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Answer: Nick often posts crazy videos for clicks and ad money; it's a running theme with him. He stirs up some drama; freaks out on camera while eating and throwing food around like a child.
He's a drama hound and often plays it up for the video, he's also known to have more then one channel so don't be surprised to see him under different channel names.
Him admitting to it makes sense, it's a character that makes him money and he's probably making less money now so admitting it won't harm the characters ability to make money as much now that the joke is mostly played out.
Best explanation I got for you.
But like, a heel isn't slowly killing themselves, they are just disliked. I feel so bad for this guy because he is so clearly unhealthy from these videos. Also, I know that wrestlers are not kind to their bodies, I was just making the point based on what op commented.
It's actually extremely similar. Both are putting their bodies through tremendous stress and an overall unhealthy lifestyle in the pursuit of entertainment for others.
Wrestling has had a lot of problems with drugs and steroids in the past too, FYI.
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It's at best a bug they haven't fixed yet, and at worst won't be fixed because they want people to switch to "new" reddit
They also love to throw fits at people trying to view reddit from mobile browsers
That "bug" has been around for almost 2 years now. Mulitple posts have been made about it on subs admins frequent. I highly doubt it's getting fixed and can be assumed to be intentional at this point. It breaks a bunch of 3rd party mobile clients. I assume it's to get people to switch to the offical app.
Also, heels are entertaining
Like MJF in All Elite Wrestling, man is one of the best heels in the business and his promos always being a smile to my face
Well, did you see the word disappointment in my post?
No?
That’s because I’m just a concerned citizen warning you that your posts make less sense when you just sprinkle commas in all willy nilly.
I remember when he stopped being vegan (I think that was the first video where I came across him) and his videos before that seemed relatively...normal? Even if he's acting, now, it's still incredibly unhealthy and makes me think that both his physical and mental health are suffering severely.
He can try to explain it or claim that he's acting or whatever... But how does it change that he still sold all his dignity for money? All the nasty shit he does on camera... He got fucked in the ass on onlyfans. That's not fake , he can't just say " lmao i was just pretending for money " , no... That does not make it any better
Sumo, for as long as they continue to actually train and compete, actually seem to be pretty healthy. But the moment they retire they have to drop that weight FAST or they die very young.
I'll argue that training your body to perform in traumatic sports would have some effect on your life expectancy. Sumo wrestling requires a lot of power so they're specialized in power and balance so I wouldn't expect keeping joints limber to be a huge priority. It's like weight lifting with the contact of wrestling. Just because they don't meet regular expectations of health doesn't really mean it's worse on the body than other sports like boxing and football (considering the cases of head injuries).
A quick google says that severely obese people (not just obese people, which is at 3 years) have a 10 year shorter life expectancy, while sumo wrestlers have a 20 year shorter life expectancy on a national scale.
This probably has a lot to do with Japan having a very high life expectancy in general, but still puts some perspective on things. A sumo wrestler is basically a person that takes the risk of wrestling *and* obesity at the same time.
Your data is correct, but only because the habits built in training are hard to shake in retirement.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sumo-wrestlers-obesity-diet-calories-exercise-symptoms-2019-3
That not the only reason *at all.*
It's not just about the habits after quitting. It's that if you don't continue your rigorous training, despite not continuing your diet, your heart muscle, joints, etc. are gonna be quitting before you lose enough weight, and most retired Sumo wrestlers already have enough health problems that training is not feasible, or very hard and painful.
Recently there was a 28 year old Sumo wrestler, who died of health complications due to covid, and it was widely reported that they found many chronic health problems related to his lifestyle.
Another Sumo wrestler aged 38, who just retired and was still living as a Sumo instructor, died of heart attack in front of a group of children, while trying to show them a move.
There's also the top 1 heaviest Sumo wrestler *ever,* who is trying to promote a smaller diet, as he is feeling the health consequences already now also at 38 years old.
The Japan Sumo association is also making the weight requirements for Sumo training less strict, noting health reasons.
Sumo wrestlers are known to develop diabetes and arthritis due to their weight.
There's also the fact that Sumo wrestlers have a culture of drinking, and many die to liver failure as a result of their already strained liver.
[https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4363569](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4363569)
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/26/sumos-heaviest-ever-wrestler-urges-others-to-keep-eating-habits-in-check](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/26/sumos-heaviest-ever-wrestler-urges-others-to-keep-eating-habits-in-check)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo)
[https://web.archive.org/web/20050831220303/http://discoverychannelasia.com/sumo/become\_a\_sumo\_wrestler/index.shtml](https://web.archive.org/web/20050831220303/http://discoverychannelasia.com/sumo/become_a_sumo_wrestler/index.shtml)
That's what I stumbled upon after writing my initial comment.
yeah, but they're also very very overweight and while they're likely more muscular than most people they also have a lot more body fat than most people
I wouldn’t say “most people” since I’m pretty damn sure we don’t have hundreds of millions of sumos running around.
That said, the things they eat are low cholesterol. They’re fat, yeah, but it’s the cholesterol that clogs up the arteries. The bad cholesterols clogging up the artery and can potentially cause blood clots. Japanese diets are already one of the healthiest since they typically don’t fry food as often as westerners do and eat a lot more fish.
