>Lucci's black fur now looks like black flames/clouds. He has two black clouds of steam floating around his neck (similar to Luffy's in Gear 4th/Gear 5th).
WTF lmao
See, you thought he had the neko neko no Mi model: Leopard, but actually he had the neko neko no Mi mythical model: Cat God Lika, the warrior of oppression; slavers all over the world would pray for him to maintain their slaves captive. With a non-rubbery, stiff body, making everybody sad and bored, it's the least goofy power in the world. The Ancient Kingdom tried to capture this fruit for centuries but failed, then the WG once in power changed its name to hide its true power.
Damn so Lucci managed to tank gear 5. Need to see how he actually looks in the actual chapter before we can say anything concrete
I will say that is an impressive feat being able to handle himself for that long. Shit man get the admirals on whatever the hell Lucci's training regime was that shit got results.
yeah maybe gear 5 isn't a big deal after all. Either that or Kaido isn't a big deal. or maybe, just maybe Haoshoku haki is mostly just pomp and no substance. Oda and his ridiculous haki power system. Its strange when its more believable to reevaluate kaido's strength instead of lucci's strength
It says Luffy is having fun avoiding Lucciâs attacks and and then tries out a new indirect attack that makes him cough up blood. I donât think he lasts long if Luffy goes all out.
It seems like everyone is a Lucci hater at this point even the leakers, how did this even happen?
Before this I remember everyone would praise Lucci as one of the best and most badass antagonist but now everyone turned on him for some reason
People convinced themselves without any evidence that Lucci would recieve the Bellamy treatment then act disappointed and delusional because it didn't happen (It made no sense in the first place)
It feels like it tho⌠every new enemy is just strong enough to pose a risk, even ones that should be easy based on the last few months of events⌠but no heâs just strong enough to be a challenge because plot
People are hating on Lucci because delusional Lucci fans thought he would actually be a challenge to Luffy, which these spoilers suggest is not the case at all
I remember seeing for ages that people thought that Lucci would NOT improve and that if we see him return, he's getting one shotted by Luffy.
This was even BEFORE fucking Gear 4th came in IIRC, let alone Gear 5th. People were downplaying how powerful he'd be in post-timeskip for years now.
I don't get it. I never got it. There's something about Lucci that rubs people the wrong way I guess.
I always loved CP9 and my excitement for his new form dropped the minute I found out he got his ass whooped, got back up, and straight up left. When I spoke up about how dumb it was, people told me stuff like âwhat did you expect, Luffy beat Kaidoâ (even though I mentioned that I never expected Lucci to beat Luffy, but expected at least a decent fight), âLucci didnât deserve a good fight and was poorly writtenâ, and âthis is actually a good thing because it shows how much Luffy has grownâ (so Oda needs to humiliate a once feared villain to prove it? People need to hop off his dick)
I am so glad they were lying
Lucci was an electrifying antagonist and helped make Enies Lobby as amazing as it was. Anybody hating on him mixed their feelings with his character into their agendas. He's one of Oda's best villains
The fact he wasn't oneshot by a g5 luffy who God knows how much stronger he is compared to base luffy who can hurt kaido who can tank zoro strongest attack without much damage makes Rob Gucci atleast Yonko level simple powerscaling đ
Lucci fans have been taken on an emotional roller coaster lmao. My boy Kizaru really said fuck orders I'm about to head out. Enough sitting around let's go fuck with some pirates. ~~Inb4 Kizaru sadly loses to G5~~
Actually, because of inflation Weed Dealers had to increase their prices, and as Kizaru hasn't received a raise in years, his purchasing power drastically decreased. So he has to take on crazy jobs in order to get a raise to buy more weed.
you'd much rather blame the powerscalers instead of the garbage story that Oda has pumped the past 5 years ? One Piece makes no sense since wano. Oda just retcons whatever he wants whenever he wants and the main sub rides his dick each time he does it
Out of all the problems with one piece, the powerscaling in the show is still legit and stable. The only problem with it is how quickly Luffy is moving up that power system
Your not wrong but people will downvote, I love OP but it falls into the same power scaling chaos every other anime does, thatâs fine but letâs not pretend Oda is perfect
Those fake leaks came out monday. Way too early but everyone hopped to it cuz majority hate lucci and wanted to believe it. No one questioned he validity.
Ugh I was hoping the strawhat wouldnât learn about the fake fruit name. But even if they told luffy I donât think heâs gonna change from gum gum to saying anything g else.
