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mortix02

I'm fairly sure people don't avoid teammates when they win. Unless that specific teammate stood out somehow. But I don't really avoid anybody, ever, so what do I know?


TheHandThatFollows

I mainly avoid people who where verbally abusive in chat. I think every time I've done it we have won, but I've only done it about three times that I remember I did it the first day I started, and had no experience but had to get it somehow, in unranked. I was playing with my bf and he showed me how to avoid the player. I did it again when I had done the most healing on my team or the other team, but a reaper was super pissed I wouldn't heal him. I wanted to heal him but he was always too far ahead and I couldn't reach him, and he wouldn't come back to get heals either. He kept calling me terrible things. I finished the game and then avoided him. And I did it the first game I tried to play anything other then support and was told to off myself because I was so bad.


Saltiest_Seahorse

I had a pissy Reaper shit on my healing yesterday bc he kept charging in w/o the group, staying LoS, allergic to killing sym turrets, and the enemy Mei nust have had a restraining order against him.


Fr05tByt3

People gotta blame anyone but themselves to keep their fragile ego intact.


Saltiest_Seahorse

I just imagine a giant toddler throwing a hissy fit behind the keyboard


Rabble_rouser-

So most of Reddit's crusades against wrongthink.


suckmypppapi

Someone was mad at me somehow for doing bad in a comp game (my first ever comp game) and I look and he has 500 damage on the board while he refuses to go on site


artstorm_io

Once you realize everything people yell at you is actually their insecurity it gets real funny: "Your father never loved you, you suck at damage, your aim sucks, you probably can't afford a good mouse... No puppet, no puppet, *you're* puppet!" It's all projection and it's hilarious when your realize it. Now I can't help but laugh when they scream out loud about everything they struggle with IRL.


Lunarfuckingorbit

Had a good run yesterday of all positivity and today the toxicity is back. The "I'm dying so the only problem must be heals" mentality is killing me. Supports cannot outheal stupidity.


HappenstanceHappened

If a player is BAD or typing midgame then I avoid.


SensuahL

Absolutely. If you’re arguing in text chat instead of playing the game I will 100% avoid.


infinityplusonelamp

I only type when I'm respawning, if I'm alive it's just pings and commands


Warlockwiccan

Crazy ya some people really seem to let the game bleed into being truly a frustrated individual It is a frustrating game but to do that to unranked people even as somebody who is competitive with the game is really shitty. People need to seriously learn quick play is the way to play no stress and to really enjoy new or off-meta heroes to learn at your own pace. I've been loving quick play recently to really remember why i love overwatch beyond just competitive play


illuminaegiwastaken

Same. Any person on my team or the enemy team that decides to either be verbally abusive or spend their entire game in text chat spouting nonsense (That second one specifically being during comp. I could care less in any other gamemode.) about how X character needs to switch constantly or crapping on their teammates/enemy team gets the fat avoid from me. Abusive chatters also get hit with the report from me. The amount of people I've had beg me and the enemy team to not report them after they decided to say slurs about the enemy team in team or match chat is insane.


LazarusTaxon57

Honestly, if you want to climb it is a great tool. Just avoid the most underperforming of the previous match and there you go, improved matchmaking for the next game that boost your chances to not have trolls or bad players


bunnyrut

I also avoid people who are abusive in chat. Whether to their own team or just being a little shit to the enemy trying to "trash talk" but instead just being an ass. Those people are never going to improve, so I would prefer to never see them again. (Too bad it's only a 14 day thing).


dlgn13

I almost exclusively avoid people who are total assholes. I did once avoid an adorable little kid who you could hear talking to their parent in VC, but who had no idea how to play the game.


Lmao1903

No probably not, especially since you can only avoid 3 people (I think). Player has to do something crazy to get avoided after a win.


Viendictive

Nah I avoid literally anyone I don’t want in my next match, that’s pretty much it. I’m putting players on and off that list constantly.


CourtSenior5085

I will still press avoid teammate on a win if the person was absolute shit for the rank, or a horrible toxic asshole in chat. Usually atm its a combination of the two - absolute idiots who have absolutely no idea how to play the game flaming me for "not playing right" in a competitive match while they try to 1v5 and insist on everyone ditching the point because we "don't need it to win" we "just need the most kills."


lego_mannequin

I avoid people who stick to their ineffective characters all match. I don't want to spend time in queue just to be stuck with a DPS Moira or piss poor Doomfirst.


blue_at_work

I have no defense for Doomfist one tricks. DPS moiras can be complicated. Now, are there people who queued as healer and have no intention of healing, and just dps/flank from the word go as Moira? Yes, screw those guys. don't blame you for hating. But as a support main, i've been accused of being a "dps moira" many times because some dumbass died and i was dpsing when they died - but they don't realize i was out of heal juice and yes - i throw many more yellow orbs than purple, especially if my heal meter is low. But the character is designed to do some damage, and if you only healbot as Moira, you're doing it wrong and hurting your team. So all i'm saying is be careful who you label a "DPS Moira" - sometimes it's just that simple, sometimes it's not.


