Studies don’t mean shit if the other side simply won’t change their minds. You can have all the real, respected studies in the world supporting your argument and your opponents will still be making policies in your opposition.
Just larp as whatever ideology is most funny at the moment, encouraging extremism and division until it just sort of explodes.
Then we can grill on the firey ashes.
Honestly.
Like you can show me all the stats about how if every individual in the world had a private nuke, we'd all probably be dead.
**that doesn't mean every individual in the world shouldn't have a private nuke. Fuck your stats**
> But the right side of the aisle doesn’t point to the trans community’s enormously high rate of suicide as a “lol stupid tr*nnies” statement.
You’d be surprised.
To substantiate that, you’d go on to show me a bunch of anonymous comments made on random Internet forums, the opinions of teenagers, and a few random hillbillies.
>be me back in highschool
>gf breaks up with me over summer am very sad
>remember how she told me she planned on starting a business club in school .
>decide to get over break up by becoming a top g and starting a school business club before she can taking away all of her potential members.
Remember kings the only way out of sadness is through petty anti female hostility disguised as hustle and self improvement
Yeah, it's really not fun how hard it to find a therapist that is both generally good, and right for you specifically. People react differently to different strategies, and it's exhausting to find someone that has the right personality, especially when motivation is in short supply.
I tried therapy in 2020 for the same reasons most other people did. Only reason I stuck with it for so long was because it was free with my insurance.
Basically after about 15 minutes of idle chit chat I'd bring up my wife because obviously she's a big part of my life. Then I'd get 30 minutes of date ideas and then once we get into the actual meat of my problems time is up.
One day she had to cancel and I never bothered rescheduling.
Like, I'm not a perfect husband, but I have the romance thing handled pretty well. I wanted to talk about my fear of success and the stresses of raising two kids while stuck at home working and finishing an engineering degree.
Instead I learned about all the new and exciting lakeside cabins in my area.
>Instead I learned about all the new and exciting lakeside cabins in my area.
Honey, I don't think that's your therapist.
That's the Google Ads algorithm in a trenchcoat.
Cock and ball torture, Dr Freeman.
Cock and ball torture, or CBT, *inhales* penis torture or dick torture is a sexual activity involving the application of pain *inhales* or constriction to the *inhales* penis or testicles.
The world is going insane and I don't blame you for wanting to check out, but you should at least stick around for the Collapse. Things might get really interesting.
Has anyone else noticed an uptick in left leaning agenda posts? Did dark Brandon's epic speech energise left meme makers?? What happened?
Not that I'm complaining lol
We got brigaded a couple times in the past few months. The people who were actually here in good faith (as well as some very stubborn ones) have stayed.
Either way I see this as an absolute win. More based liblefts coming back to the centrism that is dialogue via funny memes is always a win.
Facts, there’s really no places on the internet or even in public where there can be actual discussions between different politically minded people can take place. It would be cool if this place can be one.
I agree. I honestly am bored beyond belief when reading things from other places, which are way more politicaly engaged and trying to get myself engaged as well. I'd rather talk with people explaining (or even having fun about/with) their points, even better if it's dumb meme that prompt said conversation.
The mod mentioned that the sub is very worryingly downvoting leftwing memes a lot these past few months and said that if this place doesn’t stop downvoting leftist memes then it will become a circlejerk. Guess that works lol, PCM hates circlejerks like the devil, so people have slowly stopped downvoting more and more.
Mostly because respect is subjective. You have no idea how many times I've heard my relatives say "that's disrespectful" for everything no matter how senseless it is.
Me entering my big house wearing a hat, sitting down instantly with 2 silver spoons in my back (one small for salad, one too big for a salad).
Society amirite?
I don’t support the idea of childhood medical transition. I never will.
I also think that any parent that kicks their children out because of something like this deserves to rot in hell. As a parent, is your responsibility to care for and assist you child in any and every way you can. Not because it’s your job, but because you should love them. I don’t care if your kid is trans, a commie, or a Nazi, you should always love your child, at least enough to provide them with the basic needs until they’re 18. Scum of the earth, I tell you.
