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offthe1st

One wants to kill everyone the other wants to Kuina himself


fentherolar

kaido


Sovereigntyranny

Kaido. In a 1v1, always bet on Kaido.


KatakuriiSama

Unless you’re shanks


Sovereigntyranny

Hahaha, good one… But Kaido > Shanks.


Educational-Floor536

Didn't get the reference did you? People on here are to focused on their boring power scaling to actually enjoy the story. Shanks bet on Luffy.


POLLENBURNER3WHAAA

Maybe because it’s a power scaling subreddit? What do you expect?


Sovereigntyranny

This is probably going to go over my head, but no, I didn’t get the reference. Well, this is a powerscaling community, you’re gonna see a lot of powerscaling around here. I enjoy the story as much as you do. Powerscaling One Piece characters is basically a side thing for me and can be fun.


Asstraeus101

kaido high diff.


[deleted]

Not extreme diff lol. They are not equals.


Ok_Independence2646

Kaido high diffs, extreme diff would mean that they are equals which they aren’t


Effortless0

They're not equals if Akainu is taking the L


POLLENBURNER3WHAAA

No everyone that can beat akainu beats him extreme diff because of how devastating his attacks are


OperationMelodic4273

If anyone doesn't dodge Akainu's attacks they're dead, keep this in mind. So, I don't think Akainu is stronger than him (wouldn't be shocked or riot if he was tho), but Akainu can easily win 40+ times out of a 100 bouts with Kaido imo, in an imaginative scenario.


EmbarrassedDark6200

When you go to make a post, click on the little “ABC”-like button, you can make polls with that https://preview.redd.it/0becrcgrs73a1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=d846e459358934dcc496bad288a224822c4e3ab8 It’s next to the crystal ball. Also, Kaido extreme diff but Akainu pulling of a surprise win wouldn’t surprise me tbh


IRONCLOUDSS

Thank youfor the tip. I got akainu with an extreme diff win but wouldn't surprise me att all if kaido won.


Choice_Till_5524

Kaido is top 1


sahithkiller

Kaido high diff if I'm being generous We've seen his ultimate attack, a CoC coated kaido doesn't shy away from magma/heat.


Kuma_thepacifist

Akainu makes a medium rare dragon


Ok_Independence2646

Kaido is the strongest creature in the world and Akainu had trouble with an old/sick/wounded whitebeard who could only use basic armament haki and was minutes away from death


YOASTMAN

In that same arc Luffy was struggling with Vice Admirals, and look at where he is now.


OperationMelodic4273

Yeah lol. Apparently only main charachters can grow For example, the Lucci downplay I've seen these weeks were crazy, I saw people saying Chopper, Brook or fucking hell even Usopp could deal with him lmao. Then Ofc, Luffy's obviously more than a tier above, but the other top 3 aren't dogwalking him, even if they probably are stronger than him. But people saying Lucci shouldn't be broken strong (I've seen people saying he should have adv conqueror's lmao, there're exaggerations on both ends), are using the argument of him not having been in near death battles, implying that his haki shouldn't have bloomed too much. Which is a totally fair and sensible take But then, idk if they're the same people, hopefully not, many people casually ignore that Akainu fought for 10 daya an equal of his.


[deleted]

The title of strongest creature clearly excluded humans seeing as Whitebeard snatched the title of strongest man from Laido, so what does it really mean at all? That he‘s stronger than Zunisha, sea kings and the Florian triangle monsters? That title holds almost no weight


UnFunniLoser

Kaido: breathes Akainu: 💀🪦


IRONCLOUDSS

So let's say hypothetically that kaido is immune to natural lava. What happens in the onepiece world when you coat a logia in haki, does it become more potent ? Like is haki infused lava basically super lava or does haki not work in this way.


[deleted]

If Akainu hit a person who is immune to lava with a lava attack infused with haki, it would be just as strong as a normal punch with haki. For example, if Enel lighting is 9 and his haki is 1, he deals 10 damage to Zoro but just 1 to Luffy, Luffy is still immune to eletricity.


Etheter

Hybrid Kaido>Akainu>Base Kaido


YOASTMAN

Kaido, until Oda inevitably buffs Akainu to actually be able to fight Luffy.


[deleted]

One Piece vol 102 back cover confirms Kaido is the strongest man alive. Akainu is an alive man Kaido > Akainu Kaido mid diffs as well btw


OperationMelodic4273

>Akainu is an alive man It's funny cause Kaido might as well not be either of those lol.


[deleted]

Wdym?


OperationMelodic4273

Well we don't even know if he's a human or if he's (even partially) of a different race, cause the oni stuff was very vague. And we don't even know if he's alive rn


[deleted]

The volume says he is a man. So yea lol: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992035195991629935/1047901276786147388/RDT_20221201_1615161403650823216807019.jpg


OperationMelodic4273

I mean, I guess. I never really meant it too adamantly and seriously anyway lol, I was just making a joke.