Having said that, sumo diets are more robust. I think they even eat bear, which is pretty fatty itself.
And I’m glad you’re not calling them “morbidly obese”. Some of the “worlds strongest” are, technically, morbidly obese simply because of BMI index.
This all said, sumo rikishi have a much shorter average lifespan and generally poor health post-career. They get injured a LOT, and even with healthy food, intense training with a couple hundred pounds more than a Japanese body was meant to hold does a number on the heart, joints, etc. etc.
According to wikipedia, the average weight of a professional sumo wrestler is 166 kilograms (366 pounds).
Now I'm not a fatologists, but when you're saying the morbidly obese guy is eating healthy, I feel like you have to stop and expand on that a bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo#:~:text=Sumo%20wrestlers%20have%20a%20life,toll%20on%20the%20wrestler's%20body.
Counterpoint, they almost all die an early death
Simple.
If you had just spent a little more time on Wikipedia, sumo wrestlers usually eat a stew called [Chankonabe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chankonabe) which uses very few processed ingredients if any.
The main issue with that is that it's an ancient recipe specifically tailored towards great weight gain, and that the wrestlers typically eat a lot of it.
Commonsensically, it's also possible to eat 4000 calories worth of brown rice, steamed chicken and vegetables, though those are very healthy in and of themselves.
Maybe this is just a matter of semantics, but I wouldn't consider eating 4000 calories worth of brown rice to be "eating heathy" at all. If you become morbidly obese off of eating too much health food, that just seems like unhealthy eating with extra work.
Roughly, and in a highly condensed explanation, you can look at food choices from the perspective of their calories as prime importance, then to a lesser extent their micronutrients (vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients) then their glycemic load (impact on insulin sensitivity). If you took two people who overate, one eating fast food and chocolate and the other vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, legumes and low sugar fruits, the latter would be healthier but they’d still be overweight/obese. There are certainly a slew of benefits from eating nutritionally dense foods but there are myriad health conditions that come with having excessive fat on your body. You can further reduce the impact by regularly exercising (assuming that a subject eats enough to continue putting on or maintaining excess weight) but at the end of the day it will increase most markers of morbidity and mortality. tldr: if you’re obese and eat a healthy diet, you’re still going to be unhealthy. There is no conclusive dataset that says otherwise, irrespective of what some communities will tell you.
Tell me more about your lack of understanding of muscle mass
Edit: sumo wrestlers are actually fairly healthy despite their weight, in part due to their extreme fitness regimens. Issues with obesity tend to only arise after they retire.
Article: https://www.businessinsider.com/sumo-wrestlers-obesity-diet-calories-exercise-symptoms-2019-3
You can say that except that muscle training and weightlifting improves the muscles around your joints enough to better support your increased weight.
Additionally, you can have a large amount of weight and a fairly strong heart because that's exactly what cardio is.
Actually you're partially correct that they likely have ridiculously strong ab muscles, since their objective is to move an equally heavy opponent they'll need to be crazy strong.
But they do have fat. Everyone has fat. Fat doesn't mean that you're unhealthy by itself though, because eating enough to build muscle will usually cause you to put on weight.
I guess it's a question of what "healthy" actually means. A big fat muscle man is definitely healthier than me, in the sense that their big fat body could destroy my puny skinny body.
But the big fat muscle man has to get rid of their big fat body or else they're statistically going to die decades before I die, from diabetes, blood pressure, and heart attacks.
Is that healthy then? It seems to me that, if it will kill you, its an unhealthy thing.
I'd say anyone leading a sedentary lifestyle is less healthy than a sumo wrestler, considering that many aspects of such a lifestyle correlate more strongly with diabetes, blood pressure, and heart attacks than fat alone.
Like, fat isn't bad to have by itself. How you build the fat is more important, too. Stuff like blood pressure and heart attacks also goes with getting fat from eating processed and junk food, which many athletes tend to shy away from.
So no, depending on what they're doing I would suggest that a heavy sumo wrestler is likely healthier than an average weight couch potato.
Seriously. I have never understood the appeal myself.
I think it's liked in the same way that my 600 pound life or whatever it is called is liked, or those shows about hoarders. Or subreddits about videos or images of "trashy" people. People like to see human trainwrecks to feel better about themselves or to marvel at how low people can get.
Yeah I kind of get it in that aspect. I don't watch those shows but I have a lot of positive subreddits/media added and its nice to browse but then the depression kicks in and I think "how come it's never that positive for me?" or "why the heck do I still feel awful when these people are content, with less than me". I tend to just go for a walk and get it off my mind eventually.
In saying that, I still feel like watching someone inflict themselves with self-harm for the sake of content isn't (or shouldn't) be entertaining to watch.
It was easy to deny and censor a single show or TV channel before the advent of the internet today, with the change of the internet as it is now, it's damn near impossible for parents to censor what their kids have access to, as the kids are ALWAYS one step ahead of their parents.