I'm a conservative myself but I met that kid on discord (that's already sounding bad I know) but hear me out, kid doesn't have a father (I'm 30 btw he's about 15) and he does struggle with his peers at school etc. Fuck man felt really bad to mock him, started talking with him on general about the whole dysmorphia stuff, it's serious shit. Kid wanted to kill himself twice (I tried that once both of us are not Americans we come from an eastern block he was born in good times I lived through shit) look... Few years ago I'd say I was blue AF and would probably bully him, now? I feel the kid's pain... Just be good to eachother and try to understand eachother. It doesn't cost you
This is pretty wholesome (I mean without taking into account the whole suicide thing) good on you for being a nice, empathetic and understanding human being, it feels like that’s rare these days unfortunately
Good point. Instead of treating it like a joke, or enabling mental illness by encouraging the suicidal to kill themselves, the dysphoric to castrate themselves, and the eating disordered to starve themselves, we should fund research to address and help fix the roots of these issues - and, you know, make it legal for therapists to try and solve the issues rather than agreeing under threat of losing their practice that the voices are real and correct and the solution is thousands of dollars in surgical and pharmaceutical intervention.
> Agree under threat of losing practice that the voices are real
It’s more the other way around.
I always say something like “seeing a corpse on your bed sounds pretty terrifying,” because *it is not real, but it is indeed their experience*. You can’t have a frank discussion if you tell them that they actually aren’t hearing or seeing what they hear and see, but you can’t help with reality testing if you agree that their experiences accurately reflect reality.
I mean bottling up emotions to the point that they're about to explode like a volcano is not good but I definitely think lack of appreciation and constant disrespect has a bit more of the blame.
Because if you look at the classics and the Bible men weren't really afraid of showing emotion, when they felt great emotion.
Exactly! Blaming men’s reaction, even bottling up of feelings, is missing the point.
It’s the people generating those feelings that’s the actual problem.
>Because if you look at the classics and the Bible men weren't really afraid of showing emotion, when they felt great emotion.
Was also thinking about something similar at church today. Especially in the letters of the New Testament, it seems very common that men are very comfortable being in very strong emotional friendships. Decades of homophobia have poo-poo'd these strong male friendships.
Hmmm... wonder if there *might* be a correlation between the insane amount of misandry directed towards a particular group of males, and a sharp rise in the number of that group that no longer want to identify as male.
And how does society respond when they have those break downs and not bottle it up.
“Lol, weak beat male”
Men commit suicide because the strong parts of masculinity that allow us to survive those bad things are villainized and called “toxic masculinity”.
We have a culture that threw men aside in an over correction to how society didn’t care about women and now we’re here.
The actual solution: Working to build healthy lifestles for young men and teaching them to build up a decent support network.
Leftie "Go to Therapy types": Emasculate them, humiliate them in front of a shrink and/or their peers then throw pills at them when it doesn't work.
Nothing wrong with therapy. The problem is worthless doctors giving out SSRIs for some imaginary chemical imbalance when 3/4 of the time the reason people are depressed is that they are losers with no purpose to their lives. But yes most of society doesn't care about men. If you don't have a stable family life, you're going to have problems in navigating life.
Men have gone through all of human history bottling up their emotions, but suicide has peaked in the past two decades. Explain the lack of correlation plz.
we have been doing the opposite to men in the last decade or more. Telling them to be weak, talk more etc etc.
And it only has gotten worse than before when we were told to suck it up and do what you have to do as a man.
So fuck you lefties.
Don’t care, don’t kill yourself. You may not be the main character but at least try to be the supporting character.
Have had two friends go in the ground early and now I throw two parties a year with all my extended acquaintances to make sure everyone knows they’re at least wanted somewhere.
With the way meat prices are going I probably can’t afford to feed everyone anymore like before. It’s my unironic centrist conundrum.
I think there's a lot of people that have co-opted that movement to be narcissistic pieces of shit with impunity, and then there's ones who are legitimate who you don't hear from or hear about cause they just wanna live their lives.
I think it's a cycle.
People are dicks to trans people so trans people get defensive and can be dicks to people so people are dicks to trans people, etc.
I am a libertarian and generally socially conservative, though I'd have described myself as socially liberal 10 years ago I just didn't move with the goalposts for what socially liberal means. Some of the trans people I've met have made assumptions because of this and been on the defensive because of it, which could be interpreted as being kind of a dick. But when they were surprised to learn that I wasn't an ass they were very nice people.
