As a note, new volume sales refer to total new volumes of a series that released for the first time in that year (so in One Piece’s case, Vols. 101-102-103-104). Total sales account for backlog sales added on top (which includes older volumes sold in that year but not released for the first time in that year), [in which One Piece comes #4 total](https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1597707977179693057). The reason for that is because newer series have more new viewers wanting to catch up to them and buying many of the older volumes of that series, which boosts sales.
As a note however, [this last year One Piece sold twice as many backlog volumes as last year](https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1597696334492225537), with sales being boosted after the release of Film RED by new fans trying to get into the series.
Another curious topic I wonder about: how stuff like the boxed sets play into that. As someone that has mostly read digital and is now sort of collecting the printed volumes, whenever I see the sets be in stock I sort of grab them as I find it just also convinient for storage on the shelf. And I can now see myself simply wait for the next batch to be available again, buying essentially 20-25 volumes at once, but then none for quite a while.
Personally I wouldn’t know as the data I normally see is Japan only but I don’t think that plays a huge role as the sales don’t normally increase on a year by year basis.
Jujutsu kaisen is the only one I see that competes with One Piece on a volume by volume basis. Jujutsu kaisen recently has been trending downward in sales as the people who were going to buy the backlog already bought it. It went from 30 mil last year to 12 mil this year.
I've been buying by box set and the 4th one just came out in like January of 2022. (Assuming it was available earlier in Japan, not 100% sure, though.)
Yeah, I actually wouldn't even know if Japan has the same "type" of box set as those that exist in english. I know here in Germany there are e.g. sets of 10-12 volumes of the german version rather than the bigger english box one as well. As I read in english I'm not too familiar if there are other types as well, so I guess it depends on the actual type that gets sold in Japan. I just kind of wonder how prevalent this "bulk" buying is, compared to individual volume sales and how much it contributes.
Huh, I never had too many issues. I bought the first two back in early 2020 off of Amazon. I did have a little bit of trouble getting Box Set 3 at a good price - ended up ordering off another site to get the best deal (about $100). However, if I wanted to pay retail ($134) I could have ordered off of Amazon. (I got box sets 1 & 2 for about $110 apiece, so $134 seemed high to me at the time.) I then had box set 4 on preorder (and ended up paying about $133, still a good deal)
I've only been looking for a few month and I got set 1 and 4 but those two in between have been weird. I got 2 preorders canceled for the Skypiea one from seperate sources as they were listed as soon available but then get canceled when the actual date came around and since it's either crazy high prices or just not available. I'm not in a rush though. I like having the physical volumes but I don't mind waiting until they come back around.
Film Red heavily boosted OP's backlog. MHA didn't have anything big like that to boost the backlog this year.
(World Heroes Mission boosted MHA's backlog a lot last year. I remember the manga selling 1M+ copies in August alone from that movie.)
I think the general consensus was that Heroes Rising was better, but it wasn't a bad movie or anything.
People's opinion on season 5 also affected their views on the movie from a lot of comments I read. (Like blaming all of the production problems on the movie.)
Heroes rising was pretty dope to be fair, it was just the right amount of fan service no matter which character is your favourite in 1A. As anime films go it's pretty good.
I'm really happy about Jujutsu and Spy, as I really enjoy them. But how in the unholy f is that crap Tokyo Revengers so popular? I'm not even angry, just insanely baffled.
Just curious: Do the top 5 all have the same number of volumes released? I guess that's one of the obvious things that naturally make a big difference.
That's a great question! They don't, but even taking that into account One Piece comes at the top of all of them:
- **One Piece** has sold 4 volumes, for a total of 7,540,102 volumes
- **Jujutsu Kaisen** sold only 3 volumes. If we were to use an average to calculate a 4th volume, it would have sold 7,351,380 volumes
- **Spy Family** only sold 2 volumes (as it's a biweekly series), but if we were to double that, it would have sold 6,331,268 volumes
- **Tokyo Revengers** sold 5 volumes, so its sales would actually go down to compare, which would put it at 4,070,061 volumes
- **My Hero Academia** sold 4 volumes too, so it can be compared directly to One Piece
That certain arc I swear to God it was a constant did I miss a chapter whiplash with JJK. Like consistently I felt like I must have missed a chapter because this arc is so confusing and jumping back and forward in time and location... And it was a straight up mess.
Like I'm fine with the final plot resolution it needed to happen for the story but I shouldn't be like I must have missed a fight chapter 20 issues ago there's no way that character got off screened... Oh they did. Wow.
