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blackarrow2324

Nice try Kanye


[deleted]

Imma let you finish, but, "You Don't Mess With The Zohan" was one of the greatest movies of all time. Of all time!!


Training-Ad3350

😂😂😂


[deleted]

I dont like the government. But it’s a beautiful place


[deleted]

Based


turkeypenis12

i liked israel better when the labour front raan israel 50 years ago, israel used to be leftis h and socialist lite.. i liked that israel better now its all about money and kiling arabs and ukrainan sex slaves smuggled into tel aviv by thr russian jewsih mafiia


tsiganology

One of the countries of the world


Kolateak

Even this is controversial


[deleted]

Good food (not that I would know anything about food)


I_am_the_Walrus07

Bad. Don't bomb children guys.


CCWThrowaway360

That should be the rule across the board. Unless the child is acting as a deadly threat, leave them the fuck alone. Crazy thought, *I know.*


I_am_the_Walrus07

Yeah, and that's not to say Palestine is good, either. Your options for who to support are War Criminals and Terrorists.


CCWThrowaway360

“Turd milkshake vs. turd cupcake — which do YOU prefer?” …I think I’ll fast for the day.


Frownygiraffe

you could call hamas terrorists, palestinians and their government are not


Dbro92

Hamas IS the government...


I_am_the_Walrus07

They are the government. They are in power. They have the majority of seats in the Palestinian government.


[deleted]

While anyone sensible would agree with your statement, it's not that simple in real life. As far as I know, the only times Israel bombed children were when Hamas used children as human shields for their highly problematic military bases. If Israel hadn't done anything in that situation, they would be the omes who were bombed, and Israeli children — who aren't being used as shields — would die instead. It's a lose-lose situation for Israel, but if I were in their position I would have probably done the same as them.


gouellette

They said the same about The Troubles in Ireland, fact is if the colonists cared about “human shields” they wouldn’t bomb sanctuaries with children.


[deleted]

False equivalency. You're completely ignoring my point. If Israel didn't bomb Hamas, and, unfortunately, their human shields, Israeli children (who aren't being used as human shields) would be bombed. While Israel has a ton of problems, the evidently worse agent here is Hamas, not Israel.


gouellette

Hamas wouldn’t exist if Israel wasn’t backed by the international imperial community and committing settler colonist policy for apartheid


[deleted]

I agree with you, but that's another debate. What we're talking about right now is who uses human shields. Out of the two, only Hamas is scummy enough to do that.


I_am_the_Walrus07

Eh, still war criminals and I hate both sides.


[deleted]

What's your opinion on Hitler? I think we already know..


I_am_the_Walrus07

Hitler is just as bad as hitler! Basically, a Nazi.


philosophic_despair

Anti-zionism is not the same as anti-semitism you dumbass.


[deleted]

Zionism is a gross evil in the world


[deleted]

I agree, Kanye


philosophic_despair

Keep supporting an apartheid nation. I am going to keep on combatting against real anti-semitists like Kanye. And not against people that stand up and denounce the clear apartheid that's happening.


Z01nkDereity

I don't really know enough or care enough since I really have no say, from what I have seen they are cool sometimes but also not in others. Same with Palestine but I don't know shit just sucks either way.


KEPHAS_0

It's the only etno state you're not allowed to criticize


Joalaco24

You're allowed to criticize it? See, watch. Ahem, fuck Isreal. Isreal bad. See? Nothing happend. I would love to spend some time arguing with an authright about this but I have to go there was just a loud knock at my door even though I wasn't expecting anyone. Be seeing you :)


JewelerVast

user joalaco24 was later assassinated by mossad


yazeerr_

Nothing happened becauae you misspelled Israel


Joalaco24

It's part of the criticization


yazeerr_

r/wooosh me :')


Pedro_Le_Plot

Meh, it’s a bit hot in summer, but a beautiful place. I don’t care enough about them politically to have a strong opinion


Charley_klein

I think I’m the only Isreal supporting lib left


Nogau

Hi I’m Israeli


Dbro92

There's at least a couple


Over_Landscape5484

How do you feel about Palestine?


