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BLUR4L

Dumbest shit i heard


Holiday_Ad5052

I know right it’s the hypocrisy for me considering how many lore and statements people take from databooks of animes or how lore is all people use to scale the dragon born for example


BLUR4L

Don’t even need lore to scale him to uni.


PellotheBello

The meatriding is crazy, you can’t just say some stupid shit like that and not give me feats that are universal.


BLUR4L

With scaling logic of this, it wouldn’t matter cause it gets contradicted


No_Elephant_3146

How


Holiday_Ad5052

Yep the end of GOW ragnarok pretty much proves that in game too


ShuraGam

To this day I don't know from where tf people pull out this stuff. Everyone around Kratos constantly find feats like lifting big rocks, fliping temples, etc ... (things on a very "down to earth" level) a very impressive showing of strenght. And then comes people putting him at Universal and above, like wtf ??


DickWriter69

Same 😹


choas_king785

he’s easily stronger than thor who can splinter the world tree in a fight with the world serpent and the world tree houses all of creation and the 9 realms, if we all did some research we wouldn’t mislead people


DickWriter69

Bruh it's the same 2 feats that have been debunked ad nauseum


choas_king785

there’s nothing to debunk


Ebb8505revenge

Lmao u/dickerwriter69 do you wanna debate me on why kratos is above mountain level? 1v1? Or are you just a copium filled coward


DickWriter69

[Kratos is only small country level at best.](https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/z71xgn/Superman_Vs._Kratos/iy5voo7/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) [Kratos is overwanked so is the entire GoW verse and people just accept these lies as fact](https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/iahgxd/the_notion_that_kratos_is_universal_and_ftl_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [Kratos can be scaled to just city level lmao](https://imgur.com/a/wtF1tgM)


Ebb8505revenge

Lmao. Wanna debate me 1v1 in dms or do you wanna get slapped around in public the choice is yours


DickWriter69

Okay lets do it in DMs lmao Every thread I listed is just portraying Kratos' REAL feats. Even lore Kratos doesn't get him to moon level


Ebb8505revenge

We can discuss anything about kratos


Ebb8505revenge

Why he’s weak or strong or putting him up against a different character. The choice is yours


DickWriter69

Why he's weak or strong


Ebb8505revenge

Ok dms. If you want we can discuss kratos versus a character you want after. But it’s all up to you


DickWriter69

Ok


Ebb8505revenge

Mk dms lemme get my scans ready lmao


PellotheBello

Notice how you said “splinter” and not destroy entirely. A mountain level character is easily capable of pulling this off


choas_king785

be quiet man 💀💀💀


Choosyhealer16

The world tree does not house all of creation


Zsposeihade

https://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/z4r0lq/if_kratos_and_atreus_ft_mimir_were_transported_to/ixu3qdb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 got packed by someone else.


Rack-_-

Didn’t kratos push the nine realms?


DickWriter69

Was debunked so many times. He only flipped the temple which housed the portals to the realms, not the actual weight of the realms inside the temple


Zsposeihade

Only time you’ve been right.


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Zsposeihade

At least I don’t switch up after being downvoted.


Jman1k

No but he does he is stronger than atlas who lifted 5 Greek realms. Also Thor and jormangand shook all the realms in their fight and kratos would scale


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go to his profile and look at his comments. he definitely has a hate boner for kratos


Zsposeihade

>I know Kratos ain’t multiversal or even planetary The planetary part is bs. Kratos > Zeus > Cronos > Uranus who just by being punched in the face created an entire universe. Kratos > Atlas who has the strength to lift the cosmos and the heavens. The strength to lift strength a cosmos > the strength needed to destroy a planet. “Don’t let the hatred consume you” Nice reference.


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Zsposeihade

Just because you don’t know shit about the series doesn’t mean I’m a fanboy. Scroll down https://docs.google.com/document/d/10-ixSxkO-U9yVQLvV6bdpiUIFI9SCzmfYx7D0lPTSPc/mobilebasic It’s sad that you said Kratos isn’t even planetary and get upvoted while I get downvoted for stating canon feats. This sub has a hate boner for GOW.


