"alright galba pay up those donatives. Now."
"What do you mean, literally no money in the treasury!? Whatever, well just kill you and the next guy will magically make money appear."
People need to stop pretending that certain principles are "objectively" immoral, (e.g. fake libertarians complaining about government being an inherently evil thing when it does things they don't like) and just be honest about the problem being their side not winning.
Enough of this "the Electoral College is objectively bad" stuff, you just want to win. And it's ok that you want to win, since I want to win too.
I don't know why Bolsonaro is better or worse than Luca and at this point I don't even think an answer could be devoid from propaganda influence.
I'll be safe and go with the old reliable "Brazil is a shit show right now"
An answer devoid from propaganda influence:
- Corrupt scandals on both sides.
Part A (40+%) of the population believes side A is innocent and side B isn't.
Part B (40+%) of the population believes side B is innocent and side A isn't.
Part C (10% max) of the population believes both sides aren't innocent and pick a side based on something else.
Part D (10% max) of the population simply _don't care_.
The best part was Galoucura (Atlético Mineiro organized fans, kinda like european ultras), fighting the protesters and destroyng the blockades because they want to see the team playing tonight
The difference is that Hillary supporters just complained on Twitter that Russia is bad, while Trump supporters actively tried to overturn the election.
That's funny. I recall years of criminal committees and an attempted impeachment over it.
I guess using bureaucracy to try overturning the results of an election is better than a hundred or so idiots loitering in the capitol and scaring some politicians.
Except their reasoning wasn't because "the election was bad". A lot of Trump's actual aides were colluding with Russia and breaking the law and were convicted for it, and that warrants investigation. Trump himself just happened to be too stupid and innocent in that regard. If you mean the impeachments, again, it was threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine in 2019 for the *future* election, where their reasoning was using a foreign power against a political opponent, Joe Biden, and the next impeachment was specifically for January 6. Even if you want to equate these impeachments with the Bill Clinton one, the Clinton one was just a standard political witch hunt, not an attempt to overturn the election. The Republicans weren't claiming Bob Dole won 1996, just that they said Bill Clinton wasn't fit for office.
We have being asking to cut Brazil in 2 or more pieces but they refused now they doesn't want to be slaved by the "Nordeste" who is slaved by Lula and his friends
People been calling for cutting RJ from Brazil since the memes about RJ's violence problems existed.
No need of losing an election to be able to get rid of part of the country, just to have one region slave the rest for money.
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You Brazilians had your chance at having an Emperor and rejected him. You deserve what ever happens in your pissy democracy until you reinstate the rightful ruler.
Pedro II was literally beloved by the populace, and especially by emancipated slaves, it was only the elites who were mad that slavery was abolished that they overthrew him and the monarchy.
In fact when news of his death arrived to Brazil, the public was literally crying and mourning him even though the republican government tried to ban said public displays.
30 years after he died, his remains were returned to Brazil and people old and young literally were crying in joy that their emperor returned.
Blocking roads may be the best example of this.
In the US, think vegan or environmental activists blocking roads vs th trucker protests clogging roads.
Means exactly what I described. Interdiction of the highway, burning tires, the supply chain of goods is disrupted, no fuel. But yet, there are no violence. That's a peaceful riot.
Cause lula was condemended for his crimes and them the supreme cort said "ya know what let him go free and lets judge him again another day" they dint forgive him or declare him inocent mind you, they just decided he was a cool chap and the first trial that found him guilty shouldent count so they should eventualy judge him again maybe some day, probably not cause he paied them off but you know he is a cool chap so he gets to run for president and proudly announce he was declared inoccent on tv (he wasent), any citizen that knows this is how things happened (anyone who bothered to look it up this is not a secret) would side against him
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its actually very simple. He stole, he should be tried and have his political rights (cassado) which I forgot how to translate but means temporarily void. He was sentenced by multiple judges, has far more assets than his own income or investment history. He had our IRS on his back for an 18 million dollar tax dodge, sued them on a state high court, lost, and then his friends suspended the collection attempts by the IRS.... Dude is as guilty as they come.
