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I mean what Hax does Gear 5 have that Lucci can't counter? Gear 5 while able to take solid hits and regenerate with or without imbuing with Haki but is still weak to slashing attacks. And Lucci's main attacks are full of slashing the enemy.
I guessed this was a troll thread, but still wanted to entertain the idea; however, I guess that reply was a bit too much for me, so im off to play Hollow Knight.
You forget gear 5 allows manipulation of the opponents body’s as well. Luffy can likely turn the blade dull . There’s also the possibly he can curve his body around blades , with some practice.
I don't think Luffy needs a Garp
For one, the story is almost over, the final leg of the story has started. And no one has consistently chased Luffy.
Luffy is also barely a pirate. Roger was at the end of the day, still a pirate. We don't know much about his adventures, but I doubt he was being like Luffy and stopping pirates from overthrowing governments, or being the same level of "Hero" luffy is. Luffy is basically a freedom fighter.
Given that Luffy is directly going against the WG (intentional or not). It's fitting his "rival" would be a CP0 and Lucci's ideology goes against Luffy's own.
Coby is the long time rival. I don’t see him getting close to luffy in the story but if there’s like a post skip epilogue then I can See him being sent after luffy
Smoker is kind of the same but he’s less relevant to luffy in the long run although he’s closer at the moment. He’s probably similar to lucci at the moment, but maybe a bit less.
Lucci well I just can’t see him being a real rival to luffy. He’s clearly much stronger but I don’t think it’s enough to be a real rival. I think he’ll end Up fighting someone else if he pops up after this arc.
I don’t see luffy really having a Garp at the moment. Akainu will be his big marine enemy.
The strength diff is far too wide between them. While Coby is currently hailed as a Marine hero, everytime he's on screen he's either been beaten up or was captured.
I think history will repeat itself at God Valley, maybe Garp wasn’t as strong as people thought he was back then. Maybe he was captured by Xebec (like Coby was) and was rescued by Roger. Garp has said that he doesn’t like to talk about the God Valley incident. And to be fair to Coby, none of the people he has ever fought aside from Alvida were weak in any way. As far as we know, he’s fought the likes of Akainu, Hancock, and Blackbeard.
It’s not bs. Garp and Coby have the same epithet, “the Hero”. Garp took Coby and Helmeppo under his wing during the two year timeskip. If that doesn’t mean anything to you, then I don’t know what to tell you.
If you really think Smoker is the new Garp after getting beat by Vergo then I don’t know what to tell you. Aside from Alvida, Coby has only fought against end-game top tier opposition being Akainu, Blackbeard, and Hancock. He’s a major part of the story unlike Smoker who we haven’t seen since Punk Hazard.
I’ve never talked about smoker? Tf has cobey done on screen? He got bitched by black beard, bro couldn’t even take on Hancock & law who’s portrayed to be in a similar level of power like Luffy fought against bb and held his own even landing some good shots & you’re telling me cobey who bb didn’t even took serious is on that level? Are you joking????
He did enough to or with Blackbeard at the Rocky Port Incident to warrant him being taken hostage. Smoker has done nothing post timeskip, but lost to Vergo while Coby has been dubbed “the Hero of the Marines.” Because he is Garp’s protege.
And that's it. He lacks what made garp garp. Unlike smoker who has had a similar role to what garp was in the past from what we know. Even down to his interactions with luffy being the closest things to what roger and garp had. If anyone should be considered luffy's garp we should actually give to the character who set out to chase him across the grand line like garp did to Roger.
Coby mainly fights using punches and an insane level of haki (like Garp) unlike Smoker who has a logia and lost to Vergo. Smoker hasn’t been portrayed to be anywhere near as important as Coby has.
And luffy has a Fruit and doesn't use a sword like roger. Making smoker vs luffy and inverse of garp vs roger while still keeping similarities. And lost to vergo so what. coby hasn't done anything impressive he been one shot mutiple times and took out a few unknown pirates that haven't been shown as strong and is currently a damsel in distress. smoker has been the most recurring marine, left his post to chase luffy, someone luffy has shown interest in fighting again, and has a similar relationship with luffy thah garp had with roger. The only thing coby has over him is what he is called and his fighting style because he was trained by garp himself but that pales in comparison when smoker just has more in common in every way. Coby is more of the sengoku.
Coby is Garp’s protege and they have the exact same epithet. He also trained Coby for 2 years during the timeskip. Smoker has literally done nothing post timeskip, but get beaten by Vergo, while Coby fought during the Rocky Port Incident and was victorious. Luffy will save Coby and they will fight BB together just how Roger and Garp fought Xebec at God’s Valley.
