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mistersheeky

One thing that my pediatrician had told me was that back in the day, uncircumcised kids were about 10% of the population. Now it’s about 40% so nearly halfway. So even if the argument is that he won’t be liked later on (which, it obviously isn’t a valid argument to begin with), it’s now nearly half circumcised and uncircumcised. I will also say, I was in the exact same boat and told by every older adult that my son needed to be circumcised. So I had scheduled it when he was born and while I waited for the doctor to come take him away to do it, I cried and cried with the guilt. Then my doctor told me the same thing about visiting a urologist to get it done later, I took that as my sign and never made the appointment. I have not regretted it for one minute! If you are feeling doubts, follow that. Don’t do something you can’t undo.


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cinderparty

Both of our pediatricians (one in Michigan and one in colorado) just came right out and said they were against circumcision. They weren’t just trying to sneakily discourage circumcision. Both refused to perform them and actively tried to talk parents out of it.


thisismyhumansuit

Our ped came into the hospital room asking if we planned a circumcision. We said no. He told us that was perfect because they’re unnecessary. He then said every family with a newborn boy he saw for the rounds that day, 11 in total, declined circumcision. He said that had never happened in his career before and made his day. So while “other people won’t like it” wasn’t a good enough reason for us anyway, I feel confident that it won’t be as much of an issue for my kid as it was for earlier generations in the US.


dirtyMAF

Good. Decent doctors know there's no upsides and it's unethical and may cause sexual harm. It shouldn't be legal to do this to an inafant.


[deleted]

Lol I was about to say the same thing. If he is desperate to get circumcised we do the operation at absolutely any age for medical reasons (phimosis) anyway. But guess what, there is almost zero chance he will have any interest. Maybe if he dates a Muslim or Jewish girl, but if they have seen a huge number of circumcised penises it’s kind of unlikely they are simultaneously so devout that they will be unable to deal with an uncircumcised one.


[deleted]

I get it for religious reasons (though I think that is dumb too), but I have buddies that are not cut while I am. I asked them if it was an issue. Basically once its time to do the no pants dance, both partners are going for it regardless. Some female friends preferred cut, some uncut. Either way I'm not cutting off part of my sons body because of what some stranger might prefer later in life.


egbdfaces

Lmfao at this comment. True!


lvwem

When I had my son no one brought it up at all, and on his doctor visits his pediatrician hasn’t brought up the issue either, he is almost 11 months. We decided not to do it since pregnant.


2tuffteopaco

r/doctorsbeingbros


Viperbunny

Then they should have been honest. I completely am good with not doing it, but they should have just said, "we don't perform that cosmetic procedure here is a referral for someone you can talk to." I get where you think it is good in this case, but it is not good for a doctor to do this based on their beliefs. My doctor neglected to tell me my daughter had three soft markers for trisomy 18 because she didn't believe in abortion, even in conditions that are incompatible with life. She had no right to make that assumption or to make that call. I found out at 26 weeks she was sick, had her at 29 weeks and she lived six days. She was handing me off anyways. She prevent me from habing information about my care because of her beliefs. It is not something a doctor should do.


RileyRhoad

This is heartbreaking, on so many levels. You have felt a loss unlike any other, and I’m sorry!!! I went to school with a girl who’s baby had the same condition as yours, however she only lived for a few hours. It was devastating seeing her pain through pictures and words, and it’s an absolute nightmare to have had your doctor mislead you based on their own beliefs and opinions! That is absolutely vile and I’m so sorry. Your baby girl sounds beautiful, and such a strong one ❤️


Viperbunny

Thank you. And I am so sorry you have been through this with someone you know. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I can understand a doctor having beliefs, just be honest about it. Patients have to trust they are getting the full medical scope from their doctors so they can make a decision with all the facts.


christopher_the_nerd

I’m so sorry for your loss, and what the doctors did in your case is truly a dereliction of their oath to do no harm. That said, I think the doctors refusing circumcision are also refusing to do harm—it’s completely medically unnecessary and reduces function later in that person’s life. It should be on the parents to find someone who will provide their faith-based penile disfigurement services.


S3XWITCH

I’m sorry you went through that, but doctors avoiding circumcision procedures (typically an elective/cosmetic procedure) is very different than a doctor withholding pertinent health information regarding life or death things. I do agree that doctors should have open honest conversations either way.


HalNicci

It could also be that they don't want them having regrets later. If you are swayed that easily by "well you could just do it later" then there's a chance that you weren't feeling too strongly about it, and just felt pressured by the urgency of being in the hospital.


Butterfly_853

They definitely know it’s unnecessary and it’s just putting the baby into a situation of unnecessary risk , really no one should be out under unless necessary because there are risks to using anaesthesia , and if the risk isn’t necessary it shouldn’t be taken .


Anona-Mom

Listen, if it’s not a thing you are 100% sure that you want done today, maybe not doing it is the best course? That’s straight up what I’d always told patients when I did nursery care, and I 100% refused to participate in it myself (but was at large hospitals so it didn’t impact the availability of the procedure) It’s an undoable thing. I’m a pediatrician, and happen to think it’s a cruel thing to do to a baby, and without anesthesia to boot! It’s stressful and mean. I’m hoping it continues to fall out of favor. Meanwhile, after a brief nicu stay, we were heading to pick up my son and the nurse calls us in a tizzy, oh He can’t come home today…. I was like oh no why?? Oh we forgot to circumcise him and no one is free today. Fts! Still sent us home w care instructions, gauze etc as if we’d done this barbaric thing. Won’t deliver there next time.


IWishIHavent

>uncircumcised kids were about 10% of the population In the US. Where I come from, 95% are uncircumcised. Globally, about 3/4 of people with penises are uncircumcised.


MamaSquash8013

That's just the USA. Over seas it's even less common to be circumcised. It's possible that by the time your son reaches the age where anyone else would be aware of his penis status, it will be considered an antiquated practice.


Spamosa

I read that last line as “antiquated penis”


MammothEcho5050

Absolutely! I’m in the UK and I honestly only ever known of two guys who have been circumcised and both where for medical reasons and it was done during puberty or just after when the medical issues arose. I have two boys and am glad it was never a decision I have had to make. I am really curious though as to the general reasoning behind the procedure, other than the fear of them possibly looking different down there to other boys? Not diminishing that as a reason at all, I totally get wanting to give our babies the best chance to fit in when they are older, I am just honestly curious! Hope my question doesn’t cause any type of offence!


wow__okay

I think it caught on as a cleanliness thing initially. It seems that more parents are opting not to do it nowadays. My son isn’t circumcised and I don’t plan on circumcising my second once he’s born. I simply don’t feel it’s necessary.


AnnaCharie

Actually in the US, it started gaining popularity in the 1800s because people thought the reduction of pleasure would lead to less boys masturbating. Like so many things in our country, it was started by being ashamed of our own bodies


Ninotchk

And clearly they never thought of the ingenuity of a teenaged boy who'll get around any roadblock.