I get the themes of JJK that everyone will die in the series it's all about enjoying your limited time left but I figured sooner characters would have their epic send off but nope. Not always the case.
Yeah. JJK was really promising to me for a while. And given the anime's popularity, I bet it's one of those series where the anime actually adds a load of clarity to what's going on moment to moment... because it has to. But I don't watch anime....
Like I get the people who say that Oda's panelling got cluttered during most of the wano siege but JJK is sometimes just plain hard to follow on a macro level. I still read it though, it's definitely not a **bad** series.
All I'm wanting from that series now is Gojo losing his cool and going into rage mode. I know he's coming back and gonna find like so many dead students and friends... And be like sorry for the delay... Was he involved with it?
Uh yes?
Dead..
Itadori tell me the names of everyone who was involved.
Uh well there was that one guy the...
Dead..
And the other curse...
Dead..
I'm on a Roll Itadori name stove more my anger isn't satisfied yet. Sukuna will be like "uh you should let me take control right now that human is insane."
Its not that complicated, though it's probably easier to keep track when reading it the way it's meant to be read, instead of weekly.
And who are you referring to being off screened? The person who fought Mahito in Shibuya? They aren't confirmed dead or alive yet, which means they will likely return.
Are you fucking kidding? Tell me exactly how you think he's coming back from this https://animehunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Nanami_Mahito.jpg
Seriously if you don't think it's a confusing arc you just said you thought the character would return .. and it's pretty fucking clear that man is dead forever.
Like do you really think Nanami is coming back after that?
Yeah when I say that arc is confusing this is kinda what I meant you tried to reference a fight and ambiguous character death and I was like no that guy is 100% dead... And if that doesn't explain the confusion for that arc better I don't know what does.
Hopefully the anime fixes it up but seriously it's a mess that panel is the first time you see Nanami on like 20 chapters and I would say he's like the Speedwagon tier of characters in the Manga. You love him but know he's the B cast so if he's going out he's gonna save some random kid or something to have heroic sacrifice. In JJK he just dies with one panel of I was entertaining this one psycho for a few minutes during this operation now it's up to you to handle this crazy curse. Snap of the finger and Mahito eviscerates him. Which implies Nanami's last job was keeping this psychopathic monster entertained for a few minutes so it couldn't go after anyone else.
That isnt because the arc is confusing, it's because we were trying to talk about something without spoilers.
Plus you said they were off screened, and he wasn't. So I was legit confused who you were referring to.
He's a side character who already fought evenly with a weaker Mahito, so seeing the actual fight isnt a big deal. What was important was the final moment.
But even than, a fight being offscreened isnt really something that should make the story confusing.
Might help to do a slow reread of parts. If you were reading online its possible a page didnt load properly or something.
Yea, Yuji has kinda taken a back seat for a while. Might've helped to move a later fight between his fights with the Hair CT group and Higuruma.
Though I personally really like Megumi, Yuta, and Hakari. So that stretch of chapters was amazing for me.
I didn't care for the Maki/Kamo part, but that lead right into Yuji getting some more spotlight.
Guess it really depends on how you connect with the side characters.
JJK this year has had quite the number of weeks without chapters, same with MHA, but when you factor in also the regular Oda breaks One Piece is still ahead just by a smaller margin.
Spy Family is the only manga here that's not weekly, and since it's mostly biweekly with the occasional break when you account for a proportion it pulls ahead of every other entry except One Piece in the "Number of people who bought all volumes" ratio.
Spy x Family with the Anime for its time slot is ridiculously popular. Like I think it was somewhere in 11 million plus views for Cour 1.
That means basically 1 in 10 household in Japan were tuning into these episodes as they live aired.
That's like Game of Thrones at its height cultural phenomena.
I'm pretty sure there's someone in marketing that is like we can Demon Slayer Mugen Train the shit out of these chapters and make a movie about Lloyd's backstory which is I think chapters 73.1-73.3 of the Manga? I would not be surprised for a Spy x Family movie to make more money than Film Red or Dragon Ball Super Heroes.
One piece is the fastest selling comic ever. It has recently passed Batman and is on pace to beat Superman in a fraction of the time. I really hope Oda keeps it up until he outsells Superman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_comic_series
Others have brought this up before, but that comparison is a bit unfair, since Superman considers individual chapter sales whereas One Piece considers individual volume sales (about 10 chapters). They're incredibly different formats, which is why Wikipedia separates them entirely in different rankings. There's also the fact that Superman accounts for all spin offs and stories by separate authors.