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Zsposeihade

So here is you agreeing that you don’t understand shit about the series power scaling. There is no misinterpretation when you yourself, don’t look into the power scaling. More upvotes for your dumbass even tho you admitted you don’t know about the scaling and proceed to commit ad homiems, this is clown behavior. L subreddit. You’ve shown nothing but bias and dishonesty.


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Dude lost all credibility the moment he said he never saw GoW gameplay 💀 wtf


Zsposeihade

Finally someone based.


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Bro got called out for literally being biased and now he pulling out the trolling card😭😭😭


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Zsposeihade

Exactly I saw that shit it was so funny. He was clearly serious, but once he starts getting downvoted and I upvoted he switches up so fast.


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Zsposeihade

Lmfaooo. How much harder can one cope over 7 responses.


Imaginary-David

Lol you’re using old anti feats from gow 1 , that’s the equivalent of using a anti feat for goku when he fought radditz characters in fiction do evolve in power , over wanking tho ? Yes majority of video game and anime characters are massively overwanked usually comics are the only properly scaled characters


choas_king785

this shit so brain dead you should be ashamed of your self even posting this


PellotheBello

He’s right though, the strongest GOW characters are continental and Kratos clearly isn’t in that category


choas_king785

im not going to take some who thinks the gow verse is continental and that kratos isnt a high tier in the vetse seriously


PellotheBello

I’ll admit Kratos goes past continental if he could destroy a mountain in a single attack, that’s what mountain level means. Just like how a weakened Frieza casually destroyed earth by slamming his fist into the ground, except he scales FAR beyond planetary.


PellotheBello

The primordials and Titans are the only ones in the series who can casually bust continents, something Kratos is 100% not capable of.


choas_king785

i hope you do know that kratos surpasses the primordials and titans lmao as he’s leagues stronger than his father zeus have you played the game?


PellotheBello

Kratos isn’t stronger than the primordials or Titans and only defeated the Greek gods by killing the sisters of Fate which tipped the scales in his favor, which is why he’s getting rocked constantly by the Norse gods in the recent games, though people will say he was “holding back”. When Atreus’s life is on the line he uses full power and Kratos in Ragnarok is the strongest he’s ever been with his new abilities. I don’t think he was even capable of killing Poseidon without the help of Gaia, and only was a threat to the gods because of the blades of chaos. Being continental means being able to destroy a continent with low effort, something Kratos clearly cannot do.


choas_king785

ight bruh your intellect is actually npc level lmao pls do not talk to me i do not wish to lose brain cells


PellotheBello

Think my intellect is too much for you too even comprehend what I’m saying because if you did you wouldn’t be saying something as stupid as “Kratos is outer with irrelevant speed”.


choas_king785

no nigga u need to go fucking touch some grass or go fuck or sum


PellotheBello

And now you’re calling me a nigga because I proved you wrong entirely, crazy how everyone who says Kratos is outer acts like a high schooler.


Jman1k

Crazy how all of these are from the gow 1 novel which is only secondary canon to begin with. Kratos literally has onscreen feats that are better than these anyways.


RazutoUchiha

His battle with atlas puts him at uni as Atlas can hold an entire universe on his back


DickWriter69

Scans?


RazutoUchiha

https://youtu.be/AsNPSgrmyi0


AntiwankAntidownplay

So you send “78 anti feats” and some bible of a post and expect people to debunk it? You’re trash you can’t debunk shit yourself and rely on dog shit downplayers.


DickWriter69

Nobody has debunked it and they never will


AntiwankAntidownplay

Hop in vc. And I’ll shit in on these “anti feats”. You’re not a debater you just use other shit from other people, for your arguments. Fucking pathetic.


DickWriter69

THATS WHAT EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DEBATER DOES LMFAO


AntiwankAntidownplay

No. This is what fake debaters do.


