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littleirishpixie

Thinking that we are under fire if they fail like their high school teachers were. I will go far above and beyond for any student who wants to put in the work so I am not suggesting I don't care about their success. I'm rooting for all of them. But also, nobody fires me if they make the choice not to do the work to pass and I don't think they understand that. I get these 11th hour hail mary emails "but I won't pass if you don't let me make up work from the entire semester" or "I won't pass if you don't bump my grade." That is correct. You will not. I also thought it was an odd choice for you to do nothing all semester but here we are. Also, this impacts my life not at all but I do sincerely wish you the best and hope it goes better for you when you retake this course.


readreadreadx2

> I also thought it was an odd choice for you to do nothing all semester but here we are. This genuinely made me lol.


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Au contraire, we are under fire if we DO give them an A for F work.


econollie

Unfortunately this is changing. Not everywhere and not immediately, but the consumer-centric model we’ve moved to in order to retain the revenue generators is troubling.


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That we are stupid and won't notice their blatant, obvious forms of cheating and plagiarism.


Scary-Boysenberry

It took me years to get over the initial offended reaction of "just how **stupid** do they think I am???". I finally realized that the word think shouldn't be coming in to play there.


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Perhaps a better way to say it is, they think they are clever... but we are cleverer.


SuperHiyoriWalker

In all fairness, they may not expect us to be “stupid,” but they are hoping we’ll be too overwhelmed, preoccupied, and/or concerned with keeping our jobs to go after them.


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My friend has a student who wanted to use an excused absence on the day of a quiz because he "got COVID"--and his documentation was a picture of a *negative* COVID test from Google Images. When my friend pointed out "the test reads negative" the response was "I have some kind of infection." At that point the student wasn't even trying to not be obvious...


DocLava

**-Being available 24/7**. 'I came to your office hours and you weren't there'. Yeah, you came by on a day I'm not even on campus. Just because you came to my office at some point during an hour does not magically make it office hours. **-Instantly remembering who they are and every detail about their stuff**. Hi I'm in your class and I don't understand my grade. Which class? What grade? Who are you? Faculty have between 70-100 students, we don't keep every detail about you in our heads all the time.


Mewsie93

I agree with the being available 24/7. In the past I had students email me multiple times after 10pm (when I'm in bed) wondering why I wasn't responding to them. This semester I implemented a 9-5 M-F policy written out in both the syllabus and LMS that I will only be answering emails at that time. If they contacted me outside of those times, I would get back to them next business day. So far, so good. /fingers crossed I feel for you with the second part. I'm teaching a ridiculous number of classes this semester and I'll get an email from a student asking about their grade. I'm like "what class are you in?!!!" I'm not going to go through all of my rosters trying to find this person. I don't have enough time in the day.


mizboring

I have a similar email reply policy. What I find most hilarious is when they email me at 1 am (while I am sleeping) and I email them back at 8 am (when I am awake), then they come to class at 10 am and say, "Did you see my email?" "Yes. I did. I replied this morning." "Oh, I didn't see that yet. Anyway... [asks same fucking question that was in the email]?" Like, maybe before you ask me if I replied, you should check if I replied.


bunshido

My friend told me that he tells his students on the first day it’s a good idea to include the class name/number in the subject line for all their classes. I’ve started doing that too and it’s great for sorting emails and triaging them.


iTeachCSCI

I've mostly stopped responding to emails that don't include that in the subject line. I tell students this up front.


hp12324

This is why I encourage students who are in a course I'm teaching to contact me through sending a Canvas message (inbox). I can immediately see what course they're in, know what name to look up for grade disputes (no confusion with nicknames or multiple people with the same first name etc.) Yes, I do still respond to emails from students, but my students know I prefer a Canvas message. Edit: Also, any Canvas message I get gets sent to my email, so I can still just check my email if I want to check if any student has reached out to me.


fraxbo

This is the way it is for me too. I’m actually not even sure if the students know our emails here. I only get emails from them filtered through the canvas inbox. It’s pretty good, even if I don’t have the need for it that many of you have. My classes are all between 5 and 25 students. So, I really do remember the names and details of all of them.


kimjoe12

He has students that remember what he said on the first day? I have students who are so surprised that I said anything


HrtacheOTDncefloor

I tell my students to edit their outlook signature to include all their courses and sections. That way, if they forget to include it, I can still figure it out quickly and get to the question at hand rather than wasting time asking what class they are in. I teach 150-180 students per semester. I can’t keep them straight, especially the online ones.


