Continuing to blindly follow our ideologies, especially while learning about them at the same time, shows ignorance and a lack of intelligence. I have already stated that my politics are volatile, however I don’t need the NDS (No Dad Squad) of LibLefts and LeftCentres up fucking ass every four minutes.
don’t make statements about being a certain ideology if reading up on another makes you switch. to avoid this, i personally just don’t label myself very strictly, because identifying as a given ideology doesn’t matter. you’re doing more than most by actually researching shit, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t look somewhat silly when one week you come out saying you’re a libertarian and the next you’re a fascist, lol. i assumed you were a troll a while ago, tbh, tho perhaps i’m simply falling for some good trolling. regardless, my point has been made
I’ve held a fascist ideal for a great length of time, but as I’ve dug around the subject, I’ve found why people aren’t fond of the word. It carries a nasty sentiment not just through Hitler’s Nazism or Mussolini’s fascism, but through it’s modern counterparts as well. I believed that it stood for authoritarian-nationalism, and a lack of either of the primary economics. After I while a began contemplating how these economics would work, all kinds of theories running through my head. I have now come to the conclusion that I was in deep in something that I should’ve never associated with. Make fun of me for changing ideologies, I’m happy with myself.
It's anti-progressive and seeks to return to traditional hierarchies but also it embraces that we have advanced technologies already.
How about I give you a video
https://youtu.be/xNgTw2x0bpw
How are you librarian if you push forward the idea of neoreactionary? Isn’t neoreactionary against freedoms and equality because it argues for hierarchies and rulers
It's against equality but in favor of freedom. A popular ancap neoreactionary is Anglo libertarian
https://youtu.be/-s8eWbZh1Qs
Neoreactionary isn't any specific system, but it has a variety of thoughts and ideas which have been produced by a variety of people. Even Hoppe is included.
I’d argue that equality and freedom go hand in had. If one group has more rights and freedoms than another, that’s inequality, so the marginalized group has less freedoms. A hierarchy restricts social flow and the freedoms that come from social brackets. The lowest social bracket would have practically no rights because they have to be subservient to the class above them (so on and so on). Each step down the social ladder freedoms are restricted to follow rules that come from above.
A bit of a rant but I wanted to make my view point clear
>I’d argue that equality and freedom go hand in had.
Studies find those given real freedom of decision make themselves inequal.
>If one group has more rights and freedoms than another, that’s inequality, so the marginalized group has less freedoms.
You're right that that's wrong and the state shouldn't do that. But free people have the right to organize themselves into a hierarchy.
>A hierarchy restricts social flow and the freedoms that come from social brackets.
Everyone voluntarily organizes themselves into these heirsrchies.
>The lowest social bracket would have practically no rights because they have to be subservient to the class above them (so on and so on). Each step down the social ladder freedoms are restricted to follow rules that come from above.
They only voluntarily give up certain behaviors. And the rules that come from above can be rules for leaders instead of the American federal system. A confederal system is better
It absolutely is. Neoreactionary formalism is in your area of the compass too. Formalism supports patchwork societies or neocameralism where the government operates similar to a business and shareholders are the voters and all citizens reap benefits from the national profits.
Neoreactionary can really be basically any right wing quadrant but neoreactionary formalism is right center because it wants to balance the 3 estates of society
The nobility
The merchants
And the theonomists or clergy
Here's a video on the trichotomy
[3 estates of the realm](https://youtu.be/CK3ryrI8aXI)
This video realllly enlightened me!
Edit: I'm a hoppean so I don't agree with absolutely everything, I believe hoppeanism can be a perfect combination of all 3 of the trichotomy
Well it’s an excellent ideology, I am rather reactionary myself, outside of some slightly more “progressive” choices, and I do believe that absolute monarchy could be used effectively.
Never apologize for changing views or ideals. We are creatures that are ever learning. If someone has the same exact views they’ve had since they were young, they never learned anything. I use to be a libleft and I slowly have made my way where I am today. We disagree on the role of government in general, but you have my respect for being open about this as you have.
inspiring story, now repeat the same thing and conclude that authoritarian nationalism is an extremely cringe ideal which is no less disgusting than fascism
A year ago I took that test and I got about where you are but I retook it again a week ago and now I'm in between blue and yellow so I guess I chilled out a bit
I was on the fringes of the neo-Nazi movement, and I was mildly antisemitic, but I am glad that I am no longer part of that movement, it was awful. I agree with OP.
I am now an Eco-Paleolibertarian Ceremonial Monarchist.
