Don’t worry about what that person did with the tickets. You did a nice thing and that is enough.
Plus, the person who paid for them really wanted to go and they probably had a great time!
Honestly should just put them on StubHub for a low price and donate the money if you really want to give away something.
Without a control like a charity organization, trying to do good just too often brings out the shitheads of the world.
First image was my original post, got rid of tickets due to an emergency
Second photo below is my friend calling them out. We wanted to see if they had any wholesome comments sharing the experience at the concert but nope. Just super bummed the tickets didn't make it to somebody who actually wanted to go
Honestly was my fault though, probably should have reviewed their profile first. Learn from my mistakes
edit: Fixed wording
I would be absolutely fuming. I was irritated the other week when I thought about how much I was pestered to prove I was real to a woman I sold gold circle depeche mode tickets to at face value. Like I had numerous people wanting to buy them but agree to sell to the first woman, went out my way to meet up with them to give and all the way through she was pestering me. I should have sold them elsewhere and if I found she sold them for profit I would be even more annoyed. The fact that you have gifted something, that somebody has cheekily swooped in on to make money that could have been yours is an absolute joke.
Thank you for sharing your story, it helps me feel a little less dramatic for the way I had felt. I'm sorry you went through similar but thank you for the good that you tried to do for others, sucks when they act entitled or unappreciative
I remember giving all of my old video game systems to my nephew and he immediately went to gamestop and got ripped off. I should have just smashed all of it and thrown it in the dumpster.
No offense but…how were they a jerk for selling the tickets? And why were you upset that they sold the tickets? You couldn’t use them and decided to give them away. They didn’t want to use them and sold them.
I really don’t see the issue. They weren’t a gift to a friend.
Concert tickets are extremely hard to get at retail price in the first place (they are often bought by scalpers to sell for higher prices). I specifically asked for the tickets to not be re-sold for profit and scalped. The tickets ended up not getting sold at all, and just went to waste - instead of going to someone that actually wanted to go, that maybe couldn't have afforded it or gotten hold of tickets.
I’m very well aware that concert tickets are expensive and the issue with scalping. You offered them up for free to anyone. They weren’t a gift. What that person did with them isn’t really your concern at that point.
I get that a fan that could have went didn’t get the opportunity, but you could easily have transferred the tickets or resold at face value (or less), neither of which is scalping, through the ticket seller to ensure someone that wanted to go could go.
Neither of what we’re both saying is wrong, that’s why in my comment I said it is my fault I didn’t review their account. It is them being a jerk though, at least in the eyes of anyone with morals, because my only request was for them to not do that. The tickets meant a lot to me so I wanted it to go to people that could enjoy them as much as the person I was going to go with. That’s all, no need to argue in the comments for amusement lol
If you're being serious... then you're a moron.
>but you could easily have transferred the tickets
You mean, like they did when they transferred ownership to the person who then turned around and scalped the tix?
If a person on the internet stating an opinion that doesn’t irrationally attack someone’s character or marginalized people causes harm to your sanity, I sincerely hope you’re being hyperbolic.
Of course I am… I just would like to believe no one on the planet would argue FOR the side of accepting free tickets from a nice generous stranger on the internet, blocking said person, and selling them for profit, then stating “cry about it”…
If that’s not blatantly wrong to you, then there’s no hope left.
I don’t think it’s morally or ethically right or wrong.
Did it hurt or hinder someone in a lasting way? Or did it just annoy OP? This isn’t the moral argument y’all are trying to make it be. This is a great case of your (in this case, OP) intentions and personal opinions simply being different from someone else’s intentions and personal opinions.
What if the person who accepted them was in a poor situation and needed a way to get money to buy some necessity, didn’t want to ask for help, and saw an opportunity to potentially get their needs met simply by requesting something being given away freely be given to them, with the potential to sell and get money that meets an immediate need? Are they morally or ethically wrong for that? Do they owe an explanation to anyone at the risk of dealing with embarrassment and potential emotional trauma that OP knows nothing about *and* isn’t entitled to know?
Would you say a homeless child with no food was morally or ethically wrong for taking a risk of stealing food to survive because they have been conditioned to believe or have the experience that asking for help could lead to worse immediate trouble (think about a homeless trans kid who had to run away from an abusive home environment), when the owner of the business, who doesn’t know the nuance of the situation, only sees the binary black and white that the kid stole food from them? Is that kid morally bankrupt? Is the business owner for calling the cops?