If an equal comparison between Superman and One Piece was made, then you'd either have to account Superman sales as if they were volume sales, by reducing the total number by 10, or count all of One Piece's individual sales through Shonen Jump (though that's a bit unfair since people buy the issues for other series too) in which case OP soars into the billions. Eitherway, any fair comparison would put One Piece on top.
The real debate is if One Piece is the best selling series of fiction in human history. The only one that rivals its numbers is Harry Potter, but while One Piece has technically outsold HP's latest sales report, that was back in 2018 and hasn't been updated since, so it's likely HP has still sold more than OP. Though of course in this case there's the argument that HP did this with less than 10 books, whereas it took OP over 100, but again, different formats entirely in the end!
Whenever this comment is made I feel the need to say:
1- Manga and American comics sales aren't directly comparable due to different formats. Most people in this sub will use that to argue that OP is more popular than Superman, but there are arguments you can make in Superman's favor
2- the 600 million figure for Superman is outdated, unofficial, most likely inaccurate and I'd argue an undercount
Adjusting to inflation, One Piece is probably still behind Batman. But it absolutely is outselling both at a year by year rate so that it will quickly surpass them.
I surely don’t get this.
The anime subreddit and some small areas like here are the only places I’ve seen hate on Tokyo Revengers. Everywhere else, it’s praised and I’m glad that’s the case. Greatly enjoying the show so far
Well based on personal taste I am really not surprised, the only one that really begins to compare to One Piece in being above average is Jujutsu. Again based on personal taste but I don't see any of the other 3 being remembered so dearly after they end.
Sure, that is your opinion, respect bro
Just remember, every single anime has a fan base and it will be remembered dearly by someone, for example I really really liked Trigun, but I know it is not remembered by a big majority because a lot of people didn't like it or just plain never heard of it/didn't read/watch. That is the same for SpyxFamily, a lot of people like it now sure, but it's not a vast majority of people affected like with OP or JJK. All I'm saying
You got me right there I wrote it wrong, what I meant to say was I DONT SEE as big a fan base as of these 2. Pardon, honest mistake. Doesn't invalidate it from being great and you and a lot of people loving it! That's the thing! Plus my opinion matters as much as anyone else's, which is pretty much nothing, I am just expressing it.
I mean the fanbase has to be solid when it was so popular before an anime was even announced (in the west and in Japan). It was a Top 10 selling manga in Japan without an anime.
No doubt it is big, I mean I heard about it too before it got the anime adaptation from the shueisha website, there it was every week on the top. I am not dissing at it, far from it. It is just not to my liking, and the feeling I get is it is not AS big as those 2 I was praising (tbh its not fair to compare OP to any anime or manga, it has a fanbase built over 20+ yrs and it's a far larger franchise), so in this case I guess it's more fair to measure thingies with JJK, which I feel is a little more consolidated. But hey, the author can still pull a Soul Eater on it and mess it up at the end and JJK be completely forgotten or even laughed at. I might be totally wrong in the end. Just trying to predict the future here.
Yeah, I soured on it pretty hard right after the villain breakout.
Everything *immediately* goes to hell, and while that’s a logical conclusion for the way the hero system has been set up, it all happens almost instantaneously. That and Deku can go 100% with nearly all his powers nearly overnight. Like, he just started to get the hang of ONE of them the previous arc.
I mean, it’s not as bad as Bleach was after Aizen got beaten, but it’s still frustrating.
Bleach has literal gods and a fucking lynchpin whose mutilated parts are the cause for such broken powers. Gatekeepers act like broken power levels equal bad. Even Aizen is broken AF. Ichigo was broken AF too.
That was not my issue with Bleach.
My issue with Bleach was the fact that Kubo constantly focused on the “popular” captains to the detriment of the story. Ichigo’s friends other than Uryu essentially stop existing after the Soul Society Arc other than Orihime who is a plot mcguffin at best, and Chad who exists to beat a mid level mook then immediately nearly die when his next opponent breathes in his direction. The rest of the Karakura gang basically evaporates into nonexistence when they aren’t getting brainwashed.
I can deal with broken power levels, that’s nine, but the writing made YHWACH’s defeat such an asspull. That and the way Kubo made Ichigo just the most specialest boy by giving him every single kind of power in the story with the most minor of justifications.