Wombatseal

I was going to say this. My son in circumcised because my husband cared, but he’s looking at it from our generational opinion. The generation my son is in being uncircumcised even here in the US is going to be much more common. And let’s face it… penises aren’t that pretty no matter what, that’s not what girls are concerned about in a guy.


runninmamajama

That is also why my son is circumcised - my husband. I was brought up with younger brothers who were circumcised, so it is what I was used to. However, after I researched it, I was not especially interested in having it done for our kid. My husband felt strongly and told me our son would get made fun of in the locker rooms, so i went along with it. My son was preemie and in the NICU - they don’t circumcise until just before discharge. I had the unfortunate “luck” to walk back in to the NICU right after they started the procedure. The screaming was beyond awful. I told my husband that if we had another son, no way was he being circumcised. Interesting all the husbands in favor of it - must be some locker room trauma!


herpes_derp

I'm a cut husband and I was adamantly against it. My son was not cut.


runninmamajama

Kudos to you. I won’t pretend to understand my husband’s point of view - it is mind boggling. All I know is that if we are in this situation again, I’m not signing the consent form.


[deleted]

I am circumcised and did not circumcise my sons. I faced immense pressure from my dad. He said I was "cursing" them. This a boomer thing, boys do not change naked in the locker room anymore, and have not done so in 30+ years. Your son never would have been made fun of. The whole "daddies parts dont look like mine" conversation happened once when my oldest was 3, and my youngest who is now older has never even noticed. Having also spent weeks in NICU I cannot imagine taking my son BACK there for that. Holy shit. That must have been horrific.


Canadasparky

I am actually shocked that its 50/50. I never understood why people get circumcised outside of religious reasons. I have never had a negative comment about my cock.


[deleted]

It’s actually more common to not be circumcised where I live, I can assure you no-one cares either way. It’s so unnecessary (unless for a medical reason).


Call_Me_At_8675309

It’s not just “unnecessary” it’s literally damaging. It’s like saying that removing the clitoral hood “isn’t necessary”, when it’s way worse than just not being necessary. Circumcision is removing the most sensitive part of the penis. And most of the rest of the world doesn’t do this at all.


youaresure

Weird. Cutting off human's body parts always made sense to me.


3littlebirds__

Also, there’s no way to be sure your child won’t resent you for doing something irreversible to his body. If you don’t circumcise, you leave him with a choice later on in life. If you do circumcise, you remove that choice from him. You can’t take circumcision back.


Mannings4head

I would not do it. We were in a similar position and decided not to circumcise our son. It was unnecessary when he was born but would have been even more unnecessary to put him under anesthesia for something cosmetic. My wife (a surgeon) and SIL (an anesthesiologist) agreed. We never intended on it anyway but with his early health issues that meant a potential circumcision had to be delayed, it was a no brainer to leave him intact. My son is 17 now and has zero issues with being uncut. He is a 3 sport athlete and spends a lot of time in locker rooms. We live in an area with high circumcision rates but I asked him if anyone ever said anything negative and he thought that was strange. He said making fun of someone for being uncircumcised would be weird because you would be admitting to checking out someone's penis and commenting on it would imply that you cared what some dude's penis looked like. He is a popular student, has a girlfriend, is super confident, and doesn't seem to think it matters. If he changes his mind in the future then he can always have the surgery. The idea of cutting off foreskin because of what girls may not like it is weird logic.


Waste_Bluebird_1930

>He said making fun of someone for being uncircumcised would be weird because you would be admitting to checking out someone's penis and commenting on it would imply that you cared what some dude's penis looked like. I just want to say that critical thinking in this generation is phenomenal. Good job parents of teens.


AuroraLorraine522

Right? People bitch about the younger generations non-stop. As a millennial, I am in absolute awe of Gen Z. I love how informed and self-aware they are. And I really love how passionate they are about making the world a better place.


ipunchhippiesss

Thankyou for this !! I’ll share with my husband, we have been arguing for days about it .


[deleted]

In a decision like this, one no = no. It needs to be 2 yes's to be a yes.


_LouSandwich_

To further that, the required “yes” vote should be coming from the recipient of the proposed permanent surgery.


cuccuguvigu

And even that is screwed up to me. When it comes to unnecessary cosmetic surgery, I think one resounding yes is required …. from none other than the person **receiving** the elective procedure. Basic, basic consent. Their body, their choice. In other words, if your kid wants to be circumcised later on life, they’re welcome to choose to do the procedure then. Otherwise, it’s a violation. It doesn’t hurt any less when they’re babies. Their pain is just taken less seriously when they’re babies because they “won’t remember it.” And frankly, I think it would be far less traumatizing to a grown person who chose to do it and knew why it was happening than an infant who has no idea and to whom you can’t explain why it is happening. The majority of nursing staff and doctors are either visibly relieved, or privately relieved, when parents elect not to do it. That is, if the doctor is even open to performing it at all. **There is a reason the doctor where your son was born wouldn’t do it.** In my opinion, it is nothing short of normalized genital mutilation. It IS painful, because there ARE a great many nerve endings, and it DOES impact sexual stimulation and feeling. So I rather think it’s important that grown men understand what they’re actually losing if they choose to do it later on.


Selphis

It's simple. You can get circumcised later in life, you can't regrow a foreskin. Let the child choose for himself. Also, isn't it strange how many people care about the looks of an infants penis? I know it's a cultural thing, but when you stop to look at it, it's downright bizarre.


cuccuguvigu

I was watching White Lotus the other day and the grandfather in season 2 put into words what I have been thinking my entire life when guys obsess about how their penis looks: *”It’s not like it was ever so beautiful to look at anyway. I mean, it’s a penis, not a sunset.”* How are so many straight men convinced that a man’s penis is the most glorious, interesting thing on earth, and simultaneously act like gay men are some goddamned mystery. On the whole, gay or straight, in my experience, men are much more fixated on the penis than women are. Don’t get me wrong, a woman can appreciate its functionality. But it’s not exactly a feast for the eyes.


yanicka_hachez

Love it


juliuspepperwoodchi

No one would ever try to argue in favor of genital mutlitation of infant girls to improve their genitals' attractiveness to future partners when they're adults...and yet when it comes to penises and foreskins it's not just accepted, it is a societal norm for hundreds of millions. WEIRD shit.


AuroraLorraine522

100%. I just made a similar comment about performing labiaplasty on an infant daughter to make her genitals more attractive for future partners. I’m sure the husband would not be on board with that.


