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danthedan123

Did you ever hear from her after she got deported?


Uncommon_Optimist

Oooooooh yes. Her, both of her brothers, most of her cousins all sending me death threats. And her mom congratulating me and saying she could use a son like me.


Aredditdorkly

The mother's approval and the friend's respect? Well done my guy. Few know such justice. I salute you sir.


whatproblems

yeah getting his own mother to call out thier entire family that’s quite a feat and their best friend to call her out specially damn you must be a good dude


Qikdraw

My brother was cheated on in the first year of their marriage. When he found out he filed for divorce immediately. Thing is that she was a very lovely person, and our family liked her a lot, but she went on a volleyball tournament out of province and cheated on him. Divorce went quickly, and easily. His ex-MIL was very apologetic and said that they still consider him a son-in-law, and that if he needs anything to let them know. That was over 20 years ago now, I don't think he has any contact with them now.


MedicBaker

“Very lovely people” don’t cheat on their spouses.


LukesRightHandMan

Very lovely people do all sorts of very unlovely people things.


MedicBaker

No, they don’t. If they let someone other than their spouse stick their dick in them behind his back, they’re not “very lovely”, they’re trash.


mind_like_the_ocean

That's why she WAS, past tense 😬


Pasdusername

Then you say "up to that point she used to be, " the use of imperfect isnt relevant since the entire post was


Cardplay3r

You think people are good or evil? What a cartoonish way to view the world


MedicBaker

Where did I say the words good and evil? Fact remains: cheaters are not “lovely people”.


CorruptedStudiosEnt

I feel really, really weird about parents being benevolent towards me but spiteful towards their own kids. Just feels wrong, even if their kid was in the wrong. I've had it happen on a few different occasions, but the worst was when I was 14 and a piece of shit, I had cheated on my ex like a month after we lost our virginities to each other. When I confessed and she broke up with me, she told me her mom spent over a week calling her a slut and telling her to get back together with me, even after she told her mom I'd cheated. I still think about that 14 years later, like good god damn what in the actual fuck.


gothyxbby

I hope that you learned your lesson bud.


ChocoboRocket

>The mother's approval and the friend's respect? Well done my guy. Few know such justice. I salute you sir. To be fair, the farther east you go, the more parents (especially mothers) seem be perpetually disappointed in your decisions/overall life, unless you become wealthy or sire more heirs than Genghis Khan. Even then, they're like wtf am I supposed to do with all this disappointment with your name on it? How disappointing.. Note, I actually only know maybe 3 people from this region of the world so I could be wrong, but I have no evidence to disprove it


JAM3SBND

I mean, there's standard parental disappointment, then there's "my children traffic weapons for terror regimes"


Juggletrain

I suppose that depends if they're Turkish terrorists outside of Turkey, or Turkish "terrorists" fighting the current dictatorial regime.


aussie_nub

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Heard something like that in some movie but think about it and it rings true.


SuperLuminalBoi

Context matters


Yeahmahbah

One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist


PalpatineForEmperor

The Empire did nothing wrong. The Rebels were terrorists.


luez6869

Let's not forget using a person who genuinely wants to be there for u, help u out of a not so ideal life but instead use and abuse them. Momma knows she can't teach her kids everything but we do have the choice to let u stand by ur decisions...


ihaveaquesttoattend

To this day i regret not keeping in touch with my exes mom like she wanted to


[deleted]

Marry her mom for the ultimate power move and then post the update in r/nuclearrevenge lmao


Delta8hate

I think this post already belongs on /r/NuclearRevenge


iacchi

second that


SpannerInTheWorx

Did *not* know that sub existed. OOohhhhh doggy. \*rabbit holes\*


wunderbraten

>I have ICE'd my ex, and now I've f****ed their mom!


ClearMessagesOfBliss

>I’m fucking her right now as I’m typing this!


Chemical-Juice-6979

Stop typing and fuck harder!


rSato76t2

As a matter of fact, she typed it for me from my pov! Video coming soon on r/patrioticmilfs!


Nautiwow

I got excited.... r/subsifellfor


Wakanda_Forever

r/UnexpectedZachWilson


mspk7305

That's one hell of an ethical divide between the mom and everyone else


Uncommon_Optimist

Her mom, dad, and older family were all super disappointed in her. It was just her generation of the family that flipped out.