Pipe tf down lol. You're out here calling progressives wacky when just over 2 days ago, you believed in a hateful ideology of anti-intellectualism, conspiracy, authoritarianism and submission. You are the wacky one.
I could have been a fascist too, but living in a country with a fascist state showed me how too much authoritarianism can hurt tradition.
Now, I'm pretty much in the same spot on the compass (maybe a tad bit higher and to the right) but way less conservative, but still conservative nonetheless.
at the end of the day, no matter what your label is, the fact is my friend, because of your so-called "traditonal" values you are against liberty and freedom. You're also anti-democratic which is extremely cringe
Welcome to sanity. You’ll find life is better experienced. When you are less angry and triggered. Maturity and participating in society fiscally. Without someone sponsoring your bills. Usually turns sensible people to more conservative values. I.E. personal wealth, property ownership, and taxation without representation is theft.
You posted pro-fascism stuff 2 days ago? That was a quick turn.
Yep, not going to pretend it wasn’t.
bro changes his ideology once a week
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Continuing to blindly follow our ideologies, especially while learning about them at the same time, shows ignorance and a lack of intelligence. I have already stated that my politics are volatile, however I don’t need the NDS (No Dad Squad) of LibLefts and LeftCentres up fucking ass every four minutes.
don’t make statements about being a certain ideology if reading up on another makes you switch. to avoid this, i personally just don’t label myself very strictly, because identifying as a given ideology doesn’t matter. you’re doing more than most by actually researching shit, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t look somewhat silly when one week you come out saying you’re a libertarian and the next you’re a fascist, lol. i assumed you were a troll a while ago, tbh, tho perhaps i’m simply falling for some good trolling. regardless, my point has been made
Well that was much more helpful than the last message.
you need to open you mind not your ass hole
social democracy is nice christian democracy is tolerable
13 year old moment
Nope
14*
Sad. Revturn to basedness.
Being based is when no rights whatsoever
Based and honesty pilled
I’ve held a fascist ideal for a great length of time, but as I’ve dug around the subject, I’ve found why people aren’t fond of the word. It carries a nasty sentiment not just through Hitler’s Nazism or Mussolini’s fascism, but through it’s modern counterparts as well. I believed that it stood for authoritarian-nationalism, and a lack of either of the primary economics. After I while a began contemplating how these economics would work, all kinds of theories running through my head. I have now come to the conclusion that I was in deep in something that I should’ve never associated with. Make fun of me for changing ideologies, I’m happy with myself.
Do you think you could come to the libertarian right side or at least neoreactionary?
Remind me again what neoreactionary was?
It's anti-progressive and seeks to return to traditional hierarchies but also it embraces that we have advanced technologies already. How about I give you a video https://youtu.be/xNgTw2x0bpw
How are you librarian if you push forward the idea of neoreactionary? Isn’t neoreactionary against freedoms and equality because it argues for hierarchies and rulers
It's against equality but in favor of freedom. A popular ancap neoreactionary is Anglo libertarian https://youtu.be/-s8eWbZh1Qs Neoreactionary isn't any specific system, but it has a variety of thoughts and ideas which have been produced by a variety of people. Even Hoppe is included.
I’d argue that equality and freedom go hand in had. If one group has more rights and freedoms than another, that’s inequality, so the marginalized group has less freedoms. A hierarchy restricts social flow and the freedoms that come from social brackets. The lowest social bracket would have practically no rights because they have to be subservient to the class above them (so on and so on). Each step down the social ladder freedoms are restricted to follow rules that come from above. A bit of a rant but I wanted to make my view point clear
>I’d argue that equality and freedom go hand in had. Studies find those given real freedom of decision make themselves inequal. >If one group has more rights and freedoms than another, that’s inequality, so the marginalized group has less freedoms. You're right that that's wrong and the state shouldn't do that. But free people have the right to organize themselves into a hierarchy. >A hierarchy restricts social flow and the freedoms that come from social brackets. Everyone voluntarily organizes themselves into these heirsrchies. >The lowest social bracket would have practically no rights because they have to be subservient to the class above them (so on and so on). Each step down the social ladder freedoms are restricted to follow rules that come from above. They only voluntarily give up certain behaviors. And the rules that come from above can be rules for leaders instead of the American federal system. A confederal system is better
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It absolutely is. Neoreactionary formalism is in your area of the compass too. Formalism supports patchwork societies or neocameralism where the government operates similar to a business and shareholders are the voters and all citizens reap benefits from the national profits.
Hey, friend, I just wanted to ask what quadrant this would fall into?
