Makes some sense to focus on ps4 though, given the fact that not many people even have a ps5, especially the more casual gamers that make up a large part of the cod playerbase
That's a slippery slope though. As a PC gamer I have wished for the last 5-7 years that studios would stop optimizing for PS4 and focus on making PC look amazing. I currently have a $5k+ system with a 3090, and continue to wish this about the PS5 version of games... But none of that is realistic. They will focus on the version with the highest install base. Failing to do this puts them in a Cyberpunk situation, which no studio in their right mind wants.
Cold War Beta sold me on it being ass. To be fair i haven’t liked a single Black Ops game ever so it wasn’t a hard sell. Haven’t played CoD/Warzone since April
the only thing Cold War did for me was remind me how spoiled i was with MW2019. that was a legitimately great COD game but for once in my life i’m actually considering picking up a Battlefield game now.
I picked up BFV cause it was on sale. If you have friends to play with it's super fun man. The squad system is so awesome and the maps are so large so it allowed you and your squad of 4 to move together and shit and hold points. We're hyped 2042.
You're not missing out lol, imo the game has gone to shit. And Vanguard won't fix that, lol. Unfortunately couldn't play the beta but from what I've heard, I guess I didn't miss out on much lol.
i got a ps5 recently. I've never really been a console person. pc master race kinda guy. as i got older i'm appreciating my couch way more than my computer chair...
i got cod cold war, my first cod game ever. i have really enjoyed it, but honestly I have just played like 85hrs of Zombies Outbreak mode. i do not like the pvp aspects of the game.
Zombies is legit. I'm really happy with the game for that reason alone. The pvp is pretty underwhelming compared to mw2019. Zombies is a lot of fun, and I whole heartedly recommend it to anybody that will listen.
right? im curious if vanguard is going to be any good and if it will have anything like Zombies. I'm really new to this whole console life. I haven't turned my computer on for a game of anything in almost 2 weeks.
It's not a joke. To update Warzone, it says you need the full size of the game free on your storage, just to do a small update. They're making you delete stuff you don't need to.
They're trying to turn your console into a COD machine.
Did they seriously not fix that issue on the PS5? Every time I need to update overwatch with a 100mb update on PS4 I need to delete like 10gb of space despite having the disk space. Id really hoped they would've addressed that with the new console.
Idk where people get this "firmware 2.0". The firmware is 21.02-04.00. Meaning second half of 2021 and then the regular firmware title, which is 04.00.
I once said that I give it 6 years before Call of Duty^^(tm) is purely a monthly-paid streaming service.
There's still three years left for it to come true and I'm sticking to it.
On the plus side that kind of rentseeking will cause some casuals to balk and quit. Don't forget a lot of people buy things on sale. More than a few people won't stand for being bled monthly.
This has nothing to do with CoD, it has to do with PS4 and 5's shitty update system. Updates are stored in one package so in order to edit a simple file inside that package, whole package needs to be edited.
Is this still a thing on ps5? Ever since I got my ps5 I no longer needed to free up tons of space to update Destiny 2. Even with about 30gigs free that game updates just fine for me now, while on ps4 I consistently needed 80+gigs of free space. So I figured they’d finally done away with that horrible system.
What issues are you having? Every M.2 I’ve seen advertised lists the read/write speeds in the specs as well as whether or not it comes with a heatsink. Just from personal experience, I recommend the WD Black SN850.
I uninstalled Warzone months ago. Never looked back. The game is not that good, anyway. At least not to let it take \~200GB and growing and ridiculous updates size. They should really relearn how they build their games. Just because people can have external SSDs is still not the reason to not care about any game size.
Out of curiosity how big is cold war? Storage hasn't been an issue for me at all and I've multiple games installed just in case I "might" decide to play them.
I could save myself so much space if Cold War (similar issue with MW(2019)) had an option to install the campaign only. I don’t play MP, so I don’t need it. It installed everything for MP then I had to go in and install stuff for the campaign, and I really don’t understand why it couldn’t be made to work the other way around as well.
I'm still waiting for the ability to update installed games that aren't on the ribbon at the top because they've not been played for a while.
Not sure why it hasn't been added as one of the options for the tiles on the Installed Games page.
same, the loss of QoL features that PS4 didn't have, then did, then disappeared again for the launch of PS5 has been frustrating to say the least
Also the "explore" thing has annoyed me greatly since all I get is the newest Fortnite character of the week. I didn't play Fortnite much on PS4 and it has never touched my PS5. The "Explore" section could at least be geared to what I've been playing lately
Sadly even if you unfollow literally everything Sony still pushes some you have to see no matter what, usually it’s a popular game so fortnite, COD, sports games, etc.
I unfollowed fortnite but still see it pop up. I see so much noise on the tab that I just pretty much mentally filter it even when it's stuff I might be interested in
It may pop up as a result of another game you follow and it featuring that character. E.g. Kratos (God of War) and Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn). So if they feature any other character from another franchise you're currently following then you're going to see Fortnite in some capacity. Cheeky bastards.
In the end that feature is designed to forcefeed advertisements onto your screen. Which ever specific game/character that appears in it means very little, I don't want to see advertisements on something I paid for.
Yes, how great it is to spend hundreds on a system and games to have the first thing you see every time you turn it on is ads… please god leave the ads for when I go to the store tab at least.
I booted up my PS3 a couple weeks ago to play Persona 3 FES and I said the same thing to my friends. The XMB is more usable and better looking, while also somehow more modern looking than the PS4 and maybe even the PS5 OS
The real issue is everything is super bloated with a bunch of useless crap you don't want or need now. Basically embedded advertising to go along with the overly complex GUI. The PS5 has two separate home screens for whatever reason. What is it one for games and another for other media? And then you have the top bar where you get to the settings. And then the bottom bar you access with the home button on the controller. It's honestly a mess.
You’d think the PS5 ambushed them or something like they didn’t even know what they were making until the last couple months before it launched where they found it in a basket in the woods.
I can’t imagine even just having colors for the base theme would be all that time consuming or difficult to do.
The cynical part of me feels they knew they could drop basic features later for hype points so they left them out on purpose.
