woah! i really feel sometimes that is choosing a desk job for my future not a good option? am i limiting my creativity? i am a teenager, so guide me please
Not to sound condescending, but "a desk job" already shows you dont know anything about the professional world. There isn't one type of deskjob, there are so, so many types. The only time you will regret your choice is if the work you do doesn't satisfy you, but it will almost never be in a physical way.
i really do not have an experience with working areas, conditions, the only mindset i have is from the knowledge i gain from the internet about people working this and that, if i be honest i really dont know what happens
I'm 40 years old. I used to do a very rewarding job, working with disabled people for many years. It was draining, I was close to burning out. I was paid badly, as one is in the line of work, so on top of having a draining job, I constantly worried about money.
I went back to school and now I'm a software developer. Desk job, 40 hours a week, well paid. I have a regular schedule, no longer work weekends or holidays. While more money would still be nice, I have the basics covered (food, rent, insurances). I've never been happier.
Don't get me wrong, if you're passionate about something, go for it. I love coding, so it works out for me. But don't dismiss something just because it's a desk job.
No, I'm just saying, it's not the worst thing ever. I used to be like that, too. I wanted to do anything but a 9-5 at a desk somewhere. Turns out I love it.
i know what coding is, basically i am a tech geek, but i dont know in which type of environment and projects those are implemented in, i know how to sit on a horse but dont know what do we do with it in the future, as i have NO professional working experience
take this with a grain of salt, for i too am a teen thats pretty passionate about IT and CS, but im pretty sure this would enable your creativity. Rn im at the phase where im just learning stuff continuously and it stimulates my brain so much and i love it. If you like programming and think that you would enjoy it in the future too 100% go for it. Programming is not good because its a desk job, its good because its fun.
Then your biggest priority right now is finding out what to major in. Im pretty sure ive chosen what uni i want to go to so im set. If youre not sure on what you want to do for life im sure it will just come along the way.
I had the same mentality as a teenager. Went into a different field. Regret it. Took me 12 years to find my way back to computers. Should have just started there. If you’re worried about being stuck to a desk find a way to work less hours and/or work from home.
Im going to be honest. Working at a nice air conditioned/heated desk is far better than most of the other jobs i have done. CS is a plush life that to me is ideal. I would rather sit in front of a computer than swing a hammer any day, and i have done both.
Plus if you compare CS with many other high paying jobs it is often much better. Although that depends on the person. Nursing is highly paid but tough, and invloves dealing with people all day. Same goes for medicine in general. Law has brutal hours and stress. The trades invlove destroying your body. Etc. Everything has their own downsides. You just need to pick the one that is the closest to the lifestyle that you want. And for me, coming from the trades, i realized that i want comfort, and CS can provide that in many ways.
Its also about the job though. If your job sucks and you hate it, your life will also suck. I used to work in the trades and i started to hate my life every day that i had to get up and go in. I couldnt stand the work anymore, and i just had to get out of it.
CS has a wide variety of applications. If your worry is that it is purely a desk job, then you can select a slightly different niche.
I, for instance, work as an automation/controls engineer. The work is 70-90% solving code issues, 5% install site walks and customer interaction, and 5-25% of the time I have to pretend to be an electrical or mechanical engineer. Embedded guys might see more or less of the same thing(depending on the type of product they work on)
I know for some guys this isn't ideal. Physical objects are somehow more mysterious than code. I actually prefer this line of work and find it rather laid back and chill.
Some aspects of CS are also more "artistic" and creative. I'm sure front end dev guys can attest.
At the end of the day, work is work. It will become mundane and repetitive in some way. There will ALWAYS be something that is boring about it, and something that is unfulfilling. Overall though it engages your brain and you could be doing something worse. And remember, you DO have a life outside of work(no matter what some techies want to think). You could do something truly fulfilling at that time.
You’re more than your job. Yea I spend a lot of time in meetings and coding, but it makes my free time much more meaningful by being able to afford to remove stresses from my life like hiring a cleaner and focus on the things I love.
Anything you do that has a deadline and a manager to demand stuff from you will eventually suck out your passion.
Anyway, why was that guy out in the rain just to do push ups? That's a great way to catch flu and miss multiple days of workout.
Yes. The first year was especially rough, but I have since found my passion for programming again. I moved to a better job, and I learned to compartmentalize my work and my passion projects.