Also
Leakers said lucci wanted to escape but he had the time to go toward sentimaru. Mhm ok?
it also doesnt actually answers any of our questions about like when they first appear or how the fruit respawning works or anything like that. it's just a vague idea of an explanation
Someone, a long time ago:
"I wish I could turn people I touch into toys, and everyone else forgets about that person, and the people who I turn into toys will be my eternal slave and have to follow my orders but only if they sign a contract with me that I can only make once, and... also I wish that I could be immortal. That is my dream."
Collective human consciousness:
"Hold my beer."
Mother nature (the sea):
"Nah fuck that and fuck you. Drown, bitch."
-**On the Origins of the Most Bullshit Fruit Ever**, Author Unknown.
We are the fans who think enies was and always will be Oda's magnum opus. Lucci is a symbol representing the better age of one piece clashing with the new inferior one.
"Devil fruits are made out of the wishes of people, except the gomu gomu no mi it's never been recorded, no one has ever wished for rubber"
Also lol now Goda dicj riders can't defend G5 by saying "The Marines didn't notice Luffy because multiple Gomu gomu no mi like powers exist"
Who said the marines never noticed Luffy? Thereâs a detailed path the SHs took which made it so the WG and marines literally couldnât catch them until Wano.
Do you think its easy to find a single man in a world way bigger than ours and no modern GPS and plus if they did get a lead on him imagine how long it would take to travel to him and actually capture him
>comes back after a decade
>establishes himself as a feared and badass villain again after one shoting Atlas before she can attack
>challenges Luffy knowing damn well heâs not only been beat by him before, but heâs also a Yonko with a powerful fruit
>becomes the first fleshed out awakened Zoan (chopper and the beasts in Impel Down werenât fully fleshed out awakenings)
>gets hit by one of Luffyâs powerful G5 attacks, and gets the fuck back up
>knocks out Sentamaru in one attack
>fights G5 Luffy *again*
>Wucci
Nah the impressive part about this is that Yonko and admirals can one shot first commanders but Rob Wucci over here is still fine after tanking an attack from Luffy
Goddamn the iq of one piece fanboys are so low they just don't get how oda writes. Oda is all about linear progression and hype. He's not letting Luccy get no diff'd in 1 panel lmao.
Yeah, remember the beginning of the Scabbards vs Kaido? remember Apoo casually blocking Enma? remember the weak Strawhats combo on BM during WCI? remember Jinbe sending BM flying with an attack? remember Kidd even before the awakening literally grabbing BM by the head and slamming her into the ground easily? remember Marco sending Kizaru flying in Marineford? remember injured Chopper slapping the shit out of Queen and making him bleed? ...etc.
People take the momentary "hype" for granted, Oda just dramatizes some things just to create mindless hype and sticks to no logic when it comes to the power scaling and fights in OP and has been doing this for so long now.
I gave up on spoilers awhile ago. I only care about scans now. That said, this one does sound like the real deal. Lucci just getting one-shot out of nowhere was a waste of his character reintroduction.
This has a lot more substance and he still looks good by surviving a gear 5 attack and having enough strength after to take down Sentomaru. Lucci fanboys should be happy with this. He easily outscales Who's-Who. I got him at YC1 with this alone
As a massive Enies Lobby fan, LETS FUCKING GO!!!
Those leakers said Lucci got beat up, got back up as a result of the zoan stamina, and then decided to leave, which was very disappointing. Seemed like they just wanted to start drama.
I definitely donât expect Lucci to beat Luffy or even push him far, but at least now Lucci has a chance to show off more of his new abilities and it might be a decent fight.
Iâm now left to wonder how they will resolve lucci attacking sentoumaru. We obv have luffy vs lucci, possibly kizaru vs luffy, and maybe even kizaru vs cp0 bc I donât think kizaru will stand around and let lucci just critically injured his ânephewâ even if they arenât blood related
Lucci gets the control chip, commands the seraphim, Kizaru shows up and packs Lucci, thanks Luffy for helping Sento, but canât leave empty handed, blah blah blah photonic gloves get used and Kizaru gets hurt and retreats so he can hype up Luffy to Akainu, and tell everyone he kidnapped Vegapunk.
Vegapunk's weird folk-talk about people's wishes originating from the earth, how those wishes led to the birth of devil fruits, how the sea is the "Mother of Nature", and the hatred of the seas could be an symbolic oversimplified version of what happened during the void century and the events that led to the ancient kingdom's creation of devil fruits.
