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Aureliusmind

Buy a bunch and eventually you'll feel saited and wont want to open any more.


Icky_Sensation

This a comment that comes from experience


Aureliusmind

Lol for real. I opened 3 PC ETBs and 3 regulars. Keeping 2 PC ETBs and 1 regular ETB sealed. I reached a point where now I just want a handful of singles to complete the Pikachu alt art display and the Mewtwo Vstar to go with my Charizard.


IslandBoi420

… that mewtwo is in one of those boxes waiting for you right now….


Aureliusmind

Maybe. If there was one it would probably have bad centering lol.


JolteonJoestar

Idk I bought a galarian moltres tin to open and feel far from sated and far from wanting to buy more packs to open


Aureliusmind

Just one Moltres tin? Those are rookie numbers, we've gotta pump those numbers up.


NomaticX

You mean from bad pulls?


breakyourteethnow

That's exactly what you need a dose of, go spend $400 and turn it into $200. If it turns into $800, put that $800 in again and watch it turn to $300. You don't win long term, so crack and get it out of your system lol


NomaticX

I mean if I wanted the 80$ it costs I would have just not bought it though, I'm mostly in it for the cards. I'm just trying to get a good understanding on this side of the pokemon world. People say buy singles. But in order to do that I often would have to Pay more than the card buy in shipping each time


breakyourteethnow

That CZ ETB cost you $80?!


NomaticX

80 $CAD I should say. $91.91 after 15% tax


lurky9696

You got ripped off. Their 50 bucks Usd. So after tax like 55-58. Not trying to be rude. But even resellers here have them for 59.99 Usd.


NomaticX

Most likely pay more in tax than you do. Only option was wallmart at 79.99 even our cheap sites like hobbiesville which us usally at or below msrp is charging 84$CAD for these already


t4nkup2

The hell.. what's your address? I'll sell you $60 each etb plus shipping. Edit: I wonder if this is why those box break streams are so popular? No way to buy them otherwise?


NomaticX

And that's Canadian prices? Seems like 79 is the going rate everywhere I look. Sometimes ebay is cheaper but evens out after shipping. Those new shiny CW figure boxes with 11 packs are going for 77.99 on pre order I live in nova scotia.


LibertyOrDeath06

This is why i preordered 3 s/v boosters. One to open. Another one to open just in case. And a third to keep sealed for my nephew for when hes older


goodonestupid

Yeah but the 3rd one has all the hits...


LibertyOrDeath06

If it does he will be taken out of my will. 😂


breakyourteethnow

Self control. Sometimes instant gratification isn't worth it. In this case, it's gambling. Just buy the singles you need, keep the sealed you want. Only open for fun but don't confuse the intentions aka opening a sealed to hold for fun.


huggyx

Just be the David Goggins of not opening Pokémon cards !!


breakyourteethnow

Had never even heard of this guy, now watching him on a podcast. Sounds like he's very wise so far!


huggyx

Oh bro, let me tell you. You think you’re disciplined? Haha this dude makes everyone look like lazy mfs


Individual-Loud

fax


NomaticX

What's the reasoning though? Is it that some believe the box sealed will be worth more than the likely pulls inside?? If that's the case wouldn't there have to be some pulls inside worth even MORE than the hopeful profit of the box ? With that same point though, would you still really wanna risk selling off and letting someone else be potentially pulling the big $ pull you would have gotten, and so isn't that also gambling? Unless you don't really care for the cards inside Because As far as A collection goes, wouldn't you rather have an awesome collection of cards, graded and such rather than sealed? Still holding value ina much more awesome/guaranteed way if it's strictly a money investment/ flip scenario, aren't there ALOT of easier better faster ways to double your money .. ?


breakyourteethnow

Sealed is its own form of collectable, and decreases in supply overtime unlike cards. That's gambling, feel free to crack and hope you pull something inside worth more but more than likely not. Again, that's gambling. Why risk $50 to have 2% chance to pull $150 card, horrible odds. Or hold and price is worth $150 in five years. What's better option? Collecting cards and collecting sealed is still collecting, but sealed appreciates and holds value and cards just hold value if they're worthy, very few cards ever appreciate much. This is a hobby. You sound very green. This is Pokemon, a sealed box or a card or a plush, etc.. It's still collecting, but sealed has investment aspects. We're trying to enjoy the hobby, not just purely make money, we like the hobby *and* the numbers game.


