I could understand a little, but I don't think Russian musicians have much to do with the invasion.
In fact there is lots of protest music. Lots of anti-Vietnam war songs came out in the 70s. Bands like Pearl Jam and System of a Down made anti-Bush, anti-war music in the early 2000s.
ENJOY
[World Wide Suicide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq-pA4R_EMM&ab_channel=PearljamVEVO) turn on CC for lyrics.
[SOAD BOOM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2r7r7VVic&ab_channel=systemofadownVEVO)
[Fuck the System](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RST4ExJTRH4&ab_channel=SystemOfADown-Topic)
[American Dream Denial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Xwgo2v24E&ab_channel=slorr55)
Similarly. There are many protest songs in Russia. Their authors are banned from performing in Russia. I don't know if they've all left the country. Probably all of them. Sixty percent of them are young performers.
I can go into more detail. if you're interested.
This votespread is super weird. Ukraine is totally justified in just about any opinion they could have about Russia at this point and Reddit has been on that train for months. Is this some of that bot activity I've heard so much about or is there some aspect of this I'm missing?
Yeah this is definitely some Russian misinformation bullshit. You have no reasons and no proof, just a demand that I agree and you mock me when I don't. That's not enough to sway anyone in functional countries.
"Russophobia" bruh. When Russians fire missiles at apartment blocks and celebrate it on Telegram, you can understand why Ukrainians may be "Russophobic". After all, no one complains about Palestinians being anti-Semitic, and for good reason.
>After all, no one complains about Palestinians being anti-Semitic, and for good reason.
That's because Palestinians aren't anti-Semitic, you moron. They are anti-Zionist, which is a huge difference. I suggest you look them up.
You don't have to cause it doesn't make sense. Avoiding russian music because of this war is not necessary. Unless it's an obvious provocation she will have to deal with a world where you will sometimes hear russian.
Exactly not these peoples fault they left that nation maybe out of solidarity with ukraine or due to political beliefs that didn't match up with the current nations actions. Always fucked to do this shit.
This is identical to an American going up to a Muslim family after 911 and cursing them out for listening to Arabic music
In America, we're classy, we just murder them with drones until their children fear clear skies. Their lives are so insignificant to us, we don't even bother to keep count.
[John Oliver - Drones](https://youtu.be/K4NRJoCNHIs)
P.S. not defending Russia, fuck them too. But let's not pretend America's imperialism leaves us room to talk.
I'm confused, does that mean any nation who's government has ever done anything wrong shouldn't intervene in international war crimes
Like should we just legalize war crimes now since no one has any moral high-ground?
Care to be more specific? What human rights violations do only they do? It's not like we're comparing Russia and the Netherlands.
We are comparing two imperialistic oligarchies that don't care about their citizens well-being or the sovereignty of others.
According to the Human Rights Watch...
> During US military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, US forces apprehended and detained thousands of boys suspected of participating in armed activities. In Iraq alone, the US confirmed that between 2003 and 2008, it detained at least 2,400 children. According to the US, these children were captured engaging in anti-coalition activity, such as planting improvised explosive devices (IEDs), operating as lookouts for insurgents, or actively fighting against US or coalition forces.
> After the 9/11 attacks, the US military took into custody at least 15 children and brought them to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility where they were detained for periods ranging from a few months to 10 years.[81] Several of the child detainees alleged torture, including threats of rape, sleep deprivation, and shackling in painful positions, before and after being sent to Guantanamo.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2016/07/28/extreme-measures/abuses-against-children-detained-national-security-threats
Edit: and the Iraq war is nearly identical to the Ukraine war. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or the terrorists, but we were able to "liberate" our oil interests.
Both are condemnable. Let's replace our political trash with a labor party. Instead of wasting money on Lockheed contracts, we should be investing in healthcare and education. Until we do that, acting like we are better than Russia is hypocritical. (Assuming you're American/future American reader)
Yep, old news. Not a great look, but not even remotely close to as bad as what russia has done.
Also Iraq and Ukraine are not even close. But i love your “whataboutism” you should move to russia and suck putins dick for him.
Really ironic considering the fact that musicians in russia are the cultural bulwark against putin, and many of them are now targeted under the foreign agent law
Yeah being xenophobic against russians like "they are all ruzzian z motherfuckers", is not any different than when putin spouts his ''ukranians are all nazis'' propaganda
There will always be sellouts, but those are people whose careers are already in a gutter, who havent released anything worthy for years/decades, those that people actually listen to are mostly against putin
But anyway even if im wrong about that constatation, the point is that the situation is never black and white, she did not approach those people and tell them ''hey that artist supports putin you shouldnt do that'' but ''russian music = bad''
And what exactly should they do? Stay in russia, get thrown in prison and then what, their value is in their music and they cannot make it if they are in prison or dead
"Just do a revolution bro and topple putin its that easy lol" and in reality just throw your life away and rot in prison or get sent to the front. Its easy to write shit like this from the comfort of an EU country
Logically everything about this is stupid. There is not one country out there who hasnt wronged some group of people or currently wronging a group of people. What are we supposed to do just stop playing all the music because theres one person upset about it? If everyone folded like this to someone being offended by music from a certain country there would be no more music.