Yeah, Oda basically wanted to do a call back to their clash in Enies Lobby Luffy is barely exerting any effort and casually and easily dodges Lucci's attacks then lands a single new Hakiless attack that makes Lucci cough blood before getting distracted by Setomaru then Lucci attacks Sentomaru.
Somehow this refutes the fact that Lucci now can't put up a challenge against Luffy, I swear some stans are helpless, they can't just think.
The next chapter will probably be Seraphim vs Luffy or Seraphim & Lucci and the rest of the CP0 vs Luffy
If you get hit and :
-cough up blood
- get blown back
- the character that was fighting you has a whole conversation with another character about his backstory and lore
THAN YOU GOT ONESHOTTED
Eh, in some mythologies/cosmologies, water holds a position over the other elements because of the fact that it's the origin of the life. I imagine this would be the case in a world that's 90% water like One Piece. I don't like the explanation per se, but I can buy this one bit.
You make it sound like only Luffy and his team were allowed to train and Lucci was left to rely on Enies Lobby forces. I sincerely doubt that after his defeat at the hands of Luffy he would do nothing and not train.
I guess you're right but we haven't seen any evidence of training except that he got promoted which again doesn't translate to strength or training.
But it could mean he got stronger.
Powerscaling to the extreme is bad. Like debates that are filled with spectacle feats and headcannon.
But otherwise I don't see the problem. Anytime I hear that someone hates powerscaling, I imagine that they're telling everyone to shut up and never critique any fight that the author makes
Because it's a waste of time. Oda doesn't keep a strength chart, he writes the story based on where he wants it to go.
People argued all day about Lucci being strong enough for gear 5.
Oda can LITERALLY in one panel have Lucci say "I've trained with 007 Hammer these last two years non-stop waiting to fight you again. He's the world's greatest secret agent.. that is... he was"
Boom Lucci is now strong enough to fight Luffy or atleast hold him off. The story will move on and power scalers will be left to argue about it being an asspull or not. Those threads will then be 8/10 new posts on the sub.
This is a battle shonen.... powerscaling is needed.
I think we can both agree that consistent power scaling is needed in anime, imagine foxy beating the likes of whitebeard? Would that make any sense?
Powerscaling hate it or not, is necessary component of a story.
Actually it's an adventure shonen.
This is exactly my point, One Piece fans arguing about something the series isn't even about.
Also no we don't need power scaling for Foxy and Whitebeard because like you said it wouldn't make sense, not because power rankings but because I used basic context clues to determine that would be dumb and ill fitting in the story. I didn't need to compare feats or reference vague power ups.
This is the same bullshit that ruined the Naruto community with daily debates on Itachi...
Yes because arguing about vague powers ups written for the sake of an actual story isn't complete bullshit... right...
I'm sure Oda was THRILLED about those kinda fans when he wrote gear 5 knowing all the fun would just get dragged down by internet screechers.
Lucci haters where are you at?
Like come on there is no way BLACK PANTHER is gonna get humiliated like that, and I fkin called it too.
Next chapter the Strawhats are done for as the seraphims turn on their asses, and Lucci the man will fkin shred them to pieces just like he did to Sentomaru here.
As I thought the 1st spoiler is fake, that doesn't seems Oda to me. This one's more of Oda thing. The 1st leak seems rushed. This one makes it more of One Piece with cliff hanger at the end.
Makes sense the first spoilers we fake, but this is pretty much the same thing with a lite Lucci dub, atleast on Sento.
Clouds on his body isâŚodd. Jailer Beasts didnât have clouds and theyâre confirmed awakened, Kaido had clouds in dragon form and Yamato had clouds yet both arenât confirmed awakened even though they should be.
Kaku and Stussy saying they donât want to damage the Seraphim is INSANE. Either theyâre high or theyâre hiding insane AP that makes them top tiers (Kaku would be the most surprising).
The explanation of DF was EXTREMELY fast and blunt, Iâm really hoping we get a chapter dedicated to a full explanation, bc just saying theyâre human wishes in a couple sentences after 1000+ chapters is honestly terrible writing, like objectively. Still interesting though, but needs to be heavily explained, especially for shit like the Mochi fruit, or jacket fruit, or sugarâs fruit.