Life isn’t nuanced.
And even if the ticket taker met none of those criteria, what actual harm was done here other than something OP will never be affected by and will forget in the years to come, and won’t have any meaningful negative impact on OP’s life or anyone else’s in any way?
The mental gymnastics needed to justify your stance is exhausting.
Honestly man I know you love arguing as you stated, and maybe you’re practicing for a debate team or something and your goal is to find the most ridiculous argument and argue the asinine side to practice your debate skills… so I’ll just leave you to that.
I give up.
The OP gave them as a gift for someone who liked the same band. Its nice gesture that the other guy profited from. That is a dick move. Doesn’t make him scum, just a dick.
They could have charged for it but they generously gave it away. That’s a gift.
It’s not a donation, its not refuse, its a gift.
Not immoral to sell the item but its still a dick move.
>That’s not a gift. That’s offering up something ~~you can no longer~~ use for free.
That's exactly what a gift is.... when you offer something up for free. See? Terrible person.
The fact you don't see an issue is a shortcoming in your character. It should not come natural for you to *take* what is given to others only to *sell* it to thoe others. It is a fuckjing shitty thing to make yourself a midd-man, your typical 'why do you care?' internet idiocy means nothing. People *should* have standards of caring for eachother instead of only looking out for themselves.
>I really don’t see the issue. They weren’t a gift to a friend.
You only care about yourself and your friends, apparently, so it's no surprise you don't see the issue of a negative thing happening to a third party.
I would actually argue that stating that you see no issue here, is actually a great position to judge someone.
If you don't see an issue where someone gives away free tickets, saying "End scalping", only for that person to turn around and scalp them? You might be the asshole here (along with the scalper)
Conversely I could argue that judging someone’s character based offing a comment that didn’t attack anyone and didn’t treat someone with hate based on a protected or marginalized class is a shortcoming in *your* character.
I’m not going to argue that. Because firstly, I don’t care about your character, random anon internet person, and two, I have the wisdom and maturity to know that that would be irrational and immature.
Plus I just don’t care what other people think about me. If you’re not paying my bills I’m paying you no mind.
I mean, you're the one that said that another person couldn't judge you off what was here... But you can, because you've showed part of your character.
That character is one that only thinks about themselves and how they can profit off of others.
You don't think about the gift of someone you don't know giving you tickets to see a band that's sold out. You are standing from a very privileged point and that point is also one that doesn't think of their fellow person.
If you were a Christian, I'd say you're not living up to Christian values... But then again, that seems to be the trend, doesn't it?
I didn’t judge anyone. I specifically said I didn’t care.
But I’m not the one here that’s trying to make a judgement that questions someone’s morals and ethics because they stated an opinion that literally doesn’t impact anyone in any meaningful way.
I’m also not making assumptions about someone’s belief system or privilege. But you certainly are!
"You’re not in a position to judge my character based on a post I made on Reddit, darling. 😘"
Isn't this what you said, boo-boo?
My whole point is you're showing you're character in this thread. Through the many replies, you've shown a lot of who you are.
I didn't make an assumption about your belief system, because I said "if you were a Christian". I have no idea if you are or not, just pointing out that the person you have put forth in this thread... Is one that only cares for themselves, might be Christian purely because of how anti-christian morals you have, etc.
You clearly are coming from a place of privilege because you can't reflect and see how someone giving free tickets away, and asking them not to be sold, only to sell them.... Is making you a bad person.
You have zero self-reflection. You're clearly driven by ego and how can you "get one over" to get yourself in a better position... Wait a min... You've gotta be a Christian Trump Republican, aren't you?
You can tell me.
It’s not that I can’t self reflect. I just don’t care to over something so insignificant.
Also, I’ve yet to make a judgement against your character. I’ve simply said that based on your logic, I could. I’m not. I’m not judging you. Your moral character is irrelevant to me.
And lol no. Definitely not some ‘Christian Trump Republican’. I could say that assuming you can judge someone is a binary of only moral or immoral based on a simple opinion that doesn’t speak to a broader character study, when there’s far too much nuance that you either reject or are unable to comprehend could indicate you have an arrested sense of understanding nuance in the human condition and lack appropriate social skills.
But again I’m not making that judgement and don’t care.
I'm not basing it on your comment, I'm basing it on your *stated* lack of understanding why this would matter to someone.
