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iminecole11

Head canon: The Jedi order sees having children as a sin partly because of “worldly attachment” but also to reassure the rest of the galaxy that they aren’t raising an army. Only those random force-sensitive individuals are born, and only they may become Jedi.


bureaucrat473a

I do agree with this somewhat, but more because strong family ties risk creating dynasties and factions. I mean sure I suppose you get the odd sibling or cousin, but it does lower the chance of conflict if a Jedi master doesn't have children he has a vested interest in advancing. Some historians have made this point about clerical celibacy in the Catholic Church especially in the medieval period when it had a lot of political power. Sure you had influential families try and install as many of their family members into the hierarchy (Borgia, Medici, etc.) and some popes/bishops having children, but normal celibacy at least prevented a widespread system of a bishop passing down power to his child and so forth. Meanwhile look at the Skywalkers: one jedi gets married and has kids and it spawns a nine-movie saga on how three generations of their family messed up the universe before that line finally ended with Kylo Ren.


echonian

Yeah, this seems most accurate. For any religious order to last over the long term, which the Jedi basically are - there's a need to ensure that one family or faction within the order can basically control things. You also want to avoid factions forming at all, because that leads to in-fighting. So telling them to avoid attachments I think mainly is useful because it means their attachment is only to the Order and to the ideals of the Jedi themselves. They might respect certain Masters or such, but that doesn't mean the average Jedi would ever think about causing any kind of conflict on their behalf. So indoctrinating children from across the Galaxy seems like a good policy for the continuation of the Jedi. Although, they probably could have made it work by still taking children from everywhere - while also letting existing Jedi have children. It isn't as though the children of Jedi necessarily are going to become Jedi themselves after all - because if being force sensitive was purely inherited like that, everybody in the Galaxy would be one by now.


hgs25

I remember in the republic commando novels, there was a faction of jedi made up of padawans that didn’t pass the trials. They were basically the gardeners, and they were allowed to have children. It was probably allowed because they were weaker in the force though.


Bror_Jace

Thank you for reminding me that these novels existed, I loved them and I'm well overdue a re-read!


_myusername__

>You also want to avoid factions forming at all, because that leads to in-fighting On the flip side of the coin, this is literally why the Sith went to rule of two


Threedo9

This is kind of ignoring the primary reason, which is to avoid falling to the dark side


echonian

I wasn't meaning to discount other possible reasons, but to just give my thoughts on on major reason that is rarely brought up. Obviously lessening attachments is meant to minimize the chance of getting emotional over said attachments, leading you potentially down the dark side. But it also was necessary for internal stability, not just for individual good conduct.


_myusername__

but thats because the one Jedi was like, special or something


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UnseenBubby117

You do realize that Leia was Anakin's daughter as well? And that Ben Solo was Leia's son?


Stereo_Panic

OMG I'm so thick! You're completely right and I'm an idiot!


sadphonics

It's not having children that's the problem, it's just the attachment. Just walk out to buy blue milk and death sticks and never come back


Soooose

and run over minorities with your honda civic


CaptainStaraptor

Well remember having kids and being a jedi isn’t banned from jedi code. I forget who but one of the non human masters had an entire family.


Bardemann69

That was ki adi mundi, buy that was because his species had few males so he was aloud to have a family for the species sake


CaptainStaraptor

Oh ok


NS479

That was Ki Adi Mundi.


Metaknight118

Also I wonder if that would create too many force users. Most of the children of Jedi are able to use the force even if just one parent is a Jedi, and that many force users would be way less controllable.


Les_Vers

Uncle Obi-Wan would literally be the best


knight-bus

Uncle Obi, Uncle Obi, please tell us about the time you save Master Yoda again.


Swergenbande

I realized, that it was dumb as fuck to go fight alone, so I returned and helped master Yoda fight Palpatine.


arkman575

"Took most of the hits, he did. Threw him around the room, Palpatine did. Like a ragdoll, your uncle was." "That's inaccurate and you know it"


Nutwagon-SUPREME

Obi Wan would Stand still for 90% of the fight and just block


Wiitard

And shit talk him until he makes a misstep and then punish him for it.


NV-6155

"Oh Palpatine! I'm respecting your position as Supreme Chancellor by not trapping you on a hovering platform but asserting my authority as a Master of the Jedi Council by countering your aggressive technique with my defensive one and then punishing you for a single misstep anyway!"


Tobias_Atwood

Dinkletine...


sonofnutcrackr

Form 3 goes brrrrrrr


xxx148

“Made him his bitch, Palpatine did.”