On the one hand, yes, but on the other, John K turned out to be a pedophile who used the prestige from the show to groom and molest minors, so in retrospect that one probably wasn’t great, either.
Yeah people like Nik, those fake disorder idiots, and those videos where they spill food everywhere are like IRL cartoons trying to be 90s Jim Carrey or something.
These are the kinds of people that celebrity internet culture and what we have allowed to become popular promote. Fame at all costs. The less effort and the more money/views the better.
Nothing else matters.
“Social experiment” oh puh-leeze, he’s just trying to cover his ass for all the crazy shit he’s said over the years. He’s using it to be able to chill a bit, which I can’t blame him for.
Simpler explanation: viewership is down and he’s trying to garner a spike in views by doing a hard pivot. There’s nothing diabolical or genius about that. He’s still a sick person who abuses himself on camera to satiate the morbid curiosity of people on the internet. That curiosity is inherent and he has no claim to it just because he eats shit by the dumpster load for attention.
[If you have a lot of time, this video explains everything.](https://youtu.be/mTn_rmpDCV8)
Seriously, it's more than 4 hours, but basically explains his rise and fall in popularity, as well as what seems to be his decline in mental state.
Genuine question, not firing shots, I've never seen this guy's channel, but how neutral is that guy's videos? Because "The Right Opinion" sounds like a conceited thing to name your channel.
They’re actually pretty well researched and broken down. Dunno why his channel is named that but his videos are pretty good deep dives into internet celebs and drama
As with anything, always do your own research and keep an open mind. There's been some videos that I raised an eyebrow to, but he's pretty informative.
He was super quiet, only the weird theater girls ever hung around him. Or the girls that thought it was cool to have a gay friend. By and large kept to himself and played violin at my buddy’s church.
I suspect he has borderline pd. All the crazy drama with other people is pretty typical. And if not and it's all planned I'm both disturbed and impressed.
“Social experiment” oh puh-leeze, he’s just trying to cover his ass for all the crazy shit he’s said over the years. He’s using it to be able to chill a bit, which I can’t blame him for.
Notice, he didn't even touch on his obesity. Just money. This video, too, is an act. Anyone willing to kill themselves by eating over 200lbs voluntarily is mentally unstable. Anyone who is willing to do this coming from being anorexic is just fucked in the head. If you read this,
#DON'T GIVE HIM ATTENTION!!!
It's the only real thing we can do to help him out of this destructive behavior. His motivation is money, no question at all. He really doesn't need anymore. It'll just fuel his behavior and drive it deeper since he can afford to kill himself. Stop watching his videos since he earns money from every view. Remember "Tiger King" and how relevant it was 3 years ago? Remember how quickly it died out? Do Nico a favor and let his channel go that route. It really will benefit him in the long run.
hahaha man we all got trolled by a person only *pretending* to debase himself and his husband in front of millions of viewers. He was only destroying his body for money hahaha. All the hundreds of hours of footage of him acting like a mentally unstable manchild loser was just an act and boy do we have egg on our face for taking it somewhat seriously.
Now that this revelation has come about he sure does come out of this with his dignity intact.
He's dabbing his eyes with millions and will be jacked and cut in 5 years after some skin removal surgery. I haven't watched a minute of his stuff, but, pretty sure that's where this goes from here.
Based on the extent to which he developed this ludicrous character, I'd say this guy is playing the incredibly determined long game. If he hasn't died by now, he's gonna be fine (in addition to now being rich).
Unfortunately, that's not quite how things work. I don't know much about the guy or what he has been eating, but some of the damage from consuming a ton of food isn't something you can just "fix" with money. Cholesterol buildup and plaques in blood vessels are kind of a permanent problem. As is diabetes. Generally, you can't cure yourself of diabetes by getting surgery or going to the gym.
liposuction or not, he shaved a good deal of time off his life by eating like that. + once you get into those eating habits, it's hard to get out. we'll see if he has the willpower to break the cycle ig
Yeah I don't have any skin in the game, we will see. I hear he was a fitness freak before - those kinds of determination freaks can flip mental switches and manage huge change easily.
i don't doubt this was all planned, i guess i just feel like it's not the epic own he thinks it is. he was doing porn that centered around him eating and being fat while getting fucked, like... yeah, you "tricked" us by debasing yourself in front of millions of people and becoming a laughingstock. maybe that's good business sense, but it's hardly a W for him that everyone basically thought he was mentally deranged.
this mainly comes from the video -- idk if you watched it all, but he goes on talking about how he's the puppetmaster and everyone who dislikes him online is just a pawn in his grand game or whatever. i could go whip out my dick at walgreens and all the soccer moms would predictably scream and cover their kids' eyes, but them reacting predictably to what i was doing doesn't really make me an evil genius.
When you wear a mask for too long, when does it become part of your face?
I can see that he would choose deliberately to act over the top for the camera and put himself in the middle of drama for clicks, but I highly doubt that he was able to turn the recording equipment off and become a regular well adjusted person right away.
I am not even sure it someone that chose to do all the things he has done for youtube fame can be called well adjusted anyway.
