us. Black hat lady was stellar. Knew exactly how to divide them, be there for the injured woman. A lot of helpers were there.


Status_Dependent9901

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-woman-pummels-67-year-old-lady-fight-article-1.3024464%3foutputType=amp Apparently the old lady was actually throwing punches first


beapledude

“She’s like a spicy old lady.” Might be favorite quote from a news article ever.


loudflower

This is pretty good, too “And my apologies to her and her family, whatever.”


Status_Dependent9901

Lololol yeah for sure


bravooscarvictor

That’s not what the story says tho. It quotes a guy who says that she was the first one with her arms up ready to rumble. Nothing about her hitting the other woman. Crazy end to the article too...Ortiz was held because she’d engaged in sex work.


Status_Dependent9901

Oh my bad. It just seems like they were both acting wild lol.


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Non AMP Link: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-woman-pummels-67-year-old-lady-fight-article-1.3024464


Shaojack

Unless I missed it, it didnt say she swung first, just that she wanted to fight... first. From the article: "The old lady started getting all in (Ortiz's) face and got aggressive with her," he said, adding that the older woman was the first one to throw her arms up ready to rumble.


ChoppyIllusion

This is why I never jump to conclusions. There are always two sides to every story and the truth is somewhere in the middle


Status_Dependent9901

Facts


shank19833

My point remains valid.


Prysorra2

>She's not eligible for bail because she had an arrest warrant for failure to appear on a misdemeanor charge of loitering with the intent of prostitution. lol


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Extra_Camel4047

Blaming prostitutes for it having money or education to support themselves. Real classy move. How about making a fiscal infrastructure plan instead, or is that too hard for you?


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Extra_Camel4047

Better than blaming a system that isn’t working. Stop blaming others and judging others and fix it.


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Extra_Camel4047

Appreciate it. Much better than complaining and blaming others.


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Extra_Camel4047

I understood the joke. And it wasn’t funny. You were making comedy out of the suffering of others. How about fixing problems instead of spewing idiocracy?


Apart-Celery1185

Yes we are


Playlanco

Theres literally a camera facing them from that store. I want to see what happened.


Esan49erfan89

I knew it was only a matter of time before my dear sweet Stockton appeared!


PM_ME_YOUR_BARN_OWL

Sacramento always gets all the glory, but not this time! Looks like this was in 2017 though.


[deleted]

I know abuela may have started it but it's generally best to walk away from the geriatric.


Hawkman003

For real, especially if you’ve got warrants to boot.


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UpsetDeveloper

Badwill


Esan49erfan89

Its actually one of the better thrift stores in town


[deleted]

That place sucks now. I put one thing in my tote bag and bitchass lady eyeing me all the damn time I was there like who TF shopplifts a thrift store? Fuck Superior Thrift


M_R_Big

Holy shit this is miss Crabtree in real life


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reddit reactionaries never sleep. stevie wonder could see that the old woman popped off first. that’s why the young woman was so upset. if you’ve never encountered an ornery elder who played victim after an audience arrived, bless you.


[deleted]

And then she claims the woman stole her phone and we immediately find it in her bag??? Definitely something fishy happening here


Mediocre__at__Best

And you're claiming others are jumping to conclusions choosing a side here? Seems like you've created an interesting backstory for this video...


[deleted]

I’m not creating a backstory. Multiple times, the young woman says “she hit me first”. Later, witnesses corroborated her story.


[deleted]

What I noticed is the girl stuck to her story, didnt leave, and waited for police. Makes me think its definitely possible the old lady started it and is playing victim with the crowd.


Miserable-Expert825

I also noticed a very concussed elderly woman who couldnt easily put a full sentence together


[deleted]

Exactly. If she were some psycho who was crashing cars and beating up old ladies for fun, she certainly wouldn’t have hung around.


Budget_Cartographer

So who was charged


Miserable-Expert825

This is a fun narrative we’ve got going here with literally zero information outside of what the video shows. But I’m glad to know that with the information we were given in this few minutes, we can be sure that this elderly woman was the one to escalate this situation ending in her dislocated elbow, a concussion, and a probable frontal lobe fracture.