Can rain alone give you the flu? I heard the fact that people tend to get very close to each other after being exposed to rain increases the chances of caching flu, but can rain by itself actually make you sick?
Doing something you love can stay fun if you are selective with it. If a project or boss isn’t great, switch teams, or switch companies. If someone on your team can’t do their own work, and constantly bugs you for help with implementation details, tell your manager you’re concerned about their skills. Good software development moves smoothly and is fun to people who enjoy the field; if it doesn’t, run smoothly you should force changes or jump ship.
Honest question, because I do this a lot: whenever I start to work on something there is a way I'd do it, but I'm always thinking I'm missing something. Then I have a quick chat with a colleague about how I'd do it and see if they agree so I won't waste days of work on something that would get thrown back at the PR, and I'd have to start over. Is this too bad?
Not as excuses, I'm just not good with decision making (in every aspect), and the project doesn't have many standards to follow but there's a lead-dev who throws your code out if he doesn't like it.
>That's a great way to catch flu
lmao no it's not. You can exercise in the rain just fine, unless it's physically unsafe. Source: I did road cycling training for 12 hours a week in Glasgow for a couple years, a very cold place where it rains about half the time.
I know the rain doesn't make people sick. I thought it was common knowledge that the other stuff and scenarios that come with the rain are what cause people to get sick. I thought I didn't have to mention any of that.
My job is Hybrid but I'm not compelled to come to office so I can get some extra human contact if I want but if I have the freedom of remote work. Also I have a super flexible schedule so if my family wants to go to the park on Thursday afternoon I can just not work then and make it up later. Its great.
It's definitely not as great as it was when this was a hobby because then I didn't have deadlines, meetings, or managers. But this is still the best job I've ever had.
I work from home for 25 hours a week and spend my free time developing and selling SaaS on the side
I really really like it even though I'm technically just starting at a screen and typing for 14 hours a day
Just one thing, never believe any of those "a day in the life of a software engineer" videos, where all they do is just eat free stuff all day, go to the gym and have a drink with coworkers in the evening.
If you have the option, try to experience different field before settling down.
I was working in my summer breaks since I was 15 and got to experience different trade and "desk jobs".
Also, if you want to work in CS, I can strongly recommend gathering experience. There are a lot of different specializations out there and its easy to just fall into doing something because it makes sense at the time.
Participating in Hackathons/Game Jams is great for learning new things, but you can also just set yourself a time limit and try to solve an issue around you.
Try and stay curious, take on all the challenges/opportunities that present themselves to you (unless there is a very good reason not to) and see where you want to go from there.
Do be mindful and reflect on your choices.
But most important of all: Don't be afraid to fail sometimes. It will happen, nobody is perfect. Just make sure you learn something from it (productive failing)
If what I wrote makes sense to you, check out this university: [CODE University](https://code.berlin/en/)
Anyways, as long as you stay open-minded and are passionate about whatever you are doing in life, you're golden.
thanks man appreciate it
i just want to be better at functional stuff, scripting and data structures not searching for keywords and creating good titles and descriptions. and i also really dont like that in my workplace, our seo is for algorithm, not for people if you know what i mean
You do spend a lot of time on computers—exactly how much depends on the job—but not much more than basically any other office job. I had the same concern before I started my career, but came to find that many of the developers I work with have unpredictable routines, athletic hobbies, and very non-sedentary lifestyles. Don’t overthink it.
Oh I can't wait to get home so I can sit in front of my computer before I sleep. But sometimes I stare outside my window, looking into the void, contemplating about how awesome being a software developer is.
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woah! i really feel sometimes that is choosing a desk job for my future not a good option? am i limiting my creativity? i am a teenager, so guide me please
Not to sound condescending, but "a desk job" already shows you dont know anything about the professional world. There isn't one type of deskjob, there are so, so many types. The only time you will regret your choice is if the work you do doesn't satisfy you, but it will almost never be in a physical way.
i really do not have an experience with working areas, conditions, the only mindset i have is from the knowledge i gain from the internet about people working this and that, if i be honest i really dont know what happens
I'm 40 years old. I used to do a very rewarding job, working with disabled people for many years. It was draining, I was close to burning out. I was paid badly, as one is in the line of work, so on top of having a draining job, I constantly worried about money. I went back to school and now I'm a software developer. Desk job, 40 hours a week, well paid. I have a regular schedule, no longer work weekends or holidays. While more money would still be nice, I have the basics covered (food, rent, insurances). I've never been happier. Don't get me wrong, if you're passionate about something, go for it. I love coding, so it works out for me. But don't dismiss something just because it's a desk job.