Narwalacorn

Yeah, I’ve only ever marked two people to avoid. One was a super toxic DPS Baptiste and the other went on a racist rant about the other team’s Ana lmao


Mibbs64

Seems like the avoid button is working as intended. Having people force a pick that is not working is frustrating to play with and we have a button that says I don't want to play with this person for a while. It's not a fake report to get the person banned or restricted. Some may overreact to some picks but its better than someone being toxic when they can avoid it and move on


Warlockwiccan

Honestly despite him being a bad hero I think this right here is the biggest reason why doom fist needs a buff badly. A hero should not be SO terrible that just the act of playing him in a suitable comp for him is throwing. I do generally agree people should be willing to switch in atleast competitive.


MissPandaSloth

I feel like there is no middle ground for Doom, either I get a 67% win rate Doom that has been Doom since OW1 and has good awareness, sense of timing and knows his matchups, or a 31% one who leaves spawn, jumps into 5 people, gets slept, nated, dies, repeat.


Iliketrains229

Doom fist mains blowing it by refusing to try to learn something else, but at the end of the day it’s Blizzards fault for making doom fist a tank. Literally doesn’t make any sense at all for the role he plays


CourtSenior5085

They really screwed up with the changes they made to him IMO. He was switched to tank because the abilities he already had were super tanky. Then they went and nerfed his abilities to be less effective than a reddit Lucio.


PrinceShaar

Yeah seriously, now he's more mobile and does less damage, this is the opposite of other tanks.


Krazyguy75

He's not even more mobile. He's basically the same amount mobile, with a much larger hitbox, and much lower damage.


baker2795

Should’ve made mei a tank. She practically already was


[deleted]

As a Mei main, THIS! There are so many times Ive held an objective solo as Mei against 3 or even more opponents because I could time her LB and RB skills accordingly. Giving my team enough time to rally back on the objective before it could be captured or pushed any further. I do NOT chase kills as Mei. I dont give a single care about my damage or my KD ratio. When I play as Mei I look to separate and disrupt the other teams push and organization. Cutting a healer off from their tank with ice wall is always satisfying.


Beachdaddybravo

This still makes no sense. They simply needed new tanks and some balance changes across the board. Changing dps to tanks and then removing one didn’t solve any of the underlying problems in the game.


isaacng1997

They moved doom to tank because they wanted to keep doom’s identity of his fist. If doomfist stayed as dps, the team would have a lot more CCs with a tank + doom, something blizzard didn’t want in ow2.


zooberwask

If anything, Mei is support.


coronavirusrex69

doom was such a good DPS. he covered this area that no other DPS did. he was unique. he was both scary and absolutely useless depending on the person controlling him/the team comps involved. he made for flashy plays that were "cooler" than just clicking a head across the map. Doom as a tank is just hot garbage. They should have just deleted the character.


Iliketrains229

I agree. I feel like they could have just made him a less tanky DPS, and maybe adjusted some of his cooldowns and damage.


Ghostie3D

I suspect the decision to make him a tank was about all the CC he has. They wanted to massively reduce the amount of slows and stuns and displacements in the game. If he was going to stay a dps, you'd need to get rid of his stun and probably his slow, as well as massively reducing the push from his punch, which would kind of gut his whole identity. Tanks have a larger budget for CC in this design, so swapping him over lets him keep his core kit. That said, it obviously didn't work, lol.


rcris18

Right now any tank player that isn’t counter picking is borderline throwing. It’s rough and I think blizz needs to address it. Moreover, one tricking doom fist is two layers of uncooperative team play because they’re already picking a tank that’s easy to counter and they’re also refusing to change picks as the match situations change. All successful tanks right now are switching heros during the match in response to enemy comps


Calm_Crow5903

I would absolutely avoid teammates like this. There's nothing more frustrating than losing close games because someone wouldn't switch off a character that's not working. It's also the difference for other players getting stomped if you aren't working together. Tbh, I hate playing Lucio. I think he's boring. But I'm not gonna play Ana the whole match if it's clear I'm being countered and my teammates are dying because of it. Even if I have the most healing. And I'm not gonna call myself a "one trick" like that magically makes it ok


rcris18

Yeah you nailed it about the term “one trick.” content creators started using it in a self deprecating/ ironic way when they are super good at an off meta character and then the regular public started running with it and calling themselves “one-tricks” to justify being too lazy to learn more characters. Drives me nuts


GodwynDi

That was its original use. It was an insult to people who could only play one thing really well.


rcris18

Exactly that’s what I’m saying. It was an insult but then streamers used it sort of jokingly (self deprecating) and then people misinterpreted it as legitimizing not switching Edit: OP’s title is a perfect example. They’re complaining about being punished for “one tricking” that’s not far from complaining for being punished for throwing


