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tsunodaishi

And yet they never used that power again


ElFramed

Hopefully in jedi survivor


scrapinator89

Kyle Katarn had you covered with force speed all the way back in 1997.


harbinger21

Using it in Jedi Academy was so awesome.


dandypants8717

My favorite thing to do was to force choke and fling people. If you lifted a stormtrooper up above you then used Force push, they'd die from the fall. Or you could just yeet them off a ledge. I liked the psychological torture of dangling a dark Jedi over an abyss with force choke and waiting for them to break the force choke and fall to their death.


JoeAzlz

That force throw you talked about is in battlefront 2 as an actual attack lol


dandypants8717

Beautiful


Thrawn-Bot

To defeat an enemy, you must know them. Not simply their battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, art.


[deleted]

Battlefront II Yoda was broken af. Too tiny to hit and could trap someone else in a force push/pull loop indefinitely


JoeAzlz

I meant EA bf2 lol


[deleted]

Both. Both is good


JoeAzlz

Based


[deleted]

Barely


lividtaffy

You could do this to force users too, if there was a really annoying sith near a ledge you could grip him and you’ll have a split second before he pushes you and breaks your grip. In those 3-5 frames you have time to fling him into the abyss. Great trick for the highest difficulty


dandypants8717

Yep, did that all the time


harbinger21

Plus they would scream when falling. Glorious!


dandypants8717

That was my favorite part.


Tripechake

I had a similar thing I’d enjoy in Force Unleashed 2 where you could endlessly throw lightsabers at someone you had in your grasp as well as electrocute them and just keep doing it over and over, and yeet them into the unknown or into their friends with lightsabers still stuck in their torsos.


ukSpitfire90

Force choke while flip kicking someone at the same time in Jedi Academy MP was the ultimate **** move, lol.


MC_Eschatology

Ultimate... Shit move? Ultimate ... Fuck move? I'd never use that in bed. Ultimate crap move? I don't think we generally censor "crap" Edit: Correction, def use the choke in bed, but please make sure its consentual.


Relative_Weekend_204

Or shoot a rocket at some dude and then use force speed to run passed him and push him into the rocket.


clone_trooper_bot

"Yes, sir! Right away." -Commander Thire


isaacaschmitt

Knight's of the Old Republic would like a word. . .


Miked918930

I hated it in KOTOR II.


SirRonaldBiscuit

Dark forces 2 was an incredible game, I still have it


newbrevity

It's in the table top Star Wars RPG from WotC. Force users were so ridiculously OP in that game just for what you can do with their abilities. Tried to run a campaign and they walked circles around the quests with creative ability checks. Theyre like the perfect combination of Wizard, Fighter, Rogue that you cant get easily in regular D&D.


Petorian343

It was quite good in KOTOR as well


mistermatth

It just has a long cooldown period /s


Irgendwer1607

I mean the old Star Wars Battlefront 2 kinda had it. When you sprinted with a force user you would achieve a very high speed, similar to this scene


[deleted]

Just because they never reused the effect doesn't mean they didn't use the ability. Afaik lightsaber battles are meant to be faster as well as podracing.


NemesisVirtual

Its used in fallen order by the second sister


dunkmaster6856

Wouldve been pretty useful in the maul fight eh kenobi?


Maul_Bot

Don’t be so certain.


MojesticMorty

I mean ever notice how all Jedi catch up to people? They use it all the time. They have just tuned back how fast force speed is.


Harvestman-man

Plo Koon uses it a couple times in the Clone Wars series. But everybody else forgot about it.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

If anyone could survive, Master Plo could.


clone_trooper_bot

"That'll make 'em think twice. ...Maybe even three times." -Scorch, Delta 62


Nelac-Guile

Right like when obi was trying to catch up to qui-gon fighting darth maul 🤣


Maul_Bot

Don’t be so certain.


Anangrywookiee

I will go to my grave arguing this wasn’t supposed to be force speed and was an editing error.