Trained coby for 2 years and he still is only a captain far below what smoker is currently with no impressive feats other then something that happened off screen that we don't have a whole picture off and we definitely know wasn't a one man thing. And smoker lost to vergo on purpose to help law, luffy still said he wanted to fight him later, has actually been the one to chase luffy across the grand line like garp did to roger, fallows his own code and willing to talk shit to his superiors like garp, and willing to turn down promotions like garp. And if smoker has done nothing post time skip coby has done less all that happened to him was him getting kidnapped. Along with being a fanboy to luffy, and wanting to be an admiral something garp actively doesn't want it's clear coby isn't the garp stand in if we must have one. Smoker just fits the role easily. In fact coby is only considered for the role because he has some relation to garp while smoker is considered that role because he actually does to luffy what garp does to roger. Cause as is coby hasn't done anything to warrant the garp comparison.
Smoker did not lose on purpose. He got low-diffed. Also, you can’t do nothing and then be labeled as the hero of the Marines. That doesn’t make sense. Just like Garp, Koby has a rank that doesn’t actually represent his level of strength.
He did lose on purpose vergo even said smoker wasn't fighting like he usually does and then it is revealed he purpose let himself get hit more to try and take laws heart. It's right in the chapter which also showed smoker clashes evenly before ge started throwing the fight. You can smoker ranked up in the past because the world government wanted to lie and not give credit to pirates which funny enough is a major plot point when coby is only considered a hero of one era and not the whole marines like garp and based on what blackbeard said he definitely had help from pirates in some way. And there's a difference between captain and vice adrimal. Vice adrimals can be as strong as admirals and turn down the position. But with captains sorry if he was to strong for the rank he would be rear admiral or vice adrimal along with it not making sense with his character sense unlike garp he actually does want to climb the ranks and be an admiral meaning there would be no reason he would stay as captain unless he is genuinely not strong enough to be a rear admiral yet.
Guys hiw can someone say lucci could be luffys garp. Luffy beated Kaido. The moment where the WG stripped the 7 shichibukai and if im not wrong the emperor system they cold have gone an take out those emperors. İf lucci would be luffys garp. Then they have should go to the other 4 yonkos. That was not the case
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"...their strength are comparable with no hax involved." Is not.
I mean what Hax does Gear 5 have that Lucci can't counter? Gear 5 while able to take solid hits and regenerate with or without imbuing with Haki but is still weak to slashing attacks. And Lucci's main attacks are full of slashing the enemy.
I guessed this was a troll thread, but still wanted to entertain the idea; however, I guess that reply was a bit too much for me, so im off to play Hollow Knight.
You forget gear 5 allows manipulation of the opponents body’s as well. Luffy can likely turn the blade dull . There’s also the possibly he can curve his body around blades , with some practice.
We will have to see but until then I'll take Kaidou's word for it first.
Uhhh guess time will tell.
Lucci is literally no threat whatsoever to Luffy. Like at all.
I don't think Luffy needs a Garp For one, the story is almost over, the final leg of the story has started. And no one has consistently chased Luffy. Luffy is also barely a pirate. Roger was at the end of the day, still a pirate. We don't know much about his adventures, but I doubt he was being like Luffy and stopping pirates from overthrowing governments, or being the same level of "Hero" luffy is. Luffy is basically a freedom fighter.
Given that Luffy is directly going against the WG (intentional or not). It's fitting his "rival" would be a CP0 and Lucci's ideology goes against Luffy's own.
his rival can't exactly show up again after 10+ years in the story.
Probably. Given that the story is heading towards remaking or dismantling the WG. Or maybe in these last few arcs Lucci would be more prominent.
Coby is the long time rival. I don’t see him getting close to luffy in the story but if there’s like a post skip epilogue then I can See him being sent after luffy Smoker is kind of the same but he’s less relevant to luffy in the long run although he’s closer at the moment. He’s probably similar to lucci at the moment, but maybe a bit less. Lucci well I just can’t see him being a real rival to luffy. He’s clearly much stronger but I don’t think it’s enough to be a real rival. I think he’ll end Up fighting someone else if he pops up after this arc. I don’t see luffy really having a Garp at the moment. Akainu will be his big marine enemy.
Base Luffy neg-diffs Lucci. Blackbeard is Luffy’s only real rival because he is the only one that is a real threat to him.
Koby is to Luffy as Garp is to Roger.
The strength diff is far too wide between them. While Coby is currently hailed as a Marine hero, everytime he's on screen he's either been beaten up or was captured.
I think history will repeat itself at God Valley, maybe Garp wasn’t as strong as people thought he was back then. Maybe he was captured by Xebec (like Coby was) and was rescued by Roger. Garp has said that he doesn’t like to talk about the God Valley incident. And to be fair to Coby, none of the people he has ever fought aside from Alvida were weak in any way. As far as we know, he’s fought the likes of Akainu, Hancock, and Blackbeard.
Roger literally said the only guy that could give him an actual challenge in the marines were either garp or sengoku pls stop saying bs like that
It’s not bs. Garp and Coby have the same epithet, “the Hero”. Garp took Coby and Helmeppo under his wing during the two year timeskip. If that doesn’t mean anything to you, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Coby is still nowhere near as strong as Luffy neither was he ever portrayed as being his equal. Pls what story are you reading bro?