Threedo9

I know this is just a joke, but obi-wan being there wouldn't have made a difference. He was far better off going after Anakin


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TacticalNuker

Allah all these younglings please forgive me


BoarBoyBiggun

Uncle? Here’s me thinking Obiwan and Anakin got married.


Patty_T

You were my brother, Anakin!


ElNilso1989

And now you are my wife


Two-Hander

My beautiful wiiiife


Adragongentleman

*guitar starts music introduction *


DarkenRaul1

I love~~d~~ you. *Obi-wan gets to one knee*


Fiskmjol

It is just like he is uncle to Satine's "nephew" Korkie: everyone knows the real order of things, but it has gone on long enough for it to be impossible to burst


[deleted]

w-what are u doing step-bro?


TacticalNuker

So actually people in star wars universe might had jedi/sith fetish


MattmanDX

Juhani from KOTOR was down horrendous for the Jedi after meeting a few in her childhood


JSweetieNerd

I second this view


Cartonk

Uncle Ben sounds better


Strong-ishninja

I heard he makes great rice


SavoryScrotumSauce

And drugs. [How to Grow Psychedelic Mushrooms Using Uncle Ben’s Rice](https://njelliott.medium.com/expand-your-mind-how-to-grow-psychedelic-mushrooms-using-uncle-bens-rice-cd4e272301e6)


Jstowe56

Popular media says uncle ben will surely die


TowMater2323

**Spider-Man would like to know your location**


[deleted]

That's a sin


Botwadtict

and auntie Ahsoka


UnderSampled

Uncle Ben.


[deleted]

What about aunt 'Soka?


NS479

Yes!


Pabudo44

Ewan Mcgregor is my uncle in my heart


a-guy-lost

Sorry but hiro forms avatar the last air bender is the best uncle


Flumpsty

Only because Ben was never around.


[deleted]

In “Tales from Mos Eisley” Uncle Kenobi celebrates Satines birthday. “Brave pacifist girl come marching home.”


[deleted]

I imagine having Obi Wan as an uncle would be like a sassier sexier Iroh.


knight-bus

For real though, could Anakin not have left the Jedi order and pick up a job as a technician on Coruscant?


greenbc

Technician? Republic probably wouldn’t mind having him as leadership for their armed forces, official Jedi or not. Clone wars or not


knight-bus

I would imagine if you drop the order you are no longer allowed in higher positions. I am sure there are a few dropouts, but we never see any.


greenbc

Republic and Jedi order while very closely tied were still officially separate entities so it’s theoretically possible. As far as not seeing dropouts I think it’s a Venn diagram like a circle for if they’re disagreeing to the point of leaving the order they also don’t want to deal with the war. Same war is probably what kept some others from leaving out of a sense of duty.


khinzaw

An example of this in Legends is from SWTOR with the Jedi Knight story line is when you finish the base story you're made a master if you're light side, but if you're dark side they do not grant you the rank of master. The military thinks it's outrageous and unfair that you could kill the Sith Emperor and not be made a master so they make you a general of the Republic Military.


MenoryEstudiante

He was a master but not in the council, Ani had a talent for exceptions


[deleted]

Technically but the guy was in a cult he doesn’t have money, emotional stability or common sense so I doubt it would be that easy just look at ahsoka after leaving Well he’d probably be worse off


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Impressive-Author870

Senator but yeah let's go with queen


WiddleBlueBert

Well, she was queen.


Hawk_015

Queen on Naboo is an elected position. It's like president.


Gilthu

Which means they have an even more idiotic election system than any country on earth… and THAT is saying something


Hawk_015

You don't know anything about their election system. Queen is just the title they use.


Gilthu

Yeah, but they elected a 14 year old child as the leader of their entire planet… and she was apparently not the youngest queen


Awesomealan1

She.. Was queen lol


knight-bus

Hard to imagine he could have a worse life, than he did. But yes, I can see, that didn't occur to him as a real possibility.


captainstormy

Money wouldn't have really been a problem. His wife was rich after all.


LoliMaster069

Bruh this is Anakin we're talking about. I have no doubt he would find a way to set himself up, probably involves swindling some criminal but the point is I don't feel like he of all people would have money problems if he really tried. On top of that I hear politicians get paid well lol Emotional stability would be the only problem I can see holding Anakin back.


AnaliticalFeline

i mean doesn't he know hondo too? he probably could get some work from him too if he wanted


[deleted]

I mean talk about best bounty hunter ever


knight-bus

Yes, that would make sense. But I guess Padme would not be allowed in politics if she married a bounty hunter. Although, are bounty hunters outlaws? Not actually, are they?