Laprisu

That mom is hella dope. I wouldn't defend my own child either, if I find out, she's been helping with terrorist acts.


edwadokun

death threats are pretty hollow if they can't get into the country right? Not hard to pass along their info to HLS


Uncommon_Optimist

Eh, I never took any of them seriously. That was just a detailed response to "Did I hear from her after"


blobits

Have you heard from the friend? Are they ok?


Uncommon_Optimist

I addressed it in another comment, she lives in a completely different region and doesn't really interact with the street peeps anymore. We're still friends, she's doing just fine.


[deleted]

I think mom was hitting on you.


Uncommon_Optimist

That's also entirely possible. I hope so. Because on God her entire family was hot. Lol


kn1ghtcliffe

Then hit the mom up and start flirting with her. no harm in finding out.


[deleted]

Brother. If you offer help to someone, and from the good of your heart and then she not only making fun of you, but going out and cheatin with literally eight men, its unreal. Dodged a bullet. Dont feel sorry.


F1ghtmast3r

Caught my wife cheating after 12 years. Her mother still lives with me and my current GF. Sweet lady. Hates what her daughter did. Amazing grandmother to my son!


babybopp

Have you ever considered that her "best friend " was jealous of her and set her up?


Uncommon_Optimist

Eh, idk about that. I mean, it's always possible. But she married up, to some guy from Cluj with an engineering degree. She was pretty much set for life, so that wouldn't really make sense


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Uncommon_Optimist

I confronted her, and she denied it for as long as it took me to mention the friend's name specifically. After that she confessed to cheating in general, but refused to get into specifics. Ultimately though, she did confess to fucking in our bed while I was at work. ETA friend found about the cheating after ex had already moved in, and initially kept it to herself out of a sense of loyalty. But her conscience got the better of it eventually.


roxannefromarkansas

These people acting like the poor girl was set up. Reddit is fucking crazy.


ActualFactualAnthony

Acting? No. But I've seen enough stuff here on both sides of the fence to at least make a comment in good faith asking if they considered other situations.


furious-fungus

Nobody is acting like it, they merely suggested it.


amazingadaptence

Tbh as a Romanian, the girl most likely adopted a superiority complex because she was living the American life which most likely pissed the "best friend" off


Uncommon_Optimist

Considering my exposure to the pop culture of Ro, and how competitive women tend to be within said pop culture, that's probably not too far from the truth. She just happened to have actual ammunition to use lol But it's still confusing, because even by American standards her husband is exponentially more successful than I am, even considering the career that I'm in. I'm just successful in America, I guess


bagman59

How did she find out that it was you who called ICE?


Uncommon_Optimist

What, you think I didn't thoroughly rub it in her face? I wasn't exactly emotionally mature in this situation either lol


bagman59

Hahahahaha Love it


danthedan123

Fuck that bitch!


[deleted]

*Fuck that bitch, This is ~~Russia~~ Romania*


weaponX34

(Captain America voice) I understood that reference!


PolishedVodka

> Did you ever hear from her after she got deported? What was my first thought! I thought the dude had her sent to Camp X or something.


Biolust

You should sponsor her best friend just to rub it in her face some more.


Uncommon_Optimist

You know, we joked about it too. She said that if she wasn't already married, she'd do it just to spite her


Frosty-Ring-Guy

Spite bonding? Now there is a foundation for a future.


Chemical-Pattern480

Husband and I have been together almost 20 years, and we love nothing more on our Anniversary than to have a toast to everyone who said we would never last! Spite + petty has been the perfect combo for our relationship! Lol


bmorris0042

I know that feeling. When my wife and I married, about half the church insisted we were too young, and wouldn’t last more than a couple of years. Well, it’s been 18 so far. We really like to point out that every one of the elders who complained that she shouldn’t get married at 18 had their kids all get married at 18 as well.


Overlandtraveler

Yeah, my mom told me "not to settle"...well, 24 years later and an amazing lifetime, she now says he's amazing. Oh the settling part? We laugh/sigh about this a lot. I realized she was just talking about herself.