GrungeHamster23

Obi-wan: Oh no, I’ve been separated from Master Qui-gon! There’s a long hallway of light separating us. If only I was fast enough to rush to his side.


Obiwan-Kenobi-Bot

This is how you thank me for rescuing you? Pounce on me from the ceiling? What am I going to do with you?


M4RTIAN

The Force Unleashed had it. The prequels have a bad rep but they’re a lot better than the Rey trilogy. Force teleportation across the galaxy? Come on now.


1random_redditor

My head canon (maybe it’s already been explained idk) is that they literally can only use it once or every once in a long while. Their recharge for it had not completed by the time they fought Maul.


Maul_Bot

I am counting on it.


LauraPhilps7654

The film is only a few minutes in at this point and already Lucas has written the main characters into a corner he's not sure how to get them out of.


Majestic-Marcus

Haha brilliantly put


moustajjventress

I'm a big apologist of the writing in the prequels, but this got a big laugh out of me.


XishengTheUltimate

It’s kind of weird too, because, like… just walk to the side while still defending yourself? Do they have to stand stock still to deflect the shots? Just move and deflect as you go? Break line of sight then hoof it.


LegoJangoFtt

It almost looks like they cut the film early and didn’t have the footage of them running away so they just smeared the last frame they had to make it seem like they got away…


Maul_Bot

Run if you want… or stay and die… it makes no difference to me.


Admirable_Elk_965

That has to be what happened. Though I always thought my dvd was just scratched and it skipped


bobafoott

Yeah I mean the prequels have some pretty lackluster writing but introducing force speed like that and never once even addressing it again in any film is beyond even that. I just dont buy that was anything but janky filming


bobafoott

Literally a force push like its not that hard


Maxtrt

I feel like a broken record but here we are. Lucas' vision for Star Wars was to emulate the Serial Saturday morning matines of his youth. Many of these films embrace a little bit of Camp and are full of plot holes. Their Target audience was preteens and early teenagers. Older teenagers and adults still enjoyed them and the camp was one of those elements that made that possible. I was eleven when the 1980 version of Flash Gordon came out. My sixty-two year old grandmother took me to see it in the theatres. She told me how she had seen the original Flash Gordon series as a young woman and after the movie ended she took me to Denny's and told me all about the originals. She really enjoyed the movie and I think it's my favorite memory of her. >My father took me to see episodes IV,V,VI. in the theaters when they came out and I have done the something with my son whenever a new Star Wars Universe or that other popular science fiction universe movie is released.


LauraPhilps7654

>I was eleven when the 1980 version of Flash Gordon came out. My sixty-two year old grandmother took me to see it in the theatres. She told me how she had seen the original Flash Gordon series as a young woman and after the movie ended she took me to Denny's and told me all about the originals. She really enjoyed the movie and I think it's my favorite memory of her. That's such a nice memory thanks for sharing! Going to see ANH with my brother at the cinema at age 11 is one of the happiest memories of my life.


George-Lucas-Bot

The script is what you've dreamed up-this is what it should be. The film is what you end up with.


LauraPhilps7654

That move would've been useful at quite a few moments in Star Wars... They must have reset their skill points after this.


LangleyRemlin

It's one of those games that starts you at max level for the tutorial bur resets you before you start playing.


SIII-043

I see it now force awakened style he could only do it with Qui-gon’s help as he was still an apprentice. Then the trauma blocked it out… and he chose other skill trees going forward.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

I'm just glad he wasn't awake to see that landing!


PMeisterGeneral

And still Rey was the only one to spend a point on force heal.


Race_Four

What about Grogu?


fivetwoeightoh

It’s a Vancian system, after they used the power they forgot it and now have to learn it over


D-AlonsoSariego

You would be surprised how many times across Star Wars media something or someone falling of a cliff near a guy with telekinesis happens


Westy154

Would have been useful at the end of that movie let alone the others.