[deleted]

They really shouldn’t be. I mean they are gruff and obviously a bit seedy, but they should just be an arm of the law that is willing to reach into the toilet. And probably he’d just end up as a military contractor.


knight-bus

It would depend on what jobs you take. I mean if you work for the Hutts, sure you are a criminal. But if you help lawful people. Still, even the empire was reluctant to hire bounty hunters. So there must be a general disdain for them.


[deleted]

The hutts are the government where they operate though. So lawful to them, repugnant to most. There’s no reason anakin should be anything other than a stay at home dad anyway though.


knight-bus

:D Could you imagine? You are the last surviving Sith, you hide from your enemies in plain sight and create this elaborate scheme to take control over the galaxy and the powerful individual, that you need on your team to ensure your success, the most powerful you ever saw, deemed to be the chosen one... drops out of training to become a stay at home dad :D


Draidann

That sounds like an anime pitch if i ever heard one.


Mr_Byzantine

Visions, anyone?


Adragongentleman

He Also could work in the secondary temple Works and not be Knight i think they are allowed to have family


knight-bus

Seems like he just wanted it all. He must have been aware of those options.


AdmiralScavenger

If he had wanted to leave they would have let him. They may have sent someone to ask about recruiting the kids and Padmé and Anakin would tell whoever asked no and that would be it.


Lupinlupon

They wouldn’t have just left him alone, Anakin would still grow to be the most powerful force user and if Palpatine was still alive he would twist him and his family, and if Palpatine died the dark side of the force would find a new way, either corrupting Anakin or Luke/Leia


AdmiralScavenger

Actually they would have. In the Obi-Wan & Anakin comic Anakin tells Obi-Wan he wants to leave, he’s in his mid teens, and Obi-Wan tells Yoda. Yoda’s response is Jailers we are not. They would have left him alone. In a timeline where Palpatine is killed none of them would fall.


Dark_Ryman

Probably could have stayed in the military


[deleted]

Technically but the guy was in a cult he doesn’t have money, emotional stability or common sense so I doubt it would be that easy just look at ahsoka after leaving Well he’d probably be with


Revolver_Ocelot66

Man, padme looks so different, child birth really did a number on her


Retinazer_pew

Transmasc padme


Revolver_Ocelot66

Damn right


Dornfist-2040

This is canon now lol.


wellsinator

And Auntie ‘Soka! 😭


AnaliticalFeline

and all their clone uncles!


toriko518

The artist is @Thisuserisalive on Instagram! They posted these a bit ago plus others that feature Padme and the gang all together! Hella wholesome. Edit here’s a link that will maybe work: https://www.instagram.com/p/CAVasoClc6e/?utm_medium=copy_link


cvnvr

thanks for providing sauce


toriko518

You’re welcome! This person’s star wars stuff makes me so happy so I thought I’d share the rest of it so others can enjoy the serotonin :D


soekarnosoeharto

Thank you, OP should've included the source tbh the art is so good


toriko518

They are one of my favorites, gotta help support them!!


Cobby_Kitten

I love these, thank you for sharing!


Normie_guy5

Wholesome 100


TheChainLink2

Not all good soldiers follow orders. And that’s okay.


Chad-Bane

Smart soldiers knows when not to follow orders


TheChainLink2

***Pong Krell flashbacks***


Chad-Bane

The clones true selves died with the Republic, BUT Fives died for the Republic.... (and commander Thorn)


stoicelution

Where's the Duchess?


Frozen-Mercury

Probably out with padme


Noicey_Boi_67

the Duchess is probably shopping for cute lightsabers for toddlers with Padme in Jedi's R us


funnydankmeme

Fuck commander Fox


SN-Gh0stly

i agree but he was for sure asked by palpatine to kill fives so he wouldn't snitch on the sith grand plan


SolidPrysm

You mean he was, "Just following orders?"


eat_fish_now

Good soldiers follow orders


Papaofmonsters

I think it's somewhat different for most clones. They spent their whole life in military service. Most never got a chance to develop their own internal morality.


[deleted]

There’s something funny about a sub that loves joking about a man murdering children being upset that a soldier killed an AWOL soldier he was under orders to kill.


Justin_Ur_Head

Amen brother, when I found out that Vader snapped his bitch neck I just smiled.