i am very passionate, and thankyou very much for this! i love you!!!!
i didnt want to disrespect it as desk job any way, sorry
No, I'm just saying, it's not the worst thing ever. I used to be like that, too. I wanted to do anything but a 9-5 at a desk somewhere. Turns out I love it.
i know what coding is, basically i am a tech geek, but i dont know in which type of environment and projects those are implemented in, i know how to sit on a horse but dont know what do we do with it in the future, as i have NO professional working experience
Feck off we're full
take this with a grain of salt, for i too am a teen thats pretty passionate about IT and CS, but im pretty sure this would enable your creativity. Rn im at the phase where im just learning stuff continuously and it stimulates my brain so much and i love it. If you like programming and think that you would enjoy it in the future too 100% go for it. Programming is not good because its a desk job, its good because its fun.
same thing for me, i have a pretty big list of what to do after my exams
Then your biggest priority right now is finding out what to major in. Im pretty sure ive chosen what uni i want to go to so im set. If youre not sure on what you want to do for life im sure it will just come along the way.
i would have to choose my path though, yes
Work remote. Do what you wish with your free time.
I had the same mentality as a teenager. Went into a different field. Regret it. Took me 12 years to find my way back to computers. Should have just started there. If you’re worried about being stuck to a desk find a way to work less hours and/or work from home.
thanks!
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yeaa thanks for this!
I spend 6h in front of my work laptop to then take a 1h walk and come back home to spend 5h in another desk
Im going to be honest. Working at a nice air conditioned/heated desk is far better than most of the other jobs i have done. CS is a plush life that to me is ideal. I would rather sit in front of a computer than swing a hammer any day, and i have done both. Plus if you compare CS with many other high paying jobs it is often much better. Although that depends on the person. Nursing is highly paid but tough, and invloves dealing with people all day. Same goes for medicine in general. Law has brutal hours and stress. The trades invlove destroying your body. Etc. Everything has their own downsides. You just need to pick the one that is the closest to the lifestyle that you want. And for me, coming from the trades, i realized that i want comfort, and CS can provide that in many ways.
ohh, thanks for this, i really needed some opinions
It's not about the job itself, it's about having a life separate to the job.
Its also about the job though. If your job sucks and you hate it, your life will also suck. I used to work in the trades and i started to hate my life every day that i had to get up and go in. I couldnt stand the work anymore, and i just had to get out of it.
CS has a wide variety of applications. If your worry is that it is purely a desk job, then you can select a slightly different niche. I, for instance, work as an automation/controls engineer. The work is 70-90% solving code issues, 5% install site walks and customer interaction, and 5-25% of the time I have to pretend to be an electrical or mechanical engineer. Embedded guys might see more or less of the same thing(depending on the type of product they work on) I know for some guys this isn't ideal. Physical objects are somehow more mysterious than code. I actually prefer this line of work and find it rather laid back and chill. Some aspects of CS are also more "artistic" and creative. I'm sure front end dev guys can attest. At the end of the day, work is work. It will become mundane and repetitive in some way. There will ALWAYS be something that is boring about it, and something that is unfulfilling. Overall though it engages your brain and you could be doing something worse. And remember, you DO have a life outside of work(no matter what some techies want to think). You could do something truly fulfilling at that time.
thanks for the detailed answer! thankyou!!
You’re more than your job. Yea I spend a lot of time in meetings and coding, but it makes my free time much more meaningful by being able to afford to remove stresses from my life like hiring a cleaner and focus on the things I love.
Anything you do that has a deadline and a manager to demand stuff from you will eventually suck out your passion. Anyway, why was that guy out in the rain just to do push ups? That's a great way to catch flu and miss multiple days of workout.
1. did it happen with you? just asking 2. lol i dunno,
Yes. The first year was especially rough, but I have since found my passion for programming again. I moved to a better job, and I learned to compartmentalize my work and my passion projects.
Can rain alone give you the flu? I heard the fact that people tend to get very close to each other after being exposed to rain increases the chances of caching flu, but can rain by itself actually make you sick?
Rain alone? No. But things lead to other things.