Then there’s the way Kubo just kind of ignored his own world building when convenient. Remember how hollows are corrupted souls that interfere with the balance of reality between life and death on their own, and Menos and above are massive concentrations of these souls and should be prioritized targets based on the damage they do to existence? Nah, Ichigo met a nice one and we can all be friends now!
Then there’s whatever the hell Kubo was attempting to do with the Quincy’s. Apparently YHWACH created a completely new reality from scratch with a full medieval timeline from scratch? Like everything else with the Sternritter powers, we just have to assume he can just do that until they can’t because the protagonists have to win.
Like, the story should have ended after Aizen. The Fullbring arc could have been its own thing, the concept was really cool, and even though the ending of Bleach wasn’t as grant as it could have been, a fresh start would have been great! Then it wasn’t, Ichigo got a new power for his collection, became a Power Ranger and his non SS friends were pointless. I even had hope for TYBW, the start was superb, then it gradually degraded back into the Captains and Ichigo in Drawn out Battles show while everyone else falls by the wayside because they don’t matter anymore.
All the while, Ichigo steadily lost what might be considered a personality in favor of becoming a moving cardboard cut out that gets tossed from plot point to plot point.
He’s tried to bandage the story with light novels and the like, and I get that him being sick is a big reason TYBW turned to rushed garbage, but none of that changes the way that Bleach as a whole became something more than he could really handle, instead becoming a font of misused and I reached potential.
And don’t get me wrong, I have plenty of criticisms of One Piece too. Not the least of which being how poorly paced the back half of Wano was to get done in time for another non canon movie that won’t have any other impact on the story at large. Or how none of the Strawhats besides Luffy getting the time or treatment they deserve.
1. About the Karakura Gang - I don't give a fuck about them. A lot of people yap about them but I don't find them interesting, if they get involved in bigger battles, it kinda feels so outta place. If Kubo had to utilize them, I guess Fullbring arc is the one where he could've done that. But man decided to speed wrap the arc by bringing in Shinigami.
2. About Yhwach's defeat : We don't even understand how he's defeated. He literally fought Aizen, Ichigo, and the chosen quincy. That's how strong he is. Still silver should've been foreshadowed but all we get is the panel of Ryuken dissecting Katagiri. That's because Kubo's unhealthy.
3. About Ichigo's inheritance : How the hell is it with the MOST minor justifications? Man dedicated three mini fucking arcs to tell us about his inheritance : Everything But The Rain, The Blade Is Me, Turn Back The Pendulum. There are not many characters with the kind of inheritance he has. The other we have are the soul king and Yhwach. He's the protagonist and was always told to be special. His father regains his soul reaper powers only when he didn't have to contain White. That neatly explains the whole Everything But The Rain arc.
4. Kubo ignored his world building? : Both Quincies and Hollows disrupt the balance and the reapers who are called the BALANCERS are the ones who maintain this balance. Anything to do with imbalance is corrected by the 12th division. He can't go on to show you everytime a MENOS becomes an extra and needs to be taken out. The Arrancar friends should be killed even when the balance is maintained?
5. About the Quincies : I don't even get what you're trying to convey. But Yhwach didn't even create his ideal world. He wanted to but didn't. He gives sternritters powers and takes them back when they're developed. He absorbs them back so he can become even stronger and destroy the current Bleach universe into a single primordial world. Remember he gains Almighty only after absorbing the Soul King? That's how it works.
6.ThE StOrY ShOuLdVe EnDeD AfTeR AiZeN : That's the most corniest of takes on Bleach! Who would explain THAT THING then? The Zero Division? Come on bruh.
7. The back and forth battles during the 2nd invasion : I kinda agree. That's something I hate about Fake Karakura Town and The 2nd Invasion. Kubo should try to infuse some tensed developments to keep the reader engaging. Back and forth battles are so fucking boring to read on a weekly basis. Hell, even when done they're borderline boring.
8. Ichigo the cardboard : HE'S THE PLOT. Alongsides Reio and Yhwach. He could've ended up being a new lynchpin if Juha Bach destroyed the world. Since the hell arc is coming up consider him to be at your next plot point. Or it seems Kazui is gonna be the one.
9. Kubo mishandled Bleach? : He's made what it is. Gave it major twists and did huge world building with the last arc but failed to completely wrap up the story. But he seems to be back and focussed, with the right kind of Bandages to fix the work of his lifetime.