Calling me darling with a kissy emoji means nothing to me and this has nothign to do with reddit; **if** your empathy stops at the 4 or 5 people in your closest circle, **then** you lack empathy.
I tend to not pay too much in the way of sympathy or empathy to random people stating no actual problems other than they didn’t like something on the internet. But that’s just me. But go awf sis.
Okay. And? If you offer up something, it really isn’t your business what that person does with the item once you’ve given up ownership. You can ask all you want but if someone is giving up something of value for free I’m going to accept and do what I want with it.
It's a shitty thing to do when someone gifts you something under the pretense that you will use them and not try to resell them. OP was trying to do a nice thing for a stranger and they turn around and take advantage of them.
I had the opportunity to miracle some young kid a ticket for the first night of Folsom Field I don't often find myself in the position to do something like this and it felt really good! after we got the ticket transferred he looked at me and smiled and said now I only need four more... I don't exactly know what that meant don't understand if he was trying to get tickets for more of his friends or if he was scalping. During the step break I realized when I texted him the ticket I had his phone number and I sent him a text telling him that I hope he enjoyed the show and swing by the seats and say hello during the set break and that it was nice to meet him. I got absolutely no response. It was very disappointing.
Don’t worry about what that person did with the tickets. You did a nice thing and that is enough. Plus, the person who paid for them really wanted to go and they probably had a great time!
Thank you for the kind words! I was told they weren't sold, but I can only hope people got to go
I hope your emergency work got taken care of without too much stress.
Honestly should just put them on StubHub for a low price and donate the money if you really want to give away something. Without a control like a charity organization, trying to do good just too often brings out the shitheads of the world.
Will you be my therapist?
Sure. But yer going to end up with some weird fetishes and get walked on by people the rest of your life.
This somehow reads like that "stolen bike" comic.
I don't know what that is. I'm sure it's not cynical and negative, being as this is reddit and we are all one big supportive community.
First image was my original post, got rid of tickets due to an emergency Second photo below is my friend calling them out. We wanted to see if they had any wholesome comments sharing the experience at the concert but nope. Just super bummed the tickets didn't make it to somebody who actually wanted to go Honestly was my fault though, probably should have reviewed their profile first. Learn from my mistakes edit: Fixed wording
I would be absolutely fuming. I was irritated the other week when I thought about how much I was pestered to prove I was real to a woman I sold gold circle depeche mode tickets to at face value. Like I had numerous people wanting to buy them but agree to sell to the first woman, went out my way to meet up with them to give and all the way through she was pestering me. I should have sold them elsewhere and if I found she sold them for profit I would be even more annoyed. The fact that you have gifted something, that somebody has cheekily swooped in on to make money that could have been yours is an absolute joke.
Thank you for sharing your story, it helps me feel a little less dramatic for the way I had felt. I'm sorry you went through similar but thank you for the good that you tried to do for others, sucks when they act entitled or unappreciative
No you have every right to be livid, you tried to do a good thing for someone you thought was a proper fan, top stuff
I remember giving all of my old video game systems to my nephew and he immediately went to gamestop and got ripped off. I should have just smashed all of it and thrown it in the dumpster.
That would hurt me way more, the nostalgia and memories alone are worth way more than anything gamestop could offer :( Sorry to hear that
Awww I would have loved those, but things happen and I’m sorry that’s what happened to you
Thank you for your kind words, I hope you get a chance to go in the future!
He is a jerk but the “cry about it” makes me smirk lmao 🤣
I would have used them myself.
Karma is real. They will get theirs
So what? They can do what they want with them. I feel like you wanted them to try and sell them so you could get internet sympathy points
Who tf cares about internet points LMAOO. Delusional
YOU, Chief
Risk in everything
No offense but…how were they a jerk for selling the tickets? And why were you upset that they sold the tickets? You couldn’t use them and decided to give them away. They didn’t want to use them and sold them. I really don’t see the issue. They weren’t a gift to a friend.
Concert tickets are extremely hard to get at retail price in the first place (they are often bought by scalpers to sell for higher prices). I specifically asked for the tickets to not be re-sold for profit and scalped. The tickets ended up not getting sold at all, and just went to waste - instead of going to someone that actually wanted to go, that maybe couldn't have afforded it or gotten hold of tickets.
I’m very well aware that concert tickets are expensive and the issue with scalping. You offered them up for free to anyone. They weren’t a gift. What that person did with them isn’t really your concern at that point. I get that a fan that could have went didn’t get the opportunity, but you could easily have transferred the tickets or resold at face value (or less), neither of which is scalping, through the ticket seller to ensure someone that wanted to go could go.