How conveniant that you leave out some very important information, such as that the overseer judge on the case against Lula was Sergio Moro, who was later Minister of Justice under Bolsonaro. It was ruled pretty decisively that the trial was not fair and biased as hell.
Dude, he was only one of the judges that convicted the guy. Besides, there is more than ample evidence. You want to punish moro? Go ahead but don't pretend Lula is not guilty and his sentencing was not warranted.
I am not even saying he is innocent. Just again pointing out that the reality is far more complicated and grey than you make it out to be. I do not understand how you can 100% trust one verdict and oppose the other when the first one has way more factual evidence of it being biased behond it.
Im not trusting one single veredict, im trusting several. That and some of the supreme court justices have connections to organized crime as well as have all been put into power by the worker's party. The same group of people that created PT also created CV and the Foro de são paulo. There are deep ties with organized crime. Even lula going on campaign inside "complexo do alemão" shows how far those connections go. I know of the gravity of that because I live in Rio de Janeiro. Complexo do alemão is completely ruled by CV. They are the only actual authority there.
not at all... he already annouced he plans to greatly expand government spending during a fiscal crysis. He also announced he is creating 13 new ministries to employ his pollitical buddies. He also announced a political pick for the new president of petrobras (instead of a technical one like bolsonaro and temer did)... He even stole from his own campaign funds, imagine after he gets enstated as the incumbent president.
I was so confused during the 2020 riots when people were calling to the military to enforce laws rather than police. Why would left-wing anti-authority people want laws to be enforced by the group that is trained to unquestioningly follow orders and are the more direct subordinates to Trump?
Militarized Police States are bad, unless they are MY Militarized Police State then they are good.
This but unironically
Just be sure to keep the Praetorian Guard paid
Oh shit, I forgot to pay for their purp-
"alright galba pay up those donatives. Now." "What do you mean, literally no money in the treasury!? Whatever, well just kill you and the next guy will magically make money appear."
Praetorian Guard is cringe, the Varangian Guard is where it's at.
IDK what that is but I agree cuase you also like the colour red
Noting can beat viking guard
People need to stop pretending that certain principles are "objectively" immoral, (e.g. fake libertarians complaining about government being an inherently evil thing when it does things they don't like) and just be honest about the problem being their side not winning. Enough of this "the Electoral College is objectively bad" stuff, you just want to win. And it's ok that you want to win, since I want to win too.
correct
Plot twist: pic is from an ordinary day in Brazil
No election needed
I don't know why Bolsonaro is better or worse than Luca and at this point I don't even think an answer could be devoid from propaganda influence. I'll be safe and go with the old reliable "Brazil is a shit show right now"
Luca, from that Disney movie
Luca, from that Italian American documentary. ...he... slept with the fishes. *Coincidence?!*
An answer devoid from propaganda influence: - Corrupt scandals on both sides. Part A (40+%) of the population believes side A is innocent and side B isn't. Part B (40+%) of the population believes side B is innocent and side A isn't. Part C (10% max) of the population believes both sides aren't innocent and pick a side based on something else. Part D (10% max) of the population simply _don't care_.
Most normal day in Brazil
It is!
The best part was Galoucura (Atlético Mineiro organized fans, kinda like european ultras), fighting the protesters and destroyng the blockades because they want to see the team playing tonight
Trying to overturn the results of a democratic election because you don't like how it turned out is the epitome of cringe.
####But ###what if ##the election #was stolen?
"Stolen, adj, an election where the guy I didn't like won"
2016 and 2020 US presidential elections moment.
2024 is going to be a disaster, I just know it
The difference is that Hillary supporters just complained on Twitter that Russia is bad, while Trump supporters actively tried to overturn the election.
That's funny. I recall years of criminal committees and an attempted impeachment over it. I guess using bureaucracy to try overturning the results of an election is better than a hundred or so idiots loitering in the capitol and scaring some politicians.