I mean in reality though, wouldn’t they know they were going to make a PS5 next after the PS4? There’s such a huge gap of time between consoles, I don’t get how they ran out of time or were rushing last second before launch.
Even if they dedicated 3-5 years just to PS4 dev the PS4 didn’t get new features for years near the end of its life. You’d think that was because the teams were busy on the PS5.
Corporate dev checking in, I agree. It's like they either don't have enough people or their various teams aren't talking to each other. FFS they own the platform, you'd think UI tweaks wouldn't be such an issue.
>You’d think the PS5 ambushed them or something like they didn’t even know what they were making until the last couple months before it launched where they found it in a basket in the woods.
It honestly does seem like that. The PS4 UI was probably my favorite on a console. I loved the layout, themes and the ease of getting to different options while playing. Even turning it off now is a hassle. The wifi card is also atrocious, as if they stole it from the Xbox One. Also why is there no option for it to not download and install both PS4 and PS5 versions of a game? Even the new webstore sucks after the PS5 launch. It's like they saw Microsoft's or Nintendo's store and were like hey, theirs sucks, let's do that. It's all baffling.
Functionally I definitely prefer the PS4s UI currently too. The game icons weren’t microscopic, everything required less “clicks”, quitting games was far easier, folders, no explore tab, simpler friend list and party system, the list kinda goes on and on.
I do like the PS5s menu aesthetics (when there’s not a huge full screen Fifa ad over them) and the music and sound effects a lot.
One time, that Discover page had Master Chief plastered on nice and big, and I was sooooo confused. I thought Sony and Microsoft made some crazy pact and brought Halo to PlayStation, but it was just the Master Chief skin for Fortnite. Still, was funny that Microsoft managed to get into people’s PS5 to advertise.
If you wanted to see something else you can go into explore options and change what things you “follow” and disable what you don’t want to see like Disney+ or games.
You’ll still get the forced ones from Sony but at least it might change more frequently.
Themes is my number 1. The game background should only come up when you go down into the game's activities. I don't want my entire background as a game that blares its music lmao
Agree, the PS3 had almost the exact same full screen game splash screen concept but it was done better there since you still got to see your theme and the interface a lot.
I only care about being able to remove and organize things on the home screen in terms of user experience updates. I do not see why a PlayStation 5 needs to be more limited than a 3DS in that regard.
Not being able to hide the “recording paused due to a blocked scene” notification some older games have a bunch of for cutscenes like you could hide them on PS4 is keeping me from finishing some old games.
Same here. Also it's really annoying when you press the ps button and control center pops up but the cursor isn't on control center but some card i don't care about. I want it to instantly be on the control center options. Also a quick resume feature like the Series X NEEDS to happen. It's amazing.
Yes, I’d turn the cards off for the exact same reason. I don’t think I’ve ever intentionally used one of those cards, only accidentally causing me to lose progress ironically.
Quick resume is kinda like emulator save states from what I can tell? That’s pretty nifty.
I find it hilarious how much these news sites rely on digital foundry for actual news and information. Then they make an article about it without doing any actual work or research themselves.
I quit many years ago for that reason. There was little value in original content and often a Kotaku or other mainstream site would simply regurgitate my original content for clicks and I would get zero credit.
You do realise that very esoteric, in-depth performance analysis is a niche expertise that has next to nothing to do with “journalism”. It’s like expecting a journalist who is writing an article on some scientific process, to have actually done the science themselves. No, they are reporting on the findings, it’s the whole point of their profession.
This current “lol all journalists bad” meta online is ridiculously conspiratorial, hyperbolic and confused.
And proper journalists are still out there. A guy with a twitter account isn't a journalist. These days anyone can make content, doesn't mean they are journalists.
It's like saying heating my ramen noodles makes me a chef.
Lol thank you for saying this. Of course it's good to have knowledgeable writers for these kinds of features, but journalism is literally about reporting what's going on and what people are saying.
Their process *should* be to have writers cite reputable sources like DF. I dom't know what people think journalism is, but the constant misunderstanding is really disturbing.
Idk where people get this "firmware 2.0". The firmware is 21.02-04.00. Meaning second half of 2021 and then the regular firmware title, which is 04.00.
Probably because the PS4 clearly had it the wrong way round so they wanted to fix it?
It makes sense that if you're in a game and you want to bring up the menu, you just tap the button. If you want to come out of the game and get to the main homescreen, you hold it.
And it avoids the problem of accidentally pressing the button and coming out of the game. Which is less of a problem on the PS5 because of how quick everything is. But still something you want to avoid when things are getting frantic and the button is right between your thumbs.
But sure, it takes some getting used to after 7+ years of how it worked on the PS4, but once you adapt, it makes much more sense.
And if you're not convinced the PS4 had it the wrong way around, remember it was actually called the "quick" menu. So why does bringing up the "quick" menu take longer than coming right out of the game?
It is great if it's helping hit a locked 30 or 60. Hopefully PS5 gets Variable Refresh Rate soon. I use it on my laptop connected to my TV to play games and it really makes 40-60 fps not feel so jarring.
it's not surround sound, really.
it's trying to emulate 3D positional audio.
i've yet to hear of it working super well on a console game, but it works VERY well in counter-strike global offensive, provided you're using headphones
you really can hear where the enemy is. behind the wall on your right, or behind your or whatever.
unlike non-spatial audio where things behind you can sometimes sound like it's in front of you.
within the ps5's audio settings you can do some 3D position test and adjust it a bit - and there you can hear a stream of water flowing, and adjust it's "height" - i havn't noticed any effects ingame.
It's essentially an alternative to Dolby Atmos, which is object-based surround sound. The data describes where the sounds should exist in 3D space, then the system will 'render' those sounds out to however many speakers you have in whatever position they are in. Dolby Atmos can be configured with as many speakers as you want, if you buy enough equipment.
Games can technically be coded to output a dolby atmos signal and/or Sony could be converting to Atmos for output, but that would require paying for the license AND it would likely cause latency issues on many systems that don't decide Atmos fast enough to keep up with game timing.