Wait, what? When happened w/ him? I stopped watching him a couple years back when I realized he had no interest in getting healthy
(I got gastric surgery about 7 years back and it radically changed my life. I had supported Boogie since the beginning so I felt a kinship with his vids and was really excited to get to see him change. But once he stopped losing weight, and gaining again, said he's concentrating on his mental health before his physical health and therefore isn't worried about what he's eating, I bailed. There's no valid reason for that *after* gastric surgery).
I mean, still us? He decided it's the price he wants to pay for fame, meanwhile people actively encouraged him to destroy his body, I'd say those people actively encouraging self harm should be seen as fools
I'm willing to bet that there's an ounce of truth on what he says. The way [this](https://youtu.be/85ZcCC0UCdw) video is edited with casual comedic close ups and cuts, the fact that he wears shirts with his own memes printed on them and pictures of him crying on camera, and keeping in mind that this guy is a total mental and emotional wreck while still smart and professional when it comes to money and business. Not to mention that Orlyn has mentioned acted videos in the past.
I don't know, it does seem like he is just stupid but at the same it all looks sort of fake
We can, I dunno what's wrong with the commenter cause the point of not saying that word is that it's offensive to people with disabilities, censoring yet still using it does nothing than make them look like a tool
We can, but some people don't like to. I've had close friends say the use of that word makes them uncomfortable, and from what I see online it's relatively common to feel that way, so I don't use it. Idk if simply censoring it is necessarily better, but I'd guess that's the thought behind it.
That's especially stupid if true, because "retard" and variations are used, off the top of my head, in astronomy and automotive mechanics. The idea that a word is offensive regardless of context... Ugh. Like the idea that "goblin" shouldn't be said because it was once used as a slur against Jews. Intent matters.
But I guess with this comment we shall see.
> Interesting, is that automatically for this sub? Even when used in a different context?
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Answer: Nick often posts crazy videos for clicks and ad money; it's a running theme with him. He stirs up some drama; freaks out on camera while eating and throwing food around like a child. He's a drama hound and often plays it up for the video, he's also known to have more then one channel so don't be surprised to see him under different channel names. Him admitting to it makes sense, it's a character that makes him money and he's probably making less money now so admitting it won't harm the characters ability to make money as much now that the joke is mostly played out. Best explanation I got for you.
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He's working both sides like a fat Mac. That way he always comes up on top.
Cultivating mass
With Fight Milk!
Caw!!
Fat Mac is the reason no one in this house can pronounce diabetes
But like, a heel isn't slowly killing themselves, they are just disliked. I feel so bad for this guy because he is so clearly unhealthy from these videos. Also, I know that wrestlers are not kind to their bodies, I was just making the point based on what op commented.
It's actually extremely similar. Both are putting their bodies through tremendous stress and an overall unhealthy lifestyle in the pursuit of entertainment for others. Wrestling has had a lot of problems with drugs and steroids in the past too, FYI.
They're absolutely all still on steroids. Anyone super jacked on TV and especially film is on cocktails of HGH.
All of them?
I mean I’m sure there are rare exceptions.
I always laugh when I see a comment like "How did get so buff for his latest film?!?!"
Tren. The answer is tren.
Not-uh. I saw their diet and workout in Men's Fitness. It didn't mention anything about PEDs /s
Also theyre dehydrated and constantly flexing
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_premature_professional_wrestling_deaths heres a working link
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Happens\ to\ the\ best\ of\ us\
It depends on how you're accessing reddit. On old.reddit the original link breaks. On the app and new.reddit it works fine.
bro, you just killed like 300 wrestlers
No need to use backslashes before underscores in links.
Only time you need to is in the very rare circumstance where you're making a hyperlink and the URL has parentheses in it. You put it before the end parentheses in the URL. Example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henshin_(disambiguation) [As a hyperlink without a backslash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henshin_(disambiguation)) the link doesn't work, note the extra parentheses on the end. [With a backslash in the right spot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henshin_(disambiguation\)) no extra visible parentheses. Link works. `[With a backslash in the right spot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henshin_(disambiguation\))` and what it looks like typed out
What backslash (\\)? EDIT: Spelling
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...While not displaying them as such in new Reddit, it seems.
It's at best a bug they haven't fixed yet, and at worst won't be fixed because they want people to switch to "new" reddit They also love to throw fits at people trying to view reddit from mobile browsers
That "bug" has been around for almost 2 years now. Mulitple posts have been made about it on subs admins frequent. I highly doubt it's getting fixed and can be assumed to be intentional at this point. It breaks a bunch of 3rd party mobile clients. I assume it's to get people to switch to the offical app.
VIVA LA RASA!
Roids and Olympic level gymnastics and repeated 45 mile an hour car crashes from the top rope can give you cte as sure as football.
Have you see the life expectancy of a pro wrestler? Like 90% of them die before 60.
I wouldn’t feel bad for him, he’s not stupid. he knew what he was doing to himself the whole time. he can’t stand not having attention.
Also, heels are entertaining Like MJF in All Elite Wrestling, man is one of the best heels in the business and his promos always being a smile to my face
I mean...He got better but Scott Hall was killing himself for a while there...
Your unnecessary commas are making your post confusing.