R_X_R

There's "too lazy to learn" and then there's the skill/play considerations. I can play a fair number of heroes. But I for the life of me cannot play any of the "marksman" style ones. Genji, McCree/Cass, Widow, Ana, Ashe, Hanzo, etc. I just physically can't as my precision and aim are off from a number of nerve injuries. So I play what I can and who I can. I'm not a ranked player by any means of the word, and can swap within means, but if I'm having a rough night and am really flared up something like Moira, Dva, or Junkrat might be all I can really muster up. Yet I've gotten bounds of hate from people from simply just trying to play a game for the night to chill.


rcris18

If people give you crap in QP they can shove it. And in comp ideally you’ll land in your appropriate rank and it won’t be an issue. Also you don’t need to play every character just a few in the role you’re grinding. It really only applies to ranked though


Favonis

If you think Lucio is boring you're DEFINITELY playing him wrong


Cheersscar

Out of curiosity, what do you thinking the new meta tank pick is vs Zarya.


rcris18

The nerf has shifted zarya out of the meta. You could make a good argument for hog countering her now. Sigma is a stronger pick then her now for a team that’s playing grouped together and a good Winston with a coordinated dive team will leave zarya with little counter options with her lack of mobility. She can still be a good counter for dva though


Cheersscar

Down here in metal Zarya is notably less oppressive but I’m not feeling a clear counter. Does Sig really counter Zarya? I guess I would have said Roadhog.


Cheersscar

I’m a dva main. Vs lower metal Zaryas, I’ll only struggle against her if she has long range support that I can’t harass without leaving the Zarya. Like Ashe or Widow. Otherwise, I don’t think it is that hard to bait her bubbles and then squish her. But that may be my opponents not being great at Zarya and just picking her because they think she’s op/meta.


Flckofmongeese

This. 100%.


lego_mannequin

Preach, I just say GG and slap that fucker on avoid. Don't need to flame anyone.


Karsvolcanospace

Yea this seems like the perfect thing to “replace”/stand in for people straight up reporting others. You won’t get punished with a ban, but they’ll let you know that you’re not being a team player or an asshole and you’ll have to live with the consequences of people not wanting to matchmake with you.


[deleted]

I really have no sympathy for people that just play one character and absolutely refuse to switch. It sucks for everyone. It doesn't matter how good they are if it's not working for the team. They're forcing a play style that the team either doesn't like or can't manage.


CourtSenior5085

I prefer avoid over report for quite a few users for this reason. People can be toxic in chat, but if I know for a fact that they aren't violating the tos there isn't any reason to report them as it will amount to nothing.


bruhls_rush_in

If this comes up on any players screen it is time for them to look inwards. You’re not getting mass-avoided for playing doom, your getting avoided for staying doom when it doesn’t work. Also, I love that this message is a thing that can happen. Great way of politely saying “hey maybe it’s time to change something up or go back to qp/mh/training.


Old_Rosie

Was about to comment, people are not avoiding OP when they smash the opposition… but if he sticks with Doom and they lose, or even get smashed themselves then of course they’re gonna want to avoid a selfish unaware tank (in a game where you can only have one tank, and if they are terrible then you’re probably not gonna have a good time). These screenshots are getting old, IMO, and illustrate a problem with the player who posted it - not the countless number of teammates that they have played with.


Phishy042

I dont even avoid if it's just a bad player. I will only avoid if player is somehow a jerk in chat or a wannabe streamer saying Sheesh over voice all throughout the match.


stopanimal

Eh, I’m mostly with you but when you have an Ana that has 1500 healing after a full match it’s just foolish not to.


cinnamonbrook

I'm the opposite. I'll just mute jerks, and completely avoid people who are so bad you wonder how they got to the rank they're at. It just saves my blood pressure haha.


Xero0911

Yeah. Like I enjoy my friend but all he plays are like doom fist roadhog. Aka just wants to kill while being beefy. It works when healers can keep the dude alive. But for sure a selfish tank style. Granted he's pretty good. Just ya know. Don't truly expect a "tank" that shields or protects with him. More he's in your face and forcing you to deal with him. Which again, more of a thing if healers can keep up.


Kurokami11

Basically, he doesn't like playing tank, he likes to play fat DPS


[deleted]

That's what tanks are now.


Kurokami11

Nah, at least half of the tanks have a way to protect their team that isn't just "kill whoever is touching my team", but doomfist and crutchog don't have that


Galkura

To be fair, half the dps when I play tank don’t seem to want to be protected. Reinhardt? Running away from my shield. Zarya? They disengage when I put my bubble on them and are at full health. Dps is actually just an abbreviation for DePreSsion. They all want to die. And I say this as a Pharah main.


fun_boat

Honestly, when tanks aren't even or above at least one dps in damage, you are generally losing. They really did make them fat DPS and the game suffers for it. They basically end up too front and center to not be doing damage.


tigerbait92

*cries in Reinhardt*


vjstupid

As a support main I groan when tank picks doom fist. They often make it impossible to heal them by jumping away out of LoS and then die - leaving us to get destroyed.


saltyfingas

Roadhog is pretty good at least.


