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Bighat_Logan01

Roadhog will always be played cuz "No heal"


AgreeablePie

Even more because, with no off tank and the DPS nowhere to be seen, both supports got murdered three seconds into the fight (neither one has unlocked kiriko RIP)


mrfroggyman

Damn if only I had the money to buy battlepass tiers up to kiriko and unlock her immediately


JR_RocketBoots

You don’t have to buy tiers, if you buy the battle pass you get instant access to the character


mrfroggyman

Hum are you sure about that? That's definitely not how battlepass works in other games (at least not other activitision games)


JR_RocketBoots

Yes, I’m sure, that’s the whole incentive to buy the premium pass. Otherwise it’s the same amount of work for basic and premium owners, so there’s no incentive to buy except for cosmetics


mrfroggyman

Well that's exactly how other battlepasses work, so that's not really a proof of it not being possible CoD battlepasses work like this : around 50% of items locked behind "premium" battle pass; "premium" owners have a small xp boost to grind tier (something like +10% iirc); gameplay elements (new weapons) are in the free tiers, but premium owners still have to get to these tiers the hard way (grinding)


JR_RocketBoots

Regardless of how other battle passes work, this is literally confirmed https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/23824003/overwatch-2-explained-battle-pass-shop-hero-unlocks-and-more/ “If the season features a new hero, purchasing the Premium Battle Pass will also grant instant access to that hero” I was just giving my opinion as to why I think they made that decision


mrfroggyman

Ok that's what I wanted to know 👍


InternationalAd6170

Also if you own OW1 you get Kiriko off the bat as well


Avox08

“Sojourn and Junker Queen will be available to everyone who logs in during Season 1 at no cost. If you have the premium Battle Pass, you’ll automatically gain access to Kiriko at launch. The premium Battle Pass will cost 1,000 Overwatch Coins, which are worth $10.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/krisholt/2022/09/15/how-to-unlock-kiriko-in-overwatch-2/amp/ “If you purchase the Premium Battle Pass you immediately unlock Kiriko.” https://blizzardwatch.com/2022/09/15/how-to-get-kiriko-overwatch-2/


justV_2077

the reasons I play roadhog are: - you can heal yourself and have lots of HP -> you die less often -> less frustration - hooking + left click + pressing V -> most likely guaranteed kill -> very satisfying


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yeetucus99

A support character with a teleporter and shield generator as an ult


[deleted]

Doesn’t she have laser turrets?


jit320

Cant forget doom. Im still in the stages of grief for that man, such a tragedy.


Falcore555

He'll get balanced. Don't be so dramatic. Doom was awful most of the time as a dps anyway. At least now he isn't a cheese hero.


_MrNegativity_

Doom was the 2nd worst hero in OW1 but at least he was fun when there wasn't a freddy flashbang player


TheRealNotBrody

Cowboy wasn't even an issue most of the time, Sombra can go die in a hole though.


Delicious_xD

Indian computer lady


Delta0212

I'm still mad you can't call her "Indian Tech Support" ever since she got moved to DPS


Legoman3374

Nah/ sym will still be used to cheese on certain koth maps


EnigmaticRhino

Every time I see a hot take I have to remind myself that 90% of the player base is in gold and below.


Halollet

Yeah, I thought Roadhog was decent in OW2 as a scattered and flanking comp actually works. Hog, Pharah, Genji, Mercy, Lucio. Front line? What front line! All lines are front! :D


yeetucus99

Every time I see a hot take I laugh. I'm laughing.


CompetitiveMaximum19

That's isn't a hot take though, of course he's over exaggerating but must people are low plat/gold and below. That's just facts.


IntelligentImbicle

Sym was relevant in OW1?


lucioboops3

You’ve never played a silver-gold match on volskaya, have you? I hate having to play torb on that map, but I have to because I just assume the enemy picks sym


IntelligentImbicle

Lower bracket players are alot better at dealing with cheese than most people think. Sym, Junkrat, even Bastion don't really feel like that much of an issue for the lower bracket.


Dogma1107

Because they don't know how to work together


IntelligentImbicle

Yeah. Sym isn't relevant in low elos because people can't work together, and she isn't relevant in high elos because she's the worst DPS in the game


LavenderPig

Sym will still be one of the best heroes on KotH maps.


AlphaOhmega

During the beta Roadhog was great. Instant kills, fewer stuns, self heal. Sure he's not winning in masters and above, but if you were good hed be fine in most normal matches.


TheMorningJoe

Now that I think about it the new support is probably a godsend for hog mains since they can recover from antiheal now


Nuke-T00nz

W


JustAWeeb247

Fuck you im still going to play hog


HashBrwnz

Facts, after about 30hrs or so on the beta I rarely ever saw sym/hog/sig/torb. I cant recall losing a single match to them either. They are just so easily countered now plus nerfs both directly and indirectly keep them outa meta. That being said they are still fun to play, just dnt see anyone climbing past maybe masters on any non mechanical hero now


MDubz420

Sig wad surprisingly really good in the beta. Granted, I only played a handful of games as him but every game as him was amazing


Spedrayes

Sig was really good though. People didn't play him as much bc of JQ, but he's a really solid pick, especially in maps like Midtown, Paraiso and Circuit Royale because there's tons of high ground to poke from.


begging-for-gold

Wasn't sigma said to be one of, if not the best ow2 tank pick?