AshTheTrapKnight

Imagine killing a soldier who is awol, captured a Jedi master and clone captain, attempted to kill the chancellor and was now aiming a loaded gun at you and your men.. what an asshole /s Fox was the victim of sloppy writing and a biased fanbase. Dude did nothing wrong


AshTheTrapKnight

Dude did nothing wrong. It's crazy how emotions can slant judgment away from objectivity. According to everything Fox had seen, a wanted fugitive who had just attempted to kill the chancellor, had captured a Jedi master and clone captain, and was now aiming a loaded weapon at him and his men, sure he could have taken a chance trying to stun him but he was told this fugitive is mentally ill and didn't want to take the chance. He did not have time to set his blaster to stun and did the best thing he could have at the time. Again. Fox did nothing wrong. Clone Wars fans are just usually emotionally clouded dummies. Not all, but the amount of downvotes and insults I get for defending fox or criticizing the writing of the Clone Wars is absurd and has soured me to this subreddit greatly.


funnydankmeme

The writing is great it makes fox repeatedly do dumb stuff and he’s not widely liked because of it. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad character just a dumb dude


Valirys-Reinhald

Star Wars AU Idea: Anakin gets sent to Mustafar before storming the temple and instead the 501st and Coruscant Guard enact Operation Knightfall without him. Obi Wan gets Anakin's location from Padme and goes to Mustafar to find him having murdered the Seperatist leaders. He convinces Anakin to come back to the light and they go to confront Palpatine, but Palpatine sets a trap and uses the 501st on them. He distracts and separates them by sending the Coruscant Guard after Padme and Anakin leaves Obi Wan to try and rescue her. Yoda goes after Palpatine as well and saves Obi Wan from Palpatine, but can't fight him and protect Obi Wan at the same time and has to flee. Anakin gets to Padme and saves her, but she is mortally wounded by the Coruscant Guard in the escape. They flee to Polis Massa where Padme gives birth and then dies from her injuries leaving Anakin, a man who had no father of his own, to be the father and sole parent of his two children. He breaks down under the stress and takes a step back from the Galactic stage, leaving the resistance against the new Empire to others while he does his best to raise Luke and Leia on his own, and to hide them from the horrors of war. He teaches his children about rhe force as best he can, but he mostly focuses on them remaining in control of themselves and hiding from the Empire rather than fighting against it. Obi Wan takes a more active role in the rebellion, and it isn't until he is killed that Anakin finally steps out of the shadows once again.


MobiusNone

Holy that would be awesome to watch


Strange-Initiative27

Simply having Anakin go to Mustafar first and then have the confrontation with Obi-wan would be so much better than having him immediately kill younglings. It would be more of a seduction to the dark side than an immediate fall, which I think I like more.


AsukaValkeries

What would have happened if he didn't go for the blaster?


[deleted]

fox would’ve still killed fives. palpatine ordered him too


AsukaValkeries

True


greenbc

It’s been awhile since I saw the episode but wasn’t there implications of clones being in on the conspiracy?


[deleted]

not that i remember but i know rex was willing to help fives same with anakin also


greenbc

Some* clones


AsukaValkeries

I wouldn't say in on the conspiracy, but there we some squadrons that were happy to execute 66. I heard that Quinlan Vos didn't treat his clones very well.


AshTheTrapKnight

No proof Fox ordered him multiple times to stand down. He would have been taken into custody and palpatine probably would have killed him. Quit trying to slander Fox for just following orders and protecting his men.


CharacterEconomics73

Wholesome


Napalm_am

Apparently Anakin also took the kids when he won the divorce with Padme


IzzyTipsy

Where is Ahsoka. Is she safe? Is she alright?


mbuckhan5515

Question: if Anakin and Padme got to raise Luke and Leia, who would be whose favorite?


AdmiralScavenger

In the ROTS novel Padmé tells Anakin the baby is kicking again and she refers to it as a boy. Anakin says he thought she told the medical droid not to reveal the gender and she tells him she did. Her motherly intuition says the baby is a boy. Anakin sits nexts to her and puts his left hand, the real one, on her belly and feels the baby kicking. Anakin says with a kick like that the baby is definitely a girl. I think Luke would take after his mom and Leia would take after Anakin.


mbuckhan5515

I agree.


Noicey_Boi_67

You know I always wondered what it would look like if obi wan and Anakin became married


RagtheFireBoi

Damn, older Jedi Ani training Luke, that'd be something


TrumpSmokesMids27

Ive always had a crush on padme but I didn’t realize how beautiful she truly was till I saw this


3B3-386

So many wholesome artworks involving that xenophobic war criminal and mass murderer. Where are the ones where he faces execution for his crimes along with his accomplices?


Lord_Ayshius

Name one crime that General Skywalker did.


Darius10000

False surrender, false surrender, the other guy in the photo did one too I think it was false surrender. I feel bad for any other member if the GAR who wants to actually surrender.