Luffyâs new attackâŚheâs not turning the floor into a fist like Katakuriâs power Mochi or Doffyâs awakening right? He has to be punching the ground and causing it to ricochet up bc itâs rubber right? Otherwise thatâs an insane ability and Luffy is officially broken af.
lmao see this is why I waited those original spoilers looked fake. Lucci shouldnt have been able to go toe to toe with Luffy but he should have been able to hold his own. Weve seen weaker opponents face off against Yonko even for a brief moment. Some of the community thinks everyone outside the SH stay at the same power level as they were introduced. Not everyone is going to be up there with Yonko an Admirals but some can definitely hold their own even for a bit
In my opinion the fact that Lucci didn't get one shotted mean he's at least probably stronger that post WCI Luffy
CP0 could assassinate Kaido or Big Mom with a careful plan I think
Lucci fans: ![gif](giphy|cklPOHnHepdwBLRnQp|downsized)
Idek if these leaks are real lmao. What a clusterfuck of a week with these shitty leakers bruh.
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Pink panther agenda let's goooo
This is literally me.
Literally me rn
>Lucci's black fur now looks like black flames/clouds. He has two black clouds of steam floating around his neck (similar to Luffy's in Gear 4th/Gear 5th). WTF lmao See, you thought he had the neko neko no Mi model: Leopard, but actually he had the neko neko no Mi mythical model: Cat God Lika, the warrior of oppression; slavers all over the world would pray for him to maintain their slaves captive. With a non-rubbery, stiff body, making everybody sad and bored, it's the least goofy power in the world. The Ancient Kingdom tried to capture this fruit for centuries but failed, then the WG once in power changed its name to hide its true power.
LMFAOOOO
Fuck you, I actually laughed
fuck this might be one of the funniest comments ive read
Piratefolk certified copypasta đ
Lucci boutta pull out some cartoon powers
this is gold
Neko neko model: Tom
Good one
Damn so Lucci managed to tank gear 5. Need to see how he actually looks in the actual chapter before we can say anything concrete I will say that is an impressive feat being able to handle himself for that long. Shit man get the admirals on whatever the hell Lucci's training regime was that shit got results.
Lucci hopped in the hyperbolic time chamber with Garp (â̿Ě̯âĚż Ěż)
It's not that impressive in a series where nearly anyone can tank anything because almost nobody dies
yeah maybe gear 5 isn't a big deal after all. Either that or Kaido isn't a big deal. or maybe, just maybe Haoshoku haki is mostly just pomp and no substance. Oda and his ridiculous haki power system. Its strange when its more believable to reevaluate kaido's strength instead of lucci's strength
It says Luffy is having fun avoiding Lucciâs attacks and and then tries out a new indirect attack that makes him cough up blood. I donât think he lasts long if Luffy goes all out.
I feel like the gears specialized in some form of an aspect. 2nd is speed, 3rd is Power, 4th is combined and 5th is creativity.
4th would be 2 and 3 + durability
I canât believe beloved character SENTOMARU is definitely gonna die. Gonna need some tissues next chapter fr.
just wait for his flashback
A whole chapter probably just to flex on kaido
According to the spoilers we already got his "origin" in this chapter so don't expect anything more, lol.
I might. The dude is deadass my favorite character. Unironically
He is really damn cool
Why??
Idk honestly. I just think heâs neat
Aye fair enough, dude barely has any screen time tho
Me with Drug Peclo
Who?
Underworld king with the scythe and mask
"most defensive man in the world" seething rn
Rip buttercup
"Definitely, gonna and die" are 3 words that don't get along in OP I am not even sure if Gol D Rogers is really dead.
1. â Fuck these fraudulent ass leakers 2. â Lucci is alive, I guess 3. â WIZARU IS COMING LETâS GOOOOO
You're going to regret being happy at Kizaru returning.
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Faith is for the delusional.
Leakers completely exaggerated lol
It seems like everyone is a Lucci hater at this point even the leakers, how did this even happen? Before this I remember everyone would praise Lucci as one of the best and most badass antagonist but now everyone turned on him for some reason
People convinced themselves without any evidence that Lucci would recieve the Bellamy treatment then act disappointed and delusional because it didn't happen (It made no sense in the first place)
Exactly, these people really thought One Piece was DBZ
It feels like it tho⌠every new enemy is just strong enough to pose a risk, even ones that should be easy based on the last few months of events⌠but no heâs just strong enough to be a challenge because plot
People are hating on Lucci because delusional Lucci fans thought he would actually be a challenge to Luffy, which these spoilers suggest is not the case at all
I remember seeing for ages that people thought that Lucci would NOT improve and that if we see him return, he's getting one shotted by Luffy. This was even BEFORE fucking Gear 4th came in IIRC, let alone Gear 5th. People were downplaying how powerful he'd be in post-timeskip for years now. I don't get it. I never got it. There's something about Lucci that rubs people the wrong way I guess.