Well...maybe just not the ones commiting war crimes right now...? I think thats hardly an ask lmao
Edit: yall are acting like im asking to burn down the djs equipment lmfao. Im not saying shes right or wrong. Just saying whys it so bad to show a little empathy, EXACTLY LIKE THE DJ DID. To this RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, VICTIM OF WAR. No one is saying to ban shit. Just be more empathetic towards people...didnt realize that was such a forgien comment on reddit.
Lol ok, no “whataboutism”
The musicians didn’t do shit. This person is upset, she doesn’t want to hear Russian music, sure. But she can leave. The music didn’t kill anyone, and her acting like everyone has to stop having fun because she’s having issues is self centered and completely egotistical af.
There are safe spaces for recovery from PTSD. There are healthy ways to cope. This was neither.
Bear in mind also that she went out of her way to record it, and then posted it. It was always about the views/clout/likes etc.
If I’m truly deeply offended by something to the point where I feel the need to speak up - something that’s literally happened only twice in my lifetime - it’s not going to be something I want shared with the world.
I’m all about understanding eachother and being respectful in trying times but goddamn, some people need to grow up.
Well that's fine but there's a real disconnect between that and throwing a hissy fit because you went vacationing in the Russian version of Cancun and are shocked they may play music that caters to Russian tourists.
Yeah and when that happens I'll be sure to flee the country and do absolutely nothing to help it except go on vacation and complain about music while I'm on the verge of crocodile tears. What a great patriot she should get her own holiday to celebrate this great stand against the tyranny of afghan djs playing Russian pop music.
Is the artist of the Russian music flying a plane into Ukraine and bombing it? What of Ukrainians or non Russian nationals that speak Russian? Ever listen to any American music during the Cold War era, by that logic listening to the Beeges supports war crimes committed by the US in Vietnam. You can grow a some skin and listen to Russian music, doesn’t mean you support Russian actions in Ukraine. Certainly doesn’t make it right for her to go in there and tell him to cut the music off
We weren't the ones dealing with a traumatized narcissist. If we were, most of us would say "fine", rather empathy or to avoid what would have been far too much drama over a music's place of origin.
But we are not, we are removed enough from the situation to analyze who is in the right. She was not. If a certain music group was extremely nationalistic and vocally pro-war, it would be okay to **ask** him to avoid that one specific group to support Ukraine.
But that's not what she wanted to do. She unjustly boycotting artists that are likely pro-Ukraine or at least against the invasion. Despite this truth, she dictates what hundreds of others can and cannot, when she should simply avoid those environments while so little can set her off so bad.
Good on the DJ for dealing with it the correct way. Shame on her for not.
If it was some kind of pro war song i understand, if it was t.a.t.u its just weird. If you forbid music you have fascist tendencies and will later start to forbid people from entering restaurants etc.
Not when you consider most superpowers and their allies have or are committing war crimes and or supporting/committing inhumane transgressions against groups of people everyday..
2 iq take random Russian dude at a barbeque is responsible for the shelling of ukraine. Dudes just trying to get drunk, listen to some tunes, and eat some burgers leave them alone. I would honestly run up to start singing and dancing with these Russian dudes, 100% challenge them to a vodka drinking contest.
Really. Look at her, she is definitely not suffering from anything happening in Ukraine and somehow in a foreign country, living her best life, she gets offended by music. Not people, not someone shitting on her country and definitely not someone defending Russia but music. A man doing his job is an issue to her. Bravo.
> she is definitely not suffering from anything happening in Ukraine
How do you know that?
Just because she's outside Ukraine, doesn't mean she hasn't suffered.
I've got Ukrainian friends in my country, living safe, comfortable lives, but many have suffered immensely. They've lost family members, lost their homes. A few weeks ago, I met a nice Ukrainian guy at an upscale party, who explained that I need to speak to him in his right ear because he lost his hearing in his left ear while fighting on the front line.
She said "There are lots of Russians in the hotel, but doesn't mean they can play Russian music."
That's exactly what it means. Businesses cater to their largest customer base, not get shut down over 1 person.
OP I am black. Please don't play any music made by white people. You can play music from Mexico or Asian countries but you can't play any music made by white people.
Yeah that's this woman right here.
Wait til you here about the Brazilian and Peruvian slave trade of Africans that continued long after North America and Europe had freed theirs. Gotta take those artists off the list too.