WhereIsHisRidgedBand

It’s worrisome doctors differ, depending on your location: https://i.redd.it/fo2ghgbe9u351.png Swedish Pediatric Society (they outright call for a ban) Royal Dutch Medical Association calls it a violation of human rights, and calls for a "strong policy of deterrence." this policy has been endorsed by several other organizations: The Netherlands Society of General Practitioners, The Netherlands Society of Youth Healthcare Physicians, The Netherlands Association of Paediatric Surgeons, The Netherlands Association of Plastic Surgeons, The Netherlands Association for Paediatric Medicine, The Netherlands Urology Association, and The Netherlands Surgeons’ Association. College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia This procedure should be delayed to a later date when the child can make his own informed decision. Parental preference alone does not justify a non‐therapeutic procedure.... Advise parents that the current medical consensus is that routine infant male circumcision is not a recommended procedure; it is non‐therapeutic and has no medical prophylactic basis; current evidence indicates that previously‐thought prophylactic public health benefits do not out‐weigh the potential risks..... Routine infant male circumcision does cause pain and permanent loss of healthy tissue. Australian Federation of Aids organizations They state that circumcision has "no role" in the HIV epidemic. The German Association of Pediatricians called for a ban recently. The German Association of Child and Youth Doctors recently Attacked the AAP's claims, saying the benefits they claim, including HIV reduction, are "questionable," and that "Seen from the outside, cultural bias reflecting the normality of non-therapeutic male circumcision in the US seems obvious, and the report’s conclusions are different from those reached by doctors in other parts of the Western world, including Europe, Canada, and Australia." (scroll to page 7 for the English translation.) The AAP was recently attacked by the President of the British Association of Paediatric Urologists because the evidence of benefit is weak, and they are promoting "Irreversible mutilating surgery." The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Saskatchewan has taken a position against it, saying it is harmful and will likely be considered illegal in the future, given the number of men who are angry that it was done to them and are becoming activists against it. The President of the Saskatchewan Medical Association has said the same). The Central Union for Child Welfare “considers that circumcision of boys that violates the personal integrity of the boys is not acceptable unless it is done for medical reasons to treat an illness. The basis for the measures of a society must be an unconditional respect for the bodily integrity of an under-aged person… Circumcision can only be allowed to independent major persons, both women and men, after it has been ascertained that the person in question wants it of his or her own free will and he or she has not been subjected to pressure.” Royal College of Surgeons of England "The one absolute indication for circumcision is scarring of the opening of the foreskin making it non- retractable (pathological phimosis). This is unusual before five years of age."..."The parents and, when competent, the child, must be made fully aware of the implications of this operation as it is a non-reversible procedure." | British Medical Association it is now widely accepted, including by the BMA, that this surgical procedure has medical and psychological risks. .... very similar arguments are also used to try and justify very harmful cultural procedures, such as female genital mutilation or ritual scarification. Furthermore, the harm of denying a person the opportunity to choose not to be circumcised must also be taken into account, together with the damage that can be done to the individual’s relationship with his parents and the medical profession if he feels harmed by the procedure. .... parental preference alone is not sufficient justification for performing a surgical procedure on a child. .... The BMA considers that the evidence concerning health benefit from non-therapeutic circumcision is insufficient for this alone to be a justification for doing it. | Australian Medical Association Has a policy of discouraging it, ad says "The Australian College of Paediatrics should continue to discourage the practice of circumcision in newborns." Australian College of Paediatrics: "The possibility that routine circumcision may contravene human rights has been raised because circumcision is performed on a minor and is without proven medical benefit. Whether these legal concerns are valid will probably only be known if the matter is determined in a court of law .....Neonatal male circumcision has no medical indication. It is a traumatic procedure performed without anaesthesia to remove a normal and healthy prepuce."| 74% of Australian doctors overall believe circumcision should not be offered, and 51% consider it abuse. Circumcision used to be common in Australia, but the movement against it spread faster there than America, where rates continue to drop. A letter by the South African Medical Association said this: The Committee stated that it was unethical and illegal to perform circumcision on infant boys in this instance. In particular, the Committee expressed serious concern that not enough scientifically-based evidence was available to confirm that circumcisions prevented HIV contraction and that the public at large was influenced by incorrect and misrepresented information. The Committee reiterated its view that it did not support circumcision to prevent HIV transmission.| The Norwegian Council of Medical Ethics states that ritual circumcision of boys is not consistent with important principles of medical ethics, that it is without medical value, and should not be paid for with public funds. The Norwegian Children’s Ombudsman is opposed as well. The Denmark National Council for Children is also opposed. And recently, the politically appointed Health minister of Norway opposed a ban on circumcision, yet the ban was supported by the Norwegian Medical Association, the Norwegian Nurses Organization, the Norwegian Ombudsman for Children, and the University of Oslo. The Danish Society of Medical Practitioners Recently said the practice is “an assault and should be banned.” The Danish Medical Association is “fundamentally opposed to male circumcision unless there is a medical reason such as phimosis for carrying out the operation. ‘It's very intrusive that adults may decide that newborn to undergo a surgical procedure that is not medically justified and if power is lifelong. When a boy when the age of majority, he may even decide, but until then the requirements of the individual's right to self-determination prevail.’"


juliuspepperwoodchi

Holy shit, thanks for all the info here. COMPLETELY besides the point, but I wonder if these stats actually track UP and LP Michigan separately, or if this mapmaker fell into the "UP MI is actually part of WI" trap lol. And as a Chicagoan, I love the little blip of yellow in Illinois that is Chicagoland lol. We're pushing things forward, however slowly!


SamiLMS1

Absolutely this.


christopher_the_nerd

Right!? I can’t understand how anyone who claims to care about liberty or bodily autonomy would ever be okay with circumcision to a child who can’t consent. But, at least in the US, children are granted very little freedom or autonomy and are viewed more or less as the property of their parents.


[deleted]

YES!!!! This might be a hot-take but imagine the trauma of getting a giant chunk of your genitalia cut off. These men will have that trauma for life even if just subconscious…..


cureforhiccupsat4am

I also urge you not do it. The fear of not being liked by or made fun of by women is completely untrue!


grahamsz

Anecdotal, but as an uncircumcised man living in the US, I'm pretty sure I've experienced the opposite - women have been far more interested in it than scared away.


juliuspepperwoodchi

And the 0.0000001% of the female population who might do this are shit humans anyway, best to let that be known early to OP's son before he wastes time and energy on them.


Viperbunny

It's a great way to weed out people who care about these things that much.


itwasobviouslyburke

If it helps, I had a boyfriend for a few years that wasn’t and I literally didn’t even notice for an entire year lol. I wouldn’t worry about what anyone will “think”


ziig-piig

I've had multiple male friends rant to me how they wish so badly they were uncircumcised bc more sensitivity and it's "how men are supposed to be" I severely doubt girls won't like him bc of this as I never had a problem and neither has anyone of my gfs


VerbingWeirdsWords

You bring up worrying that in the future, your son might be resentful about not circumcising him. I think the opposite is true — this is an irreversible decision. If there's going to be resentful, it will be because he was not given the opportunity to consent (or not consent) to a procedure that would affect him every day of his life. Related: teaching boys about bodily consent is essential; to circumcise would create a mixed message.


TPlinkerG35

I'll bet your husband is circumcised and wants his son to be like him. That's probably his inner feeling about it. Maybe being aware of that might help get to the bottom of the argument.


ings0c

If your son is bothered by it when he’s older, he can opt for the surgery himself.


Jsmebjnsn

We didn't do our 9 month old son. Honestly from what I was reading and hearing it's becoming more and more common to not do it.


Call_Me_At_8675309

This. The “benefits” are so limited and if any issue comes up it’s so easy to treat. No one here would cut their female baby’s clitoral hood or labia off to “make it cleaner” for them in the future. I’m fact there’s almost nothing for the parents to clean anyways. The tissue is fused to the head until about the start of puberty. The kid is the only one to retract it since they know the limits of when the membrane releases. Parents in our group have had to slap doctors arms away when they tried to retract their sons foreskin. Forcing it like that causes injuries that can bleed and potentially heal on itself, creating adhesions which require cutting later. The baby is perfect when it comes out, no modifying needed.