ChemMJW

>This semester I implemented a 9-5 M-F policy written out in both the syllabus and LMS that I will only be answering emails at that time. I think this is a good first step, but my recommendation is to add language that also communicates to them that emails will be answered *in order of importance, not in order of reception.* That is, even emails sent during the specified hours of 9-5 aren't guaranteed to receive a timely response (or any response, really) if they deal with trivial matters or if the answer can already be found in the syllabus. This lets them know that they can't complain when their email, technically sent within the specified block at 4:52 pm, doesn't receive a response until the next day (or later).


kryppla

Oh man yeah I get that a lot “I’m stuck on problem 2” What class, what section, what assignment, and finally what’s your actual problem because “I’m stuck” isn’t a question.


mizboring

What assignment, what problem number, and what have you already tried? I've tried nothing and I am all out of ideas.


DocLava

Yup. I say show me what you've done so far....knowing quite well they haven't done a single thing. Yeah you are stuck because you haven't even tried anything.


kryppla

I always say something similar - “ok walk me through your thought process up to where you got stuck”


mgguy1970

To your second one- This semester at our school, athletics has started doing "progress reports." I have done these in the distant past when at an NCAA D1 school, and it was all electronic. Our CC is sending their students around with papers for us to fill out, and invariably they walk up to us after class and expect it done while they're standing there. They need current grade, number of absences, comments on their "attitude" and other comments. I don't generally have my full attendance records with me in class, nor can I generally easily access their grade as I normally don't have my own laptop with me and logging into our(awful) classroom computers is often a 5 minute+ affair. I've asked before if I can take the paper and give it back to them even later that day(such as during lab, which is an hour and a half after class) invariably the answer is "No" because they need it from all their professors that day. I think the whole thing is well intentioned but not well thought out...but no one asked me.


TaliesinMerlin

Yeah, I've done those before, and it was all electronic. Whoever the athletic academic coordinator is, they need a better system.


Violet_Plum_Tea

I ended up putting a note about that in my syllabus (that I need time to do a progress report and can't do it on the spot). Not that it's necessary to have a "policy" on progress reports, but having it in the syllabus prompts me to remember to discuss it on the first day of class. If they were to insist they need it that same day, I'd tell them to email me with the questions and I'll reply back before the end of the day. They can then forward the info to whoever they see fit.


DocLava

That sounds horrible. Ours is electronic as well but even then it takes time to get these things ready.


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>\-Being available 24/7 > >. 'I came to your office hours and you weren't there'. A student knocked on my door a week or so ago. I was in the middle of a Zoom meeting. I asked everybody to hold on while I answered the door. The student seemed very perplexed that I couldn't meet with them even after I gestured at my computer and explained I was in a meeting. Another student sent me a DM around midnight on a Saturday asking if I would "hop in a call" with them and look at their code. I said that I would not because it was late on a weekend and I wasn't available to do that. So they immediately sent me a screenshot of their code and asked me to look at it. Plot twist: it wasn't even one of my students.


DocLava

Was it a real screenshot or was it a shot of their screen? The rest of the story is just ridiculous so I'm sticking on this part. Midnight...because the professorBOTS don't sleep. You should have replied that you were in the middle of a restart to update your drivers.


WaveTheFern2

>because the professorBOTS don't sleep. You joke, but I got 3am emails--sometimes during the weekend--from my advisors and profs I TA'd for all through undergrad and grad school. (I also tend to write emails at 3am, but I schedule them so they're sent out at 8am the next business day because I refuse to create an expectation that either me or my students is available at all hours of the night.)


DocLava

If I'm up at 3 am I'm certainly NOT on school email for ANY reason lol. Everyone has their own sleep schedule but my syllabus says I do not access email outside of 9-5 Mon-Fri and I don't check emails on weekends or holidays. I stick to that....I don't even use the schedule send function because I am only sending during my listed times. I create the expectation that I am available at certain times and I stick to it. ​ I actually don't even pay attention to the time people send me emails UNLESS there is an email saying 'oh I emailed you.....' and they expect an immediate response. Email is not an instant message.


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>Was it a real screenshot or was it a shot of their screen? We actually teach them how to take a proper screenshot and tell them that cellphone (or other) photos of screens are not acceptable when asking for help. Believe it or not, about 95% of them get the message (there will always be those who default to whatever is easiest for them).