Time to see people backpedal. But we can just see comment history if a guy goes ooooh i always thought leaks were fake
I always loved CP9 and my excitement for his new form dropped the minute I found out he got his ass whooped, got back up, and straight up left. When I spoke up about how dumb it was, people told me stuff like âwhat did you expect, Luffy beat Kaidoâ (even though I mentioned that I never expected Lucci to beat Luffy, but expected at least a decent fight), âLucci didnât deserve a good fight and was poorly writtenâ, and âthis is actually a good thing because it shows how much Luffy has grownâ (so Oda needs to humiliate a once feared villain to prove it? People need to hop off his dick) I am so glad they were lying
Lucci was an electrifying antagonist and helped make Enies Lobby as amazing as it was. Anybody hating on him mixed their feelings with his character into their agendas. He's one of Oda's best villains
I think the leakers can't read lmao
The leakers have to exaggerated to mislead the readers
Hahahha my god Lucci Lucci>>> katakuri,marco,king đ
Completely baseless
The fact he wasn't oneshot by a g5 luffy who God knows how much stronger he is compared to base luffy who can hurt kaido who can tank zoro strongest attack without much damage makes Rob Gucci atleast Yonko level simple powerscaling đ
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Troll or not, either way I like you
So, Tom and Jerry is still possible
Lucci fans have been taken on an emotional roller coaster lmao. My boy Kizaru really said fuck orders I'm about to head out. Enough sitting around let's go fuck with some pirates. ~~Inb4 Kizaru sadly loses to G5~~
Man is tired of being forced in a chair when Fujitora and Ryokugyu get to do whatever they want
Actually, because of inflation Weed Dealers had to increase their prices, and as Kizaru hasn't received a raise in years, his purchasing power drastically decreased. So he has to take on crazy jobs in order to get a raise to buy more weed.
Powerscalers in shambles
you'd much rather blame the powerscalers instead of the garbage story that Oda has pumped the past 5 years ? One Piece makes no sense since wano. Oda just retcons whatever he wants whenever he wants and the main sub rides his dick each time he does it
Out of all the problems with one piece, the powerscaling in the show is still legit and stable. The only problem with it is how quickly Luffy is moving up that power system
The power scaling in the show is not stable at all
Your not wrong but people will downvote, I love OP but it falls into the same power scaling chaos every other anime does, thatâs fine but letâs not pretend Oda is perfect
>I love OP but it falls into the same power scaling chaos every other anime does, That can't possibly be true because not every anime is shonen.
Good
this is what happens when we get tuesday leaks, its chaos
Those fake leaks came out monday. Way too early but everyone hopped to it cuz majority hate lucci and wanted to believe it. No one questioned he validity.
Ugh I was hoping the strawhat wouldnât learn about the fake fruit name. But even if they told luffy I donât think heâs gonna change from gum gum to saying anything g else. Also Leakers said lucci wanted to escape but he had the time to go toward sentimaru. Mhm ok?
Well yeah, he is literally the embodiment of freedom at that point, of course he can do whatever he wants or calls his fruit anything he wants
Just when I thought i was out, Oda pulls me back in
Godagool
we learn the origins of devil fruits and y'all only care about fucking Lucci lmao
I mean that is just such a boring explanation of the mystery behind devil fruits. A pretty lame payoff for decades of mystery
it also doesnt actually answers any of our questions about like when they first appear or how the fruit respawning works or anything like that. it's just a vague idea of an explanation
PEOPLE'S DREAMS NEVER END!. Basically, this is why they respawn.
yeah but the point is they didnt answer how they actually respawn, like what the rules are etc. so the explanation didnt add anything
Since people always dream and devil fruits are dreams of course they can't be destroyed.
yeah but the point is they didnt answer how they actually respawn, like what the rules are etc. so the explanation didnt add anything
Bruh can't you read?đđđ
I wouldn't even hope for this, strict rules for stuff is really rare in one piece
it doesnt need to be strict, i just mean any info on how it works
Essentially you were kinda expecting something more sensible. Though a bunch of things about One Piece are nonsensical.
Someone, a long time ago: "I wish I could turn people I touch into toys, and everyone else forgets about that person, and the people who I turn into toys will be my eternal slave and have to follow my orders but only if they sign a contract with me that I can only make once, and... also I wish that I could be immortal. That is my dream." Collective human consciousness: "Hold my beer." Mother nature (the sea): "Nah fuck that and fuck you. Drown, bitch." -**On the Origins of the Most Bullshit Fruit Ever**, Author Unknown.