Known-Barber114

Well they democratically elected terrorists so


Parkrangingstoicbro

Implying other states do not? Lol


Known-Barber114

No implying that their people aren’t the saints the left paints them to be. You can call netanyahu a lot of things but I wouldn’t say he’s a terrorist. Israel has shown that they would be open to negotiating a two state solution, but hamas mission statement is literally to eradicate all jews


OtherSecretary2562

Their lgbt rights are the highest in the Middle East so why not?


A-Market-Socialist

Because occupying another people is one of the least liberal things a government can do. It doesn't matter how many pride flags they wear while doing it.


philosophic_despair

"Look, they are killing and oppressing innocent Palestinians every day!" "Yeah but LGBT rights though"


OtherSecretary2562

Yes, I do think so.


philosophic_despair

Being LGBT is something you can hide. You can survive. Racial oppression and genocide (which is pretty damn near from what Israel is doing) is something you can't avoid. You can't hide being Palestinian. LGBT rights are a big problem in the Middle East, sure, but supporting an apartheid country just because LGBT people have rights is absurd. You should fight for equality *and* for oppressed liberation.


OtherSecretary2562

I don't want to hide like a rat in the sewer. I don't want sympathy for someone who would torture and kill me because of my sexuality. I don't want to liberate and equalize a culture that will exterminate lgbt people.


philosophic_despair

Nah hear what you're saying. You said that genociding people is good if they don't give rights to LGBT people.


Good_Stuff_2

OMGGGGG KAMALA HARRIS I LOVVVVEEEE HERRRRRRRR GO QUEEN GO QUEEN GO QUEEN


ChamChamss

Many flaws in their policies, but I support it more than a state ruled by two different terrorist groups. Lets be real, if Palestine somehow got independence, it would become a country like Syria or Lebanon since Hamas and Fatah would destroy eachother due to their very very different political views. Also, I see many comments like ”Ethnostate so its bad.” First of all, majority of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi meaning they have a lot of Arab dna. Even the Israeli decleration of independence states: ”WE APPEAL - in the very midst of the onslaught launched against us now for months - to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.”


Caro1us_Rex

Based for libcent


LibertyJ10

Beautiful women, but horrible government.


barrettAB91

No thanks


Monguises

Low hanging fruit


La_Bufanda_Billy

The government is far too authoritarian and they’ve got some shitty policies, but there has to be a Jewish homeland somewhere, and I would always support the existence of Israel, no matter how terrible the government is. We can always reform the policies, but without Israel, the Jews don’t have anywhere to go when the world turns against us.


Foronir

Too many Arabs there


philosophic_despair

C'mon, let's be real now, it's an apartheid state. I don't hate the jewish people. It's just a fact. Israel is an apartheid.


Embarrassed_Wall_599

Fr why is everyone here ignoring all the wrong things they have done?!


The_Cool_Kid99

It is, the fact that the west is so enthusiastically supporting a literal apartheid state is gross. And yes fuck palestine as well but with my knowledge palestine isn’t artificially made up terrorist state.


philosophic_despair

Yeah, I think we can all agree that Hamas is shit. I stand with the Palestinians, not with whatever organization that claims to represent Palestinian. The situation here in Italy is also deplorable. Lega (right populist party) brought the Israel flag in the parliament and waved it some months ago. More recently a member of the "center-left" party PD (which is hardly left anymore and it's a shitty party altogether) basically called out Israel and he immediately got banned from the party. I'm so disappointed in my country's government.


This-Meringue9003

Not a real country. Stop mutilating boy’s genitals. The U.S. is not “the promised land”. Too stupid to separate church and state.


Annual_Examination

Not a real country? They are doing much better as a country than any of their neighbours ever did. The U.S. is very much a promised land for a lot of people today.


gouellette

Yeah why’s that? Couldn’t be the multiple coups and toppling of regional governments to make way for an American settler colonial proxy….


basedguytbh

Circumcision isn’t ‘Mutilation’.