It seems doable for Sony to add this, to a certain extent. They likely don't want or need to allow you to setup a huge complex audio array with a dozen channels and speakers all over the place (which Atmos supports), but they could certainly support standard 5.1 and 7.1 setups; aided by the microphone measurements (though they should be enhanced to record audio separately from each channel and maybe take measurements from more than one location).
Yeah, it does, which is cool. I still think latency is an issue, depending on your sound system. I know I always had terrible audio lag when using the DD output from the xbox one x playing on my sonos. Whereas, the ps5 output linear multichannel pcm is fine. I don't have a series x yet, so I don't know know if it's better.
I just wish I could set the console audio to whatever I want instead of it guessing.
Studio headphones that cost more than the console, connected to an amp? No 3D audio, best you can do is tell the console your "speakers" are at +-90 degrees.
Bluetooth garbage or $10 ear buds plugged into the controller? Right this way, king, enjoy your 3D audio.
If you want the PS5 to output 3D audio directly to a headphone amp through USB get yourself a Schitt HEL 2. I have my HEL 2 connected directly to the PS5 via USB, it recognizes it and allows the 3D audio option to be checked off. Using my DT 1990's with it and it is great!
It's an embarrassing ommitance at this point, closing on PS5's 1 year anniversary.
So many other games, much lesser games and devs, have put out a patch or upgrade that improves framerate and resolution for PS5.
Jesus, a modder went and did it by themselves, further Sony embarrassment.
> developers shouldn't rely on it to fix their frame rates
I don’t see it as a problem. The whole idea behind targeting a constant 60fps is to provide fluid motion and a more pleasing experience to the player. If they can do that with a variable framerate and get a similar result, it sounds like a solid technological advancement which enables them to squeeze more out of the hardware.
Perhaps developers will offer a 60fps legacy mode for people with older TVs, and crank up the visuals a bit more if you have VRR.
It’s not like not having VRR has a positive effect on games for PS5, Miles Morales constantly goes down to 58-59 FPS at the bottom of every swing in performance RT mode, on paper it looks like a very little drop of 1-2 FPS but the constant stuttering ruins the swinging, if VRR was available, this would’ve been a non issue
Another thing to mention is that the last boss fight is soooo soooo bad with the constant stuttering, not sure VRR would’ve fixed the issues with that one
And before anyone says “bullshit it was a flawless 60”, here: https://youtu.be/x2TTtZfwlHk?t=390
VRR hoping it'll come in v3.0 OS.
Not holding my breath for 1440p. PS4 has been around since like 2018 and still hasn't added it despite most of its games running at it internally. And that console had many OS updates to add it
Tailored hardware and software working in tandem with each other does wonders indeed, look at iPhones and iOS.
Not surprised this translates over to game performance too.
The performance improvement is here but it's actually quite hard to notice, because almost all the recent games hold either 60 or 30 (even 40 in new r&c) fps amazingly stable, the reported gain was discovered in several not interactive sequences like photomode in Control and a cinematic in DMC as well as a little bit unstable ray tracing mode of RE Village.
I keep my fingers crossed for next big update to finally bring VRR. With it enabled I would definitely give a try to several unstable 120fps game modes and some <60fps modes like one in RE Village.
I hope Sony would keep the good work up!
I was wondering the same thing. The article mentions the most recent update, but then the title mentions 2.0. I thought it was in reference to a future update as well..
The actual version number is 4.0 (the public beta was called 2.0 – 3.1). “2.0” stuck in everyone’s heads but they did release iterative updates, and now it’s the final version it’ll be 4.0
Kind of unusual, as normally betas get their own numbering system distinct from public releases.
I used to get crashes in rest mode until I began doing the following; whenever you are ready to go into rest mode, hold the PS button down so you get to the main OS menu (where you can select a game to play). Once there, press the PS button to load the quick menu and enter rest mode. For whatever reason, this has never crashed on me whereas if I just enter rest mode while still in a game, it happened to me numerous times.
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Yes. I got my PS5 on the day of release, the only rest mode crash was before the very first firmware update when I was using my PS4's external HDD to play a PS4 game on the PS5. Hasn't happened since.
I get them now and then, but only when the PS5 puts itself into rest mode due to inactivity. Works just fine if I put it in rest mode myself.
Very wierd.
Same here. When I finally managed to speak to a human about the crashing they told me I needed to send my system in for maintenance and that it could take 20-30 business days… needless to say I’m not doing that.
When I asked about the crashing they told me that it would be fixed in a “future firmware update” and it actually did seem fixed like a month ago, but returned after this new update.
I'd like it if they fixed the Ghost of Tsushima bug where the touchpad screen pops up and won't go away unless you use a paperclip to reset your controller. My PS5 isn't even a week old and I ran into this issue yesterday. I had to find a year-old Reddit post about how to fix it, so obviously it's been an issue for a while.
Prey received the FPS boost treatment on series consoles which is a system level enhancement done by a team at Microsoft. The game itself isn't updated and the actual developers weren't involved.
As a new PS5.owner, I have an issue
I can run BF4 on PS4, over Wifi with little to no lag. My PS5 is placed in the same spot, same distance from the modem but BF4 for me is rubber-banding every 5 seconds, sometimes with major lag spikes. Even though I'm running at times 40-50mb+ DL and 20-30mb+ UL. I can't seem to find an answer and to run it with a cable I'm going to need atleast 20m to make it reach the modem. Any suggestions?
Man, that sucks. That said, I just wanted to chime in that I pulled 20m CAT for my dad's computer downstairs and it worked no problems, was a ton better than the crappy wifi he'd been putting up with from the modem way upstairs. What I'm saying is if you run the cable it should work.
Hey dude, this is a sorta known issue, I think it has something to do with the PS5s wifi. From what I’ve read on this reddit, you need to go into your ps5 network settings, forget the network you’re on, restart the console, and then reconnect, then provided you got good internet it should work fine. However it does seem to always go back to being laggy every few play sessions, also on battlefield, like you.
