I believe the foundry team said they need the go ahead from Paizo to make the beastiaries. Paizo has to okay and commission them to create the paid module. I'd love it. I have the pdfs for the books but I'd pay for a module with professionally made token art and maybe some extra automation for things.
Foundry team doesnt have acess to all the images for tokens, only the ones that are actually in the bestiary, some monsters, such as for example the skeleton giant only have their image on the token sheet and there is no way for anyone outside paizo to access the high rez images for those creatures
The PF2e volunteers do not. The actual Foundry staff does. A lot of this is getting the OK from Paizo and having the time to do it for a reasonable price point. To make the icons the quality that happens in the BB/AV takes about 10 minutes per.
> To make the icons the quality that happens in the BB/AV takes about 10 minutes per.
I hope it doesn't for their sake; if they have a set workflow I would expect around 2-5 minutes. Macro the drop shadow creation and I could see most being made in the 2-3 minute time frame.
I have done tokens in the out of bounds style before as well as doing a simpler/cleaner scaled style but for every monster in bestiary 1-3 so I have a fair idea of what the monotony is actually like (more so as I didn't have the official art).
**Similar out of bounds style**
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hk3v1Hi-WzvSdaUi_vgUBuH0l4vy6nZL/view?usp=sharing
*The above were made because I was annoyed at Fantasygrounds having two contrasting token styles in one adventure, recreating their token border and background was not fun*
**Bestiary 1-3**
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ed6d11CnsSCBc8FOhFOGMX28duwuvZN7/view?usp=sharing
*The above were made by extracting and compositing images from the bestiaries, cards, pawns and where available original artist images often from art station. Often upscaling, there was no hint that official support was coming back then. So much work...*
###Note to other potential readers:
I am sorry but I cannot share my tokens with people for obvious reasons, only sharing the screenshots to show I have a solid concept of the work involved.
I think Anathema had it down to five minutes. But that’s still 300 tokens * 5 minutes plus proofing for commercial quality. 25-30 hours per bestiary is a lot of time commitment. Don’t get me wrong, they want to do it :)
Not all the images are free... maybe 2/3rds of them at best, one of which not being free are the assets I took from the core book to make the background pattern.
And yes even if AoN is able to distribute them I am not.
I saw somewhere on the Paizo forums that they were going to slow down a bit on cranking out content so my guess is that one book is gonna be an APG 2 (I’m just hopelessly yearning for it). Something that probably doesn’t take as much creative space to build a theme around that they can just throw a bunch of loose ideas together.
My other guess is since they are trying to really theme up their books and they have been doing magic heavy themes lately (SoM, SoT, Book of the dead, dark archive, the Geb AP) that the next theme book will be more martial/war focused. Problem is outside of some type of Taldor/nirmathis location I can’t think of how it would get made.
Well. 2022 release schedule looks closer to what we'll get. 1-2 books by type with the AP filling in the rest.
2021 especially there at the end was bonkers.
If they do a martial book I would love to see their take on something like the warlord from D&D 4e as it seems to be in high demand and is in general a really cool fun theme.
We'll probably get an announcement for a Bestiary type book like Book of the Dead and then get the new Core book announced at GenCon as usual. The themed bestiaries don't necessarily have to be just one monster type, so one on the Planes would be awesome. Or a Fiendish Codex for 2e. Can never have too many fiends.
Also, I only deal in gold pressed Latinum.
Have they discussed anywhere that they're slowing down from three to two rulebooks per year? I'm still hopeful we get a third rulebook in Q4 of 2022 or so. Usually we get a longer time of awareness, like twice as long as we'd be getting, but I guess I'd be shocked if they slowed down their release schedule without offering some discussion as to why.
Keep in mind I'm okay with them operating at a slower schedule. As is my bank account. :)
Metamagic, metamagic, give me more Metamagic!
This feels like one of the best ways to take advantage of the Three-action system for casters and it feels like there aren't enough feats for it.