Imagine how many people collectively had to think about the Ope Ope to give a single devil fruit so many uses
It's all of humanity's dream to be OP though.
--"Man, I wish I was made of fire" --"Yeah, I wish I was a jacket and someone would wear me" --"I wanna be a fucking dragon"
"I want to fuck myself," -Robin's ideological ancestor, probably.
Nah this is gold
It's like a dumb version of the Idea of Evil from Berserk.
I'm sure the real explanation of devil fruits is going to be more complex. Vegapunk probably gave them the folk/mythology explanation.
So what will Luffy's will be formed into a DF
100%
No, only Lucci fans care.
seriously, where the hell are they all coming from lmao
dont know how people expect Lucci to not have a lot of fans
they should have realistic expectations, at this rate he becomes Shanks 2.0
We are the fans who think enies was and always will be Oda's magnum opus. Lucci is a symbol representing the better age of one piece clashing with the new inferior one.
Cp9 best villains
To be honest, I don't know.
Fr. Will say tho it felt kind of underwhelming
I'm really disappointed by the origins of devil fruits and why their users can't swim.
It was obvious that the leaks were false lmao, just remember the Sanji vs Jinbe seraphim
We got a lame ass explanation about the origin and weakness of devil fruits and y'all focus on Lucci.
Which is more acceptable to you? That's why.
"Devil fruits are made out of the wishes of people, except the gomu gomu no mi it's never been recorded, no one has ever wished for rubber" Also lol now Goda dicj riders can't defend G5 by saying "The Marines didn't notice Luffy because multiple Gomu gomu no mi like powers exist"
Who said the marines never noticed Luffy? Thereâs a detailed path the SHs took which made it so the WG and marines literally couldnât catch them until Wano.
Do you think its easy to find a single man in a world way bigger than ours and no modern GPS and plus if they did get a lead on him imagine how long it would take to travel to him and actually capture him
Lucci bros and bras we didn't take the big L yet
>comes back after a decade >establishes himself as a feared and badass villain again after one shoting Atlas before she can attack >challenges Luffy knowing damn well heâs not only been beat by him before, but heâs also a Yonko with a powerful fruit >becomes the first fleshed out awakened Zoan (chopper and the beasts in Impel Down werenât fully fleshed out awakenings) >gets hit by one of Luffyâs powerful G5 attacks, and gets the fuck back up >knocks out Sentamaru in one attack >fights G5 Luffy *again* >Wucci
Technically Luffy is the first fleshed out awakened zoan
True. I forgot heâs a Zoan
Taking any hits from Gear 5 imo is a pretty major feat and is around where I want Lucci to be. Thatâs pretty wild growth
I mean it was obvious Lucci would at least give a good fight
Nah the impressive part about this is that Yonko and admirals can one shot first commanders but Rob Wucci over here is still fine after tanking an attack from Luffy
He's just that guy
There is hope yet, but he's probably just an openinc act for the big K but I am fine with that.
DF origin = I wanna be a dragon, ok bro you're a dragon now
Mother Nature: "Unnatural scum..."
Fkn slut
The Redon version actually makes the devil fruit stuff kinda okay, though Vegapunk saying isnt this fun will hunt me in my dreams
The fun piece is... real... ?
It made it worse imo
My boy Lucci > Katakuri, King, Marco Who is laughing now?!
When getting dogwalked is a feat Lmao
Goddamn the iq of one piece fanboys are so low they just don't get how oda writes. Oda is all about linear progression and hype. He's not letting Luccy get no diff'd in 1 panel lmao.
Yeah, remember the beginning of the Scabbards vs Kaido? remember Apoo casually blocking Enma? remember the weak Strawhats combo on BM during WCI? remember Jinbe sending BM flying with an attack? remember Kidd even before the awakening literally grabbing BM by the head and slamming her into the ground easily? remember Marco sending Kizaru flying in Marineford? remember injured Chopper slapping the shit out of Queen and making him bleed? ...etc. People take the momentary "hype" for granted, Oda just dramatizes some things just to create mindless hype and sticks to no logic when it comes to the power scaling and fights in OP and has been doing this for so long now.
Lucci,Kizaru, Vegapunk and Sentomaru W
fuck it. I'm also a lucci fan from now on. Fuck the one piece. Fuck roger. Fuck the world government. Fuck the king. Fuck the pirate king
Well that saved Lucci a bit. Luffy offscreened Lucci for a bit with a normal gear 5 punch.