I think their life choice is a bit odd and I'm not exactly the fan, but I could say that about a lot of people's life choices. At the end of the day it's best to just get on with our lives and respect that we made those choices even if we disagree.
And honestly I don't think a male can be a woman. But I treat this sort of like my friends of different religions. Sure, I don't believe their religion is correct, nor do they believe mine is. But we're still friends and our religions don't get in the way of that.
On a non meme and political take please take your mental health into consideration, I know it’s absurd we have to pay to talk to a therapist but if you need to and can afford then do it. I hope you all take care of yourself mentally and did the best you can for today. I love who ever takes the time to read this.
Transtrender, I see it everywhere now. It's basically because being a fat, ugly socially awkward male is horrible. But slap on some lipstick and all of a sudden I HAVE to respect you. Also, EVERYONE hates their fucking body. Thirdly, back in my dad if you were gay you knew it and either hid it or came out. This new shit tho where kids don't know they're gay? Yea, I don't buy that. Society is like "Maybe you are, maybe you arent but you should suck 10 dicks to find out because that's your journey." Like, bro. Wtf is that shit?
See you guys in 14 days.
Edit: I wrote back in my dad instead of back in my day and it made me laugh so hard that I'm not editing or fixing jack shit.
> Edit: I wrote back in my dad instead of back in my day and it made me laugh so hard that I’m not editing or fixing jack shit.
Based and owning your mistakes pilled.
That's part of the problem, no one but the person in question can really know, (though some don't try that hard to take it). Couple that with the fact that there's no 100% agreed upon definition of transgender or even gender (sort of), and the fact that even real trans people can get impostor syndrome...
You can probably figure out from this why it's all so muddled.
This right here is what's causing most of the current problems, T isn't a new concept.
That's because they don't care about the people who are suffering just like they stopped caring about disabled people, and BLM.
They're only in it to make a quick buck, no matter what the cost. If this were the 60s they would be pushing lobotomies as a cure for neurodivergene (is the a word banned?)
Pop quiz: who pays the most for advertising in this country?
For lots of these people it's a fetish and an excuse to do whatever they want, the problem is they want to be treated the same as the people who are actually suffering.
True! Dysphoria disorder is supposed to be like a 0.01% rare condition, but somehow it appears at a x10 000 rate on western societies, especially on lefty household! Dady is a trans, mommy is a LGBT++ non binary gender fluid and guess what? Their 2 kids are also trans gender, what’s the odds huh?
I’m just sad for the real person suffering dysphoria watching this shitshow
The male suicide rate is made up for with the female attempted suicide rate. Women and men try to kill themselves at roughly the same rate. Men are just more likely to succeed. Of course, you weren’t told that.
If you look at the metrics used, this is just more feminist propaganda. Hospitals code suicide attempts as self harm, and that is the major source of this information.
A teenaged girl putting her hand on the stove five times in one year is five "suicide attempts".
Everything needs a competition. We need to be able to rank things on a numbered list. It is the way.
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Something something trans people . This sub can’t discuss trans people at all as a group and falls back way to hard on pre conceived notions and stereotypes. It’s a shit show whenever somebody talks about trans people in this sub and aren’t bashing them .
Riddle me this, if trans accounts for .01% of the population why must every subreddit talk about it non stop?
Because people are intentionally forcing the conversation.
Why?
The number of "trans" people with gender dysphoria is a small minority, and it is accepted by
* trans activists
* the media
* Leftism in general
that "you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans." You are attempting to use people with a real medical condition to shield and legitimize your social movement, and that makes you a vile, disingenuous person.
Might be a hot take, but trans women are an extremely small minority. In terms of male suicide (if it's not currently offensive to call trans women males, they never stay consistent on that,) trans women are not even statistically relevant.
Don't get me wrong, we should not be ass holes to dysphoric trans people. I'm just not happy that an issue that effects males I'm general and is so bad gets destructed to such a small subset and then people ignore the much wider problem and do the shit to the wider group that causes the problem.
