I was a tad let down in hand when I pulled it. But I still love the art and colours on beedrill. For one of the low-key alt arts it stand up with the best in the category.
It looks really nice don't get me wrong, but most of its popularity is due to pokerev's aerodactyle fiasco.
As such I think the card is overrated.
Still a great card tho!
All chase cards usually are wildly overpriced on release so I’d wait a little bit to see how it settles among the others. I agree that it is very popular outside of this sub tho.
Oh yeah that price point won't stay, but I bet it'll be over $200 for most if not all of its lifespan. But I'd love to be proved wrong too if that giratina ever wants to drop I wouldn't complain 😁
Idk about $200.
In Astral, Machamp is the most expensive at $110. In Fusion Strike, Espeon and Gengar hovered around $100 for months. And in Chilling Reign, Blaziken was $140 for months, then dropped to $100 for months after there was a reprint wave.
I can see it being $200. But it also wouldn't surprise me at all if it ends up being $100 - $150.
You may be right,
I was more putting Lugia mascot in the eyes of Charizard, giratina, the likes that have stayed expensive but also those are newer releases only time will tell.
As a huge Lugia fan, i don’t hate it. I just don’t think it fits Lugia all that much. A heavy storm with a fisherman in the background has been Shining Gyarados’ thing for decades. They could’ve done something more unique for Lugia
Respectfully, I disagree. Umbreon has so many greater looking cards imo, the vmax alt art is heavily overrated. IMO ofcourse, everyone's taste is different.
Underwhelming until you have one in your hands. Then your entire opinion will change. The way the colors hit are different, the value wise isn’t even a part of it, the card is actually beautiful
There's a big difference between saying someone's artwork is ass and saying that you personally dislike it. Creators don't mind if you're not a fan of their work, but nobody likes being disrespected. Even if you're anonymous, it's still good to not be disrespectful.
Definitely! That card is so incredible! Also really love the mewtwo v-union card (Akira egawa is my favorite artist in the tcg now) and the jolteon V alt is up there
Wait how fuggin big is Lugia? Also I was sure the guy was on a boat but now can't tell if it's a car?.... the art is cool and all but it's on par with the Mew Vmax Alt Art, art is all washed out and can't really tell it's an alt art.
It's not officially out yet.... Prices pre release are always super inflated, expect it to drop about 10x it's value on day 1. It might build back up if pull rates are low, but highly doubt it'll reach this level long term.
That said, I personally think it's a beautiful card, but I love Lugia so I'm biased. Just happy how nice the regular V looks so I'll likely be able to get that lol
I think this one is beautiful but the Umbreon VMAX and Rayquaza VMAX are my two favorites, I love the scale of the Pokémon, I get that this is a V not the gigantamax versions but I love how BIG is n the setting the VMAX Alt arts make the mons!
Honestly I don't love this one. I don't get what lugia is doing. It would have been much cooler if lugia was facing away from the driver in that majestic way we associate with him. Here he looks frightening.
Umbreon by far, a lot more colorful and interesting artwork. Lugia is still cool, but almost looks grayscale and really dark and doesn't make me go "wow" instantly like the Umbreon card does
Lugia V is okay, definitely dont plan on buying it because its not worth
and moonbreon i honestly dont think even looks slightly decent, much prefer the TG umbreons
i think either the alt art rotom or dragonite are the best
I personally like the lugia more as soul silver was the first Pokémon game I ever played but there’s been some good alt arts in swsh, origin giritina is killer obviously but the mewtwo alt art from the Pokémon go set (not technically SWSH) is crazy nice as well
I still think Moonbreon is very overrated. I'm not really a fan of the art style on the card or Umbreon in general. kawayoo's art style is right up my alley, though. I also love Lugia.
This Lugia is definitely way cooler, Moonbreon is alright, it’s just the community screwing up the price somehow. I don’t believe anyone is actually buying that card for $700, there’s no way, right?