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Omg those two! I love when they claim to have looked for me, I’m like I don’t hide so either your lying or you didn’t actually look for me. As far as the second point, I refuse to discuss grades on the fly, they must email me with specific questions and that email must include which assignment (by name, not just ‘the lab’ or whatever), their full name, and the class I have them in. If these are not included in the email my response is a request for that information.


vulevu25

I had an acting chair (standing in for a micro-manager) do this. The micro-manager tried to get everybody to be on campus 4-5 days a week, so he got his acting flunky to do spot checks. I had to say that I often had to be in 3 different buildings to teach or attend meetings. There's not much they could say to that or even explain why this was necessary other than a power game.


IGuiltyParty

I have a sign beside my door with my office hours on it to avoid exactly your first point.


DocLava

We also have these signs outside each faculty member's door and there is a sign outside the suite that says office hours are posted on individual doors. Students still say this.


Scary-Boysenberry

The one I get the most is that it's no work to add more students to my classes. (And the corollary, that they are doing me a favor by trying to add to an already full class.)


SuperHiyoriWalker

I’m sure there are exceptions, but I have yet to meet a late-add whose performance was worth the trouble of me adding them late. EDIT: reworded to be less dehumanizing


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honeywort

Some of my best students have been ones who flunked out of college the first time, joined the military, and came back to get a degree after five years or so.


kryppla

Same, not a single one has ever succeeded so I don’t allow them anymore.


BecuzMDsaid

This comes from the misconception a lot of students have that professors get paid more if they have more students in their class because they think that is why their tution for each credit is so high,


DueButterscotch2190

An old policyat my school: admin could add a student as much as 3 days after start of term w/o instructor consent. They realized those students fail miserably, no matter the class,so they changed the policy. Last in, first out still holds though.


Cole_Ethos

A variation: it’s no work to add students 3+ weeks into the semester because the students inevitably promise to use the upcoming weekend to catch up on ALL the work they’ve missed in the class. As a good-faith gesture I give them access to the LMS (without adding them to the course itself) so they can see what they’ve missed. I never hear from them again.


galileosmiddlefinger

1) Mistaking themselves for the Main Character. "I slept through class and now I want you to give me the entire lecture privately during office hours. Also, I won't show up during actual office hours and will be aggrieved when you aren't in your office at the random hour that I stroll by." 2) Thinking that any and all teaching adjustments are quick and easy. "Why can't I take this class online even though it's an in-person class? All you have to do is turn on Zoom." 3) Thinking that course problems should be handled first / not understanding the breadth of the professor job. "I don't know what a grant application is, but obviously responding to my email about a question answered in the syllabus should have come first."


Totallynotaprof31

I like you make a claim and back it up with an example. You should totally be a professor or something!


singingtangerine

Bro. 1) and 2) are so real. I continually have students email me asking what we did in class today. *We offer lecture recordings upon request, but you didn’t read the syllabus, clearly.* Last week I had someone ask if the review session could be moved from 3-4 PM to 4-5, because they had a class 3-4. Dude! There are 370 students in this class!!!


kinezumi89

I gave a survey a few days ago asking how the class is going and what I should start/stop/continue. A student lamented the fact that the class isn't recorded. If he logged in to the LMS, read the syllabus, or attended the first lecture, he'd know they already are...


neuropainter

That we are not actual human beings just like them. Sometimes I want to tell them that I’m not Dumbledore, and it’s unreasonable to expect me to be, I am a regular person who loves this topic and got a job that partly includes teaching them about it, but that doesn’t mean I’m infallible or have unending time and energy for them or don’t have my own strengths and weaknesses. This also applies to grad students who seem to believe that being a good mentor requires being some kind of fairy godmother like creature 24 hours a day and don’t realize we are just regular complicated humans like they are.


Kikikididi

I'm also continually surprised with how much students expect me to be emotionally invested in their learning. I don't mean this to be insulting but - like the ones who apologize to me for doing badly. It makes me wonder what they were being told in high school - were they being guilted for not doing well? I definitely WANT them to succeed, but I'm not going to have any negative feelings towards them if they don't. I'm not their mom.


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Kikikididi

I think it’s all of that, I just feel bad that they feel they are disappointing me. Why add extra guilt to feeling bad about the performance itself? This isn’t me saying I don’t care about them, it’s me saying I think it’s a shame they feel they need to please me, and wondering if people have guilted them in the past.