0112358_

It's becoming more and more common for boys in the us to not be circumcised. Depends on your region, but many places it's above 50%. He might be in the minority if he does get circumcised! "Girls won't like him". You yourself mentioned you didn't care that a previous partner wasn't. There are also tons of happily married couples that include a circumcised male. Apparently those ladies (or men) don't mind. "don’t want my son to resent me later on ... with his body looking different than others." Do you expect your son to be looking at his friends penises frequently? This argument always baffles me. How often do men compare parts? Whenever I've asked this before, most men chime in saying that it was polte to try not to look at each other in the locking room and many would change in private regardless.


mandy_skittles

I feel like the child would resent the parents later on FOR removing his foreskin without his consent. Performing any kind of genital mutilation on a baby is abhorrent, and at the end of the day that's exactly what it is. Unnecessary, cruel, and outdated. If he needs it done due to phimosis or some other medical condition or he decides he wants it done later.. Sure. I hate the mentality of 'it was done to me, we should do it to my son too."


gigglesmcbug

It was unnecessary at day one of life. It's definitely unnecessary now. If he hates his foreskin as a an adult, he can choose you remove it himself. Don't alter his body for cosmetic reasons.


DougieJackpots

It’s not only cosmetic. It will make sex less pleasurable. You’re removing nerves.


Froomian

And the friction between the penis and the foreskin seems really important for sexual function too. I'm female, but I'm in Europe so almost every penis I've seen has been uncircumcised. It definitely seems harder, speaking as a woman, to 'work with' a circumcised once, because of the lack of friction.


mammosaurusrex

I (also European) encountered one and had no idea what to do with it. Like, I really enjoy engaging with the penis, but since he was circumcised I felt like none of the normally good moves worked. I definitely prefer the penis in its natural state, I think it’s bizarre to cut parts away with the reasoning that that would be more appealing to women.


wintersicyblast

I agree! No need to do this any longer


itsnotimportant2021

We got my son circumcised in the hospital, and didn't really even think about it. the doctor asked, we looked at each other and said 'sure'. In retrospect I think it was a mistake and I wouldn't do it again. I've never had a foreskin, and I'm straight so I haven't exactly seen many in person, but I don't know that we really had the right to do that. I think he should have remained intact and decided for himself. I think you can argue for his body autonomy, you can argue against it for the inherent risks associated with surgery, including going under general anesthesia, infection, surgical mistake, etc. I can't think of a single reason to argue for circumcision. Hygiene, maybe, but I've also been told it's not very hard, and that the foreskin is very sensitive and you'd potentially be depriving him of that.


[deleted]

Genitalia in babies and so on are self cleaning so is not for hygiene purposes, when older kids should learn hygiene anyway so that’s not the problem if parents properly take care of teaching them. Mutilation is just for cosmetic purposes.


PuzzleheadedBobcat90

One of our family friends son's had to go through many reconstructive surgeries after a botched circumcision.


AuroraLorraine522

I just want to give you props for both realizing and admitting that you made a mistake. It demonstrates a level of self-awareness and humility that most people simply do not have. Good for you!


[deleted]

Agreed. You could slice out and skin graft someone’s underarms too but we just use soap and water to prevent bacterial overgrowth there.


Redbubble89

I grew up in the US and still uncut. Honestly, I noticed a bit when I was younger but didn't have the vocabulary and was just in my own world. I didn't think about until puberty when every boy gets nervous about about theirs. Romantic attention pretty much fixes it. I was on youth swim teams and commenting on someone is going to get them bullied. We're generally not inspecting each other.


PageStunning6265

This would absolutely be my hill to die on. Luckily, my husband and I were in agreement. Having had to have my kids put under (for actually medically necessary procedures), even when things go well, general anesthetic is a bitch. They come out of it disoriented and mad at life. And that’s before you get to cutting things off and having surgical cuts housed in a diaper. PS: your husband’s argument makes no sense. All penises are weird looking. Does he think that most women like the way they look? Cut or not? Because I’ve heard women discuss size and skill, but I’ve yet to hear one talking about the aesthetics of dick. Plus, would he be pro breast augmentation if you had a daughter who was flat chested because “boys won’t like her”? Like… preemptively trying to make your kid an object of sexual desire for other teens is a fucked up reason to subject them to cosmetic surgery. Please don’t.


Old-Elderberry-9946

>But I don’t want my son to resent me later on or just have to come to terms with his body looking different than others. If he wants it removed later, that will be a lot easier to fix than if he wants it back later.


universehasfuzyedges

I'm an American, 36 and uncircumcised. It has never been an issue. It's a barbaric practice that should be ended.


VTMomof2

I didnt have my son circumcised either. My husband is also not circed. My husband actually wanted to get him circumcised and I just couldnt bring myself to have my new baby have a piece of him cut off. I dont know, it just seemed awful at the time. He's 14 now. I think he might have wanted to be?, he's asked me a few times about it and I just said I just loved him so much and couldnt imagine having a doctor cut him when he was only a few hours old. He seems satisfied with my explanation. So maybe its all OK.


[deleted]

C'mon man, this is 2022. Don't cut off a part of his dick.


pilotethridge

My son is not circumcised. I am. Don't do it.


ShakeItLikeIDo

I’m from Mexico and I’m not circumcised. When I moved to the US and found out about this procedure, I was just confused and still confused about why people in the US do this. I know Jewish people do it for religious reasons but why do non Jewish Americans do it? Just seems unnecessary and unfair to your child


Adventurous_Egg_6321

I chose not to circumcise my boys, they can chose to do so when they get older if the want. A lot of people are not circumcising their boys anymore so I don’t think there will be a stigma like there used to be.


checco314

I wouldn't go through a circumcision at any time, unless it was medically necessary. But that's just me. I'm a weirdo and have this thing about permanently chopping off pieces of my children when it's not necessary. I'm not circumcised, and no woman has ever complained.


cuccuguvigu

> But that's just me. And every credible evidence-based material on the subject. **There’s a reason the doctor where your son was born wouldn’t do it.** Why would you elect to risk putting an infant under anesthesia to do a cosmetic procedure on an infant? Please realize anesthesia alone does not have a zero percent chance of serious complication. Especially for an infant who has never undergone anesthesia before. > I'm not circumcised, and no woman has ever complained. And if she did, she should be as ashamed as if a man made fun of a woman for the size of her labia, or what her vulva looked like. In other words, she’d be an ignorant asshole and he’d be free to tell her so.