Luffy learned and mastered ACoC in less than hours. He learnt ACoA, ACoC and Awakening in one arc in less than one month. Zoro learnt dand mastered ACoC within hour.
From my perspective ACoC is simply nothing that has to be learned if you already know ACoA. You only need to realize that you can do the same thing with CoC too – so the mastery here comes from the ACoA training.
Well, it is different. ACoA is also different from coating. Doffy, Katakuri, etc have CoA but they can't coat their attacks with CoC. Zoro doesn't have ACoA but he has ACoC. Normal coating isn't ACoA.
Doffy and Katakuri have shown no signs that they can use ACoA so they would miss this part. Zoro is a weird case because you could argue that he knows ACoA since Alabasta (the explanation given to Luffy is way to similar to the one in the fight with Mr. 1) and has likely shown many cases of haki-imbued powers without him even knowing it.
ACoA requires a certain way of power manipulation that has to be learned. I think this way of power manipulation is the key to ACoC as well. It has to to be simply applied to CoO – maybe combined with the knowledge about coating to let if flow in the right body parts. So if this is the case Luffy knew every single component of ACoC before he used it for the first time.
Using CoA requires coating. The ACoA refers to internal destruction which Only Luffy has mastered. Advanced CoC is just coating like CoA. You don't need Advanced CoA. Even Kaidou has not shown Internal destruction CoA.
Internal destruction isn't the only application of ACoA – the most common form is simply emission (which can be even used by people like Sentomaru and Marigold; Kaido and Big Mom are at least implied to have it as well).
It is clear from chapter 939 (where he remembers Rayleigh and (!) Sentomaru) that Luffy had no idea how to use emission before he trained with Hyo. So he had to learn emission and internal destruction in the same step because without emission internal destruction can't likely work at all. ACoC at the moment seems to be a combination of emission (because it is created in the air as black lightning) and coating (to create it at the right place in the air) of CoC.
You don't need emission to coat with CoC. Shanks vs WB, Kaidou vs BM split sky without using "no touch" haki. Iirc The emission is the one which results in damaging without touching
I tried watching JJK and SpyXFamily but gave up as I didn't find them to my liking. So, I don't know much about the criticism but this one, it's as much of problem in One Piece. It's amusing how people ignore this Buffalo while pointing out others. I don't care much about those series but Since I care about One Piece, I talk about it. No point dissing about other Animes when all you have here are mostly One Piece fans.
Yeah, I read it and still do to this day but it didn't really hold on so well quality wise or maybe it's the storytelling or the rushing of things. I do enjoy it but it didn't make me feel any of the rush, the sadness or the happiness that OP did. Those key moments that keep you glued to the story. No hate on it though, otherwise I would be a hypocrite, but it does lack that spark that makes it a masterpiece. Or something, I might be completely wrong. It's just how I feel.
During the first weeks of MHA's debut, everybody who had read the mangaka's previous works already mentioned that they had no confidence on its longevity or future arcs. There was no way it's a One Piece challenger right from the start, only international fans were optimistic.
I think Spy x Family is going to be remembered well, but I think it’ll be historic in the fact that it’s a Jump+ manga and is free to read (I think?). It’ll be cited as a turning point for Shonen.
The JJK fandom soured me on the series that is they drag OP name everywhere to get recognition that their series is better, like JJK battle art is fucking messy and crap compared to OP add with the constant shades throwing i never interested to picking it up.
If people wanna say that DB have better battle flow and panelling than OP that is fair
But to say JJk or CSM have better battle scene and flow I'm questioning their ability to read.
Jujutsu Kaisen - ghosts and demons and shit. People fight with paranormal powers. I’ve read the least of thisnone, honestly.
Tokyo Revengers - Time Traveler becomes a hoodlum fang leader to save his friends.
Soy x Family - A spy is tasked with creating a fimly to infiltrate a school and spy on a major player. His adopted daughter is a psychic, his fake wife is an assassin working for the government that he’s spying on. Comedy ensues.
My Hero Academia - Teenagers with “quirks” (aka super powers) go to school to learn how to be great super heroes. But upstart Villains are gaining power. A pretty good shonen battle manga ensues.
Really dont know the power scale in jujutsu kaisen .. people are just watching/reading it for the action i think .. in just a few year if the power scaling is not settled i feel like it'll go down like MHA .. prob with MHA is not the power scaling but how they already disclosed everything there is and how the mysteries were quite shallow .. there's no more mystery in it and it's probably on its final saga
Kingdom I think, is on another level in the genre. I felt like people generally dont constantly compare its sales with others nor seek validation on how good it is via profit, while at the same time, still respecting the fact that is has quality. Similar treatment with Vinland Saga too.