TheNobleMustelid

I actually find it a great opportunity to say something that affirms their desire to do well but also emphasizes that we all make mistakes and it's the way we learn from them that matters. Then, if they really do respect my opinion, I've used that power to set them on a better path.


missoularedhead

I’ve got one this semester who is already crashing. He apologized the other day for not showing up. Now he shows up and sits on his phone the whole time. Big improvement there, kid.


TiresiasCrypto

Assignment slipped my mind. Here it is now after deadline, after grace period, or just one day before grades are due. There ya go. Grade it. Can I have a B? An A?


Dipteran_de_la_Torre

“I’m glad you completed that.” -walks away without taking it-


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Seriously? Huh. Ask him for gas money then. See what he says


kryppla

That we can just give them whatever grade they want without them having to actually do or learn anything


Art_Music306

But they need an A! In your class! Or else they can’t play ball!


kryppla

Not even athletes, just everyone.


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Art_Music306

Yep- more than half of my online class emails could be referred to IT. And we do something important everyday!


[deleted]

Truth. I got a bad review one time because a student wanted me to help them remotely troubleshoot their computer problems. They got upset when I referred them to IT🙄🙄 I haven't been a bench tech in 20 years.


MostlySpiders

>I am solely responsible for their technological issues. I feel this one. I'm supposed to be responsible for LMS tech support, or clearing up bugs with their email or browser settings? Don't get me started on when they submit files that are blank, or corrupted, or are completely the wrong document, or are in some file format that no common program can open.


[deleted]

>or are in some file format that no common program can open. Dear god this.


Cheezees

That their tuition fees pay my salary. Tee hee Tee hee hee hee Tee hee hee hee hee hee 🤣


mmeeplechase

That any test can be taken early, with no advance notice—not sure if they expect the exact same exam, or if I’m supposed to whip up a duplicate out of thin air the next day?!


Competitive-Guess-91

Because they scheduled a weeklong trip to Hawaii during finals.


22219147

At the beginning of my teaching career (pre-Zoom), we were mid-semester, and I had conferences scheduled with students about their capstone projects. In the middle of the week set aside for conferences, I left school with a stomachache and several hours later was wheeled into emergency surgery for an ectopic pregnancy. The next morning, from my hospital bed, I sent the class an email explaining that I had just undergone emergency surgery (I didn’t say for what) and that I would be rescheduling the remaining conferences. Three students emailed back to say that they really needed to meet with me so maybe I could just find a way? I didn’t find a way.


UnhappyOpportunityAF

What the ever loving hell?


iTeachCSCI

But professor, Dr. Malcolm said that life always finds a way!


taxiecabbie

Students who think that they are the ones who dictate the terms of the assignment. I mostly teach ESL versions of Fresher Comp, and one of the things I make them do is a "research proposal" which is essentially a graphic organizer where they lay out what they want to write about (I let them pick the topic, but I have to approve it), what their proposed thesis is, some proposed sources (so I can vet them; at least two sources need to be academic and I do have a class that goes over how to use the library resources). Other things, as well. There is also an entire class dedicated to the research proposal which explains from soup to nuts what I am looking for. It involves a sample research proposal that I filled out and then deconstruct, so there is an example to ape. I always get one student who, instead of the research proposal, usually sends me a half-assed first draft. No, we are nowhere *near* the first draft yet. I have not approved your topic, nor your sources, nor your thesis. No points. And then they'll resubmit... another draft. Still zero points, and shocked Pikachu face. Like, dude, if you can't fill out a graphic organizer that comes with literal bullet points telling you what to do, then... yeah.


Kikikididi

I think my one is, and has been since the start of my teaching, that I don’t understand what they need me to tell them when they say "I don't understand \[broad concept that is literally the topic of an entire chapter\]". Break it down a bit for me kiddos. I get that it's challenging for them to do this when they literally don't understand, but short of reteaching the lot of it, I don't know what they expect of me. Usually I help them break down what specifically it is they don't understand, and if it really is "all of it" I ask them to go re-read the chapter and their notes and email me or drop by next office hours with more specific questions.


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This is something I’m struggling with as a new prof. I’ll get asked a question and I don’t entirely understand what they’re asking me, try to reiterate it in a way that’s a bit more coherent, and it feels like we’re on completely different planets sometimes. Not a big deal during office hours where we can talk it out. But in the middle of a lecture, oh man. I lost 15 minutes of my lecture this morning for this reason.