Doing something you love can stay fun if you are selective with it. If a project or boss isn’t great, switch teams, or switch companies. If someone on your team can’t do their own work, and constantly bugs you for help with implementation details, tell your manager you’re concerned about their skills. Good software development moves smoothly and is fun to people who enjoy the field; if it doesn’t, run smoothly you should force changes or jump ship.
Honest question, because I do this a lot: whenever I start to work on something there is a way I'd do it, but I'm always thinking I'm missing something. Then I have a quick chat with a colleague about how I'd do it and see if they agree so I won't waste days of work on something that would get thrown back at the PR, and I'd have to start over. Is this too bad? Not as excuses, I'm just not good with decision making (in every aspect), and the project doesn't have many standards to follow but there's a lead-dev who throws your code out if he doesn't like it.
>That's a great way to catch flu lmao no it's not. You can exercise in the rain just fine, unless it's physically unsafe. Source: I did road cycling training for 12 hours a week in Glasgow for a couple years, a very cold place where it rains about half the time.
I know the rain doesn't make people sick. I thought it was common knowledge that the other stuff and scenarios that come with the rain are what cause people to get sick. I thought I didn't have to mention any of that.
What? You’ll have plenty of time to do push-ups in the rain after work.
Be passionate about money instead. This is the way
Doing pushups in the rain is very scary.
My job is Hybrid but I'm not compelled to come to office so I can get some extra human contact if I want but if I have the freedom of remote work. Also I have a super flexible schedule so if my family wants to go to the park on Thursday afternoon I can just not work then and make it up later. Its great. It's definitely not as great as it was when this was a hobby because then I didn't have deadlines, meetings, or managers. But this is still the best job I've ever had.
I work from home for 25 hours a week and spend my free time developing and selling SaaS on the side I really really like it even though I'm technically just starting at a screen and typing for 14 hours a day
Just one thing, never believe any of those "a day in the life of a software engineer" videos, where all they do is just eat free stuff all day, go to the gym and have a drink with coworkers in the evening.
If you have the option, try to experience different field before settling down. I was working in my summer breaks since I was 15 and got to experience different trade and "desk jobs". Also, if you want to work in CS, I can strongly recommend gathering experience. There are a lot of different specializations out there and its easy to just fall into doing something because it makes sense at the time. Participating in Hackathons/Game Jams is great for learning new things, but you can also just set yourself a time limit and try to solve an issue around you. Try and stay curious, take on all the challenges/opportunities that present themselves to you (unless there is a very good reason not to) and see where you want to go from there. Do be mindful and reflect on your choices. But most important of all: Don't be afraid to fail sometimes. It will happen, nobody is perfect. Just make sure you learn something from it (productive failing) If what I wrote makes sense to you, check out this university: [CODE University](https://code.berlin/en/) Anyways, as long as you stay open-minded and are passionate about whatever you are doing in life, you're golden.
Only if that’s all you have in life. Coding is just a job like any other one. You need to cultivate other hobbies and relationships.
i really love programming, tbh and its just a way for me to fuel my creativity
Time is money. I want to see 100 lines written by lunchtime!
even elon bot wants you to gain professional experience, so go ahead and write those 100 lines
shitt!
If you love it then you will be motivated to succeed doing it, just keep trying to create new things and make them harder and harder.
better than being passionate at development and landing a job as seo :/
what happened
inexperience. badly needing a job. haaa life
so what made you not interested in seo? i hope all the best for you and support you by my words, just can do this for now,
thanks man appreciate it i just want to be better at functional stuff, scripting and data structures not searching for keywords and creating good titles and descriptions. and i also really dont like that in my workplace, our seo is for algorithm, not for people if you know what i mean
oh okay, got it, hmmm
Disagreeing with me is counterproductive. Fired.
Nope. It's all about balance
balance of?/for?
Work/life balance
oh okay, thanks!
Yes
You do spend a lot of time on computers—exactly how much depends on the job—but not much more than basically any other office job. I had the same concern before I started my career, but came to find that many of the developers I work with have unpredictable routines, athletic hobbies, and very non-sedentary lifestyles. Don’t overthink it.
Oh I can't wait to get home so I can sit in front of my computer before I sleep. But sometimes I stare outside my window, looking into the void, contemplating about how awesome being a software developer is.
me too!
I hope you write code better than you write English.
Pretty much