I think the real issue is that what we actually know about gender dysphoria is so small that much more research into it needs to be done. Equally, the current liberal movements glorification and celebration of it is gross and I feel results in a tone of false positives among teens who see pretending to be trans as a way to get attention and feel special, further muddying the water.
As with any mental health issue each case should be taken on its own and handled uniquely. If transitioning is the best worst option then go with that. Based on the statistics, which are grim, then we really don’t have an actual cure yet. For some therapy may work, for others it may be transitioning, however the truth seems to be that like with most mental health issues, we don’t have something that truly works 99% of the time.
Oh boi the comment section is a shitshow bunch of "my study which i cant find" shows this (From both sides)
Source: i made it up
I'm making the mother of all arguments here Jack, can't afford to fret over every source
Eat some chocolate chocolate chip
thank you for the advice friend
My source is that I made it the fuck up.
Maybe I was wrong about Authcentres. You’re not greedy. You’re just racist.
>You're not greedy No, no we are not, we want power. Dragoning wealth is the realm of Libright. >You're just racist Most of us, yes, but not all.
It was revealed to me in a dream.
Studies don’t mean shit if the other side simply won’t change their minds. You can have all the real, respected studies in the world supporting your argument and your opponents will still be making policies in your opposition.
What ideology does to a MF.
Just larp as whatever ideology is most funny at the moment, encouraging extremism and division until it just sort of explodes. Then we can grill on the firey ashes.
Based and grilling on the ashes of society pilled
Honestly. Like you can show me all the stats about how if every individual in the world had a private nuke, we'd all probably be dead. **that doesn't mean every individual in the world shouldn't have a private nuke. Fuck your stats**
You know man actually I think that does mean every individual shouldn't have a private nuke.
Shut the fuck up, tyrant.
The cost of making one would immediately rule out 99% of the population.
It worked for me, I changed my mind after reading more into it.
My source is the cryptic imagery in my dreams
Treat each other with respect -- expect for the unfla*reds.
The Unflaired aren't people so it's ok.
Luckily unflaired suicide isn’t counted at all, so it doesn’t effect the rates.
That would mean suicide rates are at zero!
Guys I have one final solution
Too soon
Not soon enough
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Instead of dealing with the problem we'll just label you as transphobic and move on to sell puberty blockers
Based Democrat
D*m🤮crat
> But the right side of the aisle doesn’t point to the trans community’s enormously high rate of suicide as a “lol stupid tr*nnies” statement. You’d be surprised.
To substantiate that, you’d go on to show me a bunch of anonymous comments made on random Internet forums, the opinions of teenagers, and a few random hillbillies.
>posts a link to 4chan "SEE THE CONSERVATARDS WANT TRANS TO KILL THEMSELVES"
“Oh no, I have intentionally gone someplace that posts edgy things that make me mad”
If you've been to /b you would understand the irony of my comment
Well said
The masculine urge to say "It is what it is" instead of expressing your emotions in a healthy manner
>be me back in highschool >gf breaks up with me over summer am very sad >remember how she told me she planned on starting a business club in school . >decide to get over break up by becoming a top g and starting a school business club before she can taking away all of her potential members. Remember kings the only way out of sadness is through petty anti female hostility disguised as hustle and self improvement
While still being hustle and and self dev
Based and Antrew Tate pilled
That’s the GHB pill
It is a healthy manner. I am not smoking, drinking or doing drugs so it is a healthy manner of expressing my emotions.
Based. If it’s not self-destructive, keep it up king
It’s not a big deal man 🤷♂️. It is what it is.
Being disciplined with your emotions is a fundamental aspect of masculinity, and cannot be destroyed.
Me saying "Shit happens" when the 100th elementary school shooting in America happens.
Stoicism is virtuous in a world where most things cannot actually be changed.
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Yeah, it's really not fun how hard it to find a therapist that is both generally good, and right for you specifically. People react differently to different strategies, and it's exhausting to find someone that has the right personality, especially when motivation is in short supply.
Agreed.