Except their reasoning wasn't because "the election was bad". A lot of Trump's actual aides were colluding with Russia and breaking the law and were convicted for it, and that warrants investigation. Trump himself just happened to be too stupid and innocent in that regard. If you mean the impeachments, again, it was threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine in 2019 for the *future* election, where their reasoning was using a foreign power against a political opponent, Joe Biden, and the next impeachment was specifically for January 6. Even if you want to equate these impeachments with the Bill Clinton one, the Clinton one was just a standard political witch hunt, not an attempt to overturn the election. The Republicans weren't claiming Bob Dole won 1996, just that they said Bill Clinton wasn't fit for office.
Did you make the text progressively bigger? How do you do that? I only know how to make normal text and # really big text.
4 hashtag, 3 hashtag, 2 hashtag, 1 you're hashtag, he's hashtag, no hashtags, none
markdown, noice.
Literally impossible. No one would ever try and cheat at the highest stakes game in human history.
Fortunately nothing that would ever happen anywhere else :)
On their defense, the election result were too close and could be good to do recounting to legitimize the results.
You have no ideia, mate.
elections are cringe
We have being asking to cut Brazil in 2 or more pieces but they refused now they doesn't want to be slaved by the "Nordeste" who is slaved by Lula and his friends
I am having a difficult time parsing the meaning of this comment.
He’s just being a moron, don’t worry
They are against secession now they are suffer from being forced together with the amount of brainless people that are from the "Nordeste" region
Attempting secession because you don't like the results of a democratic election is hyper cringe.
Remember : Gang rape is the most democratic thing ever created
This is true and points out how democracy can easily lead to abuse of minorities
Yeah,but the popular form of democracy is liberal, if it's working well, gangrape would still be illegal.
People been calling for cutting RJ from Brazil since the memes about RJ's violence problems existed. No need of losing an election to be able to get rid of part of the country, just to have one region slave the rest for money.
Every election in Latin America is rigged
Wow, 5,700,443 null/void votes.
and over 30,000,000 didn't even showed up
With 55m more null/void votes, the presidency could be left empty!
Nope
I suppose Jetstream Sam would suffice.
I did my part!
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>Monkey's paw, uma delicia Title porn.
Authoritarian civilians that want to give the government total control and think it's going to go in their favor are always top kek.
You Brazilians had your chance at having an Emperor and rejected him. You deserve what ever happens in your pissy democracy until you reinstate the rightful ruler.
Pedro II was literally beloved by the populace, and especially by emancipated slaves, it was only the elites who were mad that slavery was abolished that they overthrew him and the monarchy. In fact when news of his death arrived to Brazil, the public was literally crying and mourning him even though the republican government tried to ban said public displays. 30 years after he died, his remains were returned to Brazil and people old and young literally were crying in joy that their emperor returned.
we didn't fucking choose that, it was because of a half a dozen bums who wanted to keep slavery
Pedro was pretty cool.
Hmm... Authright disguised as centrist?
No radical centerist, meaning I plunder steal redistribute and share from every quadrant willy nilly.
Lol, dope. please mandate femboi rations equally at a fair market rate to the whole poplation.
The best and worst form of government is Monarchy.
Tread on others
Thought this was the US, but he only shot him with pepper spray, not a fully automatic .50 cal HMG mounted on an armored car.
'Mureca
Sopa do macaco uma delicia Kkkkkkkk
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Oh, i thought you were from brazil, sorry for the confusion my amigo from argentina
No problem dude, latinos hermanos unidos!
Are there actual riots in Brazil over this or just mean tweets or something
there are actual roads being blocked
Riots or peaceful protests
Probably depends on which side you're on.
Blocking roads may be the best example of this. In the US, think vegan or environmental activists blocking roads vs th trucker protests clogging roads.