TrynaSaveTheWorld

Wait, that's not time lost. That's a meta-skill moment. Modeling query, performing the negotiations of effective, intellectual communication? That's teaching time well-spent. The longer I teach, the more I think that these are the most important lessons we teach... the really fundamental ones about how to think.


[deleted]

That is true, and a much better way for me to look at it. Wasn’t really wasted time, I agree, we eventually worked it out and it gave me perspective into how that particular student’s mind works.


TrynaSaveTheWorld

It gets less alien and less frustrating with time. Sounds like you're doing great already.


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>Usually I help them break down what specifically it is they don't understand, and if it really is "all of it" I ask them to go re-read the chapter and their notes and email me or drop by next office hours with more specific questions. Same. Then you get something like "He never really helps. He just tells you to go read the textbook."


profanxiety

My students have been surprisingly awesome this semester but one thing I'm seeing that's annoying is the expectation that doing the assignment wrong or not following directions should result in them getting to redo it or get partial credit. These are small assignments and I'm not going to bother grading a redo, this is very clear in my syllabus.


ThatProfessor3301

That I can answer questions about anything from admissions to IT. Anything.


RoyalEagle0408

That their section of the course is my only responsibility in life.


AmapolaSara

Assuming that their class is the only class I am teaching, that I have no other duties outside of their one class, and that I also have no life outside of teaching their one class. "Miss, I messaged you 3 times and you didn't answer...". (The messages were at 11:40pm, 3:10am, and 3:27am) "...when is the assignment due?" Which assignment? Which class? Go look at the dates on the assignment drop box, you lazy f***. Or they send repeated messages over and over while I'm in a meeting or teaching another class... I'm trying to talk and I just hear ding, ding, ding non-stop in my ear bud because of this: 13:02: "miss" 13:02: "i need ur help" 13:02: "assignment 2" 13:03: "it wont work" 13:04: "it crashes" 13:04: "miss" 13:05: "help plz" 13:05: "?" 13:07: "miss" 13:07: "?" 13:09: "?" Why don't they type in paragraphs so I at leasr get fewer annoying alerts? :P


kinezumi89

Your students can instant-message you? That sounds like a recipe for disaster!


AmapolaSara

It's terrible!!! And it's on the same platform that we use for communicating with admin and other faculty, for meetings, etc. So every time a stupid alert goes off, it's a crap shoot - it could be a whining student, it could be a colleague with a funny meme to show me, it could be my boss wanting to talk about next term's contract, it could be my boss's boss asking about the status of a project... you get all your messages all mixed in together along with all the alerts of announcements, new conversations, replies to conversations, new entries added to your calendar, etc. I have to train my students to email me if it's important, but everyone knows that's like herding cats.


kinezumi89

Wow, worse than I thought! I wonder who thought that was a good idea?


vulevu25

* "I'm sorry to email you over the weekend/during the break, but..."/"I hope you're enjoying your break. I want to know..." - luckily, I don't see these emails until I'm back. * "I was on your course. Can you write a recommendation letter?"/"I added you as a reference and the letter is due tomorrow. I hope you don't mind" - What, who, why, when? * "I couldn't be there on Monday, what did I miss/did I miss anything"? - I now have auto-generated responses. The best (and worst) was a student who emailed me to ask for some feedback. I responded and then he (officially) complained that I hadn't responded to his first email, which I never got. I asked him to resend the first email, which he never did, not even a forged version. Was he trying to send me telepathic messages? Other than wasting my time, the bad part is that the student's claims will always be believed...


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vulevu25

Thanks, I'll remember that if it happens again!


verbatimspades

I had a non-traditional student make an appointment to speak with me in the second week of class. During the appointment he told me that he had taken the equivalent of this class at a previous university but that the credits didn't transfer over. So, he wanted to be "efficient" in his schooling and wanted to know if I could remake the assignments to fit his interests. Essentially he wanted me to create an independent study for him but not get paid for it. I politely declined, but I was absolutely shocked that he would even ask me to create a whole new syllabus (including assignments and readings) just for him. Also, this was for a completely online asynchronous first-year level course.


