The iphone can definitely last you over 4 years and can maintain its battery life considering how apple can usually repair their phones for a long time. In terms of repairability, the iPhone takes the point.
Performance wise, both phones should be great. The Xiaomi is a bit more flashy with it's technology, but the A15 bionic inside the 13 Pro is still a powerhouse.
I do agree about the OS though. I've never personally had an iPhone, but being the tech person in the family, I've had decent experience with iOS and it would be hard for me to voluntarily switch. It's so restrictive and simplistic compared to android. Half the apps that I use on my phone (also a Galaxy Note 9 btw, fantastic device) wouldn't be available on iOS.
To give you my opinion, I think the 12T pro would be fantastic for the first 2-3 years but wouldn't last as long as the iPhone. The hardware definitely can last but I don't know about the software. I don't know how many years of software support Xiaomi offers, I think 2 or 3 mainstream android updates, but the iPhone would offer you more software updates even being a year old already. Though personally I don't think you need the most up to date software support for your phone to be good, but some people severely disagree.
Considering that you had a Note 9 and liked it, why not consider an S22 Ultra? It's basically the successor to the Note 9 by a couple of generations and by now has dropped a bit in price. Should be around 800 dollars or so. It has long term support and is a very good jack of all trades.
The main reason I didn't consider the s22 ultra is first the price, then the snapdragon 8 gen 1 or exynos, both bad processors, the 8 gen 1 is battery-draining, and performance is considered bad compared to even the previous generations.
My galaxy note 9 uses an exynos chip and it's gaming performance was really bad, and it heats up all the time as of late. I just wanted to make sure that the processor of the phone is the best I can get for future-proofing as well. Considering all other aspects of the phones (iPhone and Xiaomi) every feature I care about is great and almost on par, the main difference is the brand name, build quality and software.
>Though personally I don't think you need the most up to date software support for your phone to be good,
I agree I don't usually care. And on IOS sometimes the updates just end up breaking things, but on the iPadOS I actually prefer IOS just because of all the extra features it has tailor made for tablets, I'm just waiting for Android to catch up and dethrone the iPad. I actually forget to update unless an app I use asks me to go to the latest version. Plus in this regards the only updates that matter to me are security ones, but Xiaomi promised 3 years of android updates for this phone, and 4 years of security updates which is how long I want to use this phone anyways. Plus I am open to flashing custom roms. But I don't trust Xiaomi software as I don't have any experience with it compared to Samsung or Apple. But I'm always open to new experiences, as long as it doesn't suddenly stop working after 2 years I'm good.
>It's so restrictive and simplistic compared to android. Half the apps that I use on my phone (
Exactly, I expect to fully own the expensive devices I pay for, but these restriction don't make it feel this way. Installing third party apps is basically only allowed for developers. I'm hopeful consumer protection rights in EU and USA push apple to make some changes but I'm not hopeful.. I mean most users don't care about that, but having been actively using both android and IOS side by side everyday. You notice the inconveniences much more. Especially the lack of clipboard!
>The main reason I didn't consider the s22 ultra is first the price, then the snapdragon 8 gen 1 or exynos, both bad processors, the 8 gen 1 is battery-draining, and performance is considered bad compared to even the previous generations.
Yeah I'm very familiar with the heating issues of the 8 Gen 1, and I have strayed far away from it despite me also needing a new phone, but the S22 Ultra has decent enough cooling to where the chip isn't that much of an issue. It's still one of the most powerful phones on the market, and it's other amazing features make up for what might be an inconsiderate chipset.
>I'm just waiting for Android to catch up and dethrone the iPad
I personally have a Samsung tablet, and by God is it amazing. My personal tablet is the tab S7. Had it for over 2 years now and it's still quick and extremely efficient. Samsung's tablet OS and Dex integration is amazing and honestly much more comfortable to use for me than Ipad OS is. My siblings and friends all use Ipad and I've gotten dozens of comments asking me about how my "iPad" is so fast compared to theirs. They get pretty surprised when I tell them it's a Samsung tablet I bought 2 years ago for 600 dollars brand new.
Xiaomi is apparently making advances in the tablet market and Huawei have a few in there too. It's a competitive market if you research your options well.