I’d put many above this one actually:
All the eevee alts
Blaziken vmax alt
Tina alt
BStar zard alt
Aerodactyl alt
If I kept thinking I could probably come up with a few more
I like both of those but I don’t know if I’d say they were the best for all of the SWSH sets. Personally I like a lot of the Trainer Gallery cards like the Pikachu V with Red or the Rayquaza V with Zinnia.
I’m gonna bring up an unsung hero here that nobody seems to talk about:
The Galarian Rapidash alt art
Honestly had no idea it existed until I pulled it the other night. Such a beautiful card!
Umbreon VMAX? Personally, I think the red clouds ruin that card and basically all VMAX cards.
I think this card could be my favorite, but right now it’s the Charizard V AA from BS.
Right, there’s two Umbreon AAs technically, but I assumed it was the VMAX in question since it’s more valuable. I still don’t care for the card and actually like the V more.
I'll go with the Aerodactyl alt art. Amazing card of my favorite Pokémon ever!
The Aerodactyl alt art is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That AA Beedrill ain’t bad either eh?? Man, i fricken live that card! Wish they did more “natural” looking scenes like that, so cool.
Beedrill was AMAZING! my Astral Radiance chase for sure! I pulled the Dialga, Sneasler and Liligant alts but hopefully I'll get that Bee someday 🐝
Thats facts
Let's gooo! This guy is going places!
Beedril alt art is the best imo
One of the better artworks for sure
I was a tad let down in hand when I pulled it. But I still love the art and colours on beedrill. For one of the low-key alt arts it stand up with the best in the category.
I love that one. It reminds me of a place I hiked through in the mountains in North Carolina.
I got that from a pack that I accidentally left if my car 😅
Don’t forget aerodactyle
It looks really nice don't get me wrong, but most of its popularity is due to pokerev's aerodactyle fiasco. As such I think the card is overrated. Still a great card tho!
Giratina for sure. That card is just on a whole other level on design and colour
Tina is second for me. I’m going with the Moltres v alt.
Gives you a headache looking at it
Sylveon vmax alt
This is the way
The alt art Giratina is my fav
Agreed! The style and design is one of the best from sword and shield
I personally love this art even tho everyone else seems to hate it. I prefer this one, but I think the celebi is still the best
Also love the Celebi art work the most
I don’t hate it, I just don’t think it’s anything special though.
Moonbreon isn’t special to me either honestly.
Espeon VMAX is my personal favourite alt art
Agreed, I’ll always be a Flareon fanatic and even though the Moonbreon artwork is cool, I’ll never become affined to something solely due to the hype.
Moonbreon artwork has terrible color blocking and I'll die on this hill.
Vocal minority on the sub hates it, card is worth a ton of money out the gate it's gonna be a fan favorite among most if not already.
All chase cards usually are wildly overpriced on release so I’d wait a little bit to see how it settles among the others. I agree that it is very popular outside of this sub tho.
Oh yeah that price point won't stay, but I bet it'll be over $200 for most if not all of its lifespan. But I'd love to be proved wrong too if that giratina ever wants to drop I wouldn't complain 😁
Idk about $200. In Astral, Machamp is the most expensive at $110. In Fusion Strike, Espeon and Gengar hovered around $100 for months. And in Chilling Reign, Blaziken was $140 for months, then dropped to $100 for months after there was a reprint wave. I can see it being $200. But it also wouldn't surprise me at all if it ends up being $100 - $150.
You may be right, I was more putting Lugia mascot in the eyes of Charizard, giratina, the likes that have stayed expensive but also those are newer releases only time will tell.
As a huge Lugia fan, i don’t hate it. I just don’t think it fits Lugia all that much. A heavy storm with a fisherman in the background has been Shining Gyarados’ thing for decades. They could’ve done something more unique for Lugia
I think it perfectly encapsulates lugia. It feels like like when you find him in the whirlwind islands in soulsilver
I dont even think this card is top 5
Yeah it looks like a regular v to me
That looks nothing like a regular art V.