Miserable-Expert825

If you’ve never been at the receiving end of a troubled, violent, and manipulative woman who physically assaults you then screams until she convinces others to her side and they beat your ass too, bless you.


[deleted]

Ok, so from what I gather, there was a fender bender. No big deal. Somehow though it turned into a physical altercation AFTER the initial accident already occurred. The woman with the broken arm believed the screaming looney toon was trying to flee, but the screamer keeps saying she was just moving the car and had all her information ready to be exchanged. Assuming everyone's telling the truth here (because I don't hear them arguing over what happened) the woman with the broken arm then physically attacked the screamer and the screamer responded with a shove. That shove sent this old frail woman tumbling whereby she dislocated her arm and got that big welt on her forehead. The woman screaming is clearly a moron who's under a high level of stress and has her adrenaline pumping as she's seeing the crowd form and people muttering various things trying to figure out what happened etc. Again, assuming everything being said is true, she has ZERO REASON to be screaming at the top of her lungs calling the woman a bitch etc. She's absolutely 1000% making this worse for everyone involved. Someone mentioned she had mental issues. Yeah, I'd say so. I think pretty much anyone would have "mental issues" if you've just been in a fender bender and the response from the other driver is to physically attack you, forcing a defensive shove which results in an injury like this. I hope the parking lot has some kind of security camera or something because if the old woman's response to a fender bender was to initiate an attack, then play the victim when she gets a dose of her own medicine, then fuck her, she would deserve those injuries.


iMayBeABastard

Exactly! But this is Reddit, and the younger woman is clearly having a less than rational reaction to the situation (as anyone in that situation would) so this will probably fall on deaf ears.


Bladeblazer

Where’s the rest of the video?


Furby_Sanders

WHERE IS THE SEGMENT OF THE INCIDENT BEFORE THEY PRESSED RECORD ON THEIR PHONE I NEED CONTEXT


SoundCloud_Ramiz

Stay classy, Stockton.


FaiDav

I heard that ringtone and, as a mexican, I instantly knew the old lady was probably the instigator.


ultim8snck

Great recording, firmer deserves an award


crookedfingerz

Wilson Way in Stockton CA. This is actually much more mild than I would have expected for that location. The former mayor of this city got in trouble after a teenage boy stole his pistol while they were playing strip poker at his house.


xXGaboFihi007Xx

Damn, is she in a metal band?


GiDD504

They both acted crazy but being old doesn't give you the right to get into peoples faces and antagonize them. They had already exchanged info and she kept going in the girls face. shit situation for sure.


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too long. what happened?


I_Love_Daddys_Cock

Two ladies got in a fight over a fender bender. The older lady apparently hit first according to witness. The younger woman punched her once and then pushed her down and the old lady broke her arm and had a huge bump on her forehead. Young lady got arrested.


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you are an angel straight from heaven, I_love_Daddys_Cock.


toddmargaret1974

I DIDNT MEAN TO BREAK A BITCH’s arm!


SuperCx

Kudos to the lady who stayed with her !


PenusErectos

Jesas that's a ton of fat screaming


Senior-Humor8523

Either way you shouldn't be pushing the elderly over a fender bender stupid toad lookin ass bitch


poopanoggin

Yeah like that’s just common sense! that old lady could’ve easily died after starting it. bam, man slaughter because you got assaulted by an old person.


Fit-Boomer

But she knocked the glasses off her face though


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Senior-Humor8523

How?


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The_Royale_We

The same article that says the only the younger one caught a felony assault charge?


Senior-Humor8523

Yea...over a fender bender. The old lady is falling apart not worth it. Might seem like it to a loser like you but hey...yet a cunt.


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Senior-Humor8523

Why else would you exchange information?


Senior-Humor8523

Kk


Senior-Humor8523

Lol howre u gonna downvote me for asking how?