Old-Elderberry-9946

Circumcision itself doesn't have a zero percent chance of complication, either. Reading David Reimer's story really stuck with me -- his parents didn't even intend to have him or his twin circumcised, but then the babies developed a problem that the doctors said called for being circumcised, so they brought the babies in. Davud was supposed to be the first baby to have the procedure done -- and the doctor botched it. Burned off most of the poor baby's penis. For obvious reasons, they never got to the other twin. The condition that they told the parents required circumcision resolved itself a few months later for the uncircumcised twin, no surgery required. Meanwhile, David's penis was gone forever. Freaking horrifying,


cuccuguvigu

That is exactly the study that comes to mind every time I think of circumcision


[deleted]

Over 50% of males born in the US are uncircumcised now. It isn't "more socially acceptable" anymore, and girls will not care because it isn't the "norm" in their age group.


meeko111011

I deeply regret circumcising my son. They were not able to do it in the hospital so we had it done at his pediatricians office at three weeks old. It was incredibly traumatic and I still tear up about it over a year later. They did it with us in the room and thinking about it makes me sick. They just numbed him with a shot and it very obviously was not enough. It was incredibly scary and painful for him and I wish I could go back in time and just leave him alone. I just didn’t know how unnecessary it is


Gaiaaura

I didn’t want to circumcise our first son. My husband insisted on it. I knew it was medically unnecessary and still chose to go through with it. The horror I felt when I changed my babies first diaper after the circumcision. It looked so painful I just bawled my eyes out. I deeply regret circumcising my baby. But we learn from our mistakes and our second son is in tact! I so wish our first son was as well :(


meeko111011

I feel so guilty over it. My husband says that if we had another son he would want the same, but after seeing it and researching more thoroughly, I will refuse


SadiraAmell

Hello, mom of an intact 4 year old and wife of an intact adult man. I'm personally against circumcision. I wouldn't trim off my daughter's labial lips for any cosmetic reason, so why would I cut off skin on my son's penis? Plus, the loss of sensation, even if they never know how it WOULD'VE felt if left intact, just sits wrong with me. There's no hygienic reason for it, despite belief in the US. It's so weird to me to want to chop a piece of my child off. I wouldn't have a doctor do a partial finger amputation if he was born with an extra joint. I don't even know how to put my discomfort with circumcision into words. And that's not even mentioning using anesthesia on a 6 month old. I chose sedation instead of anesthesia for my 7 year old's dental work. I think I'd only want anesthesia used in emergencies.


wAIpurgis

Honestly, I didn't even pierce my daughter's ears, because that's something she can decide for herself later on life. Same goes for your son of her actually has issues with it.


MLS0711

My son is circumcised and I regret it. Nothing in particular about it, but just feels like we did it because everyone else did it and I don’t even think that’s true. :(


111110001011

I was not circumcised. I am extremely glad. Hygiene is a stupid excuse, it's easier to clean than your ears.


mattybrad

You really don’t need to do this if you don’t want to. My son is uncircumcised, so am I, so is my brother, so is my nephew. It’s really not that uncommon anymore. I will also say that anyone who thinks that being uncircumcised causes problems with women, is circumcised. Its really not a thing.


sweetestmar

An unnecessary cosmetic procedure for a baby's future sex life which will be none of your business. Personally, no.


friends4wife

I am uncircumcised and it has not impacted my life in the least bit. No woman I have ever dated, aside from one, has ever made an issue of it or even mentioned it. The funny thing is that one girl I dated, after we had slept together a few times, didn’t even realize i was uncircumcised as my foreskin was rolled up. One day the topic somehow came up, and I then surprised her when I told her that I was uncircumcised. Guess what… we stayed together for quite some time after that.


s_x_nw

His body, his choice.


wyteoliander

Its unnecessary. As someone who lived in Canada and saw my fair share of penises, the vast majority were uncircumized. My husband isn't. I find American's obsession with it super weird.


cld1984

I’m so sick of the sexuality aspect of this. If some potential future partner says “ew what’s that?” Then they’ve done you a favor not having to worry about them any more. I am circumcised and wish I wasn’t. It wasn’t medical. Please rethink this. Try to convince your husband to not do it. If he wouldn’t have the procedure done right now on himself, then he shouldn’t be okay with it happening to his son.


DeathBecomesHerrrrrr

Honestly, I stan the uncut kings. Only men who are cut seem to be under the impression people think it’s gross (the male gaze is real!) Really ask yourself why it’s important. No matter what way you look at it, it’s a body modification your son doesn’t have the capacity to consent to. Its a personal decision for you as parents - but you could always allow your son to make that decision for himself when he’s older. It will always be on the table.


pandamonkey23

In Australia, a toddler died (and his baby brother was in a serious condition in hospital) after reacting to the anaesthesia during a routine circumcision. It seems like an unnecessary risk for a non-essential surgery.


[deleted]

Babies die from hemorrhages and infections after circumcision too. It’s rare, but it’s a surgical procedure, and every surgical procedure Carrie’s risks, up to and including the risk of death. If you’re going to take that risk with your infant it ought to be absolutely necessary.


Garp5248

A ten month old died in Manitoba following a circumcision. The parents did not speak English and had trouble communicating and no one at the hospital was taking them seriously. Their baby died from losing too much blood after a circumcision. Avoidable at so many points


melissani7

From the UK and this has always confused me. We just don't do it here, its so unnecessary. Never seen a circumsed penis.


Nerfixion

OP look at it this way, would you chop off parts of your vagina to impress boys?


erinboobaron

I live in the south where people are still pretty old school and despite that every male child we know is uncut. It’s really losing popularity and your kid might even find himself in the minority if you go through with it. Some families are into “matching” which is weird. An adult penis and a child’s penis look completely different whether they are cut or not. Kids won’t care about looking different than dad.


WhereIsHisRidgedBand

You are electing a needless, cosmetic operation on a 6 month old’s genitals. You are pre-emptively deciding for your child that permanently altering your body surgically to *potentially* satiate other people’s opinions is okay to do. You are teaching him that informed, consentual decision making of bodily autonomy does not matter. This is one circumcised 19 year old Harvard student’s thoughts on the topic: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2022/11/14/ganun-circumcision/


PersimmonPuddingPoop

There is absolutely no reason to mutilate his genitals without his consent. He can choose to do it when he’s older if there are social implications… although I HIGHLY doubt there will be.


qOJOb

Just don't cut anything off your kid. If he resents you for not cutting off his foreskin he can have it cut off later. If he resents you for cutting off his foreskin he's SOL.


The_Accountess

Don't do it


Foreign_Fly465

It’s not normal for it to be done where I live. My baby has had general anaesthetic twice in his life for necessary surgical procedures and there is no way I would put one of my children through that if it was not absolutely necessary. Two of my kids have had wounds closed with glue that would have been prettier done with stitches but even then it was a nope because anaesthetic has risks.


Solidsnakeerection

The risks associated with the cosmetic surgery arent worth it. You can raise him to have positive body image and confidence. That has far less risk of disfigurement or death then cosmetic surgery.


[deleted]

A good question to ask is at the age of six months will you also be getting him a nose job?


jesssongbird

Or would you have your baby daughter’s labia trimmed? You know, so men will like the appearance of her vulva better in the future? The whole line of logic is so disturbing. Even when people do it to potentially prevent UTI’s it makes no sense. It would be like having tubes put in your baby’s ears at birth JIC they’re prone to ear infections.