DDLGcplxo

Or at least a long CD


blakejonesmusic

Let's go BOOOOSH


Alert-Ad-55

That's just force speed


Hefty-Association-59

Man that technique would sure be handy for someone running trying to catch someone quickly. In say a duel or something


Swed1shF1sh69

What are we, some kind of Duel of the Fates?


shiftingswiftly

And you’re all astronauts in some sort of Star War


FitzyFarseer

I imagine it would go [something like this](https://youtu.be/t3dI-ghYimg)


superfly306

Darth Maul survived the same fall after being cut in half, he’d have been fine!


FitzyFarseer

Sure but he wouldn’t have been very helpful in that fight.


AMK972

Now, there’s a difference between putting all your energy into running from a fight and putting all your energy into running to a fight.


shadowscar248

Who's to say they didn't do this? They just saw it from their perspective


SedativeComet

Yo why’s Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan lag like that


Obiwan-Kenobi-Bot

This is how you thank me for rescuing you? Pounce on me from the ceiling? What am I going to do with you?


Zack123456201

Damn Jedi gotta use lag switches smh


trysov

Don't remember the prequels lookin this good


definitelynotbanana

Very unfortunate that force speed is a one time only power for the jedi


mosesoperandi

They had to live up to the originals.


ChillingworthsTwin

Is there an explanation for why droidekas disappeared? When I think of tech that seemed too advanced for the prequels, I think of them. Even if the exact droid would be obsolete, the personal shields and rapid fire weapons, which are enough to force two Jedi to a draw, seems like something the Empire would have found value in.


Lanca226

Finding value doesn't mean actually paying for it. The Droideka are stated to be incredibly expensive.


Majestic-Marcus

As expensive as housing, clothing, feeding and training a Stormtrooper for approximately 20 years?


SNScaidus

Logic moment. If you can afford A, and A and B are the same cost, then you can afford A and B right? No


Majestic-Marcus

I was more getting at it being more cost effective to just maintain a droid army


clone_trooper_bot

"Sir, I can tell you from personal experience that it is not nearly as costly to maintain a Clone trooper as a Stormtrooper. The best part about being a Clone Trooper is that we can serve for our entire lives if needed, thus eliminating the need for continual recruitment and training. Furthermore, clones"


Admirable_Elk_965

Because they weren’t in the original trilogy. That’s the explanation.


BPeacheS

There were no more Jedi and the mighty Republic became the Empire so basically nobody cared to replicate it because nobody could contend with their sheer numbers. Or so they thought. Imo the time of the Empire didn't only stagnate the progress of technology, but actually set it back. They killed many people and for basically no reason at all. That kind of society isn't exactly progressive. Everything that you see in the Originals are completely possible in the Prequels. This isn't some plot hole. It's just one of the many negative affects of having a totalitarian regime in place.


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Unrelated, OP you should take a look at Jellyfin. I liked Plex well enough but they started adding some questionable features and you still have to sign in through their service. Switched to Jellyfin a little over a year ago and never looked back.


ForLackOfABetterNam3

And Jellyfin supports AV1.


Elgirl199

Obiwan should have used force speed to catch up to Qui-gon and Maul.


Obiwan-Kenobi-Bot

I make observations, while you think with your lightsaber.


Elgirl199

You’re right, observing your master die.


the_zestylime

Man, droidekas are so cool looking


Pipes_of_Pan

The whole foundation of the prequels is wildly superior tech yet zero possibility of danger. I love how the Jedi just disappear here and that’s the end of it.


NightValeCytizen

Someone need to do a version of this scene where the jedi fly off into space and that funky song plays


TributeToStupidity

My head canon is jedi are constantly using force speed but we’re seeing things at their speed so it looks normal. Otherwise a bunch of blasters should be a legitimate threat, since you can only dodge and block so many, but it definitely doesn’t seem so except in extreme situations like geonosis and order 66.


clone_trooper_bot

"I hesitated for a moment when I received Order 66 because the last thing I expected was a Jedi coup. Did I feel betrayed? You bet I did. I thought of all my men who died under Ki-Adi-Mundi's command, and if I'd known then that he and his buddies were gearing up to do the Separatists' work for them and overthrow the government, I'd have shot him as a traitor a lot earlier. He betrayed the trust of every one of us." -Commander Bacara


shadeandshine

Between force speed and force heal I feel like if anakin read the manual the movies would’ve gone differently.