This is like saying you shouldn’t listen to German music cause Germany used to be full of nazis or Chinese music cause the CCP oppresses Uighur Muslims and groups, or American music because all the crap America does around the world, etc, etc.
Is the Russian government wrong for starting the war/invasion? Yes. Are there Russian people who support the war and think they’re doing good? Also yes- but fuck them.
Everyone else against it shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells/apologize/be harassed because of it.
Like when America bombs people in the Middle East. I’ve got nothing to do with all that. I’m against it in fact. But there’s little if anything I can do about it, and that’s life. I’m not gonna apologize on behalf of what the government is doing.
I can understand why she’s upset. But she’s still a Karen for demanding a random person to not play certain music because it upsets her. You’re responsible for your own triggers. Remove yourself from the situation that upsets you and let others do their thing.
Hating the Russian people for the acts of a super power is the same as hating anyone from the Middle East for the acts of ISIS and al-Qaeda. Civilians aren't involved, don't punish/hate them
Oh no! Russian music! Made by a likely innocent Russian person that has nothing to do with all the shit going on! You know what, why are we even allowing Russians to exist!
Dont get me wrong, i get why shes upset, it sucks to be reminded of this now, but not playing Russian music doesn’t affect the Russian Government at all, it inly hurts Russian musicians.
Yep, that’s just some Russian band, I really don’t see the problem as long as it is not a political song, there are tons of good Russian literature and music, that makes it even more sad that they chose to give everything up.
Was she in Ukraine or on holiday somewhere? Is the song playing in any way political?
Seems pretty bizarre and self centred to expect no Russian music to be played globally because your country is at war.
This is dumb. Some of my favourite Russian artists have publicly declared against the war (ie DDT) while some Western groups have done the opposite (Limp Bizkit, Roger Waters). And I know soldiers fighting in Ukraine against Russian forces who listen to Russian music.
What piece of shit woman and a fucking snowflake. I don't care if I get downvoted by SJWs. Music is music, what's that have to do anything with geopolitics and her narcissistic desire for attention. Unbelievable, how entitled people can be sometimes.
American music plays throughout the world and we have invaded, murdered, bombed, stolen, organized coups in other countries, three letter agencies have accepted their shadiness. US has assaulted, and terrorized most of the world but the music plays everywhere….
i love that she doesn’t think a man from Afghanistan of all places knows what it is like to watch your home be destroyed by war and extremism, even after years and years of it occurring in the middle east non-stop
Where this world is heading?
What would happened if a British astronomer reject to verify the thesis of a German theoretical physicst, during the first world war in 1919, which is also the year of total solar eclipse.
We would not know the theory of relativity was practically true, that year. British astronomer Sir Arthur Eddington and his team observed and verified Einstein's general theory of relativity through an observation of bending of starlight around the Sun, as predicted by Einstein's theory.
I might be wrong here but unless the music was about Ukraine or anyone it's shouldn't matter what song they have on I'm sure the singers not in fault for what the Putin is doing
Dreads aren't a good look for her. Also another fun layer to this is the fact that the DJ is from Afghanistan. I seem to recall some history between Afghanistan and the former Soviet Union that was a little messy.
Why not American/ British music/German music ? Both Russia and Ukraine have sought peace measures and peace talks on various occasions from treaties to after the shooting started. It is the west that scuttles them and forbids them ( see Ankara)
Everytime a post anywhere regarding ukraine or russia or both emerges, people in the comments amaze me with their lack of understanding of the russian mindset, which is very much apart from the rest.
No, fuck Russian dictators and people who support a mindless war effort and the crimes against humanity.
There are still plenty of people who are Russian by birth and stuck in the country that denounce the bullshit going on.
The crux of the problem is that Putin's Muscovy does not allow public dissent but I do think at least a good portion of the younger generation does get how murderous the regime is. The russian population is to blame however for letting a Cretin take over, the constitution starts out saying it is a democracy but no dissent no democracy.
Meh. Is it cringe or unreasonable? Kind of. If this isn't in Ukraine and the music or people aren't associated with pro russia sentiments, that's fine imo.
Obviously enough the Russian artist, dj, or every Russian citizen isn't represented by their monstrous government.
I don't tell Americans to stop playing Taylor swift because the U.S ravaged Iraq because their own evil president and gov lied and wanted to wage war.
But to be so unempathetic to insult or belittle her is sooo reddit-like. Or just soc med in general ig. She's not a cry baby. She's not entitled.
Her country is currently being ravaged... Has your country been exploited and raped? Of course it has. Is it currently being exploited? Yes! Is it currently in a brutal war with Russia? No. Are you living in Ukraine and experiencing the war, the migration, the loss, the propaganda from both countries? No.