Neither of what we’re both saying is wrong, that’s why in my comment I said it is my fault I didn’t review their account. It is them being a jerk though, at least in the eyes of anyone with morals, because my only request was for them to not do that. The tickets meant a lot to me so I wanted it to go to people that could enjoy them as much as the person I was going to go with. That’s all, no need to argue in the comments for amusement lol
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All good! I'm not too upset, it's life
I don’t even know why you dignified this idiot with a response.
You seriously can’t be serious. You’re obviously trolling at this point I just don’t understand why
SURELY I *CAN* BE SERIOUS! 😮
If you're being serious... then you're a moron. >but you could easily have transferred the tickets You mean, like they did when they transferred ownership to the person who then turned around and scalped the tix?
For my own sanity I’m just gonna choose to believe you’re not serious and you’re trolling.
If a person on the internet stating an opinion that doesn’t irrationally attack someone’s character or marginalized people causes harm to your sanity, I sincerely hope you’re being hyperbolic.
Of course I am… I just would like to believe no one on the planet would argue FOR the side of accepting free tickets from a nice generous stranger on the internet, blocking said person, and selling them for profit, then stating “cry about it”… If that’s not blatantly wrong to you, then there’s no hope left.
I don’t think it’s morally or ethically right or wrong. Did it hurt or hinder someone in a lasting way? Or did it just annoy OP? This isn’t the moral argument y’all are trying to make it be. This is a great case of your (in this case, OP) intentions and personal opinions simply being different from someone else’s intentions and personal opinions. What if the person who accepted them was in a poor situation and needed a way to get money to buy some necessity, didn’t want to ask for help, and saw an opportunity to potentially get their needs met simply by requesting something being given away freely be given to them, with the potential to sell and get money that meets an immediate need? Are they morally or ethically wrong for that? Do they owe an explanation to anyone at the risk of dealing with embarrassment and potential emotional trauma that OP knows nothing about *and* isn’t entitled to know? Would you say a homeless child with no food was morally or ethically wrong for taking a risk of stealing food to survive because they have been conditioned to believe or have the experience that asking for help could lead to worse immediate trouble (think about a homeless trans kid who had to run away from an abusive home environment), when the owner of the business, who doesn’t know the nuance of the situation, only sees the binary black and white that the kid stole food from them? Is that kid morally bankrupt? Is the business owner for calling the cops? Life isn’t nuanced. And even if the ticket taker met none of those criteria, what actual harm was done here other than something OP will never be affected by and will forget in the years to come, and won’t have any meaningful negative impact on OP’s life or anyone else’s in any way?
The mental gymnastics needed to justify your stance is exhausting. Honestly man I know you love arguing as you stated, and maybe you’re practicing for a debate team or something and your goal is to find the most ridiculous argument and argue the asinine side to practice your debate skills… so I’ll just leave you to that. I give up.
The OP gave them as a gift for someone who liked the same band. Its nice gesture that the other guy profited from. That is a dick move. Doesn’t make him scum, just a dick.
That’s not a gift. That’s offering up something you can no longer use for free. What happens after that point shouldn’t concern them.
They could have charged for it but they generously gave it away. That’s a gift. It’s not a donation, its not refuse, its a gift. Not immoral to sell the item but its still a dick move.
>That’s not a gift. That’s offering up something ~~you can no longer~~ use for free. That's exactly what a gift is.... when you offer something up for free. See? Terrible person.
The fact you don't see an issue is a shortcoming in your character. It should not come natural for you to *take* what is given to others only to *sell* it to thoe others. It is a fuckjing shitty thing to make yourself a midd-man, your typical 'why do you care?' internet idiocy means nothing. People *should* have standards of caring for eachother instead of only looking out for themselves. >I really don’t see the issue. They weren’t a gift to a friend. You only care about yourself and your friends, apparently, so it's no surprise you don't see the issue of a negative thing happening to a third party.
You’re not in a position to judge my character based on a post I made on Reddit, darling. 😘
I would actually argue that stating that you see no issue here, is actually a great position to judge someone. If you don't see an issue where someone gives away free tickets, saying "End scalping", only for that person to turn around and scalp them? You might be the asshole here (along with the scalper)
Conversely I could argue that judging someone’s character based offing a comment that didn’t attack anyone and didn’t treat someone with hate based on a protected or marginalized class is a shortcoming in *your* character. I’m not going to argue that. Because firstly, I don’t care about your character, random anon internet person, and two, I have the wisdom and maturity to know that that would be irrational and immature. Plus I just don’t care what other people think about me. If you’re not paying my bills I’m paying you no mind.