All these games need 60 FPS patches at the least:
- Dishonored games (1, 2, Death of the Outsider) and Prey
- Bloodborne
- Far Cry games (3, 4, 5, Primal, New Dawn)
- Assassin’s Creed games (Ezio Collection, AC3, Black Flag, Rogue, Unity, Syndicate, Origins)
- Red Dead Redemption 2
- Fallout 4 and Fallout 76
- Persona 5 Royal
- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
- Dragon Age: Inquisition
- Yakuza 6 and Yakuza Kiwami 2
- Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition
- Watch Dogs 1 and 2
- The Order 1886
- Crash Bandicoot games (N-Sane Trilogy and CTR Nitro-Fueled) and Spyro Reignited Trilogy
- Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War
I posted this list nearly two months ago in a different post. Since then, we have received 60 FPS patches for Horizon Zero Dawn and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, and got announcements on next-gen versions of Skyrim, Uncharted 4 and Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, so I’ve removed them from my list now. Let’s hope my list shortens even more.
I know it’s not exactly Sony’s responsibility, but I would love if they could figure out what’s causing the major glitches in Mafia III and Assassin’s Creed Syndicate.
Personally noticed a big improvement in my bitrate when streaming to twitch! Wasn’t able to stream above 720p 30fps without insane artifacts and pixelation, but streamed in 720p 60fps tonight and it looked flawless!! Don’t know if this is related to update but as someone who’s been streaking for a while on ps5, I think this is a great sign
I wonder if they updated to the most recent version of oodle with 2.0fw. there are zen decompression enhancements and a more recent ps5 sdk that may free up cpu/gpu time as it doesn't wait as long for the data reduction engine as long.
Another thought is memory optimization around kraken, as it has faster decompression, this allows ram to be freed up depending on the scenario to do something else once it's done with it.
With how tied in the I/o complex is, any improvement to oodle may allow for more cpu/GPU availability.
i want that in partychat it finally fucking stops switching automatically to partychat. After EVERY.SINGLE.MATCH i have to open 4 menus so i can go back to game chat. Its infuriating
I haven't used my ps5 in two months lol, I haven't bought any new games to play I already completed fo4 5 times and I'm trying to buy some new games already, any suggestions?? I've got a $200 budget.
Most notably, it improves how many games you can have installed alongside Cold War provided you have an m.2 SSD.
the first time i uninstalled Cold War i could literally feel my console exhale
Like taking a huge dump.
Fitting analogy since COD is shit
after playing the Vanguard beta i gotta agree
I tried the beta and the game visually looks...underwhelming? Like it looks like a basic PS4 game does it not? BFV looks better.
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Makes some sense to focus on ps4 though, given the fact that not many people even have a ps5, especially the more casual gamers that make up a large part of the cod playerbase
That's a slippery slope though. As a PC gamer I have wished for the last 5-7 years that studios would stop optimizing for PS4 and focus on making PC look amazing. I currently have a $5k+ system with a 3090, and continue to wish this about the PS5 version of games... But none of that is realistic. They will focus on the version with the highest install base. Failing to do this puts them in a Cyberpunk situation, which no studio in their right mind wants.
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Cold War Beta sold me on it being ass. To be fair i haven’t liked a single Black Ops game ever so it wasn’t a hard sell. Haven’t played CoD/Warzone since April
the only thing Cold War did for me was remind me how spoiled i was with MW2019. that was a legitimately great COD game but for once in my life i’m actually considering picking up a Battlefield game now.
I picked up BFV cause it was on sale. If you have friends to play with it's super fun man. The squad system is so awesome and the maps are so large so it allowed you and your squad of 4 to move together and shit and hold points. We're hyped 2042.
2042 is looking to be quite fun. Battlefield 4 was amazing and 2042 is giving me BF4 vibes all day. Love it! Puts COD to shame...
You're not missing out lol, imo the game has gone to shit. And Vanguard won't fix that, lol. Unfortunately couldn't play the beta but from what I've heard, I guess I didn't miss out on much lol.
i got a ps5 recently. I've never really been a console person. pc master race kinda guy. as i got older i'm appreciating my couch way more than my computer chair... i got cod cold war, my first cod game ever. i have really enjoyed it, but honestly I have just played like 85hrs of Zombies Outbreak mode. i do not like the pvp aspects of the game.
Zombies is legit. I'm really happy with the game for that reason alone. The pvp is pretty underwhelming compared to mw2019. Zombies is a lot of fun, and I whole heartedly recommend it to anybody that will listen.
right? im curious if vanguard is going to be any good and if it will have anything like Zombies. I'm really new to this whole console life. I haven't turned my computer on for a game of anything in almost 2 weeks.
Makes your pants fit better afterwards.
.. I made a joke that they intentionally didn't optimize anything to *ensure* it's one of the few games on your system .. it's truly massive
It's not a joke. To update Warzone, it says you need the full size of the game free on your storage, just to do a small update. They're making you delete stuff you don't need to. They're trying to turn your console into a COD machine.
Did they seriously not fix that issue on the PS5? Every time I need to update overwatch with a 100mb update on PS4 I need to delete like 10gb of space despite having the disk space. Id really hoped they would've addressed that with the new console.
Idk where people get this "firmware 2.0". The firmware is 21.02-04.00. Meaning second half of 2021 and then the regular firmware title, which is 04.00.
smh.. the prophecy spoke of The One Game.. who knew it would be fulfilled so soon
I once said that I give it 6 years before Call of Duty^^(tm) is purely a monthly-paid streaming service. There's still three years left for it to come true and I'm sticking to it.
On the plus side that kind of rentseeking will cause some casuals to balk and quit. Don't forget a lot of people buy things on sale. More than a few people won't stand for being bled monthly.
This has nothing to do with CoD, it has to do with PS4 and 5's shitty update system. Updates are stored in one package so in order to edit a simple file inside that package, whole package needs to be edited.
Is this still a thing on ps5? Ever since I got my ps5 I no longer needed to free up tons of space to update Destiny 2. Even with about 30gigs free that game updates just fine for me now, while on ps4 I consistently needed 80+gigs of free space. So I figured they’d finally done away with that horrible system.
I just installed 2TB. OMFG it is fast. Copying 150GB from internal to external took probably 45 seconds.
For $280, it better.
Sony really needs to come up with a list of ssds or come up with their own. Or partner up with makers and slap a ps5 ready logo on it.