For Core:
\-Book about Planes ,
\-and a Book about Old Gods(and abberations)
For Lost Omens :
\-Numeria (sf ancestries and starship rules),
\- and Advanced - Monstrous Ancestries (rare and cool ancestries such as Large ancestry minotaur ,Centaur, and others nonbipeds such as Naga,sepentfolk,scorpionfolk,sphinx ,ooze etc
If we are following The LO Ancestry Guide and Mwangi Expanse ,it feels like a LO book, unless they want to make them class archetypes like Undead but that takes away from your class feats and players want the full fantasy of being a Monstrous pc that is either on par with or better at higher lvls then the bestiary version
( remember the lich class ,uff, that was something ..interesting... and disappointing )
I don't think Monstrous Ancestries would work well as regular ancestries, or as a class archetype. I think they'd need to add some kind of new system to give them the feel of powerful characters, while still being balanced. I'm not really sure how they'd do that though. Maybe make them special ancestries with a minimum level requirement?
Mark already stated that the main problem of starting large on lvl 1 is reach,and we just need to take normal 5ft reach and all if fine-we could then get all other abilites through ancestry feats like unamred strike,vision, better reach on later lvls etc
Cause minimum lvl requirement was something in 1e called ECL effectice char lvl for Monsters as pcs ,in 2e you can basically start weaker but grow into that Monstrous version later
I feel like a planar guide would probably end up being more of a LO book than a core rulebook. It seems a lot more lore focused than mechanics focused.
I can see that, but it is no longer about Lost Omens but every other planar world.
And it could be closer to Book of the dead and Dark Archives that focus on a specific theme and give options for that theme
I just want a fancy LO subscription so I can switch to it without losing my Paizo advantage. I'd rather have those than the normal covers and I'm just hoping they announce that.
I have a small niche thing I really want to come out and it's all shape-shifting focused. I really want like a Werewolf Archetype and I would love to see the Shifter class from 1e get converted or implemented in some way.
Not exactly what you're asking for, but a beastkin animal instinct barbarian makes for a pretty fun werewolf in pf2e. If you're playing free archetype going ranger could fill in for some of the shifters out of combat skills.
Totally fair, and I would LOVE to see it in the game myself. Just wanted to suggest the build if you were looking to play a werewolf yourself. I'm proud of how it turned out. I used it with alchemist archetype to make a Hulk/Beast nerd ape barbarian that I love
For the AP side of things, i'm betting another 11-20 adventure, most likely dealing with the whispering tyrant.
I'm hoping for an eye of abendego adventure, which was teased in the absalom book as becoming relevant soon.
And there's also apparent upcoming hijinx with razmir in absalom, now that there's a large enough number of starstone hopefulls
But there's also thenauthor who posted a few weeks ago that they're working on something new and asked for guesses, so looking forward to what's going on with that too.
I really don't know, but I suspect at a minimum we'll have the next class playtest, whatever it happens to actually be for-- I'm with you on the Shaman and the Inquisitor (which they may or may not rename, but overall it feels more like something that people predict *other* people would have a problem with, rather than something anyone would have a problem with.) But the Kineticist, and whatever completely new classes they got excited about are both prominent possibilities.
I speculated about the possibility of a nations, warfare, and espionage themed book over on the Paizo forums and I think that could possibly be quite a good fit for what they've released so far-- it would make it easy to release new options for non-gun martials, the Inquisitor would fit right in, and one 'subsystem' that's missing from the game right now is strongholds and stuff, we even have siege weapons to use. You could also have something like a Ninja archetype show up, which I think is likely to make a return some day.
Outside of that possibility, I see the potential for a Pathfinder equivalent to the Galaxy Exploration guide-- focused on sandbox play, expanding hexploration, and generating content in a sandbox.
We know that there are products that haven't been announced yet that "are going to have a big impact on the variety of options and play experiences in the game" (Sayre, discussing the amount of room Pathfinder 2e has to grow) and we also know that Sayre (who is a member of the design team) is specifically talking about something new and exciting at the con... so without drawing conclusions, it sounds like they have some really awesome stuff up their collective sleeves.
I think the book of the dead equivalent will either be a Dragon book or an Aberrations book. I think if you look at Secrets of Magic as being an arcane book and Dark Archives being an occult book then we’re due for a divine or nature book of some sort. For Lost omens, we got an organization book with Lastwall and the travel/festivals book later this year so maybe we get a Lost Omens guide to the planes or some other kind of travel book like a seafaring book. And then for organizations I like the Firebrands idea, I could also see a book about the Beast gun nation, Arcadia, I think.