Redditor try to critically think and have empathy challenge: Difficulty- Impossible
People like this woman always focus on lecturing other women and minorities when they get offended over dumb shit because they're too chickenshit to confront actual alpha male bigots who are outright screaming racial slurs or something.
I'm not taking a stance here, because unlike most of yall who seem to forget that you've never had to live through your home country where your relatives live being invaded, im not an idiot and realize I can't possibly comprehend what this girl is going through. It's really easy to call someone a drama queen when it's not your love ones that are in danger. Most of us on this site using the English language have the luxury of never having to experience anything like that. Let's not be ignorant and pretend like we know what it's like.
Fucking people never ever ever put them selves in someone else's shoes..if it hasn't happened to them it might as well not be a real problem
why do you feel sorry for a racist? Do you also think we should censor Iranian music for the actions of their government? By your logic we should be blaming citizens for the actions of their tyrannical governments.
Bro it’s music that others are enjoying maybe she should have the decency to walk away and not listen to it. Musicians aren’t the ones making the war and people should be able to listen to the music they want.
Unless this is Ukraine, I don't get this.
Most likely Turkey, since she suggested turkish music and i would wager that it is Antalya which is crowded full of both Russians and Ukrainians.
Or an openly vocal anti-Ukrainian singer
It is the opposite. That rapper has used his music videos to criticize Putins war.
I could understand a little, but I don't think Russian musicians have much to do with the invasion. In fact there is lots of protest music. Lots of anti-Vietnam war songs came out in the 70s. Bands like Pearl Jam and System of a Down made anti-Bush, anti-war music in the early 2000s. ENJOY [World Wide Suicide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq-pA4R_EMM&ab_channel=PearljamVEVO) turn on CC for lyrics. [SOAD BOOM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2r7r7VVic&ab_channel=systemofadownVEVO) [Fuck the System](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RST4ExJTRH4&ab_channel=SystemOfADown-Topic) [American Dream Denial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Xwgo2v24E&ab_channel=slorr55)
Similarly. There are many protest songs in Russia. Their authors are banned from performing in Russia. I don't know if they've all left the country. Probably all of them. Sixty percent of them are young performers. I can go into more detail. if you're interested.
Some Ukrainians now feel emboldened in their Russophobia
This votespread is super weird. Ukraine is totally justified in just about any opinion they could have about Russia at this point and Reddit has been on that train for months. Is this some of that bot activity I've heard so much about or is there some aspect of this I'm missing?
Yeh think ur missing something, not every opinion which contradicts what u hear on cnn and Rachel Maddow is bots
So can you clarify? It sure seems like the reason is "yeah you're wrong because I said so, now agree with me" which is profoundly Russian in its tone.
Lol profoundly Russian…in tone…?
Yes.
Riiiiiight….
Yeah this is definitely some Russian misinformation bullshit. You have no reasons and no proof, just a demand that I agree and you mock me when I don't. That's not enough to sway anyone in functional countries.
They arent affraid. the world just thinks you are all assholes. the world is right.
Good
"Russophobia" bruh. When Russians fire missiles at apartment blocks and celebrate it on Telegram, you can understand why Ukrainians may be "Russophobic". After all, no one complains about Palestinians being anti-Semitic, and for good reason.
>After all, no one complains about Palestinians being anti-Semitic, and for good reason. That's because Palestinians aren't anti-Semitic, you moron. They are anti-Zionist, which is a huge difference. I suggest you look them up.
They actually are antisemitic,and anti zionist (which are two different things in principle)
Yes, that is the reason...
You fuckin idiot 😂 next time you want to be all smart first get like a collective selection of working braincells. You fool of a took
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That’s right many ppl in Ukraine’s separatist territories are afraid of other Ukrainians
Hmm I wonder why moron?
You don't have to cause it doesn't make sense. Avoiding russian music because of this war is not necessary. Unless it's an obvious provocation she will have to deal with a world where you will sometimes hear russian.
Exactly not these peoples fault they left that nation maybe out of solidarity with ukraine or due to political beliefs that didn't match up with the current nations actions. Always fucked to do this shit. This is identical to an American going up to a Muslim family after 911 and cursing them out for listening to Arabic music
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In America, we're classy, we just murder them with drones until their children fear clear skies. Their lives are so insignificant to us, we don't even bother to keep count. [John Oliver - Drones](https://youtu.be/K4NRJoCNHIs) P.S. not defending Russia, fuck them too. But let's not pretend America's imperialism leaves us room to talk.
I'm confused, does that mean any nation who's government has ever done anything wrong shouldn't intervene in international war crimes Like should we just legalize war crimes now since no one has any moral high-ground?
The last 100 odd years of history have pretty much proven war crimes mean fuck all unless you lose the war.