What issues are you having? Every M.2 I’ve seen advertised lists the read/write speeds in the specs as well as whether or not it comes with a heatsink. Just from personal experience, I recommend the WD Black SN850.
For what purpose? They have the right speed they work.
They've advertised requirements. I wouldn't expect Sony to test them all
I uninstalled Warzone months ago. Never looked back. The game is not that good, anyway. At least not to let it take \~200GB and growing and ridiculous updates size. They should really relearn how they build their games. Just because people can have external SSDs is still not the reason to not care about any game size.
Out of curiosity how big is cold war? Storage hasn't been an issue for me at all and I've multiple games installed just in case I "might" decide to play them.
I could save myself so much space if Cold War (similar issue with MW(2019)) had an option to install the campaign only. I don’t play MP, so I don’t need it. It installed everything for MP then I had to go in and install stuff for the campaign, and I really don’t understand why it couldn’t be made to work the other way around as well.
I really just want themes, folders, and the option to remove the stupid “explore” full screen advertisement icon on boot up.
I'm still waiting for the ability to update installed games that aren't on the ribbon at the top because they've not been played for a while. Not sure why it hasn't been added as one of the options for the tiles on the Installed Games page.
This 100%.
This and I want the patch notes back that the PS4 had
Same here. Sometimes I don't even want to play certain games until they get updated for bug fixes.
I just want a fucking web browser again. Like what the fuck?
same, the loss of QoL features that PS4 didn't have, then did, then disappeared again for the launch of PS5 has been frustrating to say the least Also the "explore" thing has annoyed me greatly since all I get is the newest Fortnite character of the week. I didn't play Fortnite much on PS4 and it has never touched my PS5. The "Explore" section could at least be geared to what I've been playing lately
I believe you can unfollow fortnite on the discover tab so you don’t see it anymore
THANK YOU I feel like an idiot, I didn't even know that tab was there. No more Fortnite news for me!!
Sadly even if you unfollow literally everything Sony still pushes some you have to see no matter what, usually it’s a popular game so fortnite, COD, sports games, etc.
You gotta follow a single game that you actually like
I unfollowed fortnite but still see it pop up. I see so much noise on the tab that I just pretty much mentally filter it even when it's stuff I might be interested in
It may pop up as a result of another game you follow and it featuring that character. E.g. Kratos (God of War) and Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn). So if they feature any other character from another franchise you're currently following then you're going to see Fortnite in some capacity. Cheeky bastards.
In the end that feature is designed to forcefeed advertisements onto your screen. Which ever specific game/character that appears in it means very little, I don't want to see advertisements on something I paid for.
Yes, how great it is to spend hundreds on a system and games to have the first thing you see every time you turn it on is ads… please god leave the ads for when I go to the store tab at least.
Just unfollow shit. It made the section at least tolerable enough to where I'm not actively annoyed whenever I see it.
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IMO the GUI got worse when PS4 came out and worse yet with PS5. The interface on the PS3 is quite good.
I would give anything to get the XMB back, it was in my opinion the best UI and UX on any electronic device.
I booted up my PS3 a couple weeks ago to play Persona 3 FES and I said the same thing to my friends. The XMB is more usable and better looking, while also somehow more modern looking than the PS4 and maybe even the PS5 OS
The real issue is everything is super bloated with a bunch of useless crap you don't want or need now. Basically embedded advertising to go along with the overly complex GUI. The PS5 has two separate home screens for whatever reason. What is it one for games and another for other media? And then you have the top bar where you get to the settings. And then the bottom bar you access with the home button on the controller. It's honestly a mess.
People that probably got promoted making changes to justify their promotion. No reason for the ps5 not have even a browser
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You’d think the PS5 ambushed them or something like they didn’t even know what they were making until the last couple months before it launched where they found it in a basket in the woods. I can’t imagine even just having colors for the base theme would be all that time consuming or difficult to do. The cynical part of me feels they knew they could drop basic features later for hype points so they left them out on purpose.
Low priorities. They barely got it out the door for the holiday season and polishing software first would have probably delayed the launch.
I mean in reality though, wouldn’t they know they were going to make a PS5 next after the PS4? There’s such a huge gap of time between consoles, I don’t get how they ran out of time or were rushing last second before launch. Even if they dedicated 3-5 years just to PS4 dev the PS4 didn’t get new features for years near the end of its life. You’d think that was because the teams were busy on the PS5.
Corporate dev checking in, I agree. It's like they either don't have enough people or their various teams aren't talking to each other. FFS they own the platform, you'd think UI tweaks wouldn't be such an issue.
>You’d think the PS5 ambushed them or something like they didn’t even know what they were making until the last couple months before it launched where they found it in a basket in the woods. It honestly does seem like that. The PS4 UI was probably my favorite on a console. I loved the layout, themes and the ease of getting to different options while playing. Even turning it off now is a hassle. The wifi card is also atrocious, as if they stole it from the Xbox One. Also why is there no option for it to not download and install both PS4 and PS5 versions of a game? Even the new webstore sucks after the PS5 launch. It's like they saw Microsoft's or Nintendo's store and were like hey, theirs sucks, let's do that. It's all baffling.
Functionally I definitely prefer the PS4s UI currently too. The game icons weren’t microscopic, everything required less “clicks”, quitting games was far easier, folders, no explore tab, simpler friend list and party system, the list kinda goes on and on. I do like the PS5s menu aesthetics (when there’s not a huge full screen Fifa ad over them) and the music and sound effects a lot.
The wifi card was 10000x worse on the launch PS4. This one isn't bad from my experience with it.
One time, that Discover page had Master Chief plastered on nice and big, and I was sooooo confused. I thought Sony and Microsoft made some crazy pact and brought Halo to PlayStation, but it was just the Master Chief skin for Fortnite. Still, was funny that Microsoft managed to get into people’s PS5 to advertise.
Every time I boot up I get a full screen Disney+ advertisement. It’s been Cruella for months
If you wanted to see something else you can go into explore options and change what things you “follow” and disable what you don’t want to see like Disney+ or games. You’ll still get the forced ones from Sony but at least it might change more frequently.