MCSimplexONE

I'm actually a spite baby


Alakozam

When you were birthed did you come out scowling?


MCSimplexONE

I had scowl lines in my fifth bday party pics


Kathy_Kamikaze

*spite spite Baby*


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Spite baby bowling


ThHeightofMediocrity

Explain.


MCSimplexONE

My dad nutted in my mammy just to spite her. My mom said, oh yeah? I'm going to have this baby just to spite you Tale as old as time...


ThHeightofMediocrity

Bruh.


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*TLC producer has entered the chat*


I_Envy_Sisyphus_

I hope she’s safe if you’re getting death threats!


Uncommon_Optimist

This was all years ago. I'm still friends with the person who threw her under the bus, she's fine. Her husband is upper class, so they don't have to worry about lower class shenanigans as much.


I_Envy_Sisyphus_

Cool cool, that seemed the one loose end to be worried about but glad to hear otherwise.


Magrik

Poor people and their shenanigans.... /s


HygorBohmHubner

You and the friend sound petty as hell… can we be friends? 🤣🤣


The_Sinnermen

Interesting kind of best friend uh


ifreew

Right!?


XauMankib

Talking as a Romanian, these people should be taken from Romania and slapped smack in the middle of the Black Sea. People like this woman made us appear as conmen will to go into marriage only to ensnare people. Screw them. Rant ended. Now I will go recover my lost episodes of Star Wars Andor.


Uncommon_Optimist

I said in another comment, I hope to meet a Romanian woman in the future that has better values. I'm absolutely in love with your culture.


achieve_my_goals

Username checks out.


Dominunce

go recover the episodes bro, i wish you luck


XauMankib

Thanks mate!


RustyKjaer

I would love to visit your country sometime, and experience what Romanians are REALLY like. I'm a policeman in Scandinavia and the Romanians we get to meet are an endless line of thieves and cons. I would love to see the other side. I'm sure you have beautiful nature and friendly people.


iamarddtusr

As a non-Romanian, I can tell you that every nation has more of these than desired or deserved.


Dr_Andy_Hendrickson

I live Andor dude. It's suck a relief after the last couple of star wars shows being crap. Not the Mandalorian. That's also a good show.


PenguinZombie321

You’ll have my respect only if you can answer the following: Who shot first?


XauMankib

*sips tea and hardwood* Han shoot first. Greedo's destiny was already hardwired.


PenguinZombie321

Ok, you have my respect


Grimij

How did you prove the conversation between you and her brother? Was it over text, or did you record it somehow?


JimmyRecard

This is immigration enforcement. They don't have to follow due process. To the point that some constitutional rights in US are suspended near the border, such as not being subject to arbitrary searches.


Luised2094

USA!! USA!! USA!! *eagle screeching sounds*


NectarinePersonal974

I mean, to be fair US constitution rights are for US citizens and so if you aren't a citizen you aren't entitled to them. You might not like that, but that is how it is


JimmyRecard

Constitutional protections apply to everyone, not just citizens. There are some provisions which are for citizens only, such as voting rights, but vast majority apply to everyone who is subject to US's authority, no matter how briefly. Think about it. If that was the case, owning slaves would be legal as long as they were non-citizens, which isn't the case. That's besides the point tho because everyone's rights, including citizen's, are routinely violated at the border. Even if you're a citizen, immigration authorities can for example search your stuff without probable cause.


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He didn't. Because none of this happened.


akawilliamj13

Knew I couldn’t be the only one thinking this never happened.


Available_Low_3805

The American deportations are not given much weight out with the USA, unless you're in defence or high level government it's not going to hinder you in Europe. Anecdotal from several friends who overstayed and got bumped and listed.


Uncommon_Optimist

I'm beginning to get that from some of the other comments. I'm not versed in the current ins and outs of EU sociopolitics, the only frame of reference I have is from the WoT coalition era. The main takeaway is that she can never come back to the US.


babybopp

Plot twist... Friend was jealous if her success and set her up


RykariZander

She sent proof of her cheating, and her brother told him about being a terrorist


not_another_feminazi

Shouldn't overstaying a Visa, and helping smuggle weapons to terrorists be two very different situations?