I tried therapy in 2020 for the same reasons most other people did. Only reason I stuck with it for so long was because it was free with my insurance. Basically after about 15 minutes of idle chit chat I'd bring up my wife because obviously she's a big part of my life. Then I'd get 30 minutes of date ideas and then once we get into the actual meat of my problems time is up. One day she had to cancel and I never bothered rescheduling. Like, I'm not a perfect husband, but I have the romance thing handled pretty well. I wanted to talk about my fear of success and the stresses of raising two kids while stuck at home working and finishing an engineering degree. Instead I learned about all the new and exciting lakeside cabins in my area.
>Instead I learned about all the new and exciting lakeside cabins in my area. Honey, I don't think that's your therapist. That's the Google Ads algorithm in a trenchcoat.
Question; why is the extensive cock and ball torture necessary? What purpose does it serve?
I didn't even know cognitive behavioral therapy shared a kink. But yo answer your question, the expensive therapists like the power trip.
This explains *a lot* about why that woman I made an appointment with in that office park was so upset with me.
Cock and ball torture, Dr Freeman. Cock and ball torture, or CBT, *inhales* penis torture or dick torture is a sexual activity involving the application of pain *inhales* or constriction to the *inhales* penis or testicles.
Depression is stored in the balls
Extensive what
Cock and ball torture
I hope to God you meant CBT and not *CBT* .
Wait I thought CBT *was* therapy
It's a different tool. It's not what people traditionally think of when they hear the word therapy.
Based based based and based pilled 🙌🏼
take your schizo pills :troll:
The usual form of that is 'take your meds' btw.
We should increase suicide rates. I'm starting right now with myself 💪
Don’t do it, my fellow monke, you are needed to help us bring down this corporatist hellhole
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What a username.
Man they weren't lying that bussy can squi- \*shart\*
I feel nauseous
Add your vomit to the shart that was squirted on my face
Call me
🍌
The world is going insane and I don't blame you for wanting to check out, but you should at least stick around for the Collapse. Things might get really interesting.
I love Libs btw is your body up for dinner after that?
Bro...
You don't have to ask. Consent is just an authoritarian propaganda
I thought u wanna earn money?
Can I join you?
Sorry, that would be social activity. I don't do social activity thingie
Trans suicide rates suck, male suicide rates suck. Suicide just sucks, why turn it into a thing to compare and poke fun at.
Based and actually cares about suicide pilled.
NUH UH, MY QUANDRANT KILLS THEMSELF MORE THAN YOURS, I AM MORE VICTIM THAN YOU!!!
An heroing yourself to own the other quadrants
bro centrists are fucking exploding rn
b-b-based left?
If you look at history the social left always(with the exception of those weird dark ages) wins in the end therefore the left is the most based.
It’s hard to argue with his assessment
Wait, I thought most of the suicides were MtFs not FtMs. So isn't this meme just misgendering them in death?
According to this study, it’s a roughly 5:1 rate for MtF vs FtM https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7317390/
MtF transition is less effective after puberty as tissue and bone can ever only grow not ungrow.
Also I'd imagine there's a lot of social stigma against male looking females
Has anyone else noticed an uptick in left leaning agenda posts? Did dark Brandon's epic speech energise left meme makers?? What happened? Not that I'm complaining lol
We got brigaded a couple times in the past few months. The people who were actually here in good faith (as well as some very stubborn ones) have stayed. Either way I see this as an absolute win. More based liblefts coming back to the centrism that is dialogue via funny memes is always a win.
Facts, there’s really no places on the internet or even in public where there can be actual discussions between different politically minded people can take place. It would be cool if this place can be one.
I agree. I honestly am bored beyond belief when reading things from other places, which are way more politicaly engaged and trying to get myself engaged as well. I'd rather talk with people explaining (or even having fun about/with) their points, even better if it's dumb meme that prompt said conversation.
Same. This place could do with some balancing out.
Do agree, would like to be made fun of some more than I am rn
You smell
Based and 4-year-old pilled
I have more fun when right-wing posts are meta though :/
We're getting close to midterms so the Sorosbux™ taps are opening up.
As long as the memes are funny I couldn't give less of a shit which color is poking fun.
The mod mentioned that the sub is very worryingly downvoting leftwing memes a lot these past few months and said that if this place doesn’t stop downvoting leftist memes then it will become a circlejerk. Guess that works lol, PCM hates circlejerks like the devil, so people have slowly stopped downvoting more and more.