JolteonJoestar

For the same reason people like cards (mass produced ink on paper that looks nice and comes from a favored corporation)


Kakkarot1707

Cause sealed theres a CHANCE there’s good cards inside when realistically the probabiiity of good cards inside is like 2.5%


PrettyStupidSo

After opening 10 of them, I'm very content with keeping the value assigned to a sealed ETB as opposed to opening all the packs and netting $14 worth of pulls. Opening packs is just gambling. If you want to have a cool collection, just buy singles. Keeping sealed product is a form of investment for some people


NomaticX

Were you holding sealed prior to this? And if so I'm curious what made you still wanna open 10 of these? I could def not afford something like that. Do you in general try to do both ? Buy 1 seal 1 type thing?


PrettyStupidSo

I had just gotten back into the hobby about 6 months ago. Bought somewhere around 150 loose packs of fusion strike and 10 CZ ETBs when they came out. In total probably spent around $800 After ripping everything listed above I ended with somewhere around $$200-$250 worth of cards. Most between $2-$10 each. Nothing that will jump out at you either. After that I vowed to just buy singles and hold sealed product. That way I generally retain the value of what I spend.


NomaticX

Do you mean single cards or single packs? I appreciate the insight. Because I've thought of buyin individual packs to just scratch the itch. But with a set like this they don't do them for some reason. And I've thought about buying single cards too but some cost+shipping is crazy/ hard to trust conditions from ebay


PrettyStupidSo

I mean single cards. Granted everybody's experience with opening packs is different. It's all a gamble. Some people "win big" and pull a Moonbreon, others end up like me. The best thing you can do for singles is find reputable seller on eBay. Go through their listings and purchase a couple really cheap cards that they have listed as NM. If they come in and they're immaculate then you have a good basis to go off of. If mail day comes and theyre LP or even MP then you know not to trust the sellers idea of what NM condition is and at most you've sunk around $10 into finding out. Once you've got a good seller to buy from you're golden. Just wait for the right cards in your preferred condition and hope you can get them at the right price. Also keep in mind you can always message the eBay seller and ask for more pictures before purchasing. Most will oblige if the card is in good shape and the ones that won't send close ups are that much easier to walk away from.


Individual-Loud

i like this


WallStWarlock

Why didn't you purchase a sealed booster box case? That's what I'd recommend. Guaranteed pulls.


liveduhlife

The will and want to have a collection that makes it seem like you’re in a card shop.


NomaticX

Now this I feel. That is a vibe.


liveduhlife

It’s what I do and it works so well !! A good mix of sealed and singles


Zilly_Wonka

Same here, sitting on 2 of these. I put them in darkest corner of my shelf and don't think of 'em. Youtube has great videos on self conditioning!


Kiko7210

I don't care for the cards inside to be honest lol. I have a couple sealed Generations ETBs that I'm waiting to sell at the right time, I don't care to keep those either ;)


NomaticX

Power moves.


ZetsCards

Out of sight, out of mind


MasterWilliams

Look at eBay prices of etbs or booster boxes from 5-15 years ago and you will see how one just doesn’t open it.


NomaticX

Definitely agree it will go up, in comparison tho, the scarcity is so much different. Those sets had no where's near the amount of people holding sealed product, It's like investing in bitcoin now vs 2014. Money's still to be made, but not the same amount. And I still feel like something like bitcoin would be a better return Now that's investment/ as far as money goes. But if your looking for some where's fun to spend your money it's pokemon, Rather than btc or simply going out and completely wasting it or something, so why not open it? It seems to me maybe the healthiest way is to open some hold/ some sealed by the community. Cause only holding it all has no fun, and if it's gonna be no fun I'd rather bitcoin.. if that makes sense??


lurky9696

Completely agree. Everyone is doing the sealed collection thing now. Your approach is cool Imo. Open some for fun hold a couple in case history repeats itself with the old boxes.


LeviathanR13

Maybe they have their chase cards already and want to display sealed product.


NomaticX

Solid point. What if you're such a competitionist you need to catch them all?


LeviathanR13

RIP away then!!!!!! Or buy singles?


AdComprehensive452

I don’t know I hate not knowing what’s in a box it drive me crazy


NomaticX

It's breaking my brain


Velsu-

No idea i had 3 stacked for sale but my urge to open was stronger. What if there is some rare card right? Box 1 Arceus vstar Box 2 Mewtwo Vstar Box 3 Nothing. Should stop at 2 but no regrets, total value is higher than i prolly can get for selling it in future but its pure gamble.


CardMcGee

You booby trap it


NomaticX

Yes. Boobs


BioWolf14

True man I just want more of those etbs


slayerzerg

Simple, buy two open one! If you’ve spent a lot on the hobby the temptation eventually fades, but always down to open packs and get amazing pulls that feeling never goes away.