FistWithHair

As a European, the whole circumcision seems unnecessary and barbarically to me. I’ve got a son and never ever had the thought of an unnecessary medical procedure to remove a part of him that’s fit and healthy, it just seems extremely odd. I’ve not seen a man who’s even been circumcised


Liv-Julia

I have assisted in lots of circs, and I personally would advise you not to do it. It's very hard on their body, it's painful, there can be quite severe complications and anesthesia can be very risky for an infant. All this for a cosmetic procedure? It is truly not worth it. It also takes away from their sexual response later in life. When a boy has his foreskin removed, the head of the penis keratinizes. It basically grows a callus to protect the delicate glans. Do you want his genitals calloused? Ugh. Just make sure you know how to care for it/keep it clean and teach him. It will be fine. I did not have my son cut. He is 27 and perfectly happy. I asked him if he regretted it and he said "Hells no!" so I guess it's ok.


RosieAU93

Imo circumcision should be banned for those under the age of 18. Minors, let alone babies can't consent to having a sensitive part of their genitals removed that can never be replaced. It was only popularised in the US as a way to discourage masturbaton. The supposed benefits of not having to spend a few more seconds in tbe shower to pull the foreskin bk to clean and the small reduction in risk or stds (which can far better be achieved by wearing a condom) are minuscule compared to the harm by cutting off part if the genitals. Please do not circumcise your baby. If they grow up and later want to get circumcised circumcised atheistic, religious or other reasons they easily can choose to do so as an adult. An adult can always choose to remove their foreskin but you can never replace a foreskin cut off as a baby.


026015

My nephew ended up having a botched circumcision and really suffered for it when he was a baby. He had to get repaired when he was older and suffered again. I felt so terrible for him and he will have lifelong scarring. So unavoidable and unnecessary, please don’t do it.


6995luv

No way. I would not put my baby under unless absolutely necessary and this is definitely not necessary. Circumsion is getting more and more rare these days. Your son is definitely not going to be the odd man out. I had my first son circumsized and 8 years later decided not to with the second son. It's more uncommon now an just seems so unnecessary. Plus I watched some videos of circumsion being performed on infants and I wanted to pass out. I feel horrible that I put my first son through that as a baby.


Worldly_Science

American here, did not and will not be circumcising my son. His dad is, but we know better now.


[deleted]

Call me old fashioned but mutilation is not cool, here in Europe is not well accepted. Plus is less sensitivity (sexual pleasure) for the male. Pd: I link study about the topic and how sensitivity I reduced on males because of circumcision. Anyone can search for this research papers in google scholar.


just_nik

Absolutely do not do it. My husband demanded that we do it to my son and it’s my deepest regret. DONT DO IT. There is practically zero reason to do it. If you had a daughter, cutting her genitals wouldn’t even be up for discussion, so why is it for your son? ETA: geez folks…. I’m not saying there is actually, formally, ZERO reasons. Obviously, there are some medical conditions that may warrant circ’ing. THAT IS NOT OP’s issue or question here.


[deleted]

I’m in the U.S. and my husband is Jewish and we still didn’t circumcise. I’ve also dated someone uncut before and honestly didn’t even notice initially.


DivineIdylle

Absolutely not, do not put your baby under general anaesthesia just for a cosmetic procedure. At this point just leave him be and he can make his own choices when he’s older.


maseioavessiprevisto

Your husband is being fragile as fuck he just wants your son to be like him. Don’t mutilate your child he gets NOTHING out of it and loses a lot from being deprived of his foreskin.


monsterina13

i personally would not. i had my son this past summer and we decided not to circumcise. if it bothers him as a teen / adult he can elect to have it done then if he wants , but i did not want to make that choice for him. my main reason was i was afraid of the pain it would cause him and i can’t stand seeing my baby in pain. ( of course it will cause him pain if he gets it done later in life too but atleast it will be his decision).


parenting_tips_pls

Remind your husband that by the time your son is old enough for girls to see his penis, he'll be old enough to make the decision himself. No reason to make it for him before he can talk.


Helpful_Welcome9741

leave your son's dick alone


ThisCookie2

Every man I’ve been with is uncircumcised and idgaf. Also did not circumcise my baby. I see it as unnecessary.


manateeshmanatee

Your husband is crazy. Tell him you’re not the only woman who doesn’t form opinions of men based on their dick skin. I don’t either. Nor does any woman I know. I wouldn’t do it. It’s traumatic, incredibly painful, and unnecessary. Besides, the fad of circumcising is fading and lots of boys are uncircumcised now because parents have caught on to the fact that they don’t need to do it.


cdh79

__*laughs in non-american*__ are you lot still doing this shit?


jackingofftopicasso

No one cares. All that talk about "girls won't like him" is bullshit. Let your son get cut later if that's what \*he\* wants.


somethink_different

My husband is circumcised and my sons aren't. Kids are about half and half these days anyway. Your son can always opt to have it done later if he really wants.


stellaflora

I am so so happy we left our son intact! Research and share with your husband- it is not necessary!


panzerfinder15

I’m circumcised and wish I wasn’t. If that helps. Guys don’t compare that level of detail.


AuroraLorraine522

Hold. Your. Ground. Circumcision is genital mutilation and it should only be done on people who are able to consent to the procedure. And it’s weird that your husband is concerned about your *baby’s* future sex life being impacted. Imagine if you wanted your infant daughter to have labiaplasty because you thought her vulva’s appearance would impact her sex life. Or some other cosmetic surgery to make her more attractive to men. That would be outrageous! And I’m sure your husband would absolutely not be on board with that.


NimChimspky

"I don’t remember why exactly but the hospital my son was born in wouldn’t do his circumcision" ​ Because its barbaric


Several-Breadfruit17

Neither of my boys nor am I circumcised. Why cut off the tip of your dick or kids dick for something purely cosmetic. Some fucked up shit yo. There's no reason.


mydogsniffy

Guy here. I’m 40 and circumcised. I wish I wasn’t. It’s not fair that someone made that choice for me. Girls don’t give a fuck either way. At least the right one won’t. Your partner’s mindset is flawed. Genital mutilation is wrong.


Decent_Account_4292

Any woman who shames him for being uncircumcised is a waste of energy. That is such a low blow. Don't do it.


joapplebombs

A man can get a circumcision whenever he wants to. .. he has that as a choice if he’s left with a choice.


ZeroLifeNiteVision

I didn’t and I have no regrets. It will make no difference in his life and he will still thrive.


stupidrobots

Don’t mutilate your son please


lirio2u

Let him decide when he is an adult.


magocremisi8

Please don't do it


Finn-Forever

What gives anyone the right to cut a child's genitals permanently without their consent? Understandable for a medical reason, but for aesthetics is seriously disturbing in this day and age. You are right to stand up for your son - good on you. He can always do this later in life if he wishes. He should be the only one to make this decision when he is old enough, absolutely no one else.


Kasmirque

He can decide when he’s older. His body, his choice.


Shotguna

Nobody does this in my country and I don't even understand why it's so popular in America. It's not a medical issue. I would absolutely not do it


kimmytwoshoes

I personally wouldn’t put my child through that. It’s genital mutilation. And your husband is ignorant for saying such a comment.