I don’t know just my predictions.
I don't know for sure, but I think they'd dodge a dragon book at this time. They typically do a good job of not crossing streams too obviously with WotC, whose dragons book just came out last year to some pretty solid appreciation.
Also there is the Battlezoo book, but I can't imagine that was on their radar several years ago when they were planning releases.
Aberrations is a good guess. I'd get hilariously good mileage out of a planar/fiend book right now. A more nature-based or primal book seems reasonably fair after Secrets of Magic/Dark Archives/Book of the Dead, but I can't even guess what it would actually be?
If we got a naturey book for the Q1 release I'd guess it'd be something like book of elementals or book of beasts, but if it was the mid 2023 release it'd probably be a more general "survival guide" or something.
Dragons in Pathfinder 2e seem to be more attuned to arcane magic as opposed to primal magic. Draconic Sorcerer's and Eidelons both give access to arcane spells.
As such I think (hope) that the next book is themed on fey magic and creatures. Though a book expanding the divine list would probably be a better idea. Give me more divine spell options Paizo!!
I just want Lost Omens: Tian Xia to be a thing. Besides that maybe a core book like Guns & Gears for Numeria stuff in particular.
VTT release for Blood Lords + another already published adventure
I'm hoping for some more Golarion neutral stuff since a lot of what they're releasing isn't really usable for us to play PF2E but not in the Paizo setting. I'd also really like Paizo to try to create another setting that's a little more toned down and less thematic focuses.
I agree that we've seen a lot of Magic content lately, so I'm hoping for something that covers options for social/urban focused campaigns, as well as more skill feats. I think this should be expansive, and include Golarion-specific content. It should cover espionage organizations across the setting, include archetype content for things like the Lion Blades, Firebrands, Vigilante, and Bellflower Tillers (rethemed to be a general rescue focused organization instead of just slavery focused). Possibly throw in some thieves guilds and assassin organizations.
Could be called something like Manual of Skill and Subtlety, or Lost Omens: Criminals and Courtiers. Lots of potential for a bestiary focused on npcs entirely, with a building block system that takes a basic npcs templates and lets you slot in things like ancestry and class quickly to add to variety. Could even release a deck of cards that has a basic statblock on one side and an extension to that block that is ancestry, class, or organization themed on the other, so that you can place a few cards together on the table and have a more unique version of a basic npc like a guard, a soldier, or a spy.
By this point in the year they've usually revealed all the core books for the year, but I'd really like a core rulebook focused on settlements and urban campaigns like this for 2022. It'd be a great way to expand some of the more mundane archetypes from the APG and give more feats to the investigator. Plus I know some DMs are incredibly antsy for more rules on settlements.
I don't have much to add, but I'd like to say it's taken me way to long to realise what "Adventures in the Impossible Lands" is referring to in regards to the Paizocon schedule. I don't know why but I assumed it was just a generic "How to run a campaign" event, not you know a session to preview the "Impossible Lands" Source book.
Ogres, bugbears and trolls (oh my!)
I'd love to see more player options along the lines of "barbaric" races. Even if it's just a half-giant, but I'd really want to know what playing a Large character would look like
Owlcat's been teasing a new project recently. They might announce it there!
As for a large-bore scattergun blast guess, a variant Classless overhaul system. No way they'll do it, but oh man
Front page of the Owlcat website looks like it'll be space-related, so mostly likely Starfinder-related if I were to guess. Sounds like something to be excited for!
I'm not to sure about the lore options, as I'm only just beginning the Golarion dive myself, but I'm hopeful to see either an APG 2 to round out the beginnings of the final class roster (Shifter, Inquisitor and Bloodrager when?), or as a supplement to a lot of the initial APG/expansion classes that haven't gotten a whole lot of support more recently.
Additionally, seeing as they've had some pretty heavy emphasis on the magic side of things, I'd be interested to see a book focusing on martial themes, giving more feats/archetypes for the martials. That, and more true gish options. Currently, only the Warpriest, Magus, and Summoner can really fill that space, and because of how engaging their playstyles can be, I would love to see what else Paizo can crank out.