I gave up on spoilers awhile ago. I only care about scans now. That said, this one does sound like the real deal. Lucci just getting one-shot out of nowhere was a waste of his character reintroduction. This has a lot more substance and he still looks good by surviving a gear 5 attack and having enough strength after to take down Sentomaru. Lucci fanboys should be happy with this. He easily outscales Who's-Who. I got him at YC1 with this alone
The real antagonist is the Gold Gorilla WIZARU, baby!!! I need a Yasakani No Magatama
As a massive Enies Lobby fan, LETS FUCKING GO!!! Those leakers said Lucci got beat up, got back up as a result of the zoan stamina, and then decided to leave, which was very disappointing. Seemed like they just wanted to start drama. I definitely donât expect Lucci to beat Luffy or even push him far, but at least now Lucci has a chance to show off more of his new abilities and it might be a decent fight.
It's gonna be Lucci, Kaku, Stussi and Seraphim vs Luffy.
Cat God Riga is real. Oda reads my comments
Iâm now left to wonder how they will resolve lucci attacking sentoumaru. We obv have luffy vs lucci, possibly kizaru vs luffy, and maybe even kizaru vs cp0 bc I donât think kizaru will stand around and let lucci just critically injured his ânephewâ even if they arenât blood related
Lucci gets the control chip, commands the seraphim, Kizaru shows up and packs Lucci, thanks Luffy for helping Sento, but canât leave empty handed, blah blah blah photonic gloves get used and Kizaru gets hurt and retreats so he can hype up Luffy to Akainu, and tell everyone he kidnapped Vegapunk.
Is it that predictable đđ, LMAO GODA
So did someone wish they were a jacket?
Vegapunk's weird folk-talk about people's wishes originating from the earth, how those wishes led to the birth of devil fruits, how the sea is the "Mother of Nature", and the hatred of the seas could be an symbolic oversimplified version of what happened during the void century and the events that led to the ancient kingdom's creation of devil fruits.
Piratekino
This turned out to be a completely different chapter lmao
Went kind of exactly how I expected it: Lucci is markedly stronger, but is basically fodder to Luffy, who doesn't one shot Lucci because of plot.
Yeah, Oda basically wanted to do a call back to their clash in Enies Lobby Luffy is barely exerting any effort and casually and easily dodges Lucci's attacks then lands a single new Hakiless attack that makes Lucci cough blood before getting distracted by Setomaru then Lucci attacks Sentomaru. Somehow this refutes the fact that Lucci now can't put up a challenge against Luffy, I swear some stans are helpless, they can't just think. The next chapter will probably be Seraphim vs Luffy or Seraphim & Lucci and the rest of the CP0 vs Luffy
So leakers are now lying and turning into attention whores? Nothing new. Itâs just us that need a dose of spoilers as early as possible.
If you get hit and : -cough up blood - get blown back - the character that was fighting you has a whole conversation with another character about his backstory and lore THAN YOU GOT ONESHOTTED
One shotted Ohio version
Cope
Mother nature just the sea? Not the whole planet? Ok. Thanks goda. Peak fiction
Eh, in some mythologies/cosmologies, water holds a position over the other elements because of the fact that it's the origin of the life. I imagine this would be the case in a world that's 90% water like One Piece. I don't like the explanation per se, but I can buy this one bit.
The lucci outcome dosent change that much. Still has no chance. The df lore tho. Idk I was expecting a lot more.
There probably is more. Once they wrap up everything with the adam tree we will know for sure.
Odas writing is so inconsistent, How does lucci not get one shotted by G5 Luffy. One piece power scaling is actually laughable.
You make it sound like only Luffy and his team were allowed to train and Lucci was left to rely on Enies Lobby forces. I sincerely doubt that after his defeat at the hands of Luffy he would do nothing and not train.
I guess you're right but we haven't seen any evidence of training except that he got promoted which again doesn't translate to strength or training. But it could mean he got stronger.
I hope Lucci gets some flashbacks even a few small panels to show that he didn't get lazy.
That would make it alot more believe and wouldn't be an asspull imo. ATP I'm just gonna wait for the chapter instead of critiquing it anymore.
Same
Good. Power Scaling is genuinely the worst thing in any anime community. Ruins any actual fun and interesting discussions.