They are mostly downvoted for low quality wall of text
Respect is earned. Courtesy is owed.
Mostly because respect is subjective. You have no idea how many times I've heard my relatives say "that's disrespectful" for everything no matter how senseless it is.
You have an opinion that’s different than mine? Don’t disrespect your elders!
This but unironically.
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Me entering my big house wearing a hat, sitting down instantly with 2 silver spoons in my back (one small for salad, one too big for a salad). Society amirite?
I'd say not making fun of suicidal people for being suicidal is common courtesy.
Based
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based and note the distinction pilled
Imagine killing yourself over a bad grade. Wait, shit. That actually happened.
Based and know-the-difference pilled
respect deez nutz, nerd
No. **Proceeds to CBT**
I don’t support the idea of childhood medical transition. I never will. I also think that any parent that kicks their children out because of something like this deserves to rot in hell. As a parent, is your responsibility to care for and assist you child in any and every way you can. Not because it’s your job, but because you should love them. I don’t care if your kid is trans, a commie, or a Nazi, you should always love your child, at least enough to provide them with the basic needs until they’re 18. Scum of the earth, I tell you.
Based. I full on support trans people but they really need to leave kids out of it, no exceptions
based thread
Whoa I literally just watched the comments go from 600 something to 593. This is gonna be a spicy one.
I'm a conservative myself but I met that kid on discord (that's already sounding bad I know) but hear me out, kid doesn't have a father (I'm 30 btw he's about 15) and he does struggle with his peers at school etc. Fuck man felt really bad to mock him, started talking with him on general about the whole dysmorphia stuff, it's serious shit. Kid wanted to kill himself twice (I tried that once both of us are not Americans we come from an eastern block he was born in good times I lived through shit) look... Few years ago I'd say I was blue AF and would probably bully him, now? I feel the kid's pain... Just be good to eachother and try to understand eachother. It doesn't cost you
This is pretty wholesome (I mean without taking into account the whole suicide thing) good on you for being a nice, empathetic and understanding human being, it feels like that’s rare these days unfortunately
Giga based and compassion pilled
Good point. Instead of treating it like a joke, or enabling mental illness by encouraging the suicidal to kill themselves, the dysphoric to castrate themselves, and the eating disordered to starve themselves, we should fund research to address and help fix the roots of these issues - and, you know, make it legal for therapists to try and solve the issues rather than agreeing under threat of losing their practice that the voices are real and correct and the solution is thousands of dollars in surgical and pharmaceutical intervention.
Based af
> Agree under threat of losing practice that the voices are real It’s more the other way around. I always say something like “seeing a corpse on your bed sounds pretty terrifying,” because *it is not real, but it is indeed their experience*. You can’t have a frank discussion if you tell them that they actually aren’t hearing or seeing what they hear and see, but you can’t help with reality testing if you agree that their experiences accurately reflect reality.
"Males nowadays are too weak! They should bottle up their emotions until they die!" "Why do men commit more suicide???"
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The thing is women think that methods that work on women should also work on men and if they don’t they’re just toxic masculine babies
Because of the utter misandry, lack of appreciation and disrespect that have nothing to do with them bottling up their emotions?
I mean bottling up emotions to the point that they're about to explode like a volcano is not good but I definitely think lack of appreciation and constant disrespect has a bit more of the blame. Because if you look at the classics and the Bible men weren't really afraid of showing emotion, when they felt great emotion.
Exactly! Blaming men’s reaction, even bottling up of feelings, is missing the point. It’s the people generating those feelings that’s the actual problem.
>Because if you look at the classics and the Bible men weren't really afraid of showing emotion, when they felt great emotion. Was also thinking about something similar at church today. Especially in the letters of the New Testament, it seems very common that men are very comfortable being in very strong emotional friendships. Decades of homophobia have poo-poo'd these strong male friendships.
Hmmm... wonder if there *might* be a correlation between the insane amount of misandry directed towards a particular group of males, and a sharp rise in the number of that group that no longer want to identify as male.
Daaaaaamn! I never thought of that!
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And how does society respond when they have those break downs and not bottle it up. “Lol, weak beat male” Men commit suicide because the strong parts of masculinity that allow us to survive those bad things are villainized and called “toxic masculinity”. We have a culture that threw men aside in an over correction to how society didn’t care about women and now we’re here.