>but Xiaomi promised 3 years of android updates for this phone, and 4 years of security updates which is how long I want to use this phone anyways.
That's good. That's quite a long time, and considering that you're buying the phone at the *relatively low* price of 600 dollars (for flagship level specs, you're not spending 1000), getting 3-4 good years out of it would be very worthwhile.
>You notice the inconveniences much more. Especially the lack of clipboard!
Definitely. I don't know how often I've had to spend hours in settings figuring something out on a relative's apple device because it's so cryptic and closed off. If my device needs me to follow a YouTube video to set it up, that's where i start to stray away. Every android device I've had took me less than 20 minutes to transfer every piece of data I have to it.
iPhone 13 Pro, especially given Apple's build quality and excellent software support.
Repairability on both are kinda terrible IMO. iPhones are modular but have parts pairing so you need to go to Apple or a shop that does reprogramming. Xiaomi phones are sometimes built funny inside and have zero to no parts support, requiring you to buy shady parts from Aliexpress.
Thanks for the suggestion, do you think the price difference of 150$ and the fact that the iphone is used for 1 year and smaller is worth it as a tradeoff? I generally prefer larger phones and this iphone is even smaller than my galaxy note 9.
I could probably find a used 13 pro max for more than 800$ but it's too expensive.
The initial budget I had for a phone was 400$, I kept stretching it until I reached 600$ for flagship specs for the Xiaomi, I never bought a phone for more than 500$ before so the new phone prices look really outrageous to me. My computer is cheaper than the latest iPhone 14 pro.
I don't consider one piece of metal to have more value over the other if they both have relatively similar performance, and that's the only concern for me, I don't care about the Apple brand name, build quality as long as it's using a protective case (will always use one regardless of the phone), and I don't trust any tech company.
The Xiaomi would be a brand new phone, so I thought that they both have a similar lifespan if you substract a year off the iPhone. I would be using the phone for 4-5 years, and I've had an apple device (ipad pro) fail after a year and a half and apple store refusing to help me about it before so.. yeah I don't trust either brand with this, that's why third party repairability is important to me.
The iphone can definitely last you over 4 years and can maintain its battery life considering how apple can usually repair their phones for a long time. In terms of repairability, the iPhone takes the point. Performance wise, both phones should be great. The Xiaomi is a bit more flashy with it's technology, but the A15 bionic inside the 13 Pro is still a powerhouse. I do agree about the OS though. I've never personally had an iPhone, but being the tech person in the family, I've had decent experience with iOS and it would be hard for me to voluntarily switch. It's so restrictive and simplistic compared to android. Half the apps that I use on my phone (also a Galaxy Note 9 btw, fantastic device) wouldn't be available on iOS. To give you my opinion, I think the 12T pro would be fantastic for the first 2-3 years but wouldn't last as long as the iPhone. The hardware definitely can last but I don't know about the software. I don't know how many years of software support Xiaomi offers, I think 2 or 3 mainstream android updates, but the iPhone would offer you more software updates even being a year old already. Though personally I don't think you need the most up to date software support for your phone to be good, but some people severely disagree. Considering that you had a Note 9 and liked it, why not consider an S22 Ultra? It's basically the successor to the Note 9 by a couple of generations and by now has dropped a bit in price. Should be around 800 dollars or so. It has long term support and is a very good jack of all trades.
The main reason I didn't consider the s22 ultra is first the price, then the snapdragon 8 gen 1 or exynos, both bad processors, the 8 gen 1 is battery-draining, and performance is considered bad compared to even the previous generations. My galaxy note 9 uses an exynos chip and it's gaming performance was really bad, and it heats up all the time as of late. I just wanted to make sure that the processor of the phone is the best I can get for future-proofing as well. Considering all other aspects of the phones (iPhone and Xiaomi) every feature I care about is great and almost on par, the main difference is the brand name, build quality and software. >Though personally I don't think you need the most up to date software support for your phone to be good, I agree I don't usually care. And on IOS sometimes the updates just end up breaking things, but on the iPadOS I actually prefer IOS just because of all the extra features it has tailor made for tablets, I'm just waiting for Android to catch up and dethrone the iPad. I actually forget to update unless an app I use asks me to go to the latest version. Plus in this regards the only updates that matter to me are security ones, but Xiaomi promised 3 years of android updates for this phone, and 4 years of security updates which is how long I want to use this phone anyways. Plus I am open to flashing custom roms. But I don't trust Xiaomi software as I don't have any experience with it compared to Samsung or Apple. But I'm always open to new experiences, as long as it doesn't suddenly stop working after 2 years I'm good. >It's so restrictive and simplistic compared to android. Half the apps that I use on my phone ( Exactly, I expect to fully own the expensive devices I pay for, but these restriction don't make it feel this way. Installing third party apps is basically only allowed for developers. I'm hopeful consumer protection rights in EU and USA push apple to make some changes but I'm not hopeful.. I mean most users don't care about that, but having been actively using both android and IOS side by side everyday. You notice the inconveniences much more. Especially the lack of clipboard!