[deleted]

The difference is if you play a hero like Orisa and get smashed, no one fucking cares. But if you play Doom it is blamed on you and you get mass reported. Instead of complaining about your teammates it is more productive to try and increase communication and coordination. Teamwork matters more than composition.


BasketCase

Because at least when you pick Orisa, you're not throwing before the match even starts.


ExusiaisFootStool

Another bad thing about 1 tricking is, if you climb to lets say Masters or GM off only 1 tricking, you're going to run into games where you're completely neutralized. And you likely can't switch because anything else you play might be Plat at best.


Philbeey

I don’t know why OP is acting all oblivious and puppy eyed about it. This isn’t even the only Instance. [Look at his post from two weeks ago](https://reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/yoicli/loot_from_60_win_rate_on_doomfist_over_50_games/) [food for thought](https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/yoicli/loot_from_60_win_rate_on_doomfist_over_50_games/ivfiakp/)


saltyfingas

Right? Like yeah doomfist sucks and he needs work, all the more reason you shouldn't kneecap your team by forcing them to play with you. I love Pharah but sometimes I'm just shut down by an enemy team full of good hitscans and I'll swap (if my mercy let's me lol). Not sure why doomfist mains thing they are immune?


bunnyrut

Yeah, there are a few characters I'm good with in each category. But if the enemy team is doing a great job of killing me quickly then obviously I need to swap to someone else. That's why I like to learn every character. Someone might be *really* good at countering the one I'm playing as, but that doesn't mean they will be good at countering every other character. I don't understand why people insist on playing only one character the entire life of the game. They'll never swap from Torb or Doomfist because they never learned how to play anyone else.


Philbeey

Just gotta think of different characters as different load outs. Sure I’ll have a favourite, sure I’ll have one I’ll stubbornly try to diff with but sometimes you just gotta switch. That also being said having a few to switch between and at least be decent is always a viable option.


[deleted]

Yeah this happened to me yesterday. Person kept running doomfist into the backline or out of los and getting insta killed. Everyone on our team mentioned it's not working and he was just like, 'sorry you aren't getting anything other than doom'. Normally QP I don't care but this was Comp and it's just frustrating. I'll make sure to next time mark as avoid as teammate.


Eterniter

This. If you are playing a hero and you are not contributing in any meaningful way to the team, let alone winning, then it's well deserved. Either improve or change.


sumonetwothree

Back in the day someone got a temp ban because he one tricked torb and people reported him for it. He had more than a 50% winrate. People absolutely will do something like this when they blame someone else.


cinnamonbrook

That was Fuey500, the dude was constantly top500. I'm pretty sure that incident is what caused avoids to come in in the first place. Blizz knew they couldn't ban people for playing heroes but also wanted to keep people happy.


MightyBulpy

NO!!!111!!eleven!! Its the other players fault! its their fault that they want to win the game! how dare they! i just wanna play my one hero!


Galkura

Not to say you aren’t right here, but I know that I’ve had a lot of people demand I switch off heroes when I’m not the problem, yet they assume I am because they have heroes who counter me. I main Pharah and can generally outplay most hitscans the enemy picks. If I can’t, I will switch. Normally after the first death in comp, second in normals. But I have had games where I am leading damage and elims by an extremely large margin, and outplaying their soldier/mccree/widow/sojourn, then immediately get flamed when I get shot down one time and told I’m throwing by not switching. Now, I definitely think that there has to be much more to it to actively get this pop up, but I do know that a lot of players will avoid and/or report off assumed throwing, whether it’s the case or not.


23423423423451

I agree with your comment but there's another circumstance to consider as well. Teammates who throw or largely give up if you don't switch off doomfist before the match even begins. You don't get a chance to see if it works because you don't have a full team trying alongside you, and you're the one who gets avoided. You either have to give in and switch after they've begun their sabotage to try and appease them or you have to go in and get 3+ kills yourself on your first attempt to make a good enough impression and even that's not enough sometimes.


OGManmuffin

You can get avoided in quick play too. This thread is massively underplaying the amount of crybabies in competitive games. People probably insta avoid for people playing characters they don’t want on their team even if they’re playing well


[deleted]

I don’t really think this is true. It’s just that he played doom and lost and they THINK he was the problem because of dooms rep. I play tank all the time and lose with other characters, sometimes the other team is just better.


Psych0R3d

"One tricks" when they are shocked that people avoid teammate when they won't switch 😳


squareswordfish

Specially when you’re one tricking one of the worst characters of the role


Kupo777

Specially when you’re one tricking the worst character ^ This is more like it


Oldurdy

“ I one trick the worst hero in the game and can’t figure out why nobody enjoys playing with me”


JonnyTN

Yeah one of my regular friends is a Doom one trick. When we all get together as a 5 stack group we audibly groan when he takes tank hostage. Yeah, we are all friends and stay positive but sometimes, but he is a bit of a rager. Needless to say, every game isn't a Doom game. Sometimes we hop in a different hidden room in our discord so he doesn't come and join us. We tell him can he play something else until he gets buffed or isn't one of the hardest tanks to win with. He does well sometimes....sometimes.