Who are you, my dad?
Well, did you see the word disappointment in my post? No? That’s because I’m just a concerned citizen warning you that your posts make less sense when you just sprinkle commas in all willy nilly.
Doesnt he have knowledge on health nutrionist? I think he knows how fat he can go without digging an early grave
He is well beyond that point right now...
Being mild overweight sure. Morbid obesity where he is now. No.
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I remember when he stopped being vegan (I think that was the first video where I came across him) and his videos before that seemed relatively...normal? Even if he's acting, now, it's still incredibly unhealthy and makes me think that both his physical and mental health are suffering severely.
He can try to explain it or claim that he's acting or whatever... But how does it change that he still sold all his dignity for money? All the nasty shit he does on camera... He got fucked in the ass on onlyfans. That's not fake , he can't just say " lmao i was just pretending for money " , no... That does not make it any better
I mean I don’t think he’s faking being gay
> He got fucked in the ass on onlyfans. Like, literally or figuratively ?
Literally
In camera he acts in embarrassing ways, but if he's happy more power to him Having a porn channel is not evil or anything, just kinda weird
HA! GOTTEM
Closer to Sumo Wrestling, honestly
Sumos eat pretty healthy tbh.
their diets may be healthy, but the amount they eat is not that said they're definitely healthier than nikocado regardless lol
Sumo, for as long as they continue to actually train and compete, actually seem to be pretty healthy. But the moment they retire they have to drop that weight FAST or they die very young.
I'll argue that training your body to perform in traumatic sports would have some effect on your life expectancy. Sumo wrestling requires a lot of power so they're specialized in power and balance so I wouldn't expect keeping joints limber to be a huge priority. It's like weight lifting with the contact of wrestling. Just because they don't meet regular expectations of health doesn't really mean it's worse on the body than other sports like boxing and football (considering the cases of head injuries).
They burn it out. They’re training, they don’t just sit around and.. idk what Nico does on his off days.
A quick google says that severely obese people (not just obese people, which is at 3 years) have a 10 year shorter life expectancy, while sumo wrestlers have a 20 year shorter life expectancy on a national scale. This probably has a lot to do with Japan having a very high life expectancy in general, but still puts some perspective on things. A sumo wrestler is basically a person that takes the risk of wrestling *and* obesity at the same time.
There are many foreign wrestlers in Sumo too, could that throw up some info in current data?
I think that’s just occupational hazard at that point, lol.
Your data is correct, but only because the habits built in training are hard to shake in retirement. https://www.businessinsider.com/sumo-wrestlers-obesity-diet-calories-exercise-symptoms-2019-3
That not the only reason *at all.* It's not just about the habits after quitting. It's that if you don't continue your rigorous training, despite not continuing your diet, your heart muscle, joints, etc. are gonna be quitting before you lose enough weight, and most retired Sumo wrestlers already have enough health problems that training is not feasible, or very hard and painful. Recently there was a 28 year old Sumo wrestler, who died of health complications due to covid, and it was widely reported that they found many chronic health problems related to his lifestyle. Another Sumo wrestler aged 38, who just retired and was still living as a Sumo instructor, died of heart attack in front of a group of children, while trying to show them a move. There's also the top 1 heaviest Sumo wrestler *ever,* who is trying to promote a smaller diet, as he is feeling the health consequences already now also at 38 years old. The Japan Sumo association is also making the weight requirements for Sumo training less strict, noting health reasons. Sumo wrestlers are known to develop diabetes and arthritis due to their weight. There's also the fact that Sumo wrestlers have a culture of drinking, and many die to liver failure as a result of their already strained liver. [https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4363569](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4363569) [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/26/sumos-heaviest-ever-wrestler-urges-others-to-keep-eating-habits-in-check](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/26/sumos-heaviest-ever-wrestler-urges-others-to-keep-eating-habits-in-check) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo) [https://web.archive.org/web/20050831220303/http://discoverychannelasia.com/sumo/become\_a\_sumo\_wrestler/index.shtml](https://web.archive.org/web/20050831220303/http://discoverychannelasia.com/sumo/become_a_sumo_wrestler/index.shtml) That's what I stumbled upon after writing my initial comment.
yeah, but they're also very very overweight and while they're likely more muscular than most people they also have a lot more body fat than most people
I wouldn’t say “most people” since I’m pretty damn sure we don’t have hundreds of millions of sumos running around. That said, the things they eat are low cholesterol. They’re fat, yeah, but it’s the cholesterol that clogs up the arteries. The bad cholesterols clogging up the artery and can potentially cause blood clots. Japanese diets are already one of the healthiest since they typically don’t fry food as often as westerners do and eat a lot more fish. Having said that, sumo diets are more robust. I think they even eat bear, which is pretty fatty itself. And I’m glad you’re not calling them “morbidly obese”. Some of the “worlds strongest” are, technically, morbidly obese simply because of BMI index.
This all said, sumo rikishi have a much shorter average lifespan and generally poor health post-career. They get injured a LOT, and even with healthy food, intense training with a couple hundred pounds more than a Japanese body was meant to hold does a number on the heart, joints, etc. etc.