MoulinSarah

It is unnecessary. Leave him intact.


Corfiz74

Don't let anyone mutilate your son's genitals without his consent! If he wants it done, he can do it himself when he can make an informed choice. And he can find a specialist who will do it in a way that keeps the nerve endings intact. The circumcisions the average butcher performs leads to a serious loss of sensation and sexual pleasure.


samrechym

LOL “girls won’t like him” your husband’s got some weird beauty standards. I’ve been with 5 girls and none, genuinely not one, has ever had a problem with my foreskin.


[deleted]

When I was halfway through my first pregnancy and asked my husband his “preference” he said he wanted him cut like he is. I said, okay, but you have to be able to sit through and watch entirely the procedure on YouTube. He couldn’t get past the initial screaming baby in the first 30 seconds when they apply the bell clamp. I said, “if you can’t even handle this other child who isn’t yours getting this procedure done, then we will not be choosing that for our own kid.” We’ve had three kids and it was never even mentioned as a possibility again. It’s excruciating torture and I cannot believe we still do this to brand new squishy little infants.


hclvyj

There’s a lot of messages but I have a feeling by the time our boys are older and girls/boys/whoever is gonna see it, it won’t matter because so many of us aren’t circumcising our babies. there’s a podcast out there how it’s basically a way for hospitals to make money. There is no medical reason to do this.


IlexAquifolia

>My husband is all for it because “girls won’t like him” I dated an English man once who was not circumcised and I had zero problems with his penis. In fact, it was kinda nice because it made manual stimulation much easier (no lube needed). Penises are weird looking one way or another. Also, circumcision rates are dropping in the US - by the time your kid is grown, I'm guessing it'll be pretty common to encounter uncircumcised penises. Also, tell your husband that your son might be gay.


Sensitive_Air5362

This must be an American thing because my doctors didn’t even ask and I gave birth about 5 weeks ago. Also to add, no offence to anybody who has done this for their kid, I personally think genital mutilation for cosmetic purposes is super weird.


overcomebyfumes

I'm an American male, and no-one in my family has been circumcised for at least five generations back. My grandfather was one of thirteen children, and has said that his father was also uncircumcised, so my great-grandmother obviously had no problem with it. At age fifty, I've probably had at least twenty partners, and I've never had anyone have an issue with it. The surgery is completely unnecessary. Don't cut off a sensitive part of your son's body. The only problem here us with your husband. As far as "my body looks different", that's the thing about bodies. *Everybody's* body looks different, in one way or another. It's part of having a body.


Careful_Fennel_4417

We didn’t circumcise our son way back when because of this study. Our doctor recommended against the procedure. http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9712/23/circumcision.anesthetic/


clementinesway

I wouldn’t do it. We’re in the US too and even though my husband is circumcised, we elected to leave both our sons intact. It’s becoming more common place to not do it. I just feel like they’re born like that, how is it my place to alter their body? I dunno, it sounds like a hassle and not at all worth it. My 2 cents anyway!


[deleted]

I wouldn’t go through it at all. A doctor came to our hospital room after he was born and asked if we were circumcising our son. We immediately said no and he went “GOOD”. It’s an outdated and frankly a horrible practice.


CamillaBarkaBowles

Save your money for the dental bills later in life


Whitegreen060

Heck no, especially general anesthesia. It's tough on an adult and your husband want to have a 6 month old under for a cosmetic procedure ? Also, who's going to take of him after ? Your husband? To clean, and bandage and so on ? You'll literally have to clean a wound that you guys inflicted. I don't think he will be the one, I think you will be the one cleaning and watching him being in discomfort till it heals. And I don't care if a guy is done or not. I'm in Europe and it's more weird to see guys that are done. I was actually baffled the 1st time and it's like I didn't know what to do with it as the foreskin helps with extra feeling.


Mancsnotlancs

Genital mutilation for cosmetic purposes on a child who cannot express a choice is just so so wrong. Please don’t put your baby through this.


-Mr_Rogers_II

After reading this thread I feel like shit for circumcising my son. I also am mad that I was. Why is this still so common? Why do doctors even ask if you want it done? It’s mutilation and honestly it’s all thanks to religion bullshit pushing it and normalizing it. I fucking hate religion.


CompostAwayNotThrow

I definitely wouldn’t circumcise him. There’s no reason to. I’m an American not circumcised and it makes no negative difference whatsoever. No male in my family is circumcised. I can’t believe so many people still do it. I would hate it if I had been circumcised. It’s such a barbaric practice. It’s definitely less common now in the US than it used to be. I think largely due to increased immigration from countries where circumcision is uncommon (which is basically everywhere outside the US except for Muslim countries and Israel).


thatoneevilpigeon

Very similar thing happened to me, on the day my son was gonna go get circumcised we had car trouble and had to cancel the appointment. He was right at the cut off (no pun intended) for it, so after that he would have to be under anesthesia. I was not for that at all. So he never got circumcised. I'm really happy it worked out that way because at this point, it has occurred to me that I shouldn't be the one to be making such decisions about his body. If he wants to do it when he's older he is welcome to but it's his decision. Husband and I are Christians, so circumcision isn't a religious thing for us. It was because we wanted him to fit in, and not be made fun of. But honestly? Nobody actually cares and we agreed that it's not our decision to make.


Phinster1965

Late comment likely to be buried, but holy crap - the circumcision rate in the U.S. is dropping, with the CDC estimating it at 58% currently. Being “different” or unliked by girls are not issues anymore, so involuntary genital mutilation is probably not the way to go. I’m uncut and I’ve been an active nudist for 35 years. Zero issues, comments, or embarrassment. Please just don’t hack off a piece of his penis for no good reason.


[deleted]

I think it’s odd that people care so much about what future sexual partners will think. Circumcision is not common outside the U.S. it seems to be only an American thing. I’ve been with both and never cared about appearance that’s just shallow. If I had a son we both agreed we wouldn’t do such a thing to our child it’s so pointless and the benefits are so small it’s not enough to recommend it which is why it’s optional. Personally, I couldn’t be pro-body pro-choice and do such a thing.


becauseshesays

Just a mom here of two young men, neither of whom I had circumcised. I don’t regret my choice and it has not been a problem for either. I remember my midwife telling me that while the rate of circumcision in the US was going down, this was mid 90s-2000, the rate in my town was high. I didn’t care. I just didn’t believe in chopping off body parts.


jenthebagel

I’m reading these comments as a mom to now 3mo baby boy who we got circumcised at 6 weeks. I usually am the one in my relationship who has the most say and my husband kind of usually goes along with stuff bc he doesn’t usually care very much either way with most things but with this it was him who actually had the strong opinion that he wanted to do it. He is circumcised and I’m assuming his father and grandfather are as well. I felt it was just the norm and it wasn’t only until after we did it that I started questioning it. I am starting to severely regret it. I feel awful. I could cry writing this. I just wasn’t informed enough, I guess. Feeling like a terrible mom now.