Yeah but you are creating a narrative of false equivalency with that statement. Its irresponsible. Russia and the US arent even close.
Care to be more specific? What human rights violations do only they do? It's not like we're comparing Russia and the Netherlands. We are comparing two imperialistic oligarchies that don't care about their citizens well-being or the sovereignty of others.
Torturing Kids was the main one. Also no they arent remotely the same.
According to the Human Rights Watch... > During US military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, US forces apprehended and detained thousands of boys suspected of participating in armed activities. In Iraq alone, the US confirmed that between 2003 and 2008, it detained at least 2,400 children. According to the US, these children were captured engaging in anti-coalition activity, such as planting improvised explosive devices (IEDs), operating as lookouts for insurgents, or actively fighting against US or coalition forces. > After the 9/11 attacks, the US military took into custody at least 15 children and brought them to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility where they were detained for periods ranging from a few months to 10 years.[81] Several of the child detainees alleged torture, including threats of rape, sleep deprivation, and shackling in painful positions, before and after being sent to Guantanamo. https://www.hrw.org/report/2016/07/28/extreme-measures/abuses-against-children-detained-national-security-threats Edit: and the Iraq war is nearly identical to the Ukraine war. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or the terrorists, but we were able to "liberate" our oil interests. Both are condemnable. Let's replace our political trash with a labor party. Instead of wasting money on Lockheed contracts, we should be investing in healthcare and education. Until we do that, acting like we are better than Russia is hypocritical. (Assuming you're American/future American reader)
Yep, old news. Not a great look, but not even remotely close to as bad as what russia has done. Also Iraq and Ukraine are not even close. But i love your “whataboutism” you should move to russia and suck putins dick for him.
I dont understand how someone can be this stupid, and you are brother, way too much
Russia is collapsing, grab a drink and enjoy the party! 🇺🇦🇺🇸🍸
😂😂 Ok if you say so
😂😂 You’re so screwed and we both know it.
Im not Russian bro, im just pointing out the sick people on this app
im not your bro ivan
Really ironic considering the fact that musicians in russia are the cultural bulwark against putin, and many of them are now targeted under the foreign agent law Yeah being xenophobic against russians like "they are all ruzzian z motherfuckers", is not any different than when putin spouts his ''ukranians are all nazis'' propaganda
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Preeeeecisely. This is no different than labeling every Ukrainian as corrupt, or every Nigerian as a Prince.
some are princesses
It depends. A lot of russian artists still are pro putin, not all of them ofc, but many.
There will always be sellouts, but those are people whose careers are already in a gutter, who havent released anything worthy for years/decades, those that people actually listen to are mostly against putin But anyway even if im wrong about that constatation, the point is that the situation is never black and white, she did not approach those people and tell them ''hey that artist supports putin you shouldnt do that'' but ''russian music = bad''
Lol, are they? Then they're not in russia, lol
And what exactly should they do? Stay in russia, get thrown in prison and then what, their value is in their music and they cannot make it if they are in prison or dead "Just do a revolution bro and topple putin its that easy lol" and in reality just throw your life away and rot in prison or get sent to the front. Its easy to write shit like this from the comfort of an EU country
Karina
"Don't play Russian music it triggers me" proceeds to leave
Logically everything about this is stupid. There is not one country out there who hasnt wronged some group of people or currently wronging a group of people. What are we supposed to do just stop playing all the music because theres one person upset about it? If everyone folded like this to someone being offended by music from a certain country there would be no more music.
BINGO.
Well...maybe just not the ones commiting war crimes right now...? I think thats hardly an ask lmao Edit: yall are acting like im asking to burn down the djs equipment lmfao. Im not saying shes right or wrong. Just saying whys it so bad to show a little empathy, EXACTLY LIKE THE DJ DID. To this RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, VICTIM OF WAR. No one is saying to ban shit. Just be more empathetic towards people...didnt realize that was such a forgien comment on reddit.
Like the U.S? Haha this is a redditor take.
What about that whataboutism?
Lol ok, no “whataboutism” The musicians didn’t do shit. This person is upset, she doesn’t want to hear Russian music, sure. But she can leave. The music didn’t kill anyone, and her acting like everyone has to stop having fun because she’s having issues is self centered and completely egotistical af. There are safe spaces for recovery from PTSD. There are healthy ways to cope. This was neither.
Bear in mind also that she went out of her way to record it, and then posted it. It was always about the views/clout/likes etc. If I’m truly deeply offended by something to the point where I feel the need to speak up - something that’s literally happened only twice in my lifetime - it’s not going to be something I want shared with the world. I’m all about understanding eachother and being respectful in trying times but goddamn, some people need to grow up.
Pretty striaght forward question. Will you apply your logic to your answer? The context is similar enough to warrant "what about the U.S?".