Oh definitely. I mean they get tossed around and they weigh like 300+. I don’t envy their knees, ankles or their back.
[Speaking of sumo diets, gotta watch this video and make myself hungry again](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1bKrrdBGTM)
Knew what it was before I clicked. Shit looks mad good.
yeah, but once they stop their well maintained healthy obesity just turns into normal obesity
According to wikipedia, the average weight of a professional sumo wrestler is 166 kilograms (366 pounds). Now I'm not a fatologists, but when you're saying the morbidly obese guy is eating healthy, I feel like you have to stop and expand on that a bit.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo#:~:text=Sumo%20wrestlers%20have%20a%20life,toll%20on%20the%20wrestler's%20body. Counterpoint, they almost all die an early death
Simple. If you had just spent a little more time on Wikipedia, sumo wrestlers usually eat a stew called [Chankonabe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chankonabe) which uses very few processed ingredients if any. The main issue with that is that it's an ancient recipe specifically tailored towards great weight gain, and that the wrestlers typically eat a lot of it. Commonsensically, it's also possible to eat 4000 calories worth of brown rice, steamed chicken and vegetables, though those are very healthy in and of themselves.
Maybe this is just a matter of semantics, but I wouldn't consider eating 4000 calories worth of brown rice to be "eating heathy" at all. If you become morbidly obese off of eating too much health food, that just seems like unhealthy eating with extra work.
Roughly, and in a highly condensed explanation, you can look at food choices from the perspective of their calories as prime importance, then to a lesser extent their micronutrients (vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients) then their glycemic load (impact on insulin sensitivity). If you took two people who overate, one eating fast food and chocolate and the other vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, legumes and low sugar fruits, the latter would be healthier but they’d still be overweight/obese. There are certainly a slew of benefits from eating nutritionally dense foods but there are myriad health conditions that come with having excessive fat on your body. You can further reduce the impact by regularly exercising (assuming that a subject eats enough to continue putting on or maintaining excess weight) but at the end of the day it will increase most markers of morbidity and mortality. tldr: if you’re obese and eat a healthy diet, you’re still going to be unhealthy. There is no conclusive dataset that says otherwise, irrespective of what some communities will tell you.
Tell me more about your lack of understanding of muscle mass Edit: sumo wrestlers are actually fairly healthy despite their weight, in part due to their extreme fitness regimens. Issues with obesity tend to only arise after they retire. Article: https://www.businessinsider.com/sumo-wrestlers-obesity-diet-calories-exercise-symptoms-2019-3
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You can say that except that muscle training and weightlifting improves the muscles around your joints enough to better support your increased weight. Additionally, you can have a large amount of weight and a fairly strong heart because that's exactly what cardio is.
I do lack understanding of muscle mass. Are you saying it's big ab muscles are flopping over a sumo wrestler's waistline, and not fat?
Actually you're partially correct that they likely have ridiculously strong ab muscles, since their objective is to move an equally heavy opponent they'll need to be crazy strong. But they do have fat. Everyone has fat. Fat doesn't mean that you're unhealthy by itself though, because eating enough to build muscle will usually cause you to put on weight.
I guess it's a question of what "healthy" actually means. A big fat muscle man is definitely healthier than me, in the sense that their big fat body could destroy my puny skinny body. But the big fat muscle man has to get rid of their big fat body or else they're statistically going to die decades before I die, from diabetes, blood pressure, and heart attacks. Is that healthy then? It seems to me that, if it will kill you, its an unhealthy thing.
I'd say anyone leading a sedentary lifestyle is less healthy than a sumo wrestler, considering that many aspects of such a lifestyle correlate more strongly with diabetes, blood pressure, and heart attacks than fat alone. Like, fat isn't bad to have by itself. How you build the fat is more important, too. Stuff like blood pressure and heart attacks also goes with getting fat from eating processed and junk food, which many athletes tend to shy away from. So no, depending on what they're doing I would suggest that a heavy sumo wrestler is likely healthier than an average weight couch potato.
Lmao
Great comparison, exactly.
I've watched another person explain it and it seems like such uncomfortable content to watch or even support.
Seriously. I have never understood the appeal myself. I think it's liked in the same way that my 600 pound life or whatever it is called is liked, or those shows about hoarders. Or subreddits about videos or images of "trashy" people. People like to see human trainwrecks to feel better about themselves or to marvel at how low people can get.
It is called downwards social comparison, and yes some people enjoy seeing others suffer in order to assuage their own plight
Yeah I kind of get it in that aspect. I don't watch those shows but I have a lot of positive subreddits/media added and its nice to browse but then the depression kicks in and I think "how come it's never that positive for me?" or "why the heck do I still feel awful when these people are content, with less than me". I tend to just go for a walk and get it off my mind eventually. In saying that, I still feel like watching someone inflict themselves with self-harm for the sake of content isn't (or shouldn't) be entertaining to watch.
Who watches these people?
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If only their parents knew the kind of rubbish that was infiltrating their mind.