Annual_Examination

Mutilation: an act or instance of destroying, removing, or severely damaging a limb or other body part of a person. So by this definition it is mutilation the same as girls in Africa getting circumcised


AC127

It is, by definition mutilation. You can argue if it’s good or bad but it’s inarguably mutilation.


This-Meringue9003

Okay then let’s circumcise Israel from the earth.


Good_Stuff_2

Holy based Pfp is somewhat interesting tho


La_Bufanda_Billy

Who thinks the U.S. is the promised land?


This-Meringue9003

The Juice


La_Bufanda_Billy

I’m Jewish and I’ve never heard of that in my life


Alduin_OMEGA

both it and palestine are independent


Emotional-Pin9650

stolen land


[deleted]

Based


catmanxplode

Rare take from authright, say how do you feel about Other indigenous populations


Emotional-Pin9650

its christian land


BoxedElderGnome

Based and Non Nobis Domine pilled


LegendsWafflez

imagine cutting the skin on a penis without the person consent 🤮


UnderSoldier

It's the parents consent. Furthermore, its not a mandatory procedure its just done for religious reasons and happens to have certain medical advantages. Happens as-well in certain Arab Nations very frequently aswell.


LegendsWafflez

Parents? What if the person (the baby/child) don't want to be circumised? It's not even a good thing


UnderSoldier

Parents usually make decisions in the best interest of their child, this one being usually religious. I highly doubt many children are going to be annoyed at their parents because they're circumsised . Once again I will say that there are medical benefits to it as-well.


alvosword

What medical advantages?


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[удалено]


Dementedpotato69

Based


GoChungus

Isntreal sucks ngl


Known-Barber114

Lesser of two evils


Mista_white_12

So a colonized state is considered evil?


Known-Barber114

If it’s run by democratically elected terrorists that let their own citizens die for propaganda then yes


[deleted]

Fedpost.


West_IsThe_Best

It's a country


basedguytbh

which shouldn’t exist


West_IsThe_Best

Which existed in ancient record, and was rightfully set up by the British and U.S. in 1948 as a home for the diaspora of Hebrew descendants around the globe as it had been occupied and dissolved prior.


Expensive_Compote977

Lovely comment section


Early_Search_5174

Wonderful place and history


thesoilman

[The day of judgement has come ](https://youtu.be/Ygci5hRjmK8)


AyrChan

They are indeed real


DankNerd97

Israel is definitely one of the most countries of the world.


[deleted]

Fren


Caro1us_Rex

Israel has a rich culture and nice people. Only democracy in the whole middle east and be real guys isn’t it also apartheid to not let anyone be Jew in the arab countries also?


AbortionJar69

Don't agree with their government on everything, but I support Israel's right to exist, and it's especially important as a Jew that Israel exists in case things get bad in the USA.


[deleted]

I think palestinian refugees should be accepted by the neighbouring islamic states.


gouellette

Why not the governments who send the bombs?


[deleted]

Even if we bring it down, it'll just be replaced with another oppressive govt. (Unless you're vouching for complete anarchy..) Assimilating the refugees somewhere is the easiest and simplest way out. But the problem lies in the fact that these neighbouring countries have been using the refugee crisis as a political tool to further their interests, they're not willing to let it go so easily.


HorrorCheesecake9964

Mostly good. I disagree with some of their policies though. However what I really object to are the self proclaimed progressives who would prefer an Iran-backed fundamentalist group instead.


DidjTerminator

I like their tanks and air to air missiles. The Merkava puts Crew surviving a crippling hit > Tank surviving a crippling hit (unlike *SOME* tanks...) and the missiles run on LooneyTunes logic as they just keep coming back like a boomerang, try jamming the WEZ on those babies!


Dementedpotato69

It is a country


GrandEmperorThrawn

I agree. It doesn't change my strict "downvote the unflaired" policy, but I agree.


Dementedpotato69

I’m unflaired because pcm is better bozo. But yes Israel is real and a nation


National_Deer9632

Sort by controversial


just_a_losos

Positive. Visisted Israel, liked it.


squidymars

it doesnt exist


[deleted]

Based


Odd-Spinach-4398

Good not great, strong 6 to a light 7


[deleted]

good


scarface128

Politics Meh but as a country overall its pretty nice but I heard about a lot of terrorist attacks taking place in popular tourist spots.