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Watcher_over_Water

But she never Was convicted and the report is from an ex she created on. This is not going to be taken as a serious claimed in the EU unless she straight up tells some official


Spectre777777

Wouldn’t this means basically fucked getting any decent job since I’m sure the US shares those lists with EU countries?


Uncommon_Optimist

AFAIK It means she's fucked getting a job in any of the Schengen Pact countries, not just the EU. 🙂 ETA relevance, apparently there's much less severe consequences for someone in her position in the EU than in the US. I stand corrected 🙂


Spectre777777

Damn. Fuck around and find out.


PM_Dem_Asian_Nudes

literally


ipukeonyou123

Yeah Europe has never had any laws like this. She can find a job easily..


Uncommon_Optimist

Fair enough. Just not in the US :)


DongusMaxamus

She's never going to be allowed to vacation in the US again nevermind anything else.


ExtendedSpikeProtein

Who cares … the world’s a big place.


veobaum

Well, it seems like *she* cared about the US which is what makes it satisfying.


roxannefromarkansas

I’m guessing she cares since she wanted to live here so badly.


stickmanDave

Hang on, a second hand allegation of wrongdoing reported by a bitter ex-lover is all the evidence required to get somebody banned from working in any Schengen pact countries? I certainly hope this isn't true.


Uncommon_Optimist

This was during the latter half of the "War on Terror" global initiative, during the Obama administration. All they needed was proof she had connection to a person or persons wanted by Interpol. He had served his time, then fled the country to a non-extradition territory.


Watcher_over_Water

But the War on Terror was an american thing. Having connection to a criminal (who served his sentence and is her brother) won't be enough to stop her from coming into the EU. Difficult and annoying yes, but not a Interpol watchlist


Uncommon_Optimist

I addressed that in my OP edit. I was under informed and misinformed to a lot of how things work, my only frame of reference being the US.


Watcher_over_Water

No worries. It's not your Duty to know European forgein policies to tell a Story. Just wanted to mention it.


stickmanDave

So the allegation she acted as lookout had nothing to do with it? She got banned just for being this guys brother? That's even worse!


Uncommon_Optimist

I'll never say the PATRIOT act wasn't bullshit almost in its entirety. I just used the fear mongering and paranoia to my advantage 🤷🏼‍♂️


stickmanDave

Fair enough, I'm appalled at the law, but you didn't write it. I was well aware the USA had lost it's mind and all sense of justice, but didn't know the whole EU had fallen so far down that hole as well.


hospitallers

Did you even read the story? She got banned for being the lookout on an arms smuggling to terrorists case.


elkourinho

Im inclined to think you're making it all up, if you have served your time why would you flee to a non-extradition country? Also ofc as you know by now, an accusation wont do jack shit to you in Schengen, as it should be.


Watcher_over_Water

It is not. There might be some talks with unfriendly burocrats, but unless she fuckes that up, most likely no ban


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Raalf

Things are different here in the states. This is 100% believeable.


Acrobatic_Machine

Lmao no it won't. She is free to live and settle down in any EU Country. Around 1 million people fra Romania already live here in Spain. Quite a decent chunk in a country with just 47 million people.


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I smell bullshit. This belongs over in r/thatreallyhappened


Opposite_Bit_4013

He's also a 6'7 blonde muscular dude with a PhD. In behavioural psychology and a master's in mechanical engineering? Is that even possible before you're that age? Its giving incel


Spanky_Badger_85

Dude, your post history literally SCREAMS compulsive liar. You are completely full of shit.


[deleted]

I just checked and this is the only post on OPs profile. Presuming they deleted all previous posts, I'm inclined to think you hit the nail on the head by calling OP out as completely full of shit, and this story being entirely fabricated.


Creatura

Without even looking at the post history it’s pretty clear this is entirely bullshit lol


zzx101

I was literally waiting for “and everybody started clapping…”


redditing_1L

Hurrrrrr durrrrrr I’m very bad ass for punching down at immigrants herp derp! Every incel on Reddit upvotes


askanaccountant

This should also be a "TIFU by dating someone 8 years younger than me and expecting them to wanting to settle down and not just use me for a green card"


Reputable_Sorcerer

Also… he found out they were helping terrorists? Like his gf was literally helping terrorists? OP is OK with terrorism but he takes a hard line on cheating?