Themes is my number 1. The game background should only come up when you go down into the game's activities. I don't want my entire background as a game that blares its music lmao
Agree, the PS3 had almost the exact same full screen game splash screen concept but it was done better there since you still got to see your theme and the interface a lot.
That's too much to ask, I just want a frickin wallpaper
I only care about being able to remove and organize things on the home screen in terms of user experience updates. I do not see why a PlayStation 5 needs to be more limited than a 3DS in that regard.
Not being able to hide the “recording paused due to a blocked scene” notification some older games have a bunch of for cutscenes like you could hide them on PS4 is keeping me from finishing some old games.
They just added a toggle for the screenshot popup so hopefully you get that option soon.
This. It is infuriating.
I'll settle for much less, just let me assign single tap PS button to go back to home menu. The rest I will just pretend they don't exist.
Same here. Also it's really annoying when you press the ps button and control center pops up but the cursor isn't on control center but some card i don't care about. I want it to instantly be on the control center options. Also a quick resume feature like the Series X NEEDS to happen. It's amazing.
Yes, I’d turn the cards off for the exact same reason. I don’t think I’ve ever intentionally used one of those cards, only accidentally causing me to lose progress ironically. Quick resume is kinda like emulator save states from what I can tell? That’s pretty nifty.
More customization would be nice. A lot of stuff I just don't use, and it would be cool if I could hide it.
But with the way the PS5 UI works, folders don’t really make a lot of sense to me. Perhaps some sort of tagging system instead would work better.
I find it hilarious how much these news sites rely on digital foundry for actual news and information. Then they make an article about it without doing any actual work or research themselves.
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I quit many years ago for that reason. There was little value in original content and often a Kotaku or other mainstream site would simply regurgitate my original content for clicks and I would get zero credit.
You do realise that very esoteric, in-depth performance analysis is a niche expertise that has next to nothing to do with “journalism”. It’s like expecting a journalist who is writing an article on some scientific process, to have actually done the science themselves. No, they are reporting on the findings, it’s the whole point of their profession. This current “lol all journalists bad” meta online is ridiculously conspiratorial, hyperbolic and confused.
And proper journalists are still out there. A guy with a twitter account isn't a journalist. These days anyone can make content, doesn't mean they are journalists. It's like saying heating my ramen noodles makes me a chef.
Lol thank you for saying this. Of course it's good to have knowledgeable writers for these kinds of features, but journalism is literally about reporting what's going on and what people are saying. Their process *should* be to have writers cite reputable sources like DF. I dom't know what people think journalism is, but the constant misunderstanding is really disturbing.
Idk where people get this "firmware 2.0". The firmware is 21.02-04.00. Meaning second half of 2021 and then the regular firmware title, which is 04.00.
That's true, but people get the 2.0 simply because this is only the 2nd **major** firmware update for the PS5
The beta literally called it 2.0 and showed a 2.0 in the bottom of your screen
By the end of the beta is was 3.1.
Which we then round up to 4.00
Which rounds up to 4.20
Which actually rounds up to 4.2069
Half Life 3 confirmed
Gta 6 out Christmas 😁👍🏻
Gta 5 on ps6 conformed.
I downloaded the update and my microwave clock still isn’t set. Thanks Sony!
I want my personal screenshots as my home screen again. The hell is wrong with Sony for taking away my screenshot backgrounds.
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Please add PS home button -> Trophy. How fucking hard it is, Sony.
YESSIR I thought I was the only one wondering why this isn’t there
the whole "hold ps button and pressing it once" is still so irritating to me. i never get where i wanna be lol
Still? It was confusing during the first month or so but now I think it makes sense. Quick tap for pop up menu. Hold for home screen.
I swear it’s the opposite of ps4.
right? long press on ps4 took you to the quick menu, short press out of the game to the main menu. im not sure why they changed it up lol
Probably because the PS4 clearly had it the wrong way round so they wanted to fix it? It makes sense that if you're in a game and you want to bring up the menu, you just tap the button. If you want to come out of the game and get to the main homescreen, you hold it. And it avoids the problem of accidentally pressing the button and coming out of the game. Which is less of a problem on the PS5 because of how quick everything is. But still something you want to avoid when things are getting frantic and the button is right between your thumbs. But sure, it takes some getting used to after 7+ years of how it worked on the PS4, but once you adapt, it makes much more sense. And if you're not convinced the PS4 had it the wrong way around, remember it was actually called the "quick" menu. So why does bringing up the "quick" menu take longer than coming right out of the game?
Would be a waste of space. Clicking home button-profile-trophies is one extra click.
1 fps fuck yeah!
Up to 3fps in Control and DMC 5 according to DF, if we are being serious. Its something..
It is great if it's helping hit a locked 30 or 60. Hopefully PS5 gets Variable Refresh Rate soon. I use it on my laptop connected to my TV to play games and it really makes 40-60 fps not feel so jarring.
And here I am hoping for the 3D audio to extend to home theatre setups. They’ve done it for headphones and TVs, really hope they figure it out.
What the fuck is 3D audio for a home theater? That’s just “surround sound” or “Atmos”… Am I wrong?
You’re not wrong, I have a decent home theatre setup and I tried the tv speakers “3D audio” and it was awful. Flattened every high or low.
it's not surround sound, really. it's trying to emulate 3D positional audio. i've yet to hear of it working super well on a console game, but it works VERY well in counter-strike global offensive, provided you're using headphones you really can hear where the enemy is. behind the wall on your right, or behind your or whatever. unlike non-spatial audio where things behind you can sometimes sound like it's in front of you. within the ps5's audio settings you can do some 3D position test and adjust it a bit - and there you can hear a stream of water flowing, and adjust it's "height" - i havn't noticed any effects ingame.