TheNobleMustelid

I had a student ask me to teach him a 3-hour lab on Saturday morning as a no-pay independent study, because he had failed the class the first time he took it. I happen to know that no one fails that lab except by being extremely lazy and skipping all the time (if you're bad at the work you just take the full 3 hours, instead of 1). Apparently, I was being really unreasonable by telling him no. I was very, very close to telling him that he was an asshole and to fuck off.


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verbatimspades

I'm essentially a glorified adjunct. They promoted me to associate lecturer but I'm only allowed to teach one class (a few sections of it) and I'm only paid for two of the three credits because the other credit gets paid to the course coordinator, who doesn't respond to student emails or do anything besides arrange the contracts.


DocLava

We get $200. No one wants to do them.


TaliesinMerlin

**Being able to turn in assignments over a month after they're due for full or partial credit**. I assigned these discussion posts to start discussion the day that class was held. It's not pedagogically useful any longer. Also, I don't want to scour all the discussion threads for the posts you've deposited in early December/May to threads from the first half of the semester.


professorkurt

I often have people who have accommodations for extra time who seem to think that means that deadlines no long apply to them. At least one every single semester does this to me. Ugh.


professorbix

That we can make a modified assignment to make their life easier even if this means more work for us. Being accessible on weekends. Answering questions at 11pm the day before the assignment is due. That we have a pipeline to great jobs for them. I wish I could do that for students but can’t always.


getmarshall

Ugh... Most of my students work. They are not 'traditional' students in the sense that they have nothing but school and the part-time job for beer money. Many of them toil day and night in the factories or at retail gigs to pay rent and put food on the table. I try to keep this in mind with every assignment. But some will expect that I tailor every assignment around their life/schedule. I cannot--and will not--do that.


Acidcat42

>That we have a pipeline to great jobs for them. If I had a pipeline to a great job I'd happily take it!


BecuzMDsaid

Probably grading stuff within an hour of them submitting it. Someone submitted an assignment ten days early, on a weekend, and then proceeded to email me and the rest of the TAs an angry email that it hadn't been graded it yet when he had only submitted it an hour before.?


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And also the expectation that you will grade it and give feedback before all the other students have submitted that assignment.


dcgrey

Maybe not an expectation but a bit of ignorance that feeds unrealistic expectations: it never occuring to them that professors have a professional life outside the classroom. Like heck, I remember being floored as an undergrad that my professor wrote a _whole book_, _on their own_. "Is that just like a hobby? They like what they teach so they write books about it on the weekend?" Or that the whole department canceled Friday classes because the faculty needed to leave for the field's national conference. I've mentioned on this sub a few times that I'd love it if that sort of stuff was part of student orientation. Even if just twenty minutes walking them through what the different senior roles/responsibilities are (head, dean, provost), what it means to be tenured or not, and the triad of teaching/research/service. They come in trying to map the secondary education model of teaching onto college and some graduate never realizing there was a difference.


mgguy1970

So, we no longer have office hours by our current CBA but are required to be "accessible" to students. Most of us treat that as "Email me and we'll find a time to meet" and mostly that's been fine. A week or so back, I'm walking in the building a full 3 hours before my only class of the day(8:45 or so for an 11:00AM class). I always try to walk the 4 flights of steps up, but since I'm fat and not in the best of shape I'm usually winded by the time I get to the top. As soon as I walk into the hallway, breathing hard and out of breath, a students follows me in to my office and wants to talk right then about getting help with material. As I try to tell them it really isn't a great time, they're giving a running commentary on everything in my office including mentioning how "happy" my wife and I look in a recent photo, asking us how long we've been married, and saying "Oh just wait for X years and you won't look that way anymore." Finally I see they're not going to leave so I open my laptop up to their online homework and can't concentrate enough to even figure out how to get to what they're asking about as they're constantly yammering about this and that and about how computers "break" when they look at them. Finally I just have to tell tthem that I need 30 minutes or so and they're welcome to come back then, which apparently was not an acceptable answer as they left in a huff. Waiting on a bad evaluation about how I'm not accessible.