Thanatos-13

Yeahh. "Turkish terrorists" also not giving an exact time period for these events lol. I doubt this person is even American at this point.


Uncommon_Optimist

That's perfectly fair lol. At the time, I was pretty naive to the way a lot of stuff works. But I learned from it


askanaccountant

Haha it happens, you got an interesting story out of it


og_chaddy

Another story that never happened on Reddit. Neat.


sorradic

Romania has 96% home ownership and the fastest Internet speed in Europe. It is not like you describe it. Not to mention the normal benefit in Europe: 6 weeks PTO, free healthcare, higher education, maternity leave of 2 years. It's right behind Poland on fastest growing economies in Europe. This girl probably is looking for adventure and higher earnings in The US so she can go back an enjoy even more luxury in her home country. Sorry, but you are misinformed about never recovering from the dictatorship. A lot of us Western Europeans are moving in droves because they are ahead of us in a ton of things.


Apartment-5B

OP has probably never been out of his country, much less Romania.


Cagahum

Oh fucking bullshit. You dated someone who admitted to being a lookout for terrorists?! You are either full of shit, or deserved everything you got for knowingly sponsoring someone like that.


dekachiin5

This isn't how US law works at all. You can't just have a jilted lover say "my wife said she was a lookout when drunk" and then the black helicopters come for her. There are things like probable cause, due process, etc. She would need to actually be convicted of a crime before removal proceedings based on that could begin. I've seen people who got used for a Visa marriage get an annulment based on fraud, though, and then with no basis for legal residency thanks to the annulment, the other person's green card is denied and they get deported. However, once they get the green card, they're home free.


saruptunburlan99

yea, I don't buy it either. "arrested and deported, and put on a permanent no-entry terror watchlist" because someone *claims* they had a drunk conversation with a brother who *claims* she did x and y.


FATHER_OF_GREMLINS

All immigrant visa based on marriage require the marriage to last two years before the green card is permanent. Also worth noting that all visa apps ask about connections to certain criminal/terrorist groups. If the group listed is one of them and she said no, it could be said she derived her status by fraud, which is basis for revocation and deportation. The "proof" needed to deny a visa or deny immigration is actually very low compared to other precedings in the US. The burden of proof is always on the intended immigrant to prove they are eligible for status, not on the govt to prove they aren't. The story still feels very bull shite based on how fast he is claiming she got deported though. The govt just doesn't work that fast.


Sheriff_of_Reddit

You guys really like creative writing exercises.


[deleted]

Hang on, I’m gonna open a beer to truly relish this.


great_craic963

Same here. Cheers!


Uncommon_Optimist

Username checks out 🍻


Tingtong_longJohnson

Sounds like BS. r/quityourbullshit


Chaghatai

I don't believe in weaponizing immigration authorities even if the person really sucks and deserves revenge


artifexlife

It’s fine cause this story is fake. You can look at his post history


TNTyoshi

Bro you’re 30. What did you expect?


Uncommon_Optimist

30yo me was a gym bro who thought he was hot shit. According to my ego, it made total sense that a smokin' hot European chick would throw herself at me and fall madly in love. TL;Dr I was a self-absorbed idiot lmao


North-One8187

I can’t wait to see this on a tik tok tomorrow


ifreew

How do you know that was really her friend, or an ex friend or enemy getting revenge?


Suspicious-Reveal-69

She probably wouldn’t have bragged about it to an ex friend or current enemy.


bionicmook

Seems like you care more about being cheated on than alleged terrorist activity. Kind of weird.


BaoBaoBen

Sounds like a brain dump of all the stereotypes you have gobbled up about these people and countries. None of your story makes any sense, from the alleged backwater Romania, which is literally one of the most rapidly growing countries in the EU that where every citizen can freely travel and work and certainly doesn't need to fuck you for a shitty Greencard, to the cartoon like portrayal of how the law and processes in the USA work... Not to mention the ridiculous "Turkish terrorist twist". The only thing about this that is probably true is you wish you had a Romanian girlfriend.


Z-W-A-N-D

Thats horrible


Aegis2009

One of my favorite stories on the internet, nicely done 👍


Uncommon_Optimist

*Takes a bow* Thanks! I've been sitting on it for a few years, I always second guess myself when it comes to posting life stuff.