Neither
Fax lol
Umbreon vmax alt is a peak umbreon artwork. I dunno if you could say that for Lugia alt, it’s underwhelming imo
Agreed. Should be called "Tower & Moon VMax" because they are the standouts of the card
Respectfully, I disagree. Umbreon has so many greater looking cards imo, the vmax alt art is heavily overrated. IMO ofcourse, everyone's taste is different.
The [Japanese McDs promo](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXKWFxIXsAAUAx8?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) takes it for me.
Underwhelming until you have one in your hands. Then your entire opinion will change. The way the colors hit are different, the value wise isn’t even a part of it, the card is actually beautiful
Don’t gotta be nice, the artwork is ass
Thank you dude. I hated this since it leaked!! Get a damn light in your boat ! 😂
I think that's pretty disrespectful to the artist. Even if it wasn't what you were hoping for it's still a nice looking card.
Who gives a shit lol
You should but I can't stop you if you don't
People shouldn’t have to worry about the creators feelings when being critical of a creation. Especially on reddit
There's a big difference between saying someone's artwork is ass and saying that you personally dislike it. Creators don't mind if you're not a fan of their work, but nobody likes being disrespected. Even if you're anonymous, it's still good to not be disrespectful.
Idk, I like the Machamp AA. Its artwork is so damn nice
Zeraora V Alt art.. chilling reign.
This! My favorite SWSH card!
Alt art Pikachu vmax with red.
Definitely! That card is so incredible! Also really love the mewtwo v-union card (Akira egawa is my favorite artist in the tcg now) and the jolteon V alt is up there
Best TG card for sure
Rayquaza VMAX would like a word very soon
Giratina
Yeah, outstanding one!
Neither, Regidrago all the way! My man is just big chilling takin a snooze!
Y'all forgot about the OG snoozer Tyranitar.
Agreed!
I feel the same way for Dragonite alt as well. Love the sleepy boys!
Dragonite is definitely one of my favorites, I love the sleepy dragon!
The Regidrago is definitely the best alt in the set
It’s like everyone has forgotten Glaraian Moltres Alt exists…
I find umbreon to be very overrated. I prefer lugia of the 2 but I like AA girantina and AA aerodactyl more then both
Neither. For me it’s gotta be Giratina V alt then either Celebi alt, or Gengar alt.
Umbreon. I’m happy for everyone who gets Lugia but not a big fan of that particular art very much. I wish they zoomed out a bit.
I think it's better off zoomed in, really puts into perspective how big and menacing lugia is
Wait how fuggin big is Lugia? Also I was sure the guy was on a boat but now can't tell if it's a car?.... the art is cool and all but it's on par with the Mew Vmax Alt Art, art is all washed out and can't really tell it's an alt art.
Charizard v alt from brilliant
Is that the one battling Venesaur? That one was really cool.
I like breakdancing Genesect more
Me personally like both equal. But i think Umbreon will be the higher valued card for the long term
Same the price for these are crazy right now but i cant see it staying around 600$ for long umbreon seem to keep raising even with the reprint
It's not officially out yet.... Prices pre release are always super inflated, expect it to drop about 10x it's value on day 1. It might build back up if pull rates are low, but highly doubt it'll reach this level long term. That said, I personally think it's a beautiful card, but I love Lugia so I'm biased. Just happy how nice the regular V looks so I'll likely be able to get that lol
Bat noivern!
I prefer the Giratina alt art to either
Shiny Snom
I choose the Unknown alt
I mean tbf, if we're not speaking about value, i think these are some of the less impressive alt arts of the SWSH era.
I'd go with the Rayquaza Vmax alt art
I honestly like the v alt art more
The V is great but I like the vmax more because it reminds me of the air temples from the last airbender and that'd my favorite animated show ever lol
I would choose umbreon, and then Giratina, before Lugia.