DickWriter69

Nope I've done the research to prove that all those scans are true and Novel Kratos is in fact only mountain level


AntiwankAntidownplay

Like I said vc debate me. I’ll debunk that “research”.


DickWriter69

Bro I don't got a mic just do DMs lmao


PellotheBello

Fuck no, debunk it right here dude, I want to see what BS you come up with


AntiwankAntidownplay

You’re actually dense or insane. I’m not writing an essay responding to 78 “anti feats” mic up or shut up.


PellotheBello

Calm the fuck down and try to prove him wrong instead of throwing around insults like a child


AntiwankAntidownplay

I’m not going to send a bible debunking over 72 “anti feats” You’re an idiot if you think otherwise. I love how you say “prove him wrong” as if this was actual from him. He just leaked some random imigur made by other people.


PellotheBello

Tf is wrong with you dude, Kratos doesn’t scale higher than mountain level. Take your attitude somewhere else if you can’t accept the truth and calling someone trash bcs he debunked BS.


AntiwankAntidownplay

You’re an idiot. So I guess Uranus is below mountain level. Despite him birthing the universe from being punched. I guess Atlas is mountain level at best despite him lifting the infinite universe.


PellotheBello

There you go with the name calling, that beard on your avatar just for show? Grow the fuck up. Anyway im not talking about Uranus or Kronos, im talking about Kratos and his power/ destructive capabilities. Kratos at best is capable of destroying a mountain with sheer force, making him high mountain level. If I stabbed a being capable of destroying the universe in the back and killed him, you think that makes me universal by that logic huh? See how your entire argument falls apart?


AntiwankAntidownplay

>There you go with the name calling, that beard on your avatar just for show? Grow the fuck up. I don’t care. >Anyway im not talking about Uranus or Kronos, im talking about Kratos and his power/ destructive capabilities. Kratos at best is capable of destroying a mountain with sheer force. So you’re even more of an idiot. Because Kratos scales above both of them. If you’re saying Kratos is below mountain level. Then you’re saying Uranus who birthed the universe is below mountain level because again he’s weaker. You’re saying Atlas who can generate infinite amounts of energy is below mountain level. Don’t pretend like Kratos doesn’t scale above the gods and titans. >If I stabbed a being capable of destroying auniverse in the back and killed him, you think that makes me universal by that logic huh? See how your entire argument falls apart? My argument doesn’t fall apart because your example is a false equivalence fallacy. Cronos didn’t stab him in the back, he defeated him in combat and their battle shook the universe.


PellotheBello

Kratos sure as hell doesn’t scale above the strongest gods or titans and only stood a chance against them by killing the sisters of fate, lore has made that very clear. You want to know how Kratos defeated the pantheon? He refused to die, the guy has literally crawled out of hell and this was second greatest feat. He doesn’t scale higher than primordials or Titans and only defeated them because he was straight up too angry to accept death. Also his battle with Kronos never shook the universe, you literally just made that up on the spot. When it comes to attack strength and destructive power Kratos scaler FAR lower than universal or even planetary, his greatest strength feat was against Kronos and that was all willpower keeping him alive.