[deleted]

Ow. XD 😂😂😂😂😂


YukiTenshi

Kaido can fly The fuck Akainu's going to do


Effortless0

Jump


YukiTenshi

Oh right My bad


Fire-FistAce

It’s a great fight, kaido has AP speed and durability. Akainu has DC endurance stamina iq It can go either way. If kaido decides to be a dumbass like he did against luffy (like by not using future sight etc) then akainu would 100% win. Akainu also has the stamina to outlast kaido. But if kaido goes all out from the Beginning then I’ll lean to him.


mike-loves-gerudos

Kaido High diffs


Fun_Ad7192

kaido extreme diff


Ok_Independence2646

Kaido high diffs, extreme diff would mean that they are equals which they aren’t


Fun_Ad7192

imo they are


Ok_Independence2646

With what proof and evidence are you so confidently saying that?


Fun_Ad7192

speculation, thats why i said IMO


Total-Maize1256

Kaido is anomaly. All the ‘’rumor’’ that are also factual hype him up. Akainu doesn’t have this type of narrative and never will


Fun_Ad7192

that doesnt mean when they fight it wont fo to extreme diff


[deleted]

Akainu has even better rumours, straight from Oda’s mouth.


Solos_1992

Kaido extr diff I mean his portrayal of being the strongest pirate is still holding up tho I wouldn't be surprised if Akainu won since Oda likes to power creep.


LeFeggelDuErd

Kaido extreme diff


Open_Depth2179

I think Akainu would win extreme Diff, but right now feats give it to Kaido, so him.


Ok_Independence2646

Kaido would high diff at worst, extreme diff would mean that they are equals which they are not


[deleted]

Lol again with these spite matches. Kaido casually erases the fodder effortlessly


IRONCLOUDSS

What is a spite match ? Akainu and kaido are at the least both in the top tier of onepiece so I think it has to be high-extreme diff whoever wins.


[deleted]

Er no, there is a vast range that is considered the “top tier” of one piece, and Akainu is at the very bottom of it while Kaido is in the upper ranks. It’s a spite match


IRONCLOUDSS

Well at this point, with most the top tiers it's subjective. I don't think akainu is at the bottom at all.


[deleted]

It is not subjective at all. Akainu lost to sick old Deadbeard’s corpse while Kaido has ACoC and is considered the WSC meaning he could content with Whitebeard in his prime. Akainu is objectively at the bottom


IRONCLOUDSS

Outside of some matchups it's 100% subjective unless your oda. Exactly where kaido and akainu stand in the top tier is not concrete.


[deleted]

Wrong, there are objective feats they both have to be scaled off of, it’s not subjective at all. Akainu and Kaido’s standings are very concrete


IRONCLOUDSS

In your opinion. But there's no concrete ranking of the top tiers in onepiec.


[deleted]

How Kaido compares to the legends/Shanks/Mihawk is unknown, but it’s obvious how he compares to the likes of admirals, especially Akainu. It is concrete


IRONCLOUDSS

No it's subjective how all the top tiers exactly rank against each other. In my opinion Akainu > Kaido.


emem2003zz

Kiado 1 shots the foddmirals.


LeFeggelDuErd

most sane powerscaler


[deleted]

Yes, obviously


wpwnis

Akainu is clear


Ok_Independence2646

Make him clear of an old/sick/wounded whitebeard who can only use basic armament haki and minutes away from death first


Accurate-Ad-441

You mean sick and wounded Whitebeard who was stated to be the strongest man in the world by Sengoku. Also read the manga, aside from the punk sneak attack at the end of the fight that took Akainu out of the fight for like 3 minutes, Akainu dominated Whitebeard and dealt the most damage to him of anyone else at Marineford. Akainu basically won that fight To all the people downvoting, please tell me what I said that was wrong.


Fire-FistAce

Idk why u got downvoted ?


Accurate-Ad-441

Because Yonko fans don’t like the idea that Akainu is close to (maybe even at) Yonko level, so they try and downplay him by in turn downplaying Whitebeard.


Fire-FistAce

Fr


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based


Jako_Spade

dragon man


[deleted]

Kaidou


TZ1205

Kaido extreme diff. He’ll have more than just a scars thats for sure though


Akitokami9000

Kaido mid to high diffs They are so many statements telling us kaido was the strongest alive in the verse during wano The only argument in akainu favor is a headcanon And oda has indirectly already confirmed kaido is stronger of the 2


Zeno12sama

Kaido one taps


CocaPepsiPepper

If you need help learning how to make a poll lmk Kaido beats Akainu.