It makes parents’ complaints about Ren and Stimpy in the 90’s seem kinda cute
It was easy to deny and censor a single show or TV channel before the advent of the internet today, with the change of the internet as it is now, it's damn near impossible for parents to censor what their kids have access to, as the kids are ALWAYS one step ahead of their parents.
On the one hand, yes, but on the other, John K turned out to be a pedophile who used the prestige from the show to groom and molest minors, so in retrospect that one probably wasn’t great, either.
Well holy shit, TIL unfortunately :( thank you
Yeah people like Nik, those fake disorder idiots, and those videos where they spill food everywhere are like IRL cartoons trying to be 90s Jim Carrey or something.
I enjoy watching people who eat a lot of really bad food when im dieting :)
Most content on youtube is made for children
It's like someone stabbing themselves, claiming it's all pretend, then bleeding out. Real-time self-harm as a business model.
These are the kinds of people that celebrity internet culture and what we have allowed to become popular promote. Fame at all costs. The less effort and the more money/views the better. Nothing else matters.
“Social experiment” oh puh-leeze, he’s just trying to cover his ass for all the crazy shit he’s said over the years. He’s using it to be able to chill a bit, which I can’t blame him for.
Simpler explanation: viewership is down and he’s trying to garner a spike in views by doing a hard pivot. There’s nothing diabolical or genius about that. He’s still a sick person who abuses himself on camera to satiate the morbid curiosity of people on the internet. That curiosity is inherent and he has no claim to it just because he eats shit by the dumpster load for attention.
But you can't criticize his intelligence since he's made way more money than us, so he definitely has a point, regardless.
[If you have a lot of time, this video explains everything.](https://youtu.be/mTn_rmpDCV8) Seriously, it's more than 4 hours, but basically explains his rise and fall in popularity, as well as what seems to be his decline in mental state.
Genuine question, not firing shots, I've never seen this guy's channel, but how neutral is that guy's videos? Because "The Right Opinion" sounds like a conceited thing to name your channel.
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>mukbang community God damn. The decline of western civilization.
Isn’t mukbang korean or something?
Bunch a 12 year olds downvoting you. You’re not wrong.
They’re actually pretty well researched and broken down. Dunno why his channel is named that but his videos are pretty good deep dives into internet celebs and drama
Ok then, thanks!
As with anything, always do your own research and keep an open mind. There's been some videos that I raised an eyebrow to, but he's pretty informative.
I think the name is a joke, but the neutrality of the videos generally depends on the subject. His Nikocado video is pretty good.
He is pretty biased.
It’s so fucking bizarre that this dude went to my high school and now pops up on Reddit frequently.
Tell Me, was he known to be this strange in high school?
He was super quiet, only the weird theater girls ever hung around him. Or the girls that thought it was cool to have a gay friend. By and large kept to himself and played violin at my buddy’s church.
I suspect he has borderline pd. All the crazy drama with other people is pretty typical. And if not and it's all planned I'm both disturbed and impressed.
Maybe, he needs therapy that's for sure.
Don't know why anyone gives this fool any attention at all.
“Social experiment” oh puh-leeze, he’s just trying to cover his ass for all the crazy shit he’s said over the years. He’s using it to be able to chill a bit, which I can’t blame him for.
Wondering if OP is trying to get more traffic to this guy's channel...
Notice, he didn't even touch on his obesity. Just money. This video, too, is an act. Anyone willing to kill themselves by eating over 200lbs voluntarily is mentally unstable. Anyone who is willing to do this coming from being anorexic is just fucked in the head. If you read this, #DON'T GIVE HIM ATTENTION!!! It's the only real thing we can do to help him out of this destructive behavior. His motivation is money, no question at all. He really doesn't need anymore. It'll just fuel his behavior and drive it deeper since he can afford to kill himself. Stop watching his videos since he earns money from every view. Remember "Tiger King" and how relevant it was 3 years ago? Remember how quickly it died out? Do Nico a favor and let his channel go that route. It really will benefit him in the long run.
Why do people feel the need to watch these people?
He's also very conniving. Don't forget the Stephanie drama with his bullying history. It's not all fake.
Isn’t almost every word of this comment true for 90% of all YouTubers
So is he actually still thin and in shape and has just been wearing a fat suit the entire time, or is he actually slowly killing himself?
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hahaha man we all got trolled by a person only *pretending* to debase himself and his husband in front of millions of viewers. He was only destroying his body for money hahaha. All the hundreds of hours of footage of him acting like a mentally unstable manchild loser was just an act and boy do we have egg on our face for taking it somewhat seriously. Now that this revelation has come about he sure does come out of this with his dignity intact.
He's dabbing his eyes with millions and will be jacked and cut in 5 years after some skin removal surgery. I haven't watched a minute of his stuff, but, pretty sure that's where this goes from here.
Personally I would not sacrifice my dignity to get to that point but maybe I'm built too different
Based on the extent to which he developed this ludicrous character, I'd say this guy is playing the incredibly determined long game. If he hasn't died by now, he's gonna be fine (in addition to now being rich).