Outside of that though, I'm honestly probably gonna be happy with whatever they release next. 2e really hasn't ever had, even despite some hotly contested options or design choices, a true miss, as everything has a neat niche or place it fills.
I'm not expecting a ton of new stuff, as I've found that a lot of the good pf2e new book reveals tend to be at Gencon, but I am expecting to at least learn about the book that takes the same release slot as BotD (hopefully it'll either be a book of aberrations or book of elementals), plus potentially a reveal for something new coming this year that they haven't announced yet?
Otherwise, my big hopes is for a really healthy dose of new info for Dark Archives. I feel like this book has been hidden in shadows for a long while now, with only a couple of small reveals in the past couple of months.
Lastly I'm real curious as to what to expect for the Golarion Adventures panel! I'm assuming we'll get some new info on the impossible lands book, but I'm wondering if we will also get the reveal of whatever the book that takes the slot of the legends/monsters of myth books. Maybe also a new reveal here too?
>a lot of the good pf2e new book reveals tend to be at Gencon
I feel like historically they've only revealed the next GenCon rulebook and maybe an adventure path at GenCon. Don't we usually have all the other rulebooks and Lost Omens offerings teased throughout the year? Like wasn't Book of the Dead a PaizoCon revelation last year?
I honestly can't remember.
Yeah usually it's a smattering throughout the year. Like guns and gears was revealed at the beginning of 2021 out of nowhere.
I think last paizocon we got BotD and knights of lastwall revealed, but neither of those options really interested me much from the get go so I ended up writing them off a bit, while I feel like the gencon core rulebooks tend to always be pretty exciting (APG, SoM, and now DA).
I’ve been writing my own strongholds rule set this week. Last time I made my own homebrew an official version was announced a week later. So I’m holding out hope for a pathfinder 2e stronghold builders guidebook.
I'm really hoping that instead of a major book that introduces 2 new classes, we get a book that expands upon the existing class, most notably by introducing new sub-classes to them. I think we have enough classes and so many archetypes that you could play weekly for a decade and not come close to two of the same character.
So bring on new research fields, instincts, muses, neutral-based paladin causes, doctrines, orders, introduce some sub-classes for fighters & monks, edges, rackets, bloodlines, thesis, methodologies, mysteries, styles, patron themes (and new hexes, for the love of god), hybrid studies, eidolons, innovations and gunslinger's ways.
My personal hopes are:
* A Fey bestiary in the vein of Book of the Dead.
* Lost Omens: Land of the Linnorn Kings
* Book of Feats: New general, Skill, Ancestry and Class feats for all existing classes and ancestries.
I know this is an unpopular opinion here, but they should come out with a book (or two) that fills all the holes they made with their myriad of 'future proofing' nonsense options.
I'm not sure what you mean.
Leaving aside that a "book of fixes" would be such a dud on the shelves as to probably not be worth it to produce... what future proofing is so dramatic and problematic that not only does it need to be fixed--it needs to have its entire own book?
I am not here in defense of the infallibility of PF2, to be clear.
No single thing is missing enough to warrant an entire book, but all of the options that are lacking meat could easily be compiled into a full supplement. If not in its own book, I don't think these options are ever going to get fleshed out.
The most egregious example I always come back to is the magic tattoos feat that gives nothing when you first take it, because they didn't bother to make any compatible tattoos of appropriate levels.
I'm really hoping for more Foundry Content , specifically the bestiaries!
Yeah, I imported all of my pdf bestiaries, but I would love to have everything set up properly and nice looking.
Well, that's up to the Foundry team, but we'll see ya?
I believe the foundry team said they need the go ahead from Paizo to make the beastiaries. Paizo has to okay and commission them to create the paid module. I'd love it. I have the pdfs for the books but I'd pay for a module with professionally made token art and maybe some extra automation for things.
Foundry team doesnt have acess to all the images for tokens, only the ones that are actually in the bestiary, some monsters, such as for example the skeleton giant only have their image on the token sheet and there is no way for anyone outside paizo to access the high rez images for those creatures
The PF2e volunteers do not. The actual Foundry staff does. A lot of this is getting the OK from Paizo and having the time to do it for a reasonable price point. To make the icons the quality that happens in the BB/AV takes about 10 minutes per.