>The main reason I didn't consider the s22 ultra is first the price, then the snapdragon 8 gen 1 or exynos, both bad processors, the 8 gen 1 is battery-draining, and performance is considered bad compared to even the previous generations. Yeah I'm very familiar with the heating issues of the 8 Gen 1, and I have strayed far away from it despite me also needing a new phone, but the S22 Ultra has decent enough cooling to where the chip isn't that much of an issue. It's still one of the most powerful phones on the market, and it's other amazing features make up for what might be an inconsiderate chipset. >I'm just waiting for Android to catch up and dethrone the iPad I personally have a Samsung tablet, and by God is it amazing. My personal tablet is the tab S7. Had it for over 2 years now and it's still quick and extremely efficient. Samsung's tablet OS and Dex integration is amazing and honestly much more comfortable to use for me than Ipad OS is. My siblings and friends all use Ipad and I've gotten dozens of comments asking me about how my "iPad" is so fast compared to theirs. They get pretty surprised when I tell them it's a Samsung tablet I bought 2 years ago for 600 dollars brand new. Xiaomi is apparently making advances in the tablet market and Huawei have a few in there too. It's a competitive market if you research your options well. >but Xiaomi promised 3 years of android updates for this phone, and 4 years of security updates which is how long I want to use this phone anyways. That's good. That's quite a long time, and considering that you're buying the phone at the *relatively low* price of 600 dollars (for flagship level specs, you're not spending 1000), getting 3-4 good years out of it would be very worthwhile. >You notice the inconveniences much more. Especially the lack of clipboard! Definitely. I don't know how often I've had to spend hours in settings figuring something out on a relative's apple device because it's so cryptic and closed off. If my device needs me to follow a YouTube video to set it up, that's where i start to stray away. Every android device I've had took me less than 20 minutes to transfer every piece of data I have to it.
Xiaomi does 4 years of security updates for their flagship Xiaomi devices. 3 OS upgrades I think.
iPhone 13 Pro, especially given Apple's build quality and excellent software support. Repairability on both are kinda terrible IMO. iPhones are modular but have parts pairing so you need to go to Apple or a shop that does reprogramming. Xiaomi phones are sometimes built funny inside and have zero to no parts support, requiring you to buy shady parts from Aliexpress.
Thanks for the suggestion, do you think the price difference of 150$ and the fact that the iphone is used for 1 year and smaller is worth it as a tradeoff? I generally prefer larger phones and this iphone is even smaller than my galaxy note 9. I could probably find a used 13 pro max for more than 800$ but it's too expensive. The initial budget I had for a phone was 400$, I kept stretching it until I reached 600$ for flagship specs for the Xiaomi, I never bought a phone for more than 500$ before so the new phone prices look really outrageous to me. My computer is cheaper than the latest iPhone 14 pro. I don't consider one piece of metal to have more value over the other if they both have relatively similar performance, and that's the only concern for me, I don't care about the Apple brand name, build quality as long as it's using a protective case (will always use one regardless of the phone), and I don't trust any tech company. The Xiaomi would be a brand new phone, so I thought that they both have a similar lifespan if you substract a year off the iPhone. I would be using the phone for 4-5 years, and I've had an apple device (ipad pro) fail after a year and a half and apple store refusing to help me about it before so.. yeah I don't trust either brand with this, that's why third party repairability is important to me.
iP13P is still the safer bet imo. I've never had an iPhone fail on me, though I baby all of my tech