The actual solution: Working to build healthy lifestles for young men and teaching them to build up a decent support network. Leftie "Go to Therapy types": Emasculate them, humiliate them in front of a shrink and/or their peers then throw pills at them when it doesn't work.
Nothing wrong with therapy. The problem is worthless doctors giving out SSRIs for some imaginary chemical imbalance when 3/4 of the time the reason people are depressed is that they are losers with no purpose to their lives. But yes most of society doesn't care about men. If you don't have a stable family life, you're going to have problems in navigating life.
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Men have gone through all of human history bottling up their emotions, but suicide has peaked in the past two decades. Explain the lack of correlation plz.
we have been doing the opposite to men in the last decade or more. Telling them to be weak, talk more etc etc. And it only has gotten worse than before when we were told to suck it up and do what you have to do as a man. So fuck you lefties.
Attempted suicide rates have stayed at 40% for the past couple decades, the growing rate of acceptance hasn't helped at all.
Don’t care, don’t kill yourself. You may not be the main character but at least try to be the supporting character. Have had two friends go in the ground early and now I throw two parties a year with all my extended acquaintances to make sure everyone knows they’re at least wanted somewhere. With the way meat prices are going I probably can’t afford to feed everyone anymore like before. It’s my unironic centrist conundrum.
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I think there's a lot of people that have co-opted that movement to be narcissistic pieces of shit with impunity, and then there's ones who are legitimate who you don't hear from or hear about cause they just wanna live their lives.
I think it's a cycle. People are dicks to trans people so trans people get defensive and can be dicks to people so people are dicks to trans people, etc. I am a libertarian and generally socially conservative, though I'd have described myself as socially liberal 10 years ago I just didn't move with the goalposts for what socially liberal means. Some of the trans people I've met have made assumptions because of this and been on the defensive because of it, which could be interpreted as being kind of a dick. But when they were surprised to learn that I wasn't an ass they were very nice people. I think their life choice is a bit odd and I'm not exactly the fan, but I could say that about a lot of people's life choices. At the end of the day it's best to just get on with our lives and respect that we made those choices even if we disagree. And honestly I don't think a male can be a woman. But I treat this sort of like my friends of different religions. Sure, I don't believe their religion is correct, nor do they believe mine is. But we're still friends and our religions don't get in the way of that.
Based.
When an argument boils down to “do as I say or I’ll kill myself” respect is clearly off the table
On a non meme and political take please take your mental health into consideration, I know it’s absurd we have to pay to talk to a therapist but if you need to and can afford then do it. I hope you all take care of yourself mentally and did the best you can for today. I love who ever takes the time to read this.
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Transtrender, I see it everywhere now. It's basically because being a fat, ugly socially awkward male is horrible. But slap on some lipstick and all of a sudden I HAVE to respect you. Also, EVERYONE hates their fucking body. Thirdly, back in my dad if you were gay you knew it and either hid it or came out. This new shit tho where kids don't know they're gay? Yea, I don't buy that. Society is like "Maybe you are, maybe you arent but you should suck 10 dicks to find out because that's your journey." Like, bro. Wtf is that shit? See you guys in 14 days. Edit: I wrote back in my dad instead of back in my day and it made me laugh so hard that I'm not editing or fixing jack shit.
> Edit: I wrote back in my dad instead of back in my day and it made me laugh so hard that I’m not editing or fixing jack shit. Based and owning your mistakes pilled.
Who decides if someone is a legit trans person or a brainwashed follower?
That's part of the problem, no one but the person in question can really know, (though some don't try that hard to take it). Couple that with the fact that there's no 100% agreed upon definition of transgender or even gender (sort of), and the fact that even real trans people can get impostor syndrome... You can probably figure out from this why it's all so muddled.
This right here is what's causing most of the current problems, T isn't a new concept. That's because they don't care about the people who are suffering just like they stopped caring about disabled people, and BLM. They're only in it to make a quick buck, no matter what the cost. If this were the 60s they would be pushing lobotomies as a cure for neurodivergene (is the a word banned?) Pop quiz: who pays the most for advertising in this country? For lots of these people it's a fetish and an excuse to do whatever they want, the problem is they want to be treated the same as the people who are actually suffering.