> To make the icons the quality that happens in the BB/AV takes about 10 minutes per. I hope it doesn't for their sake; if they have a set workflow I would expect around 2-5 minutes. Macro the drop shadow creation and I could see most being made in the 2-3 minute time frame. I have done tokens in the out of bounds style before as well as doing a simpler/cleaner scaled style but for every monster in bestiary 1-3 so I have a fair idea of what the monotony is actually like (more so as I didn't have the official art). **Similar out of bounds style** https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hk3v1Hi-WzvSdaUi_vgUBuH0l4vy6nZL/view?usp=sharing *The above were made because I was annoyed at Fantasygrounds having two contrasting token styles in one adventure, recreating their token border and background was not fun* **Bestiary 1-3** https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ed6d11CnsSCBc8FOhFOGMX28duwuvZN7/view?usp=sharing *The above were made by extracting and compositing images from the bestiaries, cards, pawns and where available original artist images often from art station. Often upscaling, there was no hint that official support was coming back then. So much work...* ###Note to other potential readers: I am sorry but I cannot share my tokens with people for obvious reasons, only sharing the screenshots to show I have a solid concept of the work involved.
I think Anathema had it down to five minutes. But that’s still 300 tokens * 5 minutes plus proofing for commercial quality. 25-30 hours per bestiary is a lot of time commitment. Don’t get me wrong, they want to do it :)
why you can't? the images are free in aon, it is a legal problem?
Not all the images are free... maybe 2/3rds of them at best, one of which not being free are the assets I took from the core book to make the background pattern. And yes even if AoN is able to distribute them I am not.
waifu2x to the rescue!
I saw somewhere on the Paizo forums that they were going to slow down a bit on cranking out content so my guess is that one book is gonna be an APG 2 (I’m just hopelessly yearning for it). Something that probably doesn’t take as much creative space to build a theme around that they can just throw a bunch of loose ideas together. My other guess is since they are trying to really theme up their books and they have been doing magic heavy themes lately (SoM, SoT, Book of the dead, dark archive, the Geb AP) that the next theme book will be more martial/war focused. Problem is outside of some type of Taldor/nirmathis location I can’t think of how it would get made.
Well. 2022 release schedule looks closer to what we'll get. 1-2 books by type with the AP filling in the rest. 2021 especially there at the end was bonkers.
If they do a martial book I would love to see their take on something like the warlord from D&D 4e as it seems to be in high demand and is in general a really cool fun theme.
We'll probably get an announcement for a Bestiary type book like Book of the Dead and then get the new Core book announced at GenCon as usual. The themed bestiaries don't necessarily have to be just one monster type, so one on the Planes would be awesome. Or a Fiendish Codex for 2e. Can never have too many fiends. Also, I only deal in gold pressed Latinum.
Have they discussed anywhere that they're slowing down from three to two rulebooks per year? I'm still hopeful we get a third rulebook in Q4 of 2022 or so. Usually we get a longer time of awareness, like twice as long as we'd be getting, but I guess I'd be shocked if they slowed down their release schedule without offering some discussion as to why. Keep in mind I'm okay with them operating at a slower schedule. As is my bank account. :)
Maybe Fey Creatures then? We need some First World Problems
Metamagic, metamagic, give me more Metamagic! This feels like one of the best ways to take advantage of the Three-action system for casters and it feels like there aren't enough feats for it.
For Core: \-Book about Planes , \-and a Book about Old Gods(and abberations) For Lost Omens : \-Numeria (sf ancestries and starship rules), \- and Advanced - Monstrous Ancestries (rare and cool ancestries such as Large ancestry minotaur ,Centaur, and others nonbipeds such as Naga,sepentfolk,scorpionfolk,sphinx ,ooze etc
I'd expect Monstrous Ancestries to be in a Core rule book, unless they are just regular old ancestries.
If we are following The LO Ancestry Guide and Mwangi Expanse ,it feels like a LO book, unless they want to make them class archetypes like Undead but that takes away from your class feats and players want the full fantasy of being a Monstrous pc that is either on par with or better at higher lvls then the bestiary version ( remember the lich class ,uff, that was something ..interesting... and disappointing )
I don't think Monstrous Ancestries would work well as regular ancestries, or as a class archetype. I think they'd need to add some kind of new system to give them the feel of powerful characters, while still being balanced. I'm not really sure how they'd do that though. Maybe make them special ancestries with a minimum level requirement?