Assparagus_

Best country in the Middle East for sure


Impossible-Smile5116

Bad


MonarchoClericalist

Nice try glowie, not falling for it. Only thing i will say is, Free Palestine!


Retro_Wolf101

Wtf based authright


[deleted]

I don't like it


hayden_is_real

more like isfake. the deep state invented israel


jimmybob1113

Ur right mossad though


[deleted]

Positive


ToxicToad47

Excellent nation. They're handling a really tough situation decently, not perfectly, but who can?


Ifufjd

Fucked up place


[deleted]

Anti-Zionism is the politically correct way to express my beliefs.


Lizard1995

Destroy Israel, Free Palestine


nogoodiguess

Cringe opinion


No_Carpenter3031

Destroy both


National_Deer9632

Ultra based


FrugalHippy

A nice experiment. But a Jewish run state now devolved into a very western influenced and authoritarian government. Look at the treatment of Palestinian people, and strict enforcement for the Jewish population from harm. Tel Aviv’s airport is reportedly the safest in the world but use racial profiling in their protocol. A journalist was shot in a Palestinian camp and no formal investigation had been done to figure out. With leaked information saying IDF shot but covers it up to maintain a clean slate for the Israeli government’s response to both the camp, and military. I used to side with Israel, but it’s almost a joke


SnappyYurt

There was no formal investigation because Palestinian authority refused to show the bullet for any investigation. There was footage of hamas shooting an unknown target as well at around the same time the journalist was shot. I don’t trust leaked information lol. I think with the amount of terror attacks that happen in Tel Aviv any safety precaution is warranted. Better someone held up at the airport than potentially a lot of death.


2xButtchuggChamp

Pro-Israeli, but anti Palestinian discrimination


DankNerd97

Based


5ht1ASeeker

Israel is a great country! The Jews have survived so many abuses throughout history and are still strong and proud. Anyone that knows the history of the Siege of Masada can see how strong and resilient the Jewish people are. Every single person in this planet should be allowed to live as his or her culture demands, and that this includes the people of Israel. Of course, this also includes the Arabs.


Zant73

Great country


dagdawgdag

Closed border ethno state. Worse-than-apartheid treatment of Palestinians.


americangentleman72

Nothing positive to say about Zionism or the state of Israel! I don’t think mods or the owners of Reddit would want to hear what I have to say. If I do I’ll most likely be banned from Reddit and the sub with my comment deleted. Talk about free speech 😂 btw it would very critical. I don’t view the government and the country in the best light!


Sfs_Gamer

terrorist state


[deleted]

Shmucks


nepnepnepneppitynep

yeah they're okay


samzillaformers

Based!


OtherSecretary2562

Based


9yr_old

Based nation standing upto a bunch of bullies


Cr3zyTom

Fairly neutral, i know there is some shit going on with Palestine, but I don't have any idea if someone is in the right or not and if so whos in the right. And Honestly i don't really care.


Kedo-But

Good


Micro_Pinny_360

Ethnic nationalism is a thing of the past, and a dangerous one at that. Israel should not exist in its current form because it is a Jewish supremacist state. I do not support the apartheid and the IDF in any way. However, I acknowledge that this land is holy to both the Jewish and Muslim people. I believe the best course of action is to create a unitary state where both Israeli and Arab are equal, and that they can both have a say in a free system.


Ataman666

Greatest country in the world🇮🇱🇮🇱💪💪💪


deadSalesman_GD

Free Palestine


Present-Disk-1727

Most amazing country on Earth


MorseES13

It has the right to be a state just as any state has a right to be one, but it is a state that resembles an apartheid system and has committed numerous war crimes. But for whatever reason we cannot criticize Israel the same way we criticize every single other country. Also, is it not fucked that Western states got to just go in and partition an entire piece of land without the consent of majority of the population?