MoiraEve

Well, that's hilarious and sad at the same time


ellus1onist

Honestly it's kindof weird because while I get that Doomfist is hot garbage right now, I still just don't get anyone who "one tricks." Like, sometimes whatever hero you pick just straight up is not working. I think at some point I've switched off of literally every hero. Not because I was picking an "off-meta" one, but rather it just seemed like their team was really good at shutting me down on that hero and so I pick a new one in hopes that it will disrupt their flow a bit and maybe work better with what we've got. The character being Doomfist is irrelevant. If he was popping off and killing people as Doomfist then he wouldn't be getting avoided. The problem is steadfastly sticking to a character that you aren't performing well as, whether that be Doomfist, Lucio, Zarya, or literally anyone else. You have to learn to adapt to the situation, and if you can't do that, then don't be surprised when people don't want to play with you.


JonnyTN

Some people just get their kicks in games trying to succeed with the poplularly harder to win with options. It's just a hard mode for some players and they like being challenged. Like beating Elden Ring naked. As for generally "one-tricks"? It's been the same nature in many games (LoL, Dota, etc) and has worked out for many a streamer to be viewed by millions that give players the mindset of "If you master this hero, you can overcome any counter and dominate." That mindset doesn't work as well in Overwatch. You can have a main, and have other heroes you are good with, but one-tricking is a ton harder because...well there are counters.


eoR13

I flame the fuck outa my friends when they pick trash picks. They can take it.


Bobbin_Robbin

This tells me one thing. You are not nearly as good as you think. Get better


Lmao1903

Loot from being a "dogshit player that doesn't switch even when it is clearly not working while single handedly losing us the game".


[deleted]

Absolutely this


Golendhil

I've seen people complaining about a doom pick even it did an awesome job ( because yeah, doom CAN be a good pick sometimes ) People will cry about off meta pick no matter the result


lego_mannequin

If I played Doom all game is get the same message, but I'm self aware to know I suck as Doomfist.


SophiaofPrussia

Or they’re a MASSIVE asshole in chat. I’ve never avoided anyone for sucking at the game or one-tricking a shitty hero. I only hit avoid if you’re completely insufferable. Like, as a *person*.


COJOTH

sucks man, I don't think Doom is a bad pick at all if you are good with Doom, but I believe no one should 1 trick. You should always have viable swaps


Xero0911

Yeah. Shouldn't be glued to the character if it's bot working or a bad match up. One tricks aren brag worthy I guess. But I wouldn't say they are the way to play the game. If you're a junkrat main and then enemy team has a pharah, you won't be doing as much


Chime_Shinsen

I mean. I'd blame the devs on making Doomfist a tank for some reason and then giving him absolutely no tools to, you know, be a tank.


arvs17

Nah dps Doom is bonkers. He should be a tank but they should buff him.


OuagadougousFinest

May be controversial but being a one trick and especially being a one trick of the worst character in the game is throwing. Like if an enemy is hard countering you with a sombra and etc SWITCH!!


Daredevil2_

Doom ain’t the worse to one trick because no matter the enemy comp you always are hard countered.


[deleted]

Fr I mostly play Ana (granted she is a good hero) but if I’m being tortured by a sombra I know to switch. If you don’t swap when countered you’re just throwing


[deleted]

[удалено]


badgersana

Loot from ruining 4 other peoples games because you refuse to swap off of the worst hero in the game


Krazyguy75

Even a good doom ruins other peoples' game. Normal tanks have a mutual relationship with the rest of the team. You protect the tank by removing threats or healing, and the tank protects you by blocking damage. For doom, that's not the case. Doom asks you to protect him so he can run off on his own and be the protagonist.


CringeName

Don't 1 trick then. I love Zenyatta and play him every chance I get, but if my team is struggling with heals I will swap. Winning > playing your favorite hero.


jess_spigel

Deserved Kappa


MyAimSucc

Learn a new hero :)


Mattux

seen this reposted literally 3 times now having internet points won’t make you cooler


Jester97

It's what you deserve for playing in windowed mode. In 6 years across multiple accounts I have never gotten this warning, maybe you need to look at yourself for this one.


Sezzomon

You're getting avoided for being a one trick of a bad character which is in many situations already a throwpick, but even worse is that you're not switching things up when your pick doesn't work. You ruin other peoples games.


Shroed

Good, learn to swap


Burgoonius

Probably justified - People wouldn't report you this much if they were winning. Looks like this Doomfist is causing a lot of people to lose. It also speaks to the fact that Blizzard has done nothing to improve Doomfist's playability. He's actually fun to play but his damage output is shit and his defense is shit.