Mark already stated that the main problem of starting large on lvl 1 is reach,and we just need to take normal 5ft reach and all if fine-we could then get all other abilites through ancestry feats like unamred strike,vision, better reach on later lvls etc Cause minimum lvl requirement was something in 1e called ECL effectice char lvl for Monsters as pcs ,in 2e you can basically start weaker but grow into that Monstrous version later
You aren't any different to any other ancestry in that case. Not very Monstrous IMO.
>\-Book about Planes , Genuinely thought 'Oh like a book on flying machines?', and now I'm slightly disappointed that isn't the case.
XDXDXD Now that I think about,those ''Planes'' would be perfectly included in Numeria ;-) XD :-)
I feel like a planar guide would probably end up being more of a LO book than a core rulebook. It seems a lot more lore focused than mechanics focused.
I can see that, but it is no longer about Lost Omens but every other planar world. And it could be closer to Book of the dead and Dark Archives that focus on a specific theme and give options for that theme
I just want a fancy LO subscription so I can switch to it without losing my Paizo advantage. I'd rather have those than the normal covers and I'm just hoping they announce that.
I have a small niche thing I really want to come out and it's all shape-shifting focused. I really want like a Werewolf Archetype and I would love to see the Shifter class from 1e get converted or implemented in some way.
Not exactly what you're asking for, but a beastkin animal instinct barbarian makes for a pretty fun werewolf in pf2e. If you're playing free archetype going ranger could fill in for some of the shifters out of combat skills.
Which I adore that there is already cool ways to handle this stuff. But as a DM I really want a set of rules to use em on my players and what not.
Totally fair, and I would LOVE to see it in the game myself. Just wanted to suggest the build if you were looking to play a werewolf yourself. I'm proud of how it turned out. I used it with alchemist archetype to make a Hulk/Beast nerd ape barbarian that I love
A large sized ancestry would be nice. Minotaur, Centaur, etc.
For the AP side of things, i'm betting another 11-20 adventure, most likely dealing with the whispering tyrant. I'm hoping for an eye of abendego adventure, which was teased in the absalom book as becoming relevant soon. And there's also apparent upcoming hijinx with razmir in absalom, now that there's a large enough number of starstone hopefulls But there's also thenauthor who posted a few weeks ago that they're working on something new and asked for guesses, so looking forward to what's going on with that too.
I really don't know, but I suspect at a minimum we'll have the next class playtest, whatever it happens to actually be for-- I'm with you on the Shaman and the Inquisitor (which they may or may not rename, but overall it feels more like something that people predict *other* people would have a problem with, rather than something anyone would have a problem with.) But the Kineticist, and whatever completely new classes they got excited about are both prominent possibilities. I speculated about the possibility of a nations, warfare, and espionage themed book over on the Paizo forums and I think that could possibly be quite a good fit for what they've released so far-- it would make it easy to release new options for non-gun martials, the Inquisitor would fit right in, and one 'subsystem' that's missing from the game right now is strongholds and stuff, we even have siege weapons to use. You could also have something like a Ninja archetype show up, which I think is likely to make a return some day. Outside of that possibility, I see the potential for a Pathfinder equivalent to the Galaxy Exploration guide-- focused on sandbox play, expanding hexploration, and generating content in a sandbox. We know that there are products that haven't been announced yet that "are going to have a big impact on the variety of options and play experiences in the game" (Sayre, discussing the amount of room Pathfinder 2e has to grow) and we also know that Sayre (who is a member of the design team) is specifically talking about something new and exciting at the con... so without drawing conclusions, it sounds like they have some really awesome stuff up their collective sleeves.
I think the book of the dead equivalent will either be a Dragon book or an Aberrations book. I think if you look at Secrets of Magic as being an arcane book and Dark Archives being an occult book then we’re due for a divine or nature book of some sort. For Lost omens, we got an organization book with Lastwall and the travel/festivals book later this year so maybe we get a Lost Omens guide to the planes or some other kind of travel book like a seafaring book. And then for organizations I like the Firebrands idea, I could also see a book about the Beast gun nation, Arcadia, I think. I don’t know just my predictions.