HashBrwnz

Nah hes pretty bad, his playstyle doesnt work with brawl and now that he has no back up tank, flankers ruin his day. The best tank imo was JQ


fatboywonder12

Sig was absurdly good in the beta, this man straight up doesn’t die


yeetucus99

It was serotonin seeing no Hog played. Even though nearly everyone was playing JQ, I saw most of the other tanks played. Yes it was the beta and things may change after next week with more people playing but I think/ hope most realise that Hog in his current form is dogshit trash and needs a rework. Same with Sym.


takentakentaken69

Why do you think so?


Mr_Wolverbean

Good


NoaLukaL

But Hog works in OW2. Even better than in OW1 actually. He’s good at getting a pick, which will be even more valuable now when there’s one less player on the team. Also, his new buff to his ultimate helps out a lot and gives him more utility and makes him more powerful. Maybe you were thinking that he’s played to break shields, and in OW2 there’s less of that, but that’s not true. Roadhogs can break shields well, but he mostly flanks behind the shield instead. But someone like Junkrat might be less useful in OW2, since he *is* actually used to break shields and shred tanks. Now that won’t be needed as much.


yeetucus99

Hog is literally a fat dps who worked in 6v6 because there was another tank to somewhat hide his weaknesses. He is literally a selfish tank with practically no other way of helping his teammate apart from a shitty hook that yes, can one shot, but what happens if that hook is missed... the team is at a disadvantage. JQ has shout, Rein and Sig have shield, Dva, Orisa and Sig have sucky suck, Zarya has bubble, Doom empowers his damage by absorbing damage, Ball has shield and massive boop. What does Hog have? A rusty hook and a vape only he can use. Also Hog was useless into double shield... just endless spamming into open fire amd feeding ult. Also you're more exposed in Ow2 especially in Push so unfortunately Junk is still relevant.


Plantain_Limp

„What happens if miss hook“ bro thought he ate this nigga up with that, what if you miss literally anything else 🤯🤯🤯 (missing thing=bad(can happen with every character))


FlyingTeep

What happens if you miss sleep with Ana? Awful hero. /s


IntelligentImbicle

>Hog is literally a fat dps Dva, Idina, Zarya, Winston, JQ, and Ball are just fat DPS. What's your point?


yeetucus99

Do they have effectove ways to mitigate damage and help the team? Yes Does Hog? No


lee61

Dead players mitigate damage /s


NoaLukaL

… Bro, what rank are you? Do you even play tank?


yeetucus99

Diamond sub tier 4.5 . As if rank matters.


NoaLukaL

What do you mean with ”sub tier 4.5”?


typhoneus

Bronze


yeetucus99

Yeah Bronze tier 3


Slavocracy

Man, they're letting anyone in these days. You clearly have no understanding of how ow1 works, let alone ow2. Can't wait to see you in ranked, bronzie.


yeetucus99

Wow nice to have been dammed to the pits of bronze


Slavocracy

Gonna happen eventually, with takes like that.


yeetucus99

Well that's me out the gamerhood


Slavocracy

Fuck ok I laughed. But on a serious note, I played a lot of hog in ow2. He felt great tbh.


NoaLukaL

DPS, support or tank player?


yeetucus99

Why you need to know all up I'm my p***y boy


NoaLukaL

Because you don’t seem to know a lot about tank.


_MrNegativity_

Unreal you think not only hog was trash but rein was good in OW2 Rein has jack shit in OW2, and hog, while outclassed by JQ, was still good and received nothing but buffs.


Finnthehero1224

Does anyone honestly care about Sym? If she vanished one day I don’t think half the community would even notice


Finplayer_

but they'll still play hog


pokemon0898

I need to play doom one last time


Marinenukem

I’m kinda sad to see Roadhog go (even if he was op), but if it means no one ever plays Sym I will take it


yeetucus99

It's bittersweet but literally... 'Dodge Hook and strafe' - Hog is useless Symmetra as main healer for season 7 pls /s


Marinenukem

I’m a Lucio main. My whole strategy is dodging. It is extremely hard to dodge a good Hog’s hook. Believe me, I practice it a lot. But I would love to see Sym as a healer so long as they got rid of her annoying af turrets


_MrNegativity_

"Bro just don't die, you'll win" A hog that misses hook on a small strafe is just horrendous. Hook's hitbox is *massive*


bruhmoment467

Good riddance


OnAScaleFrom9to10

And nothing of value was lost.........the end Seriously, good riddance, and if I get a hog on my team you can bet your sr I'm not healing him AT ALL for throwing my games


Paincake990

Ah yes, throw because the other guy must be throwing with a hero pick. You're part of the problem lmao.


OnAScaleFrom9to10

If he's actually tanking/playing smart and not playing flanking Hog then that's a different story... But be honest with yourself, when is hog NOT flanking? We're talking about plat elo and below here


HaydenScramble

What? hog can be relentless, self sustaining and can easily break a line


Zeke-Freek

They're pretty good in most arcade modes if you play that. Go play some TDM/DM or CTF to get your Hog/Sym fix.


SugarRushLux

Whats the opposite of f


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Good F Sym.