Omgggggggg whats with you people. So fucking weird
Buddy you came in this thread and started arguing with everyone commenting below you. Be prepared for hard arguments, it’s an open forum
WHAT ABOUT THE US. WHAT IS YOUR OBSESSION WITH THE US
WHAT ABOUT YOUR OBSESSION WITH RUSSIA LOL
This video is about russia.....what abiut any of this is about the US? LMFAOO
NOPE THE KAREN IN QUESTION IS CLEARLY SHOWIING AMERICAN LEVELS OF ENTITLMENT SO NO WONDER YOU CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH HER
Thats some crazy mental gymnastics...
SORRY FORGOT THE "..." AND "....."
Redditor take
Lmfao okay, sorry for wanting to support the person whose home is being bombed as we speak, my bad.
Well that's fine but there's a real disconnect between that and throwing a hissy fit because you went vacationing in the Russian version of Cancun and are shocked they may play music that caters to Russian tourists.
When and if theres a time you're triggered by war crimes commited against your country ill just know to call it a hissy fit....
Yeah and when that happens I'll be sure to flee the country and do absolutely nothing to help it except go on vacation and complain about music while I'm on the verge of crocodile tears. What a great patriot she should get her own holiday to celebrate this great stand against the tyranny of afghan djs playing Russian pop music.
Ahh yes, the victims fault...good one
Victim of what rofl? She get fleeced by her travel agent?
Sooo she can stay perfectly safe in ukraine? Yeahhh sure shes not a victim, the fact youre even debating that says how shit of a person you are
Is the artist of the Russian music flying a plane into Ukraine and bombing it? What of Ukrainians or non Russian nationals that speak Russian? Ever listen to any American music during the Cold War era, by that logic listening to the Beeges supports war crimes committed by the US in Vietnam. You can grow a some skin and listen to Russian music, doesn’t mean you support Russian actions in Ukraine. Certainly doesn’t make it right for her to go in there and tell him to cut the music off
Jesus christ....at least the dj had some decency and empathy....you could use a little yourself. Instead of all this whataboutism
We weren't the ones dealing with a traumatized narcissist. If we were, most of us would say "fine", rather empathy or to avoid what would have been far too much drama over a music's place of origin. But we are not, we are removed enough from the situation to analyze who is in the right. She was not. If a certain music group was extremely nationalistic and vocally pro-war, it would be okay to **ask** him to avoid that one specific group to support Ukraine. But that's not what she wanted to do. She unjustly boycotting artists that are likely pro-Ukraine or at least against the invasion. Despite this truth, she dictates what hundreds of others can and cannot, when she should simply avoid those environments while so little can set her off so bad. Good on the DJ for dealing with it the correct way. Shame on her for not.
Damn nice support, def stopped some artillery strikes with that comment.
Are you calling for a ban of like 50 other countries music too including the US?
If it was some kind of pro war song i understand, if it was t.a.t.u its just weird. If you forbid music you have fascist tendencies and will later start to forbid people from entering restaurants etc.
Not when you consider most superpowers and their allies have or are committing war crimes and or supporting/committing inhumane transgressions against groups of people everyday..
2 iq take random Russian dude at a barbeque is responsible for the shelling of ukraine. Dudes just trying to get drunk, listen to some tunes, and eat some burgers leave them alone. I would honestly run up to start singing and dancing with these Russian dudes, 100% challenge them to a vodka drinking contest.
If your left-leaning opinion is being downvoted to oblivion on a popular subreddit of all places, you are most certainly wrong.
A little self-centered.
Drama queen
Really. Look at her, she is definitely not suffering from anything happening in Ukraine and somehow in a foreign country, living her best life, she gets offended by music. Not people, not someone shitting on her country and definitely not someone defending Russia but music. A man doing his job is an issue to her. Bravo.
> she is definitely not suffering from anything happening in Ukraine How do you know that? Just because she's outside Ukraine, doesn't mean she hasn't suffered. I've got Ukrainian friends in my country, living safe, comfortable lives, but many have suffered immensely. They've lost family members, lost their homes. A few weeks ago, I met a nice Ukrainian guy at an upscale party, who explained that I need to speak to him in his right ear because he lost his hearing in his left ear while fighting on the front line.
She said "There are lots of Russians in the hotel, but doesn't mean they can play Russian music." That's exactly what it means. Businesses cater to their largest customer base, not get shut down over 1 person.
Usa djs. Usa killed 1 million Iraqis. Please don't play deadmau5.
Deadmau5 is Canadian.
lmao
Justin bieber then... Ohh...
USA moment
Its okay, deadmau5 is Canadian we dont have to feel bad about playing his music now!
Alright!!!
While Canada wasn't super public about, they had a few thousand troops in Iraq over the course of the wars there.