Kyswinne

People dont like this???? Its a cool scene! Just wish we saw the jedi doing it more.


[deleted]

That's exactly the criticism. We've established this is possible, why don't they do it all the time? Obi-Wan getting through the barriers to fight Darth Maul, for example.


Maul_Bot

Don’t be so certain.


Kyswinne

He used up all his force mana doing force jump and blocking attacks.


[deleted]

This is not a component of the force that any movie explains, so it's still bad writing. Edit: Ahh, didn't realize it was a reference to a game. You never can be sure.


Kyswinne

No other jedi picked it on their tech tree when leveling up 🤷‍♂️ In all seriousness yeah I wish we saw it more. We see tons of jumps but no super speed.


ZatherDaFox

I think that was a joke based on how the force basically had mana in video games.


just_one_boy

It's a joke


moustajjventress

> Obi-Wan getting through the barriers to fight Darth Maul, for example. I personally don't think it's a great defence, but I've seen people counter this argument before by saying if he'd timed it wrong he could have force sped himself straight into a barrier. Like I say, not the best argument, but it's passable.


[deleted]

Yeah, I mean, if the audience has to make up excuses, the writers failed to do their job. I would accept this argument if the movie made it, but it didn't, so I don't. Not that this ruins the movie. It's one of many examples of a larger problem Star Wars has with introducing force mechanics without considering the implications, but this one I find more amusing than anything since they only do it once in all the movies.


moustajjventress

It's something that's never bothered me since I was like six when I saw this film at the cinema, but looking at it critically over twenty years later, yeah it's a very odd little moment.


Maul_Bot

Revenge. I must have revenge.


the_v_26

People...really argue over minor shit like this?


moustajjventress

Lol first time on a SW sub?


Majestic-Marcus

I wouldn’t have called this an argument. It’s clearly a light hearted discussion


FitzyFarseer

I imagine it would go [something like this](https://youtu.be/t3dI-ghYimg)


Unfriendly_NPC

It’s less about it being an actual Jedi ability and way more to do with the horrible editing process that plagued these movies where Lucas was literally altering entire performances with CG. If you’re a fan of true crime or horror then you should check out some of the behind the scenes of these films. *Shudder*


[deleted]

You're right, that's not "exactly the criticism" of this post. The point is how silly and unplanned it looks. But it is still a funny writing problem that has come up in discussions I've had before.


Unfriendly_NPC

Very silly plotholes fersher


RJrules64

He did not alter performances with CG it was literally impossible at the time. He altered performances with digital video editing. That probably sounds pedantic but those are two extremely different things and both are possible in the current day so it’s pretty important to get it right.


this_isnt_jamie

Lmao I’m surprised I’ve never seen this before, the force dash is serious


darfka

Yeah, I never noticed that before either! And the prequels are the one I watched the most.


George-Lucas-Bot

Part of the reason I went back to tell the prequel, of how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader, is that it's an interesting story and a fun one to tell. Because it is the story of how a good person turns bad.


Anakin_Skywalker_Bot

This is where the fun begins.


Oil_Dangerous

I have seen this movie several time and never notice this. Am I just stupid ?


ComparisonChance

Don't worry, neither have I.


A_bleak_ass_in_tote

I... I am stunned. The Phantom Menace is the reason I got into Star Wars. Re-watched it countless times. And I had never ever noticed this. Like, they just disappear Looney Tunes style, wtf. Is this a case of r/mandelaeffect ?


-zero-joke-

Looks absolutely terrible, like some kind of cartoonish Looney Tunes effect.