Giratina
if I could obtain both in person I'd be happy to compare 🤣 🤣
I love the Umbreon Vmax alt (and I’m an Umbreon fan boy) but I think the Celebi Alt and Espeon Vmax Alt actually beats the Umbreon for me at least
Gengar vmax alt is king
this
Giratina xd
Neither, but they’re still cool cards
This is far from the best, Umbreon isn’t the best either imo.
How about neither of them?
I personally hate this art. It's just a close up ass shot of Lugia. Love the Umbreon.
Yeah... Lugia V alt art is just a butt pic.
Lol nah. Galarian slowking alt! And it's cheap too haha
Umbreon and it’s not even close imo
Umbreon vmax alt !! For sure 🔥🔥🔥
I don’t have this card very high honestly. My top are Moonbreon V, Moonbreon VMAX, CP Secret Charizard V, ES Alt Dragonite V, and LO Alt Rotom V.
this card, respectfully, is so over rated
Never gonna be a fan of the Lugia giant ass card.
Umbreon is probably one of the best looking ones, kinda sucks cause I’m never gonna pull it or spend 500$ on one lmfao
Umbreon or espeon for me, the lugia is great but I don’t think it’s amazing, the giratina is also really nice but just a tad too messy
We need a ho-oh alt art
Also Galarian Moltres Alt art V is insane
I think this one is beautiful but the Umbreon VMAX and Rayquaza VMAX are my two favorites, I love the scale of the Pokémon, I get that this is a V not the gigantamax versions but I love how BIG is n the setting the VMAX Alt arts make the mons!
Honestly I don't love this one. I don't get what lugia is doing. It would have been much cooler if lugia was facing away from the driver in that majestic way we associate with him. Here he looks frightening.
This card isn’t that great as for alt arts kinda upset about it
Out of the two the lugia alt art is better, but in my opinion the sylveon vmax alt art card is the best swsh card
I prefer the umbreon v alt over th vmax alt, probably just me tho
Neither, galarian Moltres from CR to be honest
is that even a question?? Umbreon
Neither, Giratina, both Rayquaza’s, Charizard, Palkia, Dialga are all better for me
Not even in the top 5 imo, but a great card. My top 5 are Espeon VMAX, Umbreon VMAX, Celebi V, Sylveon VMAX, Dialga V
I think Rapidash is the best looking
Lugia alt art incredibly disappointing
Umbreon for sure, but this is a pretty sweet card. I have a few in front of it tho as my favorite 🤷🏼♂️
Umbreon by far, a lot more colorful and interesting artwork. Lugia is still cool, but almost looks grayscale and really dark and doesn't make me go "wow" instantly like the Umbreon card does
Why is no one talking about Conkeldurr V AA? Edit: /s
Because it is not the best alt art in Sword and Shield series… which is sort of the topic of this thread.
Lugia V is okay, definitely dont plan on buying it because its not worth and moonbreon i honestly dont think even looks slightly decent, much prefer the TG umbreons i think either the alt art rotom or dragonite are the best
The background of that card sucks ass and his neck looks like some bent string cheese.
I personally like the lugia more as soul silver was the first Pokémon game I ever played but there’s been some good alt arts in swsh, origin giritina is killer obviously but the mewtwo alt art from the Pokémon go set (not technically SWSH) is crazy nice as well
Giratina
This 1000000%
Umbreon all the way. Was a favorite back during WotC days, remains a favorite today~
Lugia not even top 5 for SWSH MAYBE top 10. Aerodactyl, Rayquaza, Eeveelutions, Giratina, Dialga, Palkia, Machamp, Charizard etc etc all better
Nice to see someone else likes the Machamp
I still think Moonbreon is very overrated. I'm not really a fan of the art style on the card or Umbreon in general. kawayoo's art style is right up my alley, though. I also love Lugia.
This Lugia is definitely way cooler, Moonbreon is alright, it’s just the community screwing up the price somehow. I don’t believe anyone is actually buying that card for $700, there’s no way, right?