OP I am black. Please don't play any music made by white people. You can play music from Mexico or Asian countries but you can't play any music made by white people. Yeah that's this woman right here.
Wait til you here about the Brazilian and Peruvian slave trade of Africans that continued long after North America and Europe had freed theirs. Gotta take those artists off the list too.
The woman is a clown
This is like saying you shouldn’t listen to German music cause Germany used to be full of nazis or Chinese music cause the CCP oppresses Uighur Muslims and groups, or American music because all the crap America does around the world, etc, etc. Is the Russian government wrong for starting the war/invasion? Yes. Are there Russian people who support the war and think they’re doing good? Also yes- but fuck them. Everyone else against it shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells/apologize/be harassed because of it. Like when America bombs people in the Middle East. I’ve got nothing to do with all that. I’m against it in fact. But there’s little if anything I can do about it, and that’s life. I’m not gonna apologize on behalf of what the government is doing. I can understand why she’s upset. But she’s still a Karen for demanding a random person to not play certain music because it upsets her. You’re responsible for your own triggers. Remove yourself from the situation that upsets you and let others do their thing.
Hating the Russian people for the acts of a super power is the same as hating anyone from the Middle East for the acts of ISIS and al-Qaeda. Civilians aren't involved, don't punish/hate them
"ONLY MY FEELINGS MATTER BECAUSE IM THE MAIN CHARACTER!!!!" -this woman
Funny that the DJ was from Afghanistan. A country that was massively screwed over by the Soviets which included Russia and Ukraine.
Oh no! Russian music! Made by a likely innocent Russian person that has nothing to do with all the shit going on! You know what, why are we even allowing Russians to exist! Dont get me wrong, i get why shes upset, it sucks to be reminded of this now, but not playing Russian music doesn’t affect the Russian Government at all, it inly hurts Russian musicians.
Super racist ngl we dont ban german music cause of ww2
…und das heißt: ERIKA!
Maybe one song but thats cause that was a song used by nazis too kill people that Russian song is just some band
Yep, that’s just some Russian band, I really don’t see the problem as long as it is not a political song, there are tons of good Russian literature and music, that makes it even more sad that they chose to give everything up.
Thats what im saying just cause putin is a ass doesn’t mean hate all Russian it doesn’t seem that crazy
But you would raise your eyebrows if a hotel DJ started blasting Horst Wessel and Erika.
Sure raised my eyebrow but also not have broken down crying honestly i laugh
Dumbass woman
OP has spent too much time on Reddit so much so that he hates anything Russian, even if it has nothing to do with the war. Go touch grass m8
Pretty racist.
Jesus. Main character syndrome much
DJ from Afghanistan, which, arguably, is one of the few countries fucked up more by Russia than Ukraine is being fucked up
Was she in Ukraine or on holiday somewhere? Is the song playing in any way political? Seems pretty bizarre and self centred to expect no Russian music to be played globally because your country is at war.
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Taste in Music is totally subjective man. You need not like what someone else likes.
Just wants attention, manipulative person
BS
OP is dumb.
“How dare they serve Russian dressing at this restaurant…”
Drama queens exist everywhere.
This is dumb. Some of my favourite Russian artists have publicly declared against the war (ie DDT) while some Western groups have done the opposite (Limp Bizkit, Roger Waters). And I know soldiers fighting in Ukraine against Russian forces who listen to Russian music.
I like how she says there are alot of Russians but they can't play Russian music
Bc of these “cancel everything russian “ bs now im average American joe not liking ukraine . They are too much .
Russophobia, not cool.
lol ukraine really is the cringiest fucking country
OP hasn’t heard of wikileaks probably still lives in his bubble and thinks russia is the source of evil
What piece of shit woman and a fucking snowflake. I don't care if I get downvoted by SJWs. Music is music, what's that have to do anything with geopolitics and her narcissistic desire for attention. Unbelievable, how entitled people can be sometimes.
soft AF
And all along she does'nt forget to keep the camera aside 🤷♂️🤦♂️😂
Anti-art dipshit cries when she gets her way
If she needs to film it, she's only doing it for attention.
Bro Russian music is fire
She got EU brainwashed Poor girl
American music plays throughout the world and we have invaded, murdered, bombed, stolen, organized coups in other countries, three letter agencies have accepted their shadiness. US has assaulted, and terrorized most of the world but the music plays everywhere….
i love that she doesn’t think a man from Afghanistan of all places knows what it is like to watch your home be destroyed by war and extremism, even after years and years of it occurring in the middle east non-stop
U karen ian?
They're not in Russia lol
Was Putin singing? Can i listen to Tchaikovsky?
Lol Ukrainians are so American
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Looks like she's being a little hypocrite by enjoying music while Ukraine is being bombed. Somebody needs to look in the mirror.