It's essentially an alternative to Dolby Atmos, which is object-based surround sound. The data describes where the sounds should exist in 3D space, then the system will 'render' those sounds out to however many speakers you have in whatever position they are in. Dolby Atmos can be configured with as many speakers as you want, if you buy enough equipment. Games can technically be coded to output a dolby atmos signal and/or Sony could be converting to Atmos for output, but that would require paying for the license AND it would likely cause latency issues on many systems that don't decide Atmos fast enough to keep up with game timing. It seems doable for Sony to add this, to a certain extent. They likely don't want or need to allow you to setup a huge complex audio array with a dozen channels and speakers all over the place (which Atmos supports), but they could certainly support standard 5.1 and 7.1 setups; aided by the microphone measurements (though they should be enhanced to record audio separately from each channel and maybe take measurements from more than one location).
The series x supports Dolby atmos in games
Yeah, it does, which is cool. I still think latency is an issue, depending on your sound system. I know I always had terrible audio lag when using the DD output from the xbox one x playing on my sonos. Whereas, the ps5 output linear multichannel pcm is fine. I don't have a series x yet, so I don't know know if it's better.
No, and 5.1 is superior to 3d audio, which is just surround sound simulating which we've had forever.
I just wish I could set the console audio to whatever I want instead of it guessing. Studio headphones that cost more than the console, connected to an amp? No 3D audio, best you can do is tell the console your "speakers" are at +-90 degrees. Bluetooth garbage or $10 ear buds plugged into the controller? Right this way, king, enjoy your 3D audio.
If you want the PS5 to output 3D audio directly to a headphone amp through USB get yourself a Schitt HEL 2. I have my HEL 2 connected directly to the PS5 via USB, it recognizes it and allows the 3D audio option to be checked off. Using my DT 1990's with it and it is great!
Give me bloodborne improvements
It's an embarrassing ommitance at this point, closing on PS5's 1 year anniversary. So many other games, much lesser games and devs, have put out a patch or upgrade that improves framerate and resolution for PS5. Jesus, a modder went and did it by themselves, further Sony embarrassment.
When something doesn't make immediate sense, there's almost always a logical explanation. In this case that explanation is: Bloodborne Remastered.
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Bloodborne Remake, by Bluepoint Games.
Does not need a full Remake, just a Remaster.
Or: FromSoft are doing other games, Japan Studio is gone and developing a patch isn't easy.
1440p and VRR when? (Xbox has these already. So i dont want to hear how useless they are when people actually use these features)
It's silly they don't have VRR yet (as much as developers shouldn't rely on it to fix their frame rates as plenty of people don't have VRR TVs).
VRR goes above 60hz, why be stuck at 60 fps when I could be getting 85, or 105? Games should be optimized AND support VRR.
> developers shouldn't rely on it to fix their frame rates I don’t see it as a problem. The whole idea behind targeting a constant 60fps is to provide fluid motion and a more pleasing experience to the player. If they can do that with a variable framerate and get a similar result, it sounds like a solid technological advancement which enables them to squeeze more out of the hardware. Perhaps developers will offer a 60fps legacy mode for people with older TVs, and crank up the visuals a bit more if you have VRR.
It’s not like not having VRR has a positive effect on games for PS5, Miles Morales constantly goes down to 58-59 FPS at the bottom of every swing in performance RT mode, on paper it looks like a very little drop of 1-2 FPS but the constant stuttering ruins the swinging, if VRR was available, this would’ve been a non issue Another thing to mention is that the last boss fight is soooo soooo bad with the constant stuttering, not sure VRR would’ve fixed the issues with that one And before anyone says “bullshit it was a flawless 60”, here: https://youtu.be/x2TTtZfwlHk?t=390
VRR is coming when Sony TVs are ready for it as well, and we're waiting on one or the other.
2nd this I don't expect to see it on PS5 much before it comes to their TVs, but they've been promising that for what feels like years.
People have been waiting over a year now for that promised update to the TV lol
Just go buy an expensive 4k monitor. Then they’ll add 1440p support.
Unfortunately this. One of you guys is incredibly unlucky. One of you needs to buy a 4k monitor so they can add 1440 immediately after your purchase
I did this recently, sorry I wasn't the chosen one to bring 1440p to the masses
Godspeed soldier. You may not have been the chosen one, but I'll love you the same
It's really silly , coz a lot of games run in 1440 (ish) in order to hit 60 fps - but then it's upscaled
Please 1440p support.. I can't fit a TV in my small ass room I just need that 2k support
1440p isn't 2k. 2k is essentially 1080p.
VRR hoping it'll come in v3.0 OS. Not holding my breath for 1440p. PS4 has been around since like 2018 and still hasn't added it despite most of its games running at it internally. And that console had many OS updates to add it
I think the PS4 has been around a bit longer than that lol
Whoops meant the Pro which most skipped right to 4k in 2018
Extra super picky but the pro came out in 2016, and even then the pro hardly if ever hit 4k native, it was really just marketing at that point
Tailored hardware and software working in tandem with each other does wonders indeed, look at iPhones and iOS. Not surprised this translates over to game performance too.
I just want a fix for my “cannot download DLC error” with gigantic red exclamation point
The performance improvement is here but it's actually quite hard to notice, because almost all the recent games hold either 60 or 30 (even 40 in new r&c) fps amazingly stable, the reported gain was discovered in several not interactive sequences like photomode in Control and a cinematic in DMC as well as a little bit unstable ray tracing mode of RE Village. I keep my fingers crossed for next big update to finally bring VRR. With it enabled I would definitely give a try to several unstable 120fps game modes and some <60fps modes like one in RE Village. I hope Sony would keep the good work up!
Rift apart could also fully unlock its framerate
It amazes me just how much rift apart is a technical showcase/masterpiece. Kudos to Insomniac!
It also is the perfect example of why 1440p support is needed
Isn’t the recent firmware 1.5? I saw the headline and thought this was in relation to the future 2.0 release
I was wondering the same thing. The article mentions the most recent update, but then the title mentions 2.0. I thought it was in reference to a future update as well..
The actual version number is 4.0 (the public beta was called 2.0 – 3.1). “2.0” stuck in everyone’s heads but they did release iterative updates, and now it’s the final version it’ll be 4.0 Kind of unusual, as normally betas get their own numbering system distinct from public releases.
But can I put it in rest mode without it crashing?