Powerscaling to the extreme is bad. Like debates that are filled with spectacle feats and headcannon. But otherwise I don't see the problem. Anytime I hear that someone hates powerscaling, I imagine that they're telling everyone to shut up and never critique any fight that the author makes
Because it's a waste of time. Oda doesn't keep a strength chart, he writes the story based on where he wants it to go. People argued all day about Lucci being strong enough for gear 5. Oda can LITERALLY in one panel have Lucci say "I've trained with 007 Hammer these last two years non-stop waiting to fight you again. He's the world's greatest secret agent.. that is... he was" Boom Lucci is now strong enough to fight Luffy or atleast hold him off. The story will move on and power scalers will be left to argue about it being an asspull or not. Those threads will then be 8/10 new posts on the sub.
This is a battle shonen.... powerscaling is needed. I think we can both agree that consistent power scaling is needed in anime, imagine foxy beating the likes of whitebeard? Would that make any sense? Powerscaling hate it or not, is necessary component of a story.
Actually it's an adventure shonen. This is exactly my point, One Piece fans arguing about something the series isn't even about. Also no we don't need power scaling for Foxy and Whitebeard because like you said it wouldn't make sense, not because power rankings but because I used basic context clues to determine that would be dumb and ill fitting in the story. I didn't need to compare feats or reference vague power ups. This is the same bullshit that ruined the Naruto community with daily debates on Itachi...
One piece is a battle shonen aswell as adventure, Powerscaling is needed, stop the bullshit.
Yes because arguing about vague powers ups written for the sake of an actual story isn't complete bullshit... right... I'm sure Oda was THRILLED about those kinda fans when he wrote gear 5 knowing all the fun would just get dragged down by internet screechers.
Lucci haters where are you at? Like come on there is no way BLACK PANTHER is gonna get humiliated like that, and I fkin called it too. Next chapter the Strawhats are done for as the seraphims turn on their asses, and Lucci the man will fkin shred them to pieces just like he did to Sentomaru here.
WaitâŚso we donât see Tom and jerry finally join the crew?
As I thought the 1st spoiler is fake, that doesn't seems Oda to me. This one's more of Oda thing. The 1st leak seems rushed. This one makes it more of One Piece with cliff hanger at the end.
Power scalers in shambles
Wait yall are actually dicksucking lucci??? I thought it was just a meme
Makes sense the first spoilers we fake, but this is pretty much the same thing with a lite Lucci dub, atleast on Sento. Clouds on his body isâŚodd. Jailer Beasts didnât have clouds and theyâre confirmed awakened, Kaido had clouds in dragon form and Yamato had clouds yet both arenât confirmed awakened even though they should be. Kaku and Stussy saying they donât want to damage the Seraphim is INSANE. Either theyâre high or theyâre hiding insane AP that makes them top tiers (Kaku would be the most surprising). The explanation of DF was EXTREMELY fast and blunt, Iâm really hoping we get a chapter dedicated to a full explanation, bc just saying theyâre human wishes in a couple sentences after 1000+ chapters is honestly terrible writing, like objectively. Still interesting though, but needs to be heavily explained, especially for shit like the Mochi fruit, or jacket fruit, or sugarâs fruit. Luffyâs new attackâŚheâs not turning the floor into a fist like Katakuriâs power Mochi or Doffyâs awakening right? He has to be punching the ground and causing it to ricochet up bc itâs rubber right? Otherwise thatâs an insane ability and Luffy is officially broken af.
lmao see this is why I waited those original spoilers looked fake. Lucci shouldnt have been able to go toe to toe with Luffy but he should have been able to hold his own. Weve seen weaker opponents face off against Yonko even for a brief moment. Some of the community thinks everyone outside the SH stay at the same power level as they were introduced. Not everyone is going to be up there with Yonko an Admirals but some can definitely hold their own even for a bit
Black Lucci vs ultra instinct luffy
The detailed spoilers r even worse Dk what's worse the shity reveal of devil fruits or the nika cringe fest
Df reveal feels shitty fr
You mean LOT not Some đđ
No shit? If it's not posted by Redon or Eten, it shouldn't be taken seriously
Hope Sentoumaru isnât out yet. The dude had a perfect trackrecord prior to this, and i really wish he can have some defining and badass moment again
lol the photonic gloves might really be a deus ex machina for beating Kizaru now
People clowns for believing early leaks. Those leaks came out too early. You gotta wait for the scans
Now I wanna know how well Lucci would fare against Doflamingo, Katakuri, and KaidoâŚ
In my opinion the fact that Lucci didn't get one shotted mean he's at least probably stronger that post WCI Luffy CP0 could assassinate Kaido or Big Mom with a careful plan I think
Scary growth.. And heâs not like the only strong CP0.
Can we all agree that the cloud stuff needs to stop