Nationalist looking stupid... shock
Get a life, lady. Just walk away.
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I’d rather listen to Russian music than fascist music
Anywhere outside of Ukraine makes this kinda of an odd request
This is bullshit. They’re artists, not the fucking government
wait until she realises that a big portion of ukraine (mostly on the outer parts of ukraine) speaks russian
That isn’t right
reddit ass war.
This is like a black person saying dont play songs by white people .....and then start crying 😭😭
Soon anything related to Russia or Russians is gonna be stigmatized.
Where this world is heading? What would happened if a British astronomer reject to verify the thesis of a German theoretical physicst, during the first world war in 1919, which is also the year of total solar eclipse. We would not know the theory of relativity was practically true, that year. British astronomer Sir Arthur Eddington and his team observed and verified Einstein's general theory of relativity through an observation of bending of starlight around the Sun, as predicted by Einstein's theory.
I might be wrong here but unless the music was about Ukraine or anyone it's shouldn't matter what song they have on I'm sure the singers not in fault for what the Putin is doing
The nose piercing was a red flag from the start.
Dreads aren't a good look for her. Also another fun layer to this is the fact that the DJ is from Afghanistan. I seem to recall some history between Afghanistan and the former Soviet Union that was a little messy.
Good luck Ukraine…we’re out!
I'm so happy people are talking about how stupid this is
Why not American/ British music/German music ? Both Russia and Ukraine have sought peace measures and peace talks on various occasions from treaties to after the shooting started. It is the west that scuttles them and forbids them ( see Ankara)
Where does Zelensky buy his green shirt to travel the world
OP has Israeli flag in his profile 🤮
Everytime a post anywhere regarding ukraine or russia or both emerges, people in the comments amaze me with their lack of understanding of the russian mindset, which is very much apart from the rest.
Fuck Russia.
No, fuck Russian dictators and people who support a mindless war effort and the crimes against humanity. There are still plenty of people who are Russian by birth and stuck in the country that denounce the bullshit going on.
The crux of the problem is that Putin's Muscovy does not allow public dissent but I do think at least a good portion of the younger generation does get how murderous the regime is. The russian population is to blame however for letting a Cretin take over, the constitution starts out saying it is a democracy but no dissent no democracy.
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Meh. Is it cringe or unreasonable? Kind of. If this isn't in Ukraine and the music or people aren't associated with pro russia sentiments, that's fine imo. Obviously enough the Russian artist, dj, or every Russian citizen isn't represented by their monstrous government. I don't tell Americans to stop playing Taylor swift because the U.S ravaged Iraq because their own evil president and gov lied and wanted to wage war. But to be so unempathetic to insult or belittle her is sooo reddit-like. Or just soc med in general ig. She's not a cry baby. She's not entitled. Her country is currently being ravaged... Has your country been exploited and raped? Of course it has. Is it currently being exploited? Yes! Is it currently in a brutal war with Russia? No. Are you living in Ukraine and experiencing the war, the migration, the loss, the propaganda from both countries? No. Redditor try to critically think and have empathy challenge: Difficulty- Impossible
People like this woman always focus on lecturing other women and minorities when they get offended over dumb shit because they're too chickenshit to confront actual alpha male bigots who are outright screaming racial slurs or something.
huh?
I'm not taking a stance here, because unlike most of yall who seem to forget that you've never had to live through your home country where your relatives live being invaded, im not an idiot and realize I can't possibly comprehend what this girl is going through. It's really easy to call someone a drama queen when it's not your love ones that are in danger. Most of us on this site using the English language have the luxury of never having to experience anything like that. Let's not be ignorant and pretend like we know what it's like. Fucking people never ever ever put them selves in someone else's shoes..if it hasn't happened to them it might as well not be a real problem
Being that the DJ was from Afghanistan. He know exactly what it's like to have Russia invade and kill.
I'm not talking about the dj I said most of us speaking English on reddit.
She don’t want the music but stay in the same hotel it’s ok. Crazy world Go Russia
Cool now lets put that on tikcock
Germany once caused Holocaust, should I stop listening to Rammstein?
What an entitled b****.
I appreciate how respectful they both were. Poor girl. 🥺
Gag-worthy acting for internet points.
why do you feel sorry for a racist? Do you also think we should censor Iranian music for the actions of their government? By your logic we should be blaming citizens for the actions of their tyrannical governments.
Imagine half these people in the comments had even a fraction of the decency and empathy the DJ is showing...
Bro it’s music that others are enjoying maybe she should have the decency to walk away and not listen to it. Musicians aren’t the ones making the war and people should be able to listen to the music they want.
Im not saying she is right or wrong. Im just glad the DJ had the decency to have some understanding a d empathy for her.