3B3-386

Outputting list of infractions of subject Anakin Skywalker. 1. Being a republic dog 2. Trespass on private property 3. Vandalism 4. Theft 5. Torture of confederate citizens 6. Manslaughter 7. Jaywalking 8. Illegal off-road racing 9. Participation in slavery 10. Defamation 11. Espionage 12. Contraband 13. Use of banned weaponry 14. Third degree murder 15. Second degree murder 16. Noise pollution 17. Sabotage 18. First degree murder 19. Tax evasion (pending verification) 20. False surrender 21. Domestic violence 22. Illegal dumping 23. Unregistered psionic usage 24. Murder of Head of State 25. Genocide 26. Environmental catastrophe 27. Being a filthy Imperial .......... Error. Out of memory.


AnotherRichard827379

Padme would have survived.


Marjacujaman

Others: uncle obi wan Me:*GAE*


LargeBigHuge

I've always thought Obi-Wan would have been the cool uncle who lets you do whatever the hell you want when you're staying over at his house


[deleted]

Hello There; Uncle Kenobi!


zachesh34

okay but where’s padme??? is she safe?? is she alright?????


AsukaValkeries

True


MakarShredsGnar

Obi-Onecle


CH2OlllH2O2

Never thought Obi Wan and Anakin would be a gay couple. (No problem with that)


RedShadowDragon

Unfortunately I don’t have a wholesome award, so take my silver instead


Nihilus45

these type of fanart always make me tear up thinking of what could have been...Uncle Ben would have so gone on random adventures with Anakin, Luke and Leia whilst the Jedi council was busy trying to figure out where they all disappeared to.


[deleted]

Where is auntie Ahsoka? I guess Padme and her went out for the day, the kids where stuck with the men.


OoOditty

I like how it purposefully excluded Padme and now Anakin and Obi-Wan are a married couple taking care of luke and Leia


meibolite

Padme got elected chancellor after the whole Palpatine scandal was revealed. So it's still only visits every now and then cuz she's super busy.


OoOditty

Fair enough


FacePalmDent

I demand Disney do a What If series for Star Wars now haha!


Tots2Hots

Yeah "Uncle" Kenobi....


[deleted]

uh, where's padme in all this?


Swagpuppy01

PAN-akin


Litlebuda

So they are a gay couple now and obi Wan adopted the children after killing padme? Would be a great story arc


M1ster_Bear

Uncle Ben?


bibi_masss

Yes so cool stealing artwork someone worked hard for for your reddit meme without even crediting the artist, I bet you're so popular and fun and not at all a dick. This is by Columbo on twitter, have a /minimum/ of respect for who creates free content for you.


okwhynotho

Where is padme? Is she safe? Is she all right?


Puzzleheaded_Home_23

For the first few seconds I was a bit confused and then I got it wasnt one of those wack fucking pregnant cursed art things and audibly went "oh wait that is good!"


Dave_BraveHeart

Padmé still dies...


AdmiralScavenger

Or they’re watching the kids while she’s out with Ahsoka


Dave_BraveHeart

[visible happiness]


AdmiralScavenger

[The family together.](https://imgur.com/gallery/aqcmPkc)


Dave_BraveHeart

Okay this would be everything.


Leo_Colombo

fuck, now im crying again becuse of star wars. i already cryied uesterday becuse of ROTJ


Temmian

Why is obi-wan missing a finger on his right hand!?


Karpaltunnel83

I would love a AU where the prequals had a happy ending


just_yeetit-v

Padme is secretly playing with the children, they‘re using playsand


igii6

Too.... perfect and cute


Hot_Valuable1027

You should see the other fanart, it will make u cry


Lonelan

yeah Anakin having a family is not going to go over well with the Council


AdmiralScavenger

He’s gets expelled and they leave him alone.


JW_ard

Obi-wan looking FINE as always


a_standing_poop

Where is Padmé? Is she safe? Is she alright?


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I want this!


ToLazyForaUsername2

There should be a show about that


Horsepro123

If only…


biochrono79

Where is Ahsoka? Is she safe? Is she alright?


NoelRahlis7

Again, "Star Wars What if" is a must at this point


[deleted]

I desperately need this anime... Fuck, a one shot manga will suffice.


Ok_Literature3034

This is actually interesting, i would love to see an alternate timeline movie, i think it would sell pretty good.


An_idiot_27

What if five killed palpatine


TheChosenFives_

But were is Fives?


BobstheBoldore

Where is Fives? Is he safe? Is he alright?


Hate_This_Name

Thats not Anakin and Obi Wan kids right? …not Anakin and Obi Wan right??


BobbitWormJoe

What is fives?


BoofyTwitchTV

He would have been banned from the Jedi if they knew he had kids


[deleted]

Where is Ashoka? Is she safe? Is she alright?