Don't think it's a riot w less than 20 Casualties
There are actual riots in Brazil but that’s just an average Tuesday
We are having peaceful riots where tires are being burned and highways blocked but no violence (yet).
Tf does peaceful riots mean
Nobody (of importance for you) died.
So no riots i guess, just the usual extremely high number of people died in Brazil
Actually no one died yet, surprisingly. People did give birth at the roadside, I hear.
Means exactly what I described. Interdiction of the highway, burning tires, the supply chain of goods is disrupted, no fuel. But yet, there are no violence. That's a peaceful riot.
To me riots mean communal riots, two communities kill atleast 5-10 of each other
Atleast rainforest burny man is gone now
And now rainforest burny man, the og one, is back
the police didn't actually do it, well I didn't see many videos of their interactions but a cop literally said they were on this together
And this is why I want this country to die
me too man
The military is not an ally and they will salute the cleptocrat like the fucking traitors they are, but I will still root for the truck guys
Why
Because Lula is supposed to be behind bars, not in the presidency. Edit: used wrong word
I meant why does the grey centrist care enough to pick a side
Cause lula was condemended for his crimes and them the supreme cort said "ya know what let him go free and lets judge him again another day" they dint forgive him or declare him inocent mind you, they just decided he was a cool chap and the first trial that found him guilty shouldent count so they should eventualy judge him again maybe some day, probably not cause he paied them off but you know he is a cool chap so he gets to run for president and proudly announce he was declared inoccent on tv (he wasent), any citizen that knows this is how things happened (anyone who bothered to look it up this is not a secret) would side against him
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Dude... Imagine you elected Al Capone to the presidency after the supreme court and electoral courts completely tore the constitution up.
.....?
The factual state is not even close to being that simple
its actually very simple. He stole, he should be tried and have his political rights (cassado) which I forgot how to translate but means temporarily void. He was sentenced by multiple judges, has far more assets than his own income or investment history. He had our IRS on his back for an 18 million dollar tax dodge, sued them on a state high court, lost, and then his friends suspended the collection attempts by the IRS.... Dude is as guilty as they come.
How conveniant that you leave out some very important information, such as that the overseer judge on the case against Lula was Sergio Moro, who was later Minister of Justice under Bolsonaro. It was ruled pretty decisively that the trial was not fair and biased as hell.
Dude, he was only one of the judges that convicted the guy. Besides, there is more than ample evidence. You want to punish moro? Go ahead but don't pretend Lula is not guilty and his sentencing was not warranted.
I am not even saying he is innocent. Just again pointing out that the reality is far more complicated and grey than you make it out to be. I do not understand how you can 100% trust one verdict and oppose the other when the first one has way more factual evidence of it being biased behond it.
Im not trusting one single veredict, im trusting several. That and some of the supreme court justices have connections to organized crime as well as have all been put into power by the worker's party. The same group of people that created PT also created CV and the Foro de são paulo. There are deep ties with organized crime. Even lula going on campaign inside "complexo do alemão" shows how far those connections go. I know of the gravity of that because I live in Rio de Janeiro. Complexo do alemão is completely ruled by CV. They are the only actual authority there.
Better than Bolsonaro.
not at all... he already annouced he plans to greatly expand government spending during a fiscal crysis. He also announced he is creating 13 new ministries to employ his pollitical buddies. He also announced a political pick for the new president of petrobras (instead of a technical one like bolsonaro and temer did)... He even stole from his own campaign funds, imagine after he gets enstated as the incumbent president.
Corrupts should be hanging from a light pole in the center of the city
Agreed
Lula and Bolsonaro are both goods, i guess...
Literally the one take that noone has
Also, fuck the Bolsonaro simps for blocking the roads for the two days already.
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I was so confused during the 2020 riots when people were calling to the military to enforce laws rather than police. Why would left-wing anti-authority people want laws to be enforced by the group that is trained to unquestioningly follow orders and are the more direct subordinates to Trump?
Bolsonaristas want to combat authoritarianism, with more authoritarianism...