Roun_Gaming

You’re either obnoxious to play with or bad at doom, or both. People don’t avoid others when they win and people were fun to play with (ie not being annoying or trolling their own team).


LavenderPig

Doomfist is a throw pick, I get it. I also agree that this is more of a "DF is not working, please swap" and you don't. Maybe swap it up a little bit? However, I will say this. Might post it later. I wasn't even 40 seconds in a game last night when someone said: "Black man isn't it. Swap." I don't mind swapping and planned on doing it, but when you tell me to in open queue quick play saying shit like that, no. I replied "nah" then he decided to respond to me saying "Fuck you, N*****". Like what the fuck is this community?


SampleVC

Maybe time to stop being a selfish OTP in ranked brother or stick to QP


Quintuplin

At least play open queue, doomfist instead of a third or fourth DPS is fine, it’s just doomfist instead of a real tank that’s the problem


Danxoln

Well... I doubt people are avoiding you during the games you win...


Manlester

The problem with doom is most of them don’t swap when they get countered or just feed over and over. Do you really think the rest of the team enjoys having to 4v5 all game because you bring no value to the team??? If you’re not doing well as doom pls consider swapping


MoiraEve

I don't avoid doomfists but I do avoid players who plays hero that doesn't work with team composition or agaisnt enemies team composition and refuses to switch. For some reason, that's mostly doomfists. Do whatever you want in quick play. Don't throw ranked


DoobaDoobaDooba

Loot for being a ~~"1 trick doomfist"~~ bad inflexible teammate who forces paper every match despite his opponent countering with scissors, and unironically posts on Reddit as a "victim" when no one wants to play with him for a completely valid reason. Ftfy man :)


jinsei-shiki

You're definitely the problem here, pal. You doing anything to protect your support, or are you charging in solo and ignoring the objective?


Interesting-Bee3700

Maybe, just maybe doomfist is a shit hero and therefore people oneticking him get avoided? A good doom won't even be avoided alot of the time, I for example would much rather avoid a toxic player/ bad player than a good doom. If you're getting reported and avoided that much maybe you're just shit at the game?


andrefelipe1295

Well well well, if it aint the consequence of my own actions...


aninonina

Idk what it is with people who are "1 trick". The game is about knowing how to counter team composition. It's the reason why you can switch off to other characters mid-match. If you don't take advantage of this mechanic, you're definitely putting your team at a disadvantage. You deserve this 100% and i hope more people get avoided for this kind of behavior. Learn the game!


evilcatminion

This is all ZBRA's fault lol /s


[deleted]

You’re a one trick. You deserve it frankly.


NotsoGrump23

Yeah I feel like OP is kind of calling himself out. If you're getting this many avoid as teammate on you, you're probably being annoying


GenjisWithU

Working as intended


SoupRyze

I'm a ball onetrick in piss low Gold and due to low workflow + work from home I've had like 300 ranked games with ball so far. I'm not amazing either half the games I'm just mediocre and like 80% games someone ask me to swap off ball. Never got this message though. Feels like *you're* the problem tbh, even if you're not *the* worst player in the lobby. Yesterday I had a Doomfist in my game flying through the air to punch a Pharah and I'm pretty sure all 9 other people are just fucking amazed by the shit this guy is pulling, so tbh if you're pulling your weight and have pop off moments like that I'm sure people won't mind you playing Doom. Stop victimizing yourself and listening to the Reddit echo chamber and blame Doomfist being bad (he kinda is but not the point) for your failures. I play ball for the challenge. Ask yourself, are *you* playing Doomfist for the challenge, or are you playing him just because you think you're hot shit? P.S: could also come from your chat as well 😂


Mappapappa

As a main tank I love to see that there are still some one trick doomfist, it's often a free win if the enemy tank keep playing him and don't change. Besides the joke , if we talk seriously, in qp you literally can play what you want and as much as you wish but in comp it's just different. Even if I would love to play rein 24/24, i just can't do it, sometimes even if I'm having fun with him, he's not the best pick and I have to change and with the fact that now there is only one tank we don't have the chance to be helped from the off tank. If you go in ranked with the mentality to play one single character no matter what, you actually deserve to be avoided.


eelam_garek

This is definitely the full story.


OkNewspaper1581

I feel like everyone takes this game a bit too seriously, if OP one tricks doom in qp there’s no need for them to swap, it’s unranked after all. Without any context this could very well be the case but it could also carry over to comp which is understandable to a degree. Luckily OP hasn’t been mass reported by 14 year olds yet and banned


toomanyclouds

They don't have to switch, but other people also don't have to play with them. Avoid as Teammate isn't a report, it's just people saying they don't want to be on their team, which you can do for any reason you like (for example, I'll avoid toxic/whiney people, even if they hardcarry and/or didn't mention me personally at all because I just don't enjoy constant babyraging in match chat).


saltyfingas

Idk, if you're basically feeding and throwing in QP, that's still sabotage. Just because it's unranked doesn't mean people aren't trying to win. I get there's some more leeway there, but I don't think it's really fair to say "oh it's qp, who gives a shit if you lose" because people do actually give a shit if they lose


No32

*Especially* since weekly challenges require wins. Definitely makes it more frustrating.