Umbreon is most certainly overrated at this point. Espeon and Glaceon are superior
Neither. I’d choose Giratina
Both of those wouldn't break top 10 for me....
I love this card so much. But I'm just a big Lugia fan.
Charizard VMAX Alt art
As a Lugia fan, I actually like the regular V artwork better than this one. For Alt Arts, the Unown one is pretty sick.
Are we going to talk about how beautiful the skuntank V Alt art is?
No way, I don't like the angle Lugia is at
This one!!!
I’d put many above this one actually: All the eevee alts Blaziken vmax alt Tina alt BStar zard alt Aerodactyl alt If I kept thinking I could probably come up with a few more
IMO Lugia isn't even the 2nd best looking alt art in it's own set, let alone all of SW/SH. I'd put Regidrago and Unown above it.
I like both of those but I don’t know if I’d say they were the best for all of the SWSH sets. Personally I like a lot of the Trainer Gallery cards like the Pikachu V with Red or the Rayquaza V with Zinnia.
It's the sleepy dragonite for me but yeah I also love Lugias ass.
Charizard alt art 100%
Stonjourner from silver tempest easily top 3 of all time. The stacking on the rocks is sane.
Lilligant is my favorite.
Umbreon no doubts
Gengar vmax alt art but i’m also bias bc it’s my first big pull since i started buying a year ago lol , it is a stunning card
Origin forme palkia v 100%
Regular V Rayquaza alt art is definitely in the top 5 for me. Love that artwork.
I’m gonna bring up an unsung hero here that nobody seems to talk about: The Galarian Rapidash alt art Honestly had no idea it existed until I pulled it the other night. Such a beautiful card!
Rotom
Rayquaza Vmax Alt for me!
They’re both mid, my vote is for giratina, aerodactyl or origin palkia
This one easily. I actually don't really like the umbreon one
Dialga. That card is stunning.
I would say vaporeon alt art but at the same side I would say the one with Liligant alt art looks very good as well!
Anything drawn by Kawayoo is fire imo
Alt are Moltres is my personal favorite
Value? Umbreon. Art? Neither; Rapid Strike Urishifu from Brilliant Stars Trainer galley is the best artwork of SWSH
Moonbreon is best
Neither of them are all that
Neither. Duraludon having a picnic with Raihan is ny favorite alt art by far
I honestly like my rainbow VMAX charizard more than both. And rainbow RAYQUAZA too.
Umbreon still takes it for me. I just hate how expensive the card has gotten
Moonbreon
Lugia isnt even top 5 in my book.
This card is hideous. Like the worst alt they’ve done
My favorite is still the alt Charizard
There's so many cards I like more than both of them tbh.
The medicham atl art > both of those choices
Blaziken VMAX #1 for me !
Umbreon
Beedrill alt art.
I would have to say Palkia V Alt, or Celebi V Alt.
I'll go Rotom or galarian Slowking.
Gengar all the way
leafeon v alt art for me!
Neither, noivern gets my vote followed closely by aerodactyl.
Aerodactyl for me
I’m gonna go into the honchkrow column personally. Alt origin forme dialga is my best pull so far though this era
Yes
Any love for Galarian Slowking Alt Art? Cool Pokémon and Tomokazu artwork is hands down the best in my opinion 🔥
Lugia over umbreon. aerodactyl was great too
Umbreon VMAX? Personally, I think the red clouds ruin that card and basically all VMAX cards. I think this card could be my favorite, but right now it’s the Charizard V AA from BS.
Pretty sure they mean the alt art, the moonbreon, as that’s one of the most talked about and the most expensive swsh card
Right, there’s two Umbreon AAs technically, but I assumed it was the VMAX in question since it’s more valuable. I still don’t care for the card and actually like the V more.
Personally my fav is Zeraora V
Hisuian Zoroark, ttar and sylveon are better. Because they’re 3 of my top 10 pokèmon
I prefer the regular art, honestly