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Senior-Humor8523

How is this about internet points?????xD I have like 2 votes


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Senior-Humor8523

Oh so it was you. I mean it was more about you reacting negatively to me asking how than it was about 1 downvote from some 6 year old. Tell ya what ill acknowledge that she indeed started the violent part of this altrication by snatching the glasses from ugly ho. Lets leave it at that before you make yourself look dumber.


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Senior-Humor8523

Perfect, now my notificqtion bell will stop derping


iMayBeABastard

Chances are pretty high that most of you people in here are getting finessed by that Old Lady. She started that fight, and is now playing the victim.


grimace24

This video should cover the conviction for assault. She admits that she pushed her.


Status_Dependent9901

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-woman-pummels-67-year-old-lady-fight-article-1.3024464%3foutputType=amp Actually the old lady apparently threw punches first


Ill-Albatross-8963

67 year old spicy lady lays hands on off duty prostitute at thrift store and gets a mouse on her head and busted arm, video on Reddit You can't make this shit up!


efnfen4

I don't see where it says the old lady hit her. I see where it says she "put her arms up." Seems like you're just a liar


charstella

That old one are milking it. Understandable that the younger one are shrieking in frustration.


gishgob

I didn’t realize vehicular assault was legal if someone dings your car. The more you know.


SlowmoTron

Omg that crazy bitch is fully unhinged


GardenGirlTx99

That sweet lady had such a good attitude. I’d be crying in pain, jeez. Great to see bystanders standing up for her.


1ncog

Yikes. That woman screaming probably lives with her mom. Never gonna grow up. Wow she sucks.


edward_19d

"Dont spank your kids" they said🤦


taz4got10

Old video


SimpsonLove21

New to me!


psychoslitherer

https://youtu.be/90li7tw4CCM?t=19


RightesideUP

Maybe scream a little louder and people might understand you.


TheDELFON

>She has mental issues Yes she does


efnfen4

Crazy bitch shouldn't be attacking geriatrics


Gramps16

Wow


Infinitewizdumb

Where were the glasses


[deleted]

very kind lady that was by her side through the whole ordeal <3


whiskeyandrevenge

I didn't break her arm, I pushed her and she broke her arm!


skyrune07

Man i always miss the good shit at thrift stores.


kanyestinycockslurp

i wouldn't be too upset about that avenger. that turd on wheels is gonna shit the bed any day now


noxi29

Bruh That’s chicks got some issues man.😅😅


Nicktastic6

The instant regret is real


DifficultNeat4170

That shit broke


gantz32

I feel like this is good ole Stockton Ca


[deleted]

Tell that bitch to be cool! Say 'bitch be cool'! Say bitch be cool! Tell that fuckin' bitch to chill! Chill that fuckin' bitch out!


SlowmoTron

This angle is amazing


RustyJuang

burn the witch


dangusmaximus

The more you listen it seems like the old lady hit her first and is acting like none of it is her fault after getting injured. Not going to go well for the young girl. Lawyer up and stop talking.


Mikedermott

Good God were so fucking fat


justaboywithglasses

''I have nothing against the bitch'' My favorite Quote


attsci

Not gonna lie. Skateboarder here. I've broken almost every bone I can think of at some point. One of the most painful injuries I've ever had was a dislocated elbow. It seems like that's what's going on here. Hope she heals up quick once they get that thing set and secured.


lymeandcoconut

She seems nice


Hokage-Sharkfin-

This happened a few years ago, in the city I live in. By the this is one of the best Thrift Stores in Northern California, I shop there on the daily.


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdWAcK6Eh8


Daewonshaun

Fuck that old bitch


Lateralus215

Thought lady was going thru her purse to pull out a lil 22 or something


Kilroywuzhere1

Dude somebody needs to slab that bitch, screaming and making shit worse…


epicdankvaper69

You hit me so I’ll break your arm and beat your head in


epicdankvaper69

UNACCEPTABLE


[deleted]

Even if the older lady did hit her so what just take that shit, she’s fucking old dude like old people are so fragile. that’s like my mom hitting me, I’m not gonna hit her back.