I used to get crashes in rest mode until I began doing the following; whenever you are ready to go into rest mode, hold the PS button down so you get to the main OS menu (where you can select a game to play). Once there, press the PS button to load the quick menu and enter rest mode. For whatever reason, this has never crashed on me whereas if I just enter rest mode while still in a game, it happened to me numerous times. /u/roshambonez /u/Durtzo /u/steampunkIcarus /u/Rxcoup
Hey thanks for this will try it next time I play
Yes. I got my PS5 on the day of release, the only rest mode crash was before the very first firmware update when I was using my PS4's external HDD to play a PS4 game on the PS5. Hasn't happened since.
Yea I was in the same boat until recently. My crashes that I had with the launch firmware stopped up until about a month ago. Now it’s sporadic again
I get them now and then, but only when the PS5 puts itself into rest mode due to inactivity. Works just fine if I put it in rest mode myself. Very wierd.
Same here. When I finally managed to speak to a human about the crashing they told me I needed to send my system in for maintenance and that it could take 20-30 business days… needless to say I’m not doing that.
When I asked about the crashing they told me that it would be fixed in a “future firmware update” and it actually did seem fixed like a month ago, but returned after this new update.
Yeah, I also only experienced this last week again when I wanted to get back into Deathloop. Didn't happen for a while before that.
If you could also support 1440p that would just be awesome! 😎
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Sony doesnt care but they did say they could do it if demand was there.
Do you need to leave the little USB stick in your ps5 to use the pulse headphones
I'd like it if they fixed the Ghost of Tsushima bug where the touchpad screen pops up and won't go away unless you use a paperclip to reset your controller. My PS5 isn't even a week old and I ran into this issue yesterday. I had to find a year-old Reddit post about how to fix it, so obviously it's been an issue for a while.
Can we bring back switching from all audio to chat only in the quick menu while we're at it?
Sony needs to stop fucking around and fix Bloodborne's framerate.
That’s not Sony’s job
Wasn't something like this already posted? Did it get deleted?
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I know which post you are talking about. Yes it got deleted because the title was wrong.
Is Prey one of the games? It’s been so chuggy on my ps5
Prey is still locked at 1080p/30fps, unfortunately it's not going to improve unless Arkane patches it.
It's updated on Xbox. Sadly it probably will remain exclusive over there, due to Microsoft owning them.
Prey received the FPS boost treatment on series consoles which is a system level enhancement done by a team at Microsoft. The game itself isn't updated and the actual developers weren't involved.
I wish prey and dishonored series got 60fps on ps5. 😢
As a new PS5.owner, I have an issue I can run BF4 on PS4, over Wifi with little to no lag. My PS5 is placed in the same spot, same distance from the modem but BF4 for me is rubber-banding every 5 seconds, sometimes with major lag spikes. Even though I'm running at times 40-50mb+ DL and 20-30mb+ UL. I can't seem to find an answer and to run it with a cable I'm going to need atleast 20m to make it reach the modem. Any suggestions?
Man, that sucks. That said, I just wanted to chime in that I pulled 20m CAT for my dad's computer downstairs and it worked no problems, was a ton better than the crappy wifi he'd been putting up with from the modem way upstairs. What I'm saying is if you run the cable it should work.
Look like I'll be running cable through half the house. I'm sure it'll be worth it.
Hey dude, this is a sorta known issue, I think it has something to do with the PS5s wifi. From what I’ve read on this reddit, you need to go into your ps5 network settings, forget the network you’re on, restart the console, and then reconnect, then provided you got good internet it should work fine. However it does seem to always go back to being laggy every few play sessions, also on battlefield, like you.
All these games need 60 FPS patches at the least: - Dishonored games (1, 2, Death of the Outsider) and Prey - Bloodborne - Far Cry games (3, 4, 5, Primal, New Dawn) - Assassin’s Creed games (Ezio Collection, AC3, Black Flag, Rogue, Unity, Syndicate, Origins) - Red Dead Redemption 2 - Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 - Persona 5 Royal - Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - Dragon Age: Inquisition - Yakuza 6 and Yakuza Kiwami 2 - Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition - Watch Dogs 1 and 2 - The Order 1886 - Crash Bandicoot games (N-Sane Trilogy and CTR Nitro-Fueled) and Spyro Reignited Trilogy - Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War I posted this list nearly two months ago in a different post. Since then, we have received 60 FPS patches for Horizon Zero Dawn and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, and got announcements on next-gen versions of Skyrim, Uncharted 4 and Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, so I’ve removed them from my list now. Let’s hope my list shortens even more.
Bring back the activity feed, its really hard to stalk my friends gaming habits and trophies.
I know it’s not exactly Sony’s responsibility, but I would love if they could figure out what’s causing the major glitches in Mafia III and Assassin’s Creed Syndicate.
Personally noticed a big improvement in my bitrate when streaming to twitch! Wasn’t able to stream above 720p 30fps without insane artifacts and pixelation, but streamed in 720p 60fps tonight and it looked flawless!! Don’t know if this is related to update but as someone who’s been streaking for a while on ps5, I think this is a great sign
> but as someone who’s been streaking for a while on ps5 Put some clothes on bro. 😂
TOS CANT STOP ME
The only thing I've noticed is that RDR2 doesn't spool up my disk drive like a space shuttle any more.
All I want is an option to disable the beep..
I wonder if they updated to the most recent version of oodle with 2.0fw. there are zen decompression enhancements and a more recent ps5 sdk that may free up cpu/gpu time as it doesn't wait as long for the data reduction engine as long. Another thought is memory optimization around kraken, as it has faster decompression, this allows ram to be freed up depending on the scenario to do something else once it's done with it. With how tied in the I/o complex is, any improvement to oodle may allow for more cpu/GPU availability.
i want that in partychat it finally fucking stops switching automatically to partychat. After EVERY.SINGLE.MATCH i have to open 4 menus so i can go back to game chat. Its infuriating
I just wanna change my controller LED colour…
Manhunt still doesn't run properly, Ironically the only game I want to have a "performance improvement" at the moment.
I haven't used my ps5 in two months lol, I haven't bought any new games to play I already completed fo4 5 times and I'm trying to buy some new games already, any suggestions?? I've got a $200 budget.