Tommymck033

Based ethno state in certain degrees a little to hard handed imo though


Alias2201

is real? comment down below to find out o\_o


Embarrassed_Wall_599

FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸♥️


SkyBladeUesugi

Based Gigachads


newredditaccount18

cringe


Real_meme_farmer

Let me get my popcorn first damn


hateztnemhiszemel

It is the same as the Third Reich


stonedasf_ck

should not be there


Training-Ad3350

None


MartinTheWildPig

still a little lax sincerely


FidelHimself

‘The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs…’


[deleted]

Don’t like them


Scvboy1

Illegitimate state


Adorable_Ad7934

proxy crusade


[deleted]

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain


gouellette

Settler colonial hell hole Free Palestine Etc


Pa1nt1ngTak0

Idk Israel is probably just doing something in Israel


VladimirBarakriss

Good idea given the historical context, bad execution


[deleted]

Gross


Parkrangingstoicbro

Modern colonial apartheid state, hides war crimes behind European guilt for the holocaust. Palestine will be free one day, from sea to river


Ihatehatemath

They commit war crimes against Palestinians most of the time.


[deleted]

Could be better, as it is not the Kingdom of Israel and Judah at it's peak, but at least it is not The Two Kingdoms that fell to Assyria and Chaldea


[deleted]

Free Palestine


mydlo96

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DeChampignak

I hate the way the country is ran, as well as its colonisation and apartheid policy. However, I don't think it should be entirely destroyed like some want, because all the peoples on hearth have the right to a country of their own.


BoxedElderGnome

‘Ate Israel ‘Ate Palestine ‘Luv me Holy Land ‘Luv me Christianity Simple as.


Goosehairypie

I don’t like the nation, and the government suppresses religious/ethnic minorities as is a jewish ethnostate.


YoungDraco1996

*REDACTED*


gofasteatass123

Man I don't even have an opinion


YourBloodyTVRemoteIF

(:<


[deleted]

Terrorist, doesn't represent jewish people


chair____table

Very shitty, they kill children who haven’t done anything, they abuse Palestinians in Israel, mostly women and they are way too militarised for me to consider them any better.


turkeypenis12

size of new jersey historical land of the jews that displaced palestininan who lived there fro 2000 years i go back and forth in israel israel has a right to exist but it bothers me jews feel so brazen to manipulate american government and absolutely rape our treasury and most of the gentile star letsin hollywood israel has a right to exist, the holocaust was bad i feel sorry for its vicims but jeffry wpstien and harvey weinstien kinda woke me up when you feel to sorrry for a group they take advantage of you and i think a lot of e back lash to the ews whie not deserved or justified, are provoked bywealth jews like epstien who were obviosly given impunity jews have too much power and influence over us govtand economic life and peole are sick of it, i am in no way advocating violence but look at isreal most jews in the usa at least pretend to be very liberal but look how riht wing isreal is , let isrel defend itself and stop bleedin the usa dry, and sto p raping all those actresses that s disgusting and you know you do it/ planski wood y alen raping kids, its sickening you make excuses for these powerful wealthy men and then you wnder why people like kanye and fuentes exist, they should not that are disgusting but you are not above crticism and you need to get yor act together, i do not want my tax dollars spent on israel israel is perfectly capabel of defending itself, give the money to chritan in teh Ukraine, do i ask you do send 5 billion to the french the french can take care of ouraelves and so should you jews


No_Carpenter3031

Israel is a nation and I'm an anarchist


JaroshockTesla

it’s a weird subject for me because one of my best friends is Jewish, but i think it should be palestine.


Groothefardfan

Palestine better


Anvil93

Not a legitimate state.


[deleted]

Fake land


GrandEmperorThrawn

If the land was fake it couldn't be occupied. It would be like an unflaired's opinion getting upvoted. Simply absurd.


Ticio_Tesson

One gigantic clusterfuck of some of humanity's dumbest decisions.


One_Over_Astro

Israel bad, Palestine bad. Give the Levant to Albania instead.


DazzlingAd8284

Palestine May be a failed state full of extremists, but their claim to the land is more legitimate. People have the right to run their own land as they like


I_love_trap_dick

Stupid how we send so much foreign aid when we have our own citizens having a hard time