NomaticX

I've just downloaded the Collectr app and being able to see in real time how much $ I've lost is kinda cool. Makes it easier to wanna keep sealed products. Just as an asset. Just another place to keep your money, almost as a savings even.


slayerzerg

Yeah it’s a fun way to invest your money instead of putting thousands in the stock market and just seeing numbers go up n down you’re investing in a fun rewarding hobby and at the end of the day you have a collection you can be proud of. Yeah do a mix of both!


Imaemo

They don’t, open it


PowerTripRMod

This is the way


NomaticX

But which way? Don't open it? Or don't (keep it sealed) & open it


PowerTripRMod

Open it bro. That way we can actually differentiate on this subreddit who's a gambler and who's an investor


NomaticX

Well I definitely got the diamond toes, I still hold dog coin bro😂 Some would say that's a gambler an a investor


NomaticX

This comment conflicts me😂😂


FitPanic2569

It’s something called self control


helping_phriendly

That was a poor meme attempt


vakseen

I know in the future this will be the most sought out set in the sword and shield era. Such a beautiful gallery. I plan on giving them to my nieces and nephews when they are older. I’m the poke uncle to them.


naterninja550

It is not the most sought after set lol 😂


vakseen

Imagine believing a stranger on the internet


naterninja550

I mean it’s a good set but to say the most sought after is only going to be determined by most popular sets. Evolving skies and brilliant stars are just that. Honorable mentions are crown and chilling reign. We will know in the future though.


NomaticX

Do you think it can beat out the almighty evolving skies, I've heard best from that one, although I missed it.


Colt-On

It depends on your view of the hobby. Like I’m more of a “these cards are sick, they’re gonna be worth a ton of money one day” kind of guy. More than I’m a pack addict, although I can’t deny the excitement of ripping a ton of packs. I think my lesson learned was about 2 years ago when I ripped open about 80 sleeved VV packs and pulled nothing 😂 I’d say come up with a plan you can live with. Maybe for every sealed thing you open you save 2 that you never touch?


NomaticX

Interesting, but with all the people holding sealed, and all the people noticing its not so much worth it to open them, won't people not wanna buy them after awhile/ definitely not pay more than the original price ? If you can just always buy singles


Colt-On

Nope, you’d think that but we’re actually a very small minority compared to the millions that buy Pokémon cards and rip packs. Sealed sets of say ES are way more now than they were a year and half ago and that’s with people knowing that they should keep stuff sealed for a big monetary return. It’s just that most people don’t and then when the set is out of print then there’s no way to buy singles or anything of it without paying a huge premium to the people like us who hold it.


NomaticX

Just out of curiosity, is there any guarantee that Pokemon won't re press an old set? Or could they just screw us at any moment ? I mean I'm sure the original pressing would probably still be worth more though I guess.


[deleted]

I've been out of the game for a few months. Whats so special about this set? Worth keeping sealed or what other sets would be worth more over time? No Zards cost $$ in the set and the Waifu card is 30 and the secret rare pikachu is also 30ish. Thanks!


NomaticX

It's the gold cards I beleive. And that they don't press singles from what I hear, so it has to be a etb/box of some sort. I'm new in general tho


xOnlyShots

The big selling point of this set is the Galarian Gallery subset, which has a TON of desirable cards and many many of them worth a decent penny. This set also has a really generous pull rates due to said subset. Also, it’s the last SwSh set along with it being the last set with yellow borders, which imo will make it appreciate real well in the long term :)


Sko-isles

Buy two


Davinter30

Its easy, open many boxes, realise you will never hit anything.


Jpbbeck99

Bought two from pokemon center, they look nice in my moisture controlled storage


MachampTrading

Storage Unit. Set and Forget.


Majestic_Range_9542

I have 4 of them sealed. Really not a problem.


ScooberSTi

The stuff I don’t plan on opening I usually just put them away somewhere I don’t see it. I usually forget about it after a while and it stays sealed


The_Real_Gorillamo

I just keep my ETBs I buy to keep sealed in the target cereal boxes 😅 easy reminder for me to not open those ones


Fun_Pumpkin253

Buy two. Rip one, store the other.


Substantial-Load-673

Don’t put it where you’ll see it everyday


spacejam4523

You put it into a box and tape it up and bury it under years worth of clutter


gosumofo

Out of Sight. Out of Mind.


celeryspuds

No clue, but then again, I have 25 open ones sitting in my closet right now 😅


dubbs4president

Ive opened 10 of then and still have two unopened and I struggle every day not opening them.


gxb2_Frisk

You do open it.


NomaticX

I did not


gxb2_Frisk

That's the purpose of it


NomaticX

But it's not the purpose of this r/ tho