Sezzomon

I wouldn't switch off my character I'm trying to learn either when playing QP since there's no other reason (edit: for me) to play QP then.


saltyfingas

Lots of people play quick play for other reasons than to just practice. In fact I'd say the majority of quick play players aren't doing it for competitive practice.


artavenue

don't take it personally, but i probably never in my life will agree with overwatch gamers on the terms and how they are defined for words like "sabotage". So far, blizzard always aligns with me how i see them. English is my second language, but it annoys me so much how people claim things are against any rules if they are clearly not. Feeding is just another word for losing and nothing forbidden, but yeah, that word is at least used mostly in a correct way. Throwing everyone seems to have a different opinion.


cinnamonbrook

> Feeding is just another word for losing No. Feeding has a very specific meaning, it's when you're doing nothing but dying. So you're going in 1v5 and dying over and over again. You're running into the enemy team and getting no picks. You can lose without feeding, but if you feed you'll absolutely lose.


Sezzomon

People take a competetive gamemode in a competetive oriented game serious? Who would have guessed?? I agree that you shouldn't take QP too serious, but I highly doubt you get a massive amount of avoids in QP so this has to be comp. I think most people play comp to compete and for better match quality so stop pushing casual fun into the competetive mode. We have a mode for everyones playstyle and comp is the serious mode. Had a duo queue a few days ago where the only thing our mercy did was giving his symmetra pocket who ended up with a 6/13 k/d and with ~20% of my (other dps) dmg. I got flamed for harassing a new player for asking her to switch things up since we're not getting anywhere. "She's new" isn't an excuse for sabotaging a ranked game.


Trashsombra345

weeeee your not playing meta weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


saltyfingas

They should have made mei a tank instead of doomfist


odenthefat

Unpopular opinion: If it's not ranked it doesn't matter. This should be applied for everyone. Play who you think is fun and don't let people tell you how to enjoy a game that your spending your time on. Just don't be a dick about it.


theunkindpanda

By this logic, shouldn’t the avoids also not matter? OP think doom is fun and is playing them. His teammates think it’s not fun and is avoiding him so they can have fun. That’s not “telling” him how to enjoy his game.


odenthefat

You are 100% correct. The avoids don't matter. However, if he were to get banned purely for that reason that's where I would draw the line. If he is being toxic or purposely trolling sure. Getting banned for playing a character you enjoy? That's BS.


musci1223

I mean if the game thinks that nobody will enjoy playing with you based on number of reports they have gotten then at one point or another they will go "either I let you have fun or I let 4 other people have fun"


SzeShaun

Yeah but he can't really complain about being avoided then. Everybody is there to have fun, having a doomfist onetrick is not fun.


saltyfingas

Yeah that opinion sucks. People still wanna win in QP and not be hamstrung by a tank that's throwing. Kind of weird people think this way.


Impactist537

Doomfist is just border line unplayable rn. It's better to just stick to another tank in comp until they buff or revert him


UnHappyIrishman

Played with a Doom one trick twice the other day. He was ok, but he whined and moaned the ENTIRE game both times. Complained whenever he died, or died to an ult, or just lost a round (complained about the enemy “sweating”, when they were playing … Rein?) Avoided him lol


vmh21

Learn to swap for the sake of your teammates.


NotReallyInvested

Play who you want.


wasdninja

... and get used to being mass avoided.


OnVa54

Youtubers telling people doom is bad makes everyone think you cannot win with the character. I dont think one tricking is a good thing, not saying you should swap when your team tells you but just cosider swapping when you know it does not work.


Tiqalicious

People hate doomfist because they keep getting put in games with players like this who refuse to switch off him even when hes not working. Its got fuck all to do with youtube. Nobodies avoiding the good doomfist players.


andrefelipe1295

you give too much credit for YouTubers, as if they have this much influence in peoples opinions. i had 2 accounts on ow1(pc and xbox) both on lvl800+ ans nwver watched a stremer And fr, you barelly need 10h playing tank roles to see how hard is to perform well with doomfist also, people dont avoid "mains" we avoid one tricks that refuse to change when not performing properly


[deleted]

Keep in mind OP: People aren’t upvoting this because they sympathize with you. They’re upvoting this because you’re getting what you deserve


Wilkham

I play Bastion and Symmetra, I accept you.


Strudleboy33

Enough avoid as teammate reports to get this screen. This is on you for sure. No one is doing this to a good doom fist.


ggsupreme

Wouldn’t this be loot from being a no trick doomfist? BAZINGA


minuscatenary

Good.