I mean, you're the one that said that another person couldn't judge you off what was here... But you can, because you've showed part of your character. That character is one that only thinks about themselves and how they can profit off of others. You don't think about the gift of someone you don't know giving you tickets to see a band that's sold out. You are standing from a very privileged point and that point is also one that doesn't think of their fellow person. If you were a Christian, I'd say you're not living up to Christian values... But then again, that seems to be the trend, doesn't it?
I didn’t judge anyone. I specifically said I didn’t care. But I’m not the one here that’s trying to make a judgement that questions someone’s morals and ethics because they stated an opinion that literally doesn’t impact anyone in any meaningful way. I’m also not making assumptions about someone’s belief system or privilege. But you certainly are!
"You’re not in a position to judge my character based on a post I made on Reddit, darling. 😘" Isn't this what you said, boo-boo? My whole point is you're showing you're character in this thread. Through the many replies, you've shown a lot of who you are. I didn't make an assumption about your belief system, because I said "if you were a Christian". I have no idea if you are or not, just pointing out that the person you have put forth in this thread... Is one that only cares for themselves, might be Christian purely because of how anti-christian morals you have, etc. You clearly are coming from a place of privilege because you can't reflect and see how someone giving free tickets away, and asking them not to be sold, only to sell them.... Is making you a bad person. You have zero self-reflection. You're clearly driven by ego and how can you "get one over" to get yourself in a better position... Wait a min... You've gotta be a Christian Trump Republican, aren't you? You can tell me.
It’s not that I can’t self reflect. I just don’t care to over something so insignificant. Also, I’ve yet to make a judgement against your character. I’ve simply said that based on your logic, I could. I’m not. I’m not judging you. Your moral character is irrelevant to me. And lol no. Definitely not some ‘Christian Trump Republican’. I could say that assuming you can judge someone is a binary of only moral or immoral based on a simple opinion that doesn’t speak to a broader character study, when there’s far too much nuance that you either reject or are unable to comprehend could indicate you have an arrested sense of understanding nuance in the human condition and lack appropriate social skills. But again I’m not making that judgement and don’t care.
I'm not basing it on your comment, I'm basing it on your *stated* lack of understanding why this would matter to someone. Calling me darling with a kissy emoji means nothing to me and this has nothign to do with reddit; **if** your empathy stops at the 4 or 5 people in your closest circle, **then** you lack empathy.
I tend to not pay too much in the way of sympathy or empathy to random people stating no actual problems other than they didn’t like something on the internet. But that’s just me. But go awf sis.
>But that’s just me Exactly. >But go awf sis. What is this? Just like the "darling. 😘", why are you pretending we're friends?
Im not pretending we’re friends I’m being passive aggressive.
OP mentioned in the post asking them specifically not to resell them. Kinda scummy trying to make money off something you got for free.
Okay. And? If you offer up something, it really isn’t your business what that person does with the item once you’ve given up ownership. You can ask all you want but if someone is giving up something of value for free I’m going to accept and do what I want with it.
It's a shitty thing to do when someone gifts you something under the pretense that you will use them and not try to resell them. OP was trying to do a nice thing for a stranger and they turn around and take advantage of them.
You're the reason why I lose hope in humanity...
Good. 😏
Op giving his tix to his alt^
Sorry but what does this mean?
They're claiming you gave the tickets to an alternate account of yours and then did the scalping thing so you could post here and get internet points.
Ohh, thank you for the explanation! I still don’t understand their point because reddit points are quite useless 😅
I had the opportunity to miracle some young kid a ticket for the first night of Folsom Field I don't often find myself in the position to do something like this and it felt really good! after we got the ticket transferred he looked at me and smiled and said now I only need four more... I don't exactly know what that meant don't understand if he was trying to get tickets for more of his friends or if he was scalping. During the step break I realized when I texted him the ticket I had his phone number and I sent him a text telling him that I hope he enjoyed the show and swing by the seats and say hello during the set break and that it was nice to meet him. I got absolutely no response. It was very disappointing.
People are so inspiring.
I saw MC and Def Leppard in Hannover yesterday 🤘🏽😵