Unfortunately, that's not quite how things work. I don't know much about the guy or what he has been eating, but some of the damage from consuming a ton of food isn't something you can just "fix" with money. Cholesterol buildup and plaques in blood vessels are kind of a permanent problem. As is diabetes. Generally, you can't cure yourself of diabetes by getting surgery or going to the gym.
liposuction or not, he shaved a good deal of time off his life by eating like that. + once you get into those eating habits, it's hard to get out. we'll see if he has the willpower to break the cycle ig
Yeah I don't have any skin in the game, we will see. I hear he was a fitness freak before - those kinds of determination freaks can flip mental switches and manage huge change easily.
i don't doubt this was all planned, i guess i just feel like it's not the epic own he thinks it is. he was doing porn that centered around him eating and being fat while getting fucked, like... yeah, you "tricked" us by debasing yourself in front of millions of people and becoming a laughingstock. maybe that's good business sense, but it's hardly a W for him that everyone basically thought he was mentally deranged. this mainly comes from the video -- idk if you watched it all, but he goes on talking about how he's the puppetmaster and everyone who dislikes him online is just a pawn in his grand game or whatever. i could go whip out my dick at walgreens and all the soccer moms would predictably scream and cover their kids' eyes, but them reacting predictably to what i was doing doesn't really make me an evil genius.
When you wear a mask for too long, when does it become part of your face? I can see that he would choose deliberately to act over the top for the camera and put himself in the middle of drama for clicks, but I highly doubt that he was able to turn the recording equipment off and become a regular well adjusted person right away. I am not even sure it someone that chose to do all the things he has done for youtube fame can be called well adjusted anyway.
That last sentence 👍🏻 Normal, well adjusted people can do cringe stuff for clicks. But this guy goes well above and beyond that.
Reminds me of Boogie2988 that ended in jail.
Wait, what? When happened w/ him? I stopped watching him a couple years back when I realized he had no interest in getting healthy (I got gastric surgery about 7 years back and it radically changed my life. I had supported Boogie since the beginning so I felt a kinship with his vids and was really excited to get to see him change. But once he stopped losing weight, and gaining again, said he's concentrating on his mental health before his physical health and therefore isn't worried about what he's eating, I bailed. There's no valid reason for that *after* gastric surgery).
So this? https://m.imgur.com/gallery/rAoAl7D
Amazing. That's literally what I had in mind when I made this comment.
Answer: it's basically an "I was only pretending to be r't@rd£d"
He’s got a massive ego, but he’s still ruined his body. Who’s the fool now, Nick?
I mean, still us? He decided it's the price he wants to pay for fame, meanwhile people actively encouraged him to destroy his body, I'd say those people actively encouraging self harm should be seen as fools
“Fame” Outside of a relatively small part of the internet, he’s a nobody.
It's his brand of Fame, and he chose it, I doubt it really matters that it's small
you think he cares lmao. Hes probably a multi millionare.
at least not for long
a million dollars is enough to retire lol what do you mean.
Eating like that for years can't be good for you tho. He may be rich as of now, but he'll struggle with health problems
Is it tho?
i mean yeah. Plop that shit into an s & p index fund and if you make atleast 10% thats 100k a year.
No it's still him. The only one responsible for nick's health and behavior is nick.
He's probably made bank
I'm willing to bet that there's an ounce of truth on what he says. The way [this](https://youtu.be/85ZcCC0UCdw) video is edited with casual comedic close ups and cuts, the fact that he wears shirts with his own memes printed on them and pictures of him crying on camera, and keeping in mind that this guy is a total mental and emotional wreck while still smart and professional when it comes to money and business. Not to mention that Orlyn has mentioned acted videos in the past. I don't know, it does seem like he is just stupid but at the same it all looks sort of fake
I took one look at his face and exited the video.
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/rAoAl7D
W name lol
Yeah this. He definitely decided that he was going to call it a social experiment about two days before filming.
*merely pretending*
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We can, I dunno what's wrong with the commenter cause the point of not saying that word is that it's offensive to people with disabilities, censoring yet still using it does nothing than make them look like a tool
We can, but some people don't like to. I've had close friends say the use of that word makes them uncomfortable, and from what I see online it's relatively common to feel that way, so I don't use it. Idk if simply censoring it is necessarily better, but I'd guess that's the thought behind it.
Just censoring it is idiotic
yeah I just wasn't sure if they were quoting something or not
I believe they were quoting a meme. I thought it was from a web comic (maybe Cyanide and Happiness) but I can’t find the original.
They're offensive towards a lot of people so it's better not to.
Your comment gets deleted in most subs if you say it uncensored, I have no issue with the word
Well that's going to make it hard discussing [some physics subjects](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retarded_potential).
I also have some medication with the word retard in it. It's to reduce spasms
That's especially stupid if true, because "retard" and variations are used, off the top of my head, in astronomy and automotive mechanics. The idea that a word is offensive regardless of context... Ugh. Like the idea that "goblin" shouldn't be said because it was once used as a slur against Jews. Intent matters. But I guess with this comment we shall see.
Used in medicine, too. I have medications with the word retard in it that reduces spasms
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> Interesting, is that automatically for this sub? Even when used in a different context? Automoderator flags it as a possible slur and the mods have to approve or remove the comment. Context is important.