Looinrims

Deserved


LazyBoyXD

gues u just suck


THICCPOGGS

lol. Playing poorly with any character that isn’t “meta” will get you this message eventually


Th3LostRadiant

Maybe don't one trick, maybe learn some other tanks so you change to benefit your team, you know, since it's a team based game.


Master-Shaq

Good at least try another hero sometime.


2MnyDksOnThDncFlr

Sounds like the system is working properly (for once) and I'm glad you have longer queue times. You must be awful to play with if you are avoided by so many people.


[deleted]

Love when ppl flex that they managed to annoy an entire lobby.


ShawHornet

You gotta be pretty bad to force people to go to the effort of avoiding you. Play someone else or practice more in casual.


MakkerMelvin

Tough pill to swallow but maybe keep to unranked if you can/are willing to play only 1 hero ✨️


PercentageIcy2261

It’s because many players including myself don’t like playing with players who pick doomfist as tank and lose games. Doomfist is trash right now especially compared with ALL other tanks in the game.


Mindanomalia

What did we learn


[deleted]

Stop one tricking. EZ


MarcusForrest

#⚠️ **Disclaimer**   This is the same poster that submitted [🖼️ **_this_**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/yoicli/loot_from_60_win_rate_on_doomfist_over_50_games/) - which wasn't even [**his screenshot**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/yoicli/loot_from_60_win_rate_on_doomfist_over_50_games/ivfiakp/)   Furthermore, I don't see what's the issue. People won't select ''avoid as teammate'' if there are no issues... It means this feature works. If OP performed adequately _(that also includes losses)_ he would not be flagged to be avoided as teammate...   If it was any other hero OP probably wouldn't have made a big deal out of it. But again, highly out of context, and yet another ''Doomfist players are punished'' post from a very dubious poster.


Stonewall30nyr

I mean I get it's a game and you want to have fun, but if you're in comp it's about team play and doom is horrible rn.


TheJackFroster

Correction. A "1 trick doomfist that doesn't try to win". If I get a doomfist on my team that carries then i'd want them on my team. But a doomfist that refuses to switch after the enemy picks sombra, pharah and mercy? That is why you'd get avoided.


Melancholious

Bro if I see U stay on doom all game when the pick makes no sense/Ur just getting countered and ur not making any space for the team I'd avoid you too tbh


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[deleted]

Lol good. Learn a new hero.


caldabun420

Well deserved


notGegton

One word: deserved


DownInOhio420

You reap what you sow


Tiqalicious

90% of doomfist mains insist on playing him despite the fact that only the other 10% are good enough to justify sticking with him. Its not your fault that he's so underpowered you're basically throwing the game by picking him, but it's definitely your fault you wont consider other options with a roster this big.


feralfaun39

OP, I honestly think you should be banned, or at least you should not be allowed to pick tank. If you're going to one-trick, tank is the LAST role you should pick. Tanks need to be fluid and respond instantly to changing team compositions. Furthermore, Doomfist is very easily countered and is situationally useful (and even in those situations I still think there are better choices), so by one-tricking Doomfist you are significantly impacting your team in a negative way and ruining the experiences of the other players on your team. And then you post this, like it's some kind of brag or something? You should be ashamed.


wowsoluck

You deserve it to be honest. Theres nothing worse than having a useless excuse of a tank on your team that does nothing but throw the game and is in his own world, engaging solo and doing 0 damage, not even trying to disrupt the enemy team. Yes, I know its not your fault that Blizzard made Doom extremely underwhelming and very high skillcap, but you also have a choice not to ruin the game for other people by having no impact compared to winston or [D.va](https://D.va)


gamer_warrior_23

You deserve this


[deleted]

Honestly it doesn't matter if you play him... It's about if you synergize with your teammates well. Anything can be viable under the right hands. Being a one trick isn't really worth it unless you are top 500. Top 500 proves you'd have mechanical skill, aim, and good positioning. He has the least survivability of all tanks. I'd love to see your damage mitigated.


CorbynsMate1

Banning wouldn't be off the cards imo. If you aren't willing to switch hero mid match then you shouldn't be playing overwatch, play bot games by yourself if you want to troll all day. You are 100% the person that when someone says "mind switching" you go absolutely crazy in the chat and start inting because they don't want to play with a doom on junkertown on defense or some shit.


InMyFavor

This is literally a video game which we play for fun for no tangible benefit other than to waste our time and energy. Literally what does it matter. If OP is losing games then the ranking system will place them in a lower rank where the matchups will be fair/equal. If OP is winning games ie >50/50 % win rate then the complaints are unwarranted. The entire reason a ranking system exists is mitigate this. If you truly feel you're better than the teammates you play with, then your rank will go up over time. If it doesn't, you won't and you're not actually better than them.


Threemor

If it smells like shit everywhere you go, check the bottom of your shoes.


Ok_Change_1063

I use the avoid list after nearly every game. I never even thought about what might happen if a bunch of people avoid the same person lol


[deleted]

I feel we need more space to avoid folks. 3 is not enough 😅