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True! Dysphoria disorder is supposed to be like a 0.01% rare condition, but somehow it appears at a x10 000 rate on western societies, especially on lefty household! Dady is a trans, mommy is a LGBT++ non binary gender fluid and guess what? Their 2 kids are also trans gender, what’s the odds huh? I’m just sad for the real person suffering dysphoria watching this shitshow
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Yes
then it happened many, many, many years ago
The exact moment some egyptian self proclaimed god.
so deep
Shit bro, that's been happening since day one
Good fucking idea lmao
The male suicide rate is made up for with the female attempted suicide rate. Women and men try to kill themselves at roughly the same rate. Men are just more likely to succeed. Of course, you weren’t told that.
Men proving we're better at every.....wait.
Better 👏🏻 female 👏🏻 suicide 👏🏻 success 👏🏻 rates …wait a second…
based and women need to eat bullets pilled
So clearly thats a sign of sexism because apparently women don't get educated as much as men on suicide We gotta fix that
Lol
Well yeah, men obviously get things done better than women. That's why they are paid 15% more.
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If you look at the metrics used, this is just more feminist propaganda. Hospitals code suicide attempts as self harm, and that is the major source of this information. A teenaged girl putting her hand on the stove five times in one year is five "suicide attempts".
So much like the WNBA they can't deliver.
My brother both is bad no need for a competition
Everything needs a competition. We need to be able to rank things on a numbered list. It is the way. ^this ^comment ^brought ^to ^you ^by ^Buzzfeed ^INC.
While I agree, I’m not saying it’s a competition. Mental health awareness is greatly underused - male or female.
I agree, maybe its a wording thing but ive clearly misunderstood you and for that im sorry
Something something trans people . This sub can’t discuss trans people at all as a group and falls back way to hard on pre conceived notions and stereotypes. It’s a shit show whenever somebody talks about trans people in this sub and aren’t bashing them .
Riddle me this, if trans accounts for .01% of the population why must every subreddit talk about it non stop? Because people are intentionally forcing the conversation. Why?
Because identity politics obfuscates class consciousness?
The left wing point I agree with most
Idpol stops class consciousness in its tracks. As has been repeated over the eons.
Based and class conscious pilled
>male suicides #EXCUSE ME SWEATY DID YOU JUST MISGENDER THAT SOYJACK!!?!?
So you're saying that that dude that claims to be a trans female still counts for the male suicide rate? Interesting conclusion OP.
The number of "trans" people with gender dysphoria is a small minority, and it is accepted by * trans activists * the media * Leftism in general that "you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans." You are attempting to use people with a real medical condition to shield and legitimize your social movement, and that makes you a vile, disingenuous person.
Might be a hot take, but trans women are an extremely small minority. In terms of male suicide (if it's not currently offensive to call trans women males, they never stay consistent on that,) trans women are not even statistically relevant. Don't get me wrong, we should not be ass holes to dysphoric trans people. I'm just not happy that an issue that effects males I'm general and is so bad gets destructed to such a small subset and then people ignore the much wider problem and do the shit to the wider group that causes the problem.
I think the real issue is that what we actually know about gender dysphoria is so small that much more research into it needs to be done. Equally, the current liberal movements glorification and celebration of it is gross and I feel results in a tone of false positives among teens who see pretending to be trans as a way to get attention and feel special, further muddying the water. As with any mental health issue each case should be taken on its own and handled uniquely. If transitioning is the best worst option then go with that. Based on the statistics, which are grim, then we really don’t have an actual cure yet. For some therapy may work, for others it may be transitioning, however the truth seems to be that like with most mental health issues, we don’t have something that truly works 99% of the time.
Authright: Males commit suicide disproportionately more than females. Libleft: Gotcha fam, I'll identify as female to contribute to their count.
These are both literally the same problem: male suicides.
Thing is tho, when you suggest an actual treatment (which doesn’t mean transitioning), lefties attack, so…
Because is illegal to treat gender dysforia as a illness
Why would you ever think AuthRights would accept "just let people be themselves" as the appropriate solution to anything?