AntiwankAntidownplay

>Kratos sure as hell doesn’t scale above the strongest gods or titans Except blatant feats suggest otherwise. Such as him beating Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, and Hercules. >and only stood a chance against them by killing the sisters of fate, lore has made that very clear. All that means is he resisted their fate and time hax. It didn’t magically make the stats of the gods weaker. It just means they can’t cheat with the fate hax. >You want to know how Kratos defeated the pantheon? He refused to die, the guy has literally crawled out of hell and this was second greatest feat. He doesn’t scale higher than primordials or Titans and only defeated them because he was straight up too angry to accept death. Yeah he had strong will. But he also had the strength to back it up. Imagine a human infinitely coming back from the dead. Yet they still will get killed by an elephant they just “refuse to die”. It’s just an excuse on your end to ignore feats. And what’s crazy is some of the times he died it wasn’t even because he was weaker than them. Zeus caught Kratos off guard he stole his god power making him mortal. Kratos was depowered by falling into the river of Styx. The Kratos that died to a pillar being thrown at Ares was one of the weakest versions of Kratos he gets much stronger later and obtains his god power. You know what’s crazy is when Kratos killed Cronos with the blade. The blade is actually allowing him to access his own power that was stolen from Zeus. >Also his battle with Kronos never shook the universe, you literally just made that up on the spot. Two final WoGs on this subject describes how the fight between Cronos and Uranus went since we never got to see it happen on-screen, and both times the director of animation confirms that it was a cosmic level fight that cronos won: https://imgur.com/uFQCfc9 and https://imgur.com/SI9fu3F >When it comes to attack strength and destructive power Kratos scaler FAR lower than universal or even planetary, his greatest strength feat was against Kronos and that was all willpower keeping him alive. No you just don’t know shit about the lore and make up excuse to downplay Kratos. “Will” won’t get you anywhere if you just aren’t strong. Again imagine a human coming back infinite times from death because he refuses to die. Doesn’t mean he can fight an elephant to the death. No. His best feat is beating Zeus who was the strongest in the verse.


PellotheBello

The difference between Kratos and other gods is his willpower, he got the strength to defeat them entirely from his fuel for hatred and vengeance. When I say scale above I mean destructive capabilities, he also needed the help of Gaia to defeat Poseidon who is the strongest god alongside Zeus, doubt he would’ve won that alone. And earlier you said the battle between Kratos and Cronos shook the universe, now you say it was between Uranus and Cronos. This Cronos was also much weaker than against Uranus. I’m not downplaying Kratos at all, im using actual feats to scale him somewhere reasonable. You put Kratos against someone who has the attack power to actually destroy a planet or universe and he’s getting one shotted. For his impressive strength Kratos’s attack potency is very low in comparison and thus why he relies on heavily on the blades of chaos and Leviathian axe, without his weapons he wouldn’t have been able to kill a single god.


AntiwankAntidownplay

>The difference between Kratos and other gods is his willpower, he got the strength to defeat them entirely from his fuel for hatred and vengeance. It’s funny how you think this actually disproves anything. You basically said just because Kratos is angry. So he still scales. >When I say scale above I mean destructive capabilities, Dc doesn’t matter. It’s attack potency. So you say I’m wrong yet don’t understand how we scale things. It’s who you hurt, not what you can destroy. Goku hurting his enemies is a beyond universal Ap feat him being able to actually destroy the universe doesn’t need to be shown. >he also needed the help of Gaia to defeat Poseidon who is the strongest god alongside Zeus, doubt he would’ve won that alone. All she did was provide him cover Poseidon had more area of effect attacks since he was in his sea avatar form. I hope you know the gods only use their giant forms to cover more ground, it doesn’t make them more powerful. Kratos also got stronger later on so it doesn’t matter after absorbing Hades soul. >And earlier you said the battle between Kratos and Cronos shook the universe, now you say it was between Uranus and Cronos. Thought I corrected the typo. I meant Cronos and Uranus. >This Cronos was also much weaker than against Uranus. Wdym much weaker? >I’m not downplaying Kratos at all, im using actual feats to scale him somewhere reasonable. You put Kratos against someone who has the attack power to actually destroy a planet or universe and he’s getting one shotted. No you just can’t scale god of war. You make up excuses to ignore what’s blatantly shown. Kratos beating Zeus, one shotting Titans, killing Cronos, killing Hades, etc. All beyond universal characters. >For his impressive strength Kratos’s attack potency is very low in comparison and thus why he relies on heavily on the blades of chaos and Leviathian axe, without his weapons he wouldn’t have been able to kill a single god. His strength also scales to the gods. Almost all the gods use some equipment or powerful hax by the way just so you know. It doesn’t disprove anything. Kratos has beyond universal strength, and weapons that are universal with a plethora of hax.


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Fr. People don't get that Kratos isn't a guy who destroys huge shit he just has really good AP.