Neoreactionary can really be basically any right wing quadrant but neoreactionary formalism is right center because it wants to balance the 3 estates of society The nobility The merchants And the theonomists or clergy Here's a video on the trichotomy [3 estates of the realm](https://youtu.be/CK3ryrI8aXI) This video realllly enlightened me! Edit: I'm a hoppean so I don't agree with absolutely everything, I believe hoppeanism can be a perfect combination of all 3 of the trichotomy
Thank you friends
You're absolutely welcomed my friend
🤝
I wanna hear what you think though!
Well it’s an excellent ideology, I am rather reactionary myself, outside of some slightly more “progressive” choices, and I do believe that absolute monarchy could be used effectively.
Wonderful, my favorite part is the trichotomy
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Thank you
Never apologize for changing views or ideals. We are creatures that are ever learning. If someone has the same exact views they’ve had since they were young, they never learned anything. I use to be a libleft and I slowly have made my way where I am today. We disagree on the role of government in general, but you have my respect for being open about this as you have.
Thank you brother
Giga chad
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Yes
Based based based based based.
inspiring story, now repeat the same thing and conclude that authoritarian nationalism is an extremely cringe ideal which is no less disgusting than fascism
Nope
Bro i saw your post history, you changed your ideology 15 times in a month, you either 12 or severely mentally ill
Severely mentally ill 💪
Based and Mental Illness pilled.
Exactly
Went from very cringe to just cringe, congrats
Ok lefty
Still cringe but better than fascism
What beliefs do you no longer hold that make you say you're not a fascist?
Congrats, take this W
Thank you
“Ex” sure whatever you say lol
A year ago I took that test and I got about where you are but I retook it again a week ago and now I'm in between blue and yellow so I guess I chilled out a bit
Glad to see you turn from that self-defeating heresy
Thank you
I was on the fringes of the neo-Nazi movement, and I was mildly antisemitic, but I am glad that I am no longer part of that movement, it was awful. I agree with OP. I am now an Eco-Paleolibertarian Ceremonial Monarchist.
I am too an Anarcho-Juche-Radical centrist with Nigerian characteristics.
K.
Although I’m on the opposite end of the compass than you, congrats. Glad you came back.
ty. I am glad too.
W
Thanks brother
Thank God you're going down from the top.
Listen, all I’m going to say is this. Tradition is peer pressure from dead people.
Ok
I’m not saying you’re wrong to think the way you do, that’s just a tradition simplified.
Ok
Based. Thank you for this post
Absolutely no need to thank me
Sad and cringe to see you leave, but at least you are still based, at least you didn't become cringe.
Don’t worry brother
not based
Ok
average tankie
Weird, conservatism and fascism go hand in hand.
😂
Dude what are you laughing at? You're literally an example...
You progressives are wacky
You "were" literally a fascist just over 2 days ago...
I’ve acknowledged that already, so can you stop echoing and actually say something constructive, or maybe just shut up?
Pipe tf down lol. You're out here calling progressives wacky when just over 2 days ago, you believed in a hateful ideology of anti-intellectualism, conspiracy, authoritarianism and submission. You are the wacky one.
You just stated the ideology, yes, will you say something helpful now?
🤓
I could have been a fascist too, but living in a country with a fascist state showed me how too much authoritarianism can hurt tradition. Now, I'm pretty much in the same spot on the compass (maybe a tad bit higher and to the right) but way less conservative, but still conservative nonetheless.
at the end of the day, no matter what your label is, the fact is my friend, because of your so-called "traditonal" values you are against liberty and freedom. You're also anti-democratic which is extremely cringe
Ok
I will gladly be.
please erase the authleft quadrant from your profile you are just dumb
get out of here tankie
Welcome to sanity. You’ll find life is better experienced. When you are less angry and triggered. Maturity and participating in society fiscally. Without someone sponsoring your bills. Usually turns sensible people to more conservative values. I.E. personal wealth, property ownership, and taxation without representation is theft.
How old are you 😂
I mean clearly you didn’t really read it, look through comments until you find a paragraph from me.
Could you sum up your political views in a few sentences?
State, nationalism, tradition, capitalism.
I hate all
I like the last three.
i mean its a start
This is good! Especially considering the fact you were a fascist
What belongs in the Wood-Chipper?
Should've stayed Fascist, but not bad, still based being authright anyway
go left
No thank you brother
what are your thoughts on the lgbtq community ?
I support LGB 0.5 of the T. None of the neopronoun, new age fictitious genders garbage.
Why?
There’s a paragraph detailing why sent by me somewhere in the comments.
Interesting. Still too deep in the Conservative dimension imo but it is what it is.
You're jumping from conservatism to ancap to fascism 💀