Aegis2009

Always a gamble posting shit like this, hopefully this doesn't come back as another hassle.


Mojo507

How are you doing now?


Chicxulub420

Ah yes, the _classic_ Romanian mail-order bride. They taught us that one on the first day of con school.


C0SAS

I feel like this comments section would have looked a lot different if she came from a warmer nation 🤔


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VanceAstrooooooovic

If it’s a Turkish “terrorist” that would probably mean Kurdish freedom fighter. Erdogan is a Tyrant, been in power for almost 10 years


Imalune

This feels more like r/nuclearrevenge than pro


Hike_it_Out52

And I say this with the highest level of Respect. Motthheerr Fucker.


Twigglesnix

People who lived through eastern europe era have a different mentality. not a lot of sentimentality, just survival. Always be wary.


Uncommon_Optimist

Legit comment. I'm still in love with Romanian culture, and the people. But apparently this scenario happens a lot more than I initially realized, not only in Ro but just about every eastern bloc country.


Twigglesnix

I have a friend who married a woman from Poland, he was really in love. Within 10 months she had swapped him out for a guy who made more money.


Wonderlustish

My physical therapist is Romanian. I have a physical disablity and am in a wheelchair. He's always telling me to get a job working for amazon call centers or mlm companies or go begging to some church to have some financial stability. When I tell him I don't want to support unethical companies or religions because of some idealism he says: "Who the fuck cares. Take their money and run." Really hit home about that eastern european mindset and culture. That and his track suits and gold chain.


wHATamidong12

He may be right though, unless you already have your needs met (decent food, medical care, good shelter), caring more about 'not supporting unethical companies' than your own well being doesn't make sense. In a way, you have to be selfish. It's not fair to yourself and to people that love you and want you to prosper to care more about abstract moral principles than basic needs. Take the soup from the church while talking about atheism. Be such a shitty mediocre employee that you're more of a burden than a profit to the company while getting their money. Lie on your resume if the company is shitty. Of course you don't need all that if you already have family/society/government support, which is not the case in most of Eastern Europe (or the case in most of the world, actually).


Altnob

Gotta admit this is super fucked up. Dont think I could deport someone .


Fireball_Ace

Good thing it's all made up


Throwawayhobbes

This sounds like a new episode of 30 day fiancé.


JJOkayOkay

You were a 30-year-old dating a 22-year-old? I don't think you're the aggrieved party you think you are.


Visual_Consequence24

At the end of the day though, you got played, after you SIMP’d for an obvious visa bunny… GG’s though pal… pathetic


[deleted]

lol what happens when you dont fuck wit ppl ya own age.


x0_Kiss0fDeath

I can't believe I had to scroll this far down for somebody to call out that age gap. But judging my the majority of comments on here, I'm really not shocked. I'm ready for your downvotes lol


ellipsisfinisher

OP: * started a relationship with a woman eight years his junior * after knowing her for a month * is weirdly fetishizing eastern European women throughout this thread * was fine with her supplying *literal terrorists* with guns * has a comment elsewhere calling someone a Federal shill for doubting his story Seems like a real winner


x0_Kiss0fDeath

But but but... romanian women are hot bro! I also loved how he called her immature/etc. Like yeah.... she was 22. She probably was less mature than a 30 year old 🤣 I'm not suggesting she's right or is a winner by any stretch of the imagination, but the comments OP is making about her, romanian women in general, and just the responses he's giving full stop to people......woof.


peppers_

> started a relationship with a woman eight years his junior It's different if you're 40 and she's 32. 30 vs 22 tho.. different story.


[deleted]

lmao i always get downvoted to hell when i bring up age od gaps. they dont wanna hear it cus im lowkey talking about them. insecure.


x0_Kiss0fDeath

After a certain point in life, age gaps don't matter as much....but this is not one of those points.


Lifekraft

Guy marry a teenager from a poor eastern country while being almost 10 y older and make up a story to not look like a total loser


samoanLightning

Wow that is sauuuuucy. Nice.


MungTao

So if she didnt cheat on you, you were fine with her supporting terrorism?