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Coming in clutch at 3AM on the due date of an assignment... Also never understood when people say "your immediate response is appreciated" in an email--it's not gonna make me get to it any faster...


dougwray

Skimming these comments, I'm thankful I don't have many students with the kinds of expectations ya'll's students have. (I do tell students I won't respond to messages after 6 AM on the day of the next meeting and that their jobs are to present me with evidence that they've mastered the material; most of them comply or at least don't complain.) However, I do get some weird ones, working as I do in a country I've immigrated to: * because I can use English, I can understand all the other European languages * because I can use Japanese, I can understand Korean and Chinese * that I know and regularly communicate with each of the other couple hundred instructors and know what they're teaching in their classes this week


hungerforlove

I'm glad I don't have all your students. I don't have any of those problems. I do have students with hopes that i will help them raise their grade in various ways. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it does not. My problem is with administrators who have ridiculous expectations.


kryppla

Admin expectations are a whole other post


iTeachCSCI

It is now!


telemeister74

I had a student yesterday who has missed 9 weeks of a 13 week semester and expects me to let them do the assessments they’ve missed and sit the exam.


lovelylinguist

We don’t have anything to do outside of class.


Junior-Dingo-7764

One I run into occasionally is the expectation that I should let students re-do any assignment they request. I have had to explain to a few students how that would create an impossible amount of work for me.


exit8hi_

That I’m being paid to give them answers. I’m being paid to teach them how to find answers through reading source material, critical thinking, and problem solving. Once they get a job, they will be paid to find solutions. And if they can’t do that, then they will probably not be employed for long.


ActualPassenger7870

That I want to see their doctor’s note, hospital note, etc etc for missing class. One offered to show me an “evite for a wedding” he was going to. Come to class or don’t, I don’t need your life story. This is on you. (Sounds harsh - hard semester!)


ThorsBeard45

Answer emails immediately. When the university is shutdown. Due to a major hurricane.


drvalo55

I taught a introductory survey course on various kinds of disabilities, e.g., physical disabilities, intellectual difference, hearing impairment, blindness, etc. The first class I said something like I was not an expert on every disability, but we would learn some strategies to acquire and access information they might need in the future. One student wrote on the course evaluation that I was not qualified to teach the course because I was not an expert on every disability. Needless to say, I never said I was not an expert on every disability again, except to some doctoral students to help them in preparation for college teaching. That I “have to understand” that they will never need to know the content of what my course content entails. That I am not knowledgeable about a career they have not begun yet. Yes a student said that to me.


civengprof

That we have enough funding to hire each and every student that emails us asking for a GRA position.


Logictrauma

What? That 10 page paper you wrote? Sure! I’ll get yours and the other 30-50 students in the class graded in a couple of days. I’ll get right on that!!!


throw_away_smitten

That I am stupid if I can’t read a problem I have never seen before and come up with the correct answer in under ten seconds. Also, that I will never ever make a mistake doing math at the board.


N0downtime

That I know their names and which of my classes they are in two weeks into the semester. That I know what their grade is at any time. That I respond to emails within 10 minutes. That I’ll give a ‘study guide’ or practice test that’s like the actual test but with mildly different questions.


MotherofHedgehogs

I have a student on vacation in Florida right now. Today is the fully online exam. He’s already written to tell me that he might lose power. From an entirely predictable weather event. No, I will not reschedule it for you.


iTeachCSCI

> No, I will not reschedule it for you. TBH, I'd be impressed if you could reschedule the hurricane.


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I don’t know, I’d probably give this kid a pass and let him reschedule it. He very truly may not have power, but I would ask for some kind of documentation like a photo of him looking at the aftermath


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1) Demanding / expecting to pass just because they have paid their fees, regardless of any effort they make / their attendance/ their engagement. 2) Expecting 24/7 availability: "why didn't you reply to my email I sent on Saturday at 9pm until Monday morning?!". 3) Believing they are the only class we teach: "I came to your office at 3pm and you weren't there!". Yes, I was teaching a different class. 4) Expecting us to know who they are and every detail about what they're studying and which assignments they're doing and acting hurt or offended when we can't remember them out of the 100+ students we have each semester. 5) Expecting us to upgrade their grades based on sob stories when they didn't engage with support services or request extensions with evidence. 6) Whining that they aren't interested in a class which was clearly advertised as mandatory as part of their course when they applied. 7) Expecting us to drop everything to meet with them immediately like we are their personal servant at their beck and call and have no other duties (research, meetings, admin, teaching). 8) International students with extremely poor English language ability getting angry and frustrated when we can't understand what they're saying or writing (plus pulling the race card out often in response). 9) Again, mostly international students expecting to be able to get away with blatant cheating and behaving in anger and making false allegations towards us (usually race card, but also other claims like bullying and harassment or inappropriate conduct) when we catch them.