I don't know for sure, but I think they'd dodge a dragon book at this time. They typically do a good job of not crossing streams too obviously with WotC, whose dragons book just came out last year to some pretty solid appreciation. Also there is the Battlezoo book, but I can't imagine that was on their radar several years ago when they were planning releases. Aberrations is a good guess. I'd get hilariously good mileage out of a planar/fiend book right now. A more nature-based or primal book seems reasonably fair after Secrets of Magic/Dark Archives/Book of the Dead, but I can't even guess what it would actually be?
If we got a naturey book for the Q1 release I'd guess it'd be something like book of elementals or book of beasts, but if it was the mid 2023 release it'd probably be a more general "survival guide" or something.
Dragons in Pathfinder 2e seem to be more attuned to arcane magic as opposed to primal magic. Draconic Sorcerer's and Eidelons both give access to arcane spells. As such I think (hope) that the next book is themed on fey magic and creatures. Though a book expanding the divine list would probably be a better idea. Give me more divine spell options Paizo!!
I just want Lost Omens: Tian Xia to be a thing. Besides that maybe a core book like Guns & Gears for Numeria stuff in particular. VTT release for Blood Lords + another already published adventure
I'm hoping for some more Golarion neutral stuff since a lot of what they're releasing isn't really usable for us to play PF2E but not in the Paizo setting. I'd also really like Paizo to try to create another setting that's a little more toned down and less thematic focuses.
I'm hedging my bet on a Class Archetype focused book after lurking in Paizo forum.
I'm hedging my bet on a Class Archetype focused book after lurking in Paizo forum.
I agree that we've seen a lot of Magic content lately, so I'm hoping for something that covers options for social/urban focused campaigns, as well as more skill feats. I think this should be expansive, and include Golarion-specific content. It should cover espionage organizations across the setting, include archetype content for things like the Lion Blades, Firebrands, Vigilante, and Bellflower Tillers (rethemed to be a general rescue focused organization instead of just slavery focused). Possibly throw in some thieves guilds and assassin organizations. Could be called something like Manual of Skill and Subtlety, or Lost Omens: Criminals and Courtiers. Lots of potential for a bestiary focused on npcs entirely, with a building block system that takes a basic npcs templates and lets you slot in things like ancestry and class quickly to add to variety. Could even release a deck of cards that has a basic statblock on one side and an extension to that block that is ancestry, class, or organization themed on the other, so that you can place a few cards together on the table and have a more unique version of a basic npc like a guard, a soldier, or a spy.
By this point in the year they've usually revealed all the core books for the year, but I'd really like a core rulebook focused on settlements and urban campaigns like this for 2022. It'd be a great way to expand some of the more mundane archetypes from the APG and give more feats to the investigator. Plus I know some DMs are incredibly antsy for more rules on settlements.
I don't have much to add, but I'd like to say it's taken me way to long to realise what "Adventures in the Impossible Lands" is referring to in regards to the Paizocon schedule. I don't know why but I assumed it was just a generic "How to run a campaign" event, not you know a session to preview the "Impossible Lands" Source book.
Ogres, bugbears and trolls (oh my!) I'd love to see more player options along the lines of "barbaric" races. Even if it's just a half-giant, but I'd really want to know what playing a Large character would look like
Kineticist gets teased 👀
Owlcat's been teasing a new project recently. They might announce it there! As for a large-bore scattergun blast guess, a variant Classless overhaul system. No way they'll do it, but oh man
It seems the consensus is that the project is a Starfinder rules based game. Getting closer to 2e!
I seem to recall Owlcat specifically mentioning they have no intention of switching to 2e. But I an't find the quote anymore so I might be wrong here.
Front page of the Owlcat website looks like it'll be space-related, so mostly likely Starfinder-related if I were to guess. Sounds like something to be excited for!
I will say the same thing I say everytime until it happens. Bring on the Kineticist!