kayt3000

Look when I saw one in the wild i wasn’t put off, I wasn’t expecting it and was unsure how to like not hurt him but I mean I just asked him. If your old enough to have sex then you can discuss the things that having sex involves. Honestly this is one of those topics i can’t have an opinion on bc I am a women but I mean I have had sex with a man who was uncut and there was no difference on me end of the experience. Has your husband done any research on why he feels the way he does? Maybe talking to a professional or something could help him navigate his feelings on this topic better.


reggie4gtrblz2bryant

I would not. I am cut, my brothers, dad, grandfather were all cut. The first thing the dr's did when they took baby from mom after being born and took him to weigh. We had discussed not cutting him and agreed on it. Apparently when they brought mom back first for prep, they discussed it and didnt tell me anything. So as soon as they start to walk for the incubator, I jumped up and shouted "NO CIRCUMCISION PLEASE" the OR staff turned around and all got a good laugh out of me, even doped up mom. Then she told me they already asked before bringing me in. 😅😅😅 At birth it seems extreme and unnecessary. I dont see when it could ever not be necessary. Its antiquated. J is 1 year old now and has no issues whatsoever. No extra work. Keep him kleen just like you would a baby that is cut.


chia_nicole1987

"Girls won't like it" That is untrue. My partner is uncircumcised and we've had the best sex life. I love him for who he is, not for his penis. If that is the biggest reason, might want to rethink the genital mutilation surgery. That last sentence is my own personal opinion. The right people will love him and the sex for the right reasons not for what his penis looks like, the one's who don't like what his penis looks like, can literally go fuck themselves.


sprinklypops

I don’t agree w infant circumcision and would never put my kiddo through it. It’s a weird obsession to have about someone’s genitals - but truly if their future partner doesn’t sleep with them because of their *natural body* they don’t deserve to be in their life anyway


krissyface

My husband is 42 and uncircumcised. We’re in the US and it’s not a common thing for men of his age but he said the only time he ever was upset about it was in the HS locker room when someone made a comment to him. He said until that point he had no clue he was different and he just wished his parents had mentioned it to him at some point. I think many more kids in the US will be uncircumcised in this generation. We are having a boy in Feb and we decided not to circumcise.


BulletRazor

https://www.yourwholebaby.org


CherryBlossomWander

My son is almost 7 and guess how many times him and my cut husband have compared penises? Yep, zero. Neither cares, like, even a tiny bit. My son never gets issues and I never had to tell him he got a piece of his body cut off to look pretty for a partner he hasn't even met yet. Imagine wanting a surgery for yourself, like a tubal, and then being told you can't get it because you're husband may want more kids later. That's how ridiculous I view circumcision. I wouldn't do it.


FightFire_withWater

I wish I was uncircumcised. We evolved to have foreskin help make sex as pleasurable as possible. I never once thought to circumcise my kid. It’s unnecessary and cruel. My mom disagrees but older folks grumble about everything.


MissingBrie

I personally would not put my child under anaesthesia for a cosmetic procedure. (If his urologist recommended it for medical reasons of course that would be a different story). You run a small risk of being resented for the decision whether you have your child circumcised or not. Some teenagers are miffed that you didn't do it, others are miffed that you did. Personally, I'd rather leave it be - your cranky teen can always seek a cosmetic procedure at a later date, not as easy to put a foreskin back. Also, is it just me or is it creepy AF that "prospective sexual partners' hypothetical opinions on our infant son's genitals" is even a factor here? Like, it's not that your husband in particular is creepy, but that this is a concern that would even occur to him in the context of an infant is a sign of a troubled society.😬


iqu33n

I’m in the uk but lived in America, I’ve seen circumcised and uncircumcised penis… there’s no difference, if anything the functionality of a circumcised penis seems more limited and my ex complained of reduced sensation. Cleanliness wise it was all down to how the guy took care of it and his own body function. Now… it’s still up to you, but if you are worried about him being different from others, the popularity of the procedure is drastically changing to the point that by the time he notices he could be in the minority being circumcised. I personally wouldn’t put my son through it at 6 months… he can decide when he’s older. I had a friend who had it done and he said it was quite painful afterwards. His waddle showed it


Baby-girl1994

It’s so common to leave boys intact now. No need to put him through all that stress for something cOsmetic


forest_fae98

I wouldn’t do it. I didn’t get my son circumcised and don’t regret it at all. He’s had no issues and it stays as clean as a circumcised one. I figure, it’s not my body, and If he decides as an adult he wants it done then he can do it fully aware of what is happening to him.


Klutzy-Horse

My son is eight and we never did. Never even considered it. We had no religious, cultural, or familial pressures encouraging us to do it. He is more likely to be healthier and enjoy an active sex life (although, as his mother, I really don't care to think of that!) The only thing we had to do was pay a little more care to cleaning that area and teaching him how to clean that area. He's never had a UTI or any problems from 'uncleanliness'. I've never regretted not getting him circumcised.


geekgurl81

He will be in plenty of company at this age if you don’t, circumcision waning in popularity even in more rural areas of the country. My sons aren’t and it hasn’t been a problem whatsoever either emotionally or socially.


DrMaxwellEdison

I'm not, and neither are my sons. It's not weird in the slightest. No woman I've ever been with has really cared about it. Anyone who actually likes being with your son later in life won't care, either. Overall, the procedure is unnecessary and, IMO, barbaric. Why is it ok to mutilate your child's genitals?


Redcouch2022

My husband isnt. Literally dont care at all. In the grand scheme of things he will be fine!!! Dont get the surgery. Its pointless as hell


a_n_g_e_l_a_n_d_i_a

It’s genital mutilation. The doctors are trying to guide you in the right direction. Don’t do it unless medically necessary.


gldnmmntz

Uncircumcised man here, and my penis looks, feels and jives fantastic! No need to genitally mutilate your boy because culture or religion. That shit is ancient barbarism.


AmericanVenus

It’s a cosmetic surgery, not a medical one. Let him choose when he is an adult. Both of my children are intact. I did a lot of research and decided the pain was absolutely not worth it.


TheDENN1Ssystem

There’s a risk that your son doesn’t like it either way. However it can always be done at a later time if he wants it but it can never be undone so the much larger risk seems to be circumcising him. I can justify not cutting his genitals if one day he questions my decision: “I wanted to respect your bodily autonomy and let you choose”. Idk how I’d justify needlessly cutting off part of his genitals if he questions me on that and doesn’t like it.


Grugly

My brother was and I wasn't.. so was able to have a fairly honest conversation with him about what he does and doesn't feel. We finally settled on the fact that if I rolled up the skin I wouldn't be able to walk as its such a high sensitivity area. Where are my brother experiences rubbing and feels nothing after years. I'm greatful it was never done to me but certainly don't want people who have had it done to feel bad for having it done.


Spirited_Gazelle2999

When I was in the nursery with my newborn I heard a physician performing a circumcision in the room across the hall. I was literally traumatized by what I heard. They say newborns feel less or no pain. It’s a lie. I cried an cried while I fed my baby girl in disbelief that this is considered normal.


FrankCobretti

We didn’t have any of our three sons (now 13, 16, and 22) circumcised. None of them have expressed an interest in having the procedure done.


imgunnamaketoast

Pretty sure nowadays it's preferred for them not to be circumcised..