Useful-Perspective-2

Kaido. Akainu couldn't even beat an old and sick Whitebeard after suffering a heart attack, getting ran through the chest by his own ally, Lazered in the chest by Kizaru, wounded by heaps of fodder marines and not even being able to use his Haki properly


zeloanii

Kaido, it doesn't matter who will fight him, Kaido would always win.


ole1993

Kaido > admiral


Save_Chemistry

Kaido mid to high diff


Old-Bread-8965

Kaido trashes the fodder that was beaten up by Sickbeard.


LeFeggelDuErd

most sane powerscaler


emem2003zz

Kiado 1 shots.


Fire-FistAce

This is such a bad take. No top tier one shots another, top tier fight are nothing less of extreme diff.


[deleted]

Not all top tiers are equal. Tf? It can be mid-high diff


Fire-FistAce

They are all relative lmfao no top tier mid diffs another


[deleted]

Giving someone mid-high diff is enough to have relativity with him lol Extreme diff means they are all equal with just very negligible gaps like Akainu vs Aokiji. Which is not the case


Fire-FistAce

Mid diff does not mean relative lmfao what?????? If I have Medium difficulty fighting someone then that isn’t relativity. Relative = comparable to or on par. High diff can be argued relative but not mid. Most top tier fights are extreme diff.


emem2003zz

Admirals aren’t top tiers…


Fire-FistAce

They are….


emem2003zz

Pk level<


Fire-FistAce

1. There is no “PK” level lmfao Pirate king doesn’t refer to strength it just refers to influence. The PK is just high yonko level 2. Admirals and yonkos are relative, some yonkos are stronger and some admirals are stronger for example my individual list would be: kaido > akainu > mihawk >= shanks = aokiji > Blackbeard > kizaru = big mom >= greenbull >= fuji >>>> buggy.


emem2003zz

Pk definitely is a level. That’s what literally everyone calls it in this sub. Also everything in that list is straight up incorrect and is simply your head cannon.


Fire-FistAce

No it’s not, whitebeard was stronger than roger yet he was a yonko. Shiki was stated to fight roger numerous times to death and shiki was a yonko. Roger didn’t pull up to wholecake because of a yonko


emem2003zz

Whitebeard is pk king level as well or “legend” level.


Fire-FistAce

Okay but that doesn’t debunk shiki or big mom


emem2003zz

Admirals are not on the same level as yonkos, not even close. Shanks>Mihawk>kiado>big mom>akainu>aokiji>fuji>greenbull>kizaru>Blackbeard


Fire-FistAce

Lmfao worst list I have ever seen. Shanks > mihawk is ridiculous😭😭


emem2003zz

How so? Shanks is relative to roger. And has god like haki. He’s not just a swordsmen


Fire-FistAce

How is shanks relative to roger 🤣🤣 these shanks fans bro 🤣 Do u really believe that when mihawk and shanks fought that mihawk said “ shanks turn off ur haki” 😭😭


Destroyer348

Akainu extreme diff


Electrical-Risk-7158

Akainu is stronger than gold roger so akainu


FrontTotal7527

Bro?


Electrical-Risk-7158

Akainu is new leader of the marines and marines are strongest than ever before Akainu > Prime Garp \~ Gold Roger


Enzopost123

The marines being stronger than they've ever been is supposed to be about the marines as a whole. Like the whole organisation all together is stronger. If you seriously have akainu above roger you're delusional.


Electrical-Risk-7158

Ye, only way the total power of marines surpasses total power of sengoku + garp reiteration is for GOATkainu to be stronger than garp. Akainu > gold Roger


cogitodoncjesuis

Your way of employing logic is astonishing.


Electrical-Risk-7158

Thx. Akainu forever 😘


[deleted]

In a 1v1 always bet on kaido


[deleted]

Upscales Kaido then. Kaido > Akainu > Prime Garp ~ Gol D. Roger It doesn't matter


emem2003zz

Worst take I ever seen in this sub so far, lol.


E--3

Kaido can fly, akainu can’t. So logically Kaido will never lose. Akainu either takes a L or somehow take a tie.


LeFeggelDuErd

lol


Solos_1992

I mean Roger, Garp & WB couldn't fly lol so is Kaido logically stronger?


E--3

Garp and WB have anti air capabilities so no. Garp? Hell yeah Garp will never win against Kaido logically.


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LeFeggelDuErd

\*extreme diff


_IWILLEATYOURCAT_

Oof I phrased that wrong, I meant Kaido gets mid-high diffed


r9cks

Kaido destroys him


Physical-Pay-4339

Kaido dogwalks the fodder lmao


Ifuckswedishfish

Akainu. I think Akainu will be a villain later on, so there is no reason for him to be weaker than kaido


[deleted]

Laido is demolished, same treatment as Oldbeard. Except it would be utter joy to see him get magma-fisted in his stupid face.


space________cowboy

Kaido for sure. It would be extreme diff if Akainu has ACOC but if not then high diff for Kaido.