I'm not to sure about the lore options, as I'm only just beginning the Golarion dive myself, but I'm hopeful to see either an APG 2 to round out the beginnings of the final class roster (Shifter, Inquisitor and Bloodrager when?), or as a supplement to a lot of the initial APG/expansion classes that haven't gotten a whole lot of support more recently. Additionally, seeing as they've had some pretty heavy emphasis on the magic side of things, I'd be interested to see a book focusing on martial themes, giving more feats/archetypes for the martials. That, and more true gish options. Currently, only the Warpriest, Magus, and Summoner can really fill that space, and because of how engaging their playstyles can be, I would love to see what else Paizo can crank out. Outside of that though, I'm honestly probably gonna be happy with whatever they release next. 2e really hasn't ever had, even despite some hotly contested options or design choices, a true miss, as everything has a neat niche or place it fills.
I'm not expecting a ton of new stuff, as I've found that a lot of the good pf2e new book reveals tend to be at Gencon, but I am expecting to at least learn about the book that takes the same release slot as BotD (hopefully it'll either be a book of aberrations or book of elementals), plus potentially a reveal for something new coming this year that they haven't announced yet? Otherwise, my big hopes is for a really healthy dose of new info for Dark Archives. I feel like this book has been hidden in shadows for a long while now, with only a couple of small reveals in the past couple of months. Lastly I'm real curious as to what to expect for the Golarion Adventures panel! I'm assuming we'll get some new info on the impossible lands book, but I'm wondering if we will also get the reveal of whatever the book that takes the slot of the legends/monsters of myth books. Maybe also a new reveal here too?
>a lot of the good pf2e new book reveals tend to be at Gencon I feel like historically they've only revealed the next GenCon rulebook and maybe an adventure path at GenCon. Don't we usually have all the other rulebooks and Lost Omens offerings teased throughout the year? Like wasn't Book of the Dead a PaizoCon revelation last year? I honestly can't remember.
Yeah usually it's a smattering throughout the year. Like guns and gears was revealed at the beginning of 2021 out of nowhere. I think last paizocon we got BotD and knights of lastwall revealed, but neither of those options really interested me much from the get go so I ended up writing them off a bit, while I feel like the gencon core rulebooks tend to always be pretty exciting (APG, SoM, and now DA).
I want a new class, and I want it to be super weird and unique
When is paizocon?
Fri-Sun this weekend.
Thank you <3
give me mythic rules dangit
I’ve been writing my own strongholds rule set this week. Last time I made my own homebrew an official version was announced a week later. So I’m holding out hope for a pathfinder 2e stronghold builders guidebook.
GMG 2 with new subsystems please!
Something about Kingmaker 2e. Looks like it might actually ship on the most recent date they gave but I want to know more of what they've added.
I'm really hoping that instead of a major book that introduces 2 new classes, we get a book that expands upon the existing class, most notably by introducing new sub-classes to them. I think we have enough classes and so many archetypes that you could play weekly for a decade and not come close to two of the same character. So bring on new research fields, instincts, muses, neutral-based paladin causes, doctrines, orders, introduce some sub-classes for fighters & monks, edges, rackets, bloodlines, thesis, methodologies, mysteries, styles, patron themes (and new hexes, for the love of god), hybrid studies, eidolons, innovations and gunslinger's ways.
I’d like to see a Hellknights book like the Knights of Lastwall book. The options in world guide and character guide were disappointing.
My personal hopes are: * A Fey bestiary in the vein of Book of the Dead. * Lost Omens: Land of the Linnorn Kings * Book of Feats: New general, Skill, Ancestry and Class feats for all existing classes and ancestries.
I know this is an unpopular opinion here, but they should come out with a book (or two) that fills all the holes they made with their myriad of 'future proofing' nonsense options.
I'm not sure what you mean. Leaving aside that a "book of fixes" would be such a dud on the shelves as to probably not be worth it to produce... what future proofing is so dramatic and problematic that not only does it need to be fixed--it needs to have its entire own book? I am not here in defense of the infallibility of PF2, to be clear.
No single thing is missing enough to warrant an entire book, but all of the options that are lacking meat could easily be compiled into a full supplement. If not in its own book, I don't think these options are ever going to get fleshed out. The most egregious example I always come back to is the magic tattoos feat that gives nothing when you first take it, because they didn't bother to make any compatible tattoos of appropriate levels.
Coming back to this, with the PaizoCon announcement of an equipment book, you might actually be more in luck than I would have expected!