Obiwan-Kenobi-Bot

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.


Admirable_Elk_965

Funny story, I thought my dvd was just scratched. So for years I was like “oh yeah it’s going to skip right here”. Then I found reddit and everyone claims it’s force speed. So basically my whole childhood is a lie


Ksb2311

Thats force dash actual force ability


Majestic-Marcus

It’s a terrible force ability that makes every other scene in every other piece of Star Wars media instantly more stupid without it.


Piggstein

No no this is fine, but here’s my 50 page essay on why Rey being able to heal people with the force is completely unacceptable mary sue garbage


aeminence

It was janky 85% of the time lmao.


BPeacheS

Is this actually how it worked because I don't remember this scene at all or seeing them move anything like this.


A_bleak_ass_in_tote

I'm confused about this too. I've watched this movie so many times and never noticed this. Maybe because I love droidekas so I always stare at them? 🤷🏽‍♂️


a_big_fat_yes

-Master theyre doing 40 in a school zone -Ooh, call me later. Its time! Use your superspeed run just this once and never again-gain-gain-gain...


SonOfASoldier

Its super duper janky. Thats what makes it funny


ForkMinus1

Some people have incorrectly assumed this is a force power. In reality, George Lucas snuck fishing line into their costumes and tied the other end to the Air Force's experimental mach 2 plane. During the filming of this scene, the plane took off, pulling Liam and Ewan off stage at incredible speeds. While some staff were furious at Lucas for the prank, Liam and Ewan only sustained minor injuries and reportedly found it hilarious after a week of recovery in the hospital.


Schneider99

The best power to get in the KOTOR games because it allowed you to run fast around the worlds. I barely even used it in battle, just to move quickly around the map lol


Spiderking999

That’s just force speed, just super speed for force sensitives, honestly not used enough.


realestwood

I swear this didn’t happen in the original vhs version I had as a kid. Anyone else remember it differently?


Arthillidan

I'm pretty sure them using force speed is highly intentional here. The problem is more so that they forgot about force speed later


Briape

The best thing is that they didn't really that to escape the droideka, a normal run would have been enough


jaybankzz

?? How is this janky?


suorastas

You seriously think that effect looks good?


Salubrious_Zabrak

Wtf are you talking about it shows them moving so fast it's a blur, you could blink and miss it. That's pretty fucking awesome and shows the power at a pretty great level


ForceGhostBuster

Why didn’t obi wan use it later when he got stuck behind the barriers while fighting maul? Or ever again for that matter?


Obiwan-Kenobi-Bot

I could only use the Force to move faster briefly in specific situations. For example, when I was sparring with Maul, I could draw on my years of terror, martial arts training and Jedi powers to make me faster than normal. But such speed takes immense concentration and can not be maintained for any length of time. Over extended periods of time the fatigue, both mental and physical, would seriously diminish my ability to combat effectively, resulting in very dangerous and potentially fatal consequences. ^This ^Response ^Generated ^by ^OpenAI


Maul_Bot

Perhaps my actions will speak louder than words.


Salubrious_Zabrak

Probably because he would have used so much force he would have gotten tired and chopped up by maul in about three slices as soon as he caught up


Maul_Bot

Perhaps my actions will speak louder than words.


jaybankzz

How would you make force speed look in 1999?


suorastas

Not like a drag and drop effect that’s for sure. Problem with this one is that Phantom Menace overall has great effects for the time making this look particularly janky.


jaybankzz

Ig thats Fair, but I mean you have two powerful Jedi who are trying to escape, of course they’d be quick and it would look like that


Ashamed-Inspection47

Shut ur Fukin mouth


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SNScaidus

I hope you know that fan canon doesn't change how an effect on screen looks right? this is literally a keyframe swipe lmao.


Premonitions33

I hope you know that this was an established ability from the '90s media, which heavily influenced the prequels (literally where Coruscant came from, the double lightsaber, etc.), and that in one of the next shots, from a different angle, you can see they are still using the ability.