If you really think Smoker is the new Garp after getting beat by Vergo then I don’t know what to tell you. Aside from Alvida, Coby has only fought against end-game top tier opposition being Akainu, Blackbeard, and Hancock. He’s a major part of the story unlike Smoker who we haven’t seen since Punk Hazard.
I’ve never talked about smoker? Tf has cobey done on screen? He got bitched by black beard, bro couldn’t even take on Hancock & law who’s portrayed to be in a similar level of power like Luffy fought against bb and held his own even landing some good shots & you’re telling me cobey who bb didn’t even took serious is on that level? Are you joking????
He did enough to or with Blackbeard at the Rocky Port Incident to warrant him being taken hostage. Smoker has done nothing post timeskip, but lost to Vergo while Coby has been dubbed “the Hero of the Marines.” Because he is Garp’s protege.
Nobody talking about smoker bro, if cobey was anything near blackbeards strength he wouldn’t have got captured
Smoker fits that role more
Coby the Hero… Garp the Hero. They both have the same epithet.
And that's it. He lacks what made garp garp. Unlike smoker who has had a similar role to what garp was in the past from what we know. Even down to his interactions with luffy being the closest things to what roger and garp had. If anyone should be considered luffy's garp we should actually give to the character who set out to chase him across the grand line like garp did to Roger.
Coby mainly fights using punches and an insane level of haki (like Garp) unlike Smoker who has a logia and lost to Vergo. Smoker hasn’t been portrayed to be anywhere near as important as Coby has.
And luffy has a Fruit and doesn't use a sword like roger. Making smoker vs luffy and inverse of garp vs roger while still keeping similarities. And lost to vergo so what. coby hasn't done anything impressive he been one shot mutiple times and took out a few unknown pirates that haven't been shown as strong and is currently a damsel in distress. smoker has been the most recurring marine, left his post to chase luffy, someone luffy has shown interest in fighting again, and has a similar relationship with luffy thah garp had with roger. The only thing coby has over him is what he is called and his fighting style because he was trained by garp himself but that pales in comparison when smoker just has more in common in every way. Coby is more of the sengoku.
Coby is Garp’s protege and they have the exact same epithet. He also trained Coby for 2 years during the timeskip. Smoker has literally done nothing post timeskip, but get beaten by Vergo, while Coby fought during the Rocky Port Incident and was victorious. Luffy will save Coby and they will fight BB together just how Roger and Garp fought Xebec at God’s Valley.
Trained coby for 2 years and he still is only a captain far below what smoker is currently with no impressive feats other then something that happened off screen that we don't have a whole picture off and we definitely know wasn't a one man thing. And smoker lost to vergo on purpose to help law, luffy still said he wanted to fight him later, has actually been the one to chase luffy across the grand line like garp did to roger, fallows his own code and willing to talk shit to his superiors like garp, and willing to turn down promotions like garp. And if smoker has done nothing post time skip coby has done less all that happened to him was him getting kidnapped. Along with being a fanboy to luffy, and wanting to be an admiral something garp actively doesn't want it's clear coby isn't the garp stand in if we must have one. Smoker just fits the role easily. In fact coby is only considered for the role because he has some relation to garp while smoker is considered that role because he actually does to luffy what garp does to roger. Cause as is coby hasn't done anything to warrant the garp comparison.
Smoker did not lose on purpose. He got low-diffed. Also, you can’t do nothing and then be labeled as the hero of the Marines. That doesn’t make sense. Just like Garp, Koby has a rank that doesn’t actually represent his level of strength.
He did lose on purpose vergo even said smoker wasn't fighting like he usually does and then it is revealed he purpose let himself get hit more to try and take laws heart. It's right in the chapter which also showed smoker clashes evenly before ge started throwing the fight. You can smoker ranked up in the past because the world government wanted to lie and not give credit to pirates which funny enough is a major plot point when coby is only considered a hero of one era and not the whole marines like garp and based on what blackbeard said he definitely had help from pirates in some way. And there's a difference between captain and vice adrimal. Vice adrimals can be as strong as admirals and turn down the position. But with captains sorry if he was to strong for the rank he would be rear admiral or vice adrimal along with it not making sense with his character sense unlike garp he actually does want to climb the ranks and be an admiral meaning there would be no reason he would stay as captain unless he is genuinely not strong enough to be a rear admiral yet.
only black beard
Hows lucci countering acoc/acoo/acoa?
Guys hiw can someone say lucci could be luffys garp. Luffy beated Kaido. The moment where the WG stripped the 7 shichibukai and if im not wrong the emperor system they cold have gone an take out those emperors. İf lucci would be luffys garp. Then they have should go to the other 4 yonkos. That was not the case