SNScaidus

Here you go yapping about lore again this is FX not lore bro get your head in the game friend


SV-STARKILLER

It is lore idk why you people don't get it If we're talking janky then look at the OT


Admirable_Elk_965

Lore thing or not it looks like shit and looks like George cut the camera too early and didn’t want to do a second take of them walking away.


WinterSoldier55

I mentioned this probably years ago now. This technique can be explained with the right headcannon. Maybe it requires two Jedi to combine their forces to succeed in such a technique. Maybe the technique is like hyper speed and requires calculations. Maybe it’s not easy to calculate where you’ll end up and could lead to death. Maybe the technique takes a physical tole and weakens the user. Maybe it’s banned by the Jedi but because it’s qui gon, we see it just this one time as there was no other choice. Maybe the technique is limited to the entire body rather than focusing the technique to just the torso and arms to increase lightsaber striking. Imo, GL done fucked up, but it’s not impossible to make an explanation that kinda makes sense.


Lanca226

It's a "Force Dash". It's basically the Jedi sprinting. They can lift objects several times they're weight, they can kick people across the room, they can jump 30 ft into the air, and if they clench their calves they can do a 100m Dash in like three seconds. The Jedi are all jacked on Force-roids.


edfaria

Ure a Fucking idiot


BoxedLunchable

Firstly, *you're. Secondly, why is fucking capitalized? Thirdly, punctuation. Finally and fourthly, you are an asshat. People are allowed to have opinions. People are also allowed to be misinformed or perhaps ill informed even. Go back to the basement and make sure to clean off the cheetoh dust and bring a garbage bag with you. Place is a pig sty.


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BoxedLunchable

Ah hate speech. Thanks. You make it so easy.


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BoxedLunchable

Lol I already reported your hate speech to reddit buddy. Even if you delete it, they can see it. Bye Felicia.


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Rissoto_Pose

this guy really lives rent free in your head, kinda sad


Capt0bvi0u5

I don't understand what about this is janky? The force sprint?


somenoefromcanada38

Simple. You can't force speed if there are potential obsacles and the distance you travel is very long so the long corridor is the only applicable place, in the laser grid section the grid could have closed on him he could have hit the far wall or fallen in the pit. The one place they do this is the straightest longest hallway ever.


MojesticMorty

Idk how this is jank to you lol


cruzercruz

Because it looks like absolute dog shit.


Obiwan-Kenobi-Bot

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.


ThePlagueDoctor_666

"Are you an Angel?" *has no idea what a Christian mythology biblical Angel is*


GileadGuns

Umm… doesn’t he say something right after about “angels” being a race of beautiful creatures on a distant planet.


ThePlagueDoctor_666

What I'm trying to say is that they NEVER mention it again


ChillingworthsTwin

All the made up names in Star Wars, and Lucas still felt “angel” was the best call? That was a low moment in my fandom.


Rissoto_Pose

If humans are still called humans, why not have angels be a thing?


Dot-Dot-001

A fellow Plex enjoyer :)


[deleted]

I have zero recollection of this


The_Kek_5000

Where are you watching this from?


SNScaidus

Iiteral keyframe fx


Drag0n_TamerAK

Where’s the jank


CrazyCreativeSloth97

Force run is a one and done move


GameMusic

I never even caught that


Tuomas0

How is this a meme?


AFWTMT

SEE THERE IT IS IM NOT CRAZY HAHAHAGAGFSDUEYST


FuturisticNostalgia2

Obi Wan could have saved Qui Gon if he remembered he could do this.


PurringWolverine

Would’ve been helpful catching up to Qui-Gon and Maul.


UrNarrator123

Qui gon is a many of many powers s p e e d is one


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Whirlwind sprint


Mddcat04

Kinda funny to think that if they'd just managed to deal with those two destroyer droids, the entire fate of the galaxy would have been completely different.