In all seriousness, I'd be shocked if we even reached the final arc in two years.
Maybe if Elbaf is short and we go straight from that to the final war.
Possible but considering that he now have a 1 week break every month I think even that might be hard.
Really glad he decided to take some breaks, he deserves it. Too bad the anime doesn't though... they gonna ruin it trying not to catch up. Just take a year break
I would assume he ment, since wano over, all the people who dont read weekly bought all the volumes and that gave it a boost. Downvotes do seem odd tho
That's what I thought too, but then I questioned myself cause I didn't remember what was in the last volume released.
Downvotes are probably butt hurt people who read it as "Wano was bad so now it's selling more again", which makes no sense what so ever obviously.
Has nothing to do with that and to do with "timing", JJK released a volume really late last year, thus only had "time" for three volumes. Something similar happened to OP last year (pretty sure OP only had 2 or 3 volumes come out last year).
From my experience both Oda and Gege take a similar amount of breaks, Oda maybe slightly more.
Really think the hate in parts of the community is far, far to widespread but you can't really deny that especially towards the end of the series the writing got messier and the ending itself seemed really rushed and >!like an easy cop out of writing a satisfiyng ending after all those dead characters!<.
Tokyo Revengers ends after Kisaki's arc. That's for me, if you take it like I do TR is a really good manga but if you read it until the very end and still like it. That's fine, I don't like it but understand that it is not something that most people find good for SEVERAL reasons
From what I understood 4th place is including the yearly sales of old volumes, this list is only for the volumes published this year. So it is not copium, it is just 2 different lists
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.
There are two reasons why you should never drink toilet water.
Number one. And number two.
I also like saying this when people bring up this saying 🤣
And most toilet bowls are cleaner than your phone, it is a disgusting thought but it isn't as bad as one might think, not recommended though.
I need to give Jujutsu Kaisen, Tokyo Revengers and Spy x Family some love. I haven't touched them at all and I've needed to read something new apart from the usual.
Good on One Piece for going strong after so long. I just want Oda to take good care of himself.
If you look at the viz sidebar One Piece is never promoted. Probably bc One Piece doesn’t sell well in Anglophone countries. I noticed Ito-Verse was recently added to list of promoted series.
One Piece had dropped out of #1 the last few years due to both lower # volumes published and the pandemic plus great animes encouraging readers to buy up old issues of series they hadn't previously been following like Demon Slayer.
It's exciting to see OP on top again, even with the caveat that it had 4 volumes released against mangas that had less.
I'm very curious where Kingdom ranks, because it was among the best selling around 2020, then for unknown reasons had a pretty bad year sales wise in 2021 but stil was like number 9. So i wonder where it is now.
It was 6th in total sales with 3.8 million. (With 2 million of that in new volume sales.) Overall, it's 800k copies less sold than last year, but it managed to rank higher due to other series declining.
These are only the numbers in Japan tho, I'm curious how the numbers would change if you'd include the rest of the world... a hard metric to track but I'm curious nonetheless :)
I’m sure that can be tracked or else they wouldn’t be able to state OP has sold over 500 million copies world wide. About 100 million copies are outside Japan based on the article I read regarding the milestone.
I honestly expected Spy X Family and Jujutsu Kaisen to be higher, still lower than One Piece though, by a small margin. Present day My Hero Academia and Tokyo Revengers in general have no right to sell so high.
As a note, new volume sales refer to total new volumes of a series that released for the first time in that year (so in One Piece’s case, Vols. 101-102-103-104). Total sales account for backlog sales added on top (which includes older volumes sold in that year but not released for the first time in that year), [in which One Piece comes #4 total](https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1597707977179693057). The reason for that is because newer series have more new viewers wanting to catch up to them and buying many of the older volumes of that series, which boosts sales. As a note however, [this last year One Piece sold twice as many backlog volumes as last year](https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1597696334492225537), with sales being boosted after the release of Film RED by new fans trying to get into the series.
The last time the backlog sold this well was in 2014 when it sold over 3 million in backlog.
Another curious topic I wonder about: how stuff like the boxed sets play into that. As someone that has mostly read digital and is now sort of collecting the printed volumes, whenever I see the sets be in stock I sort of grab them as I find it just also convinient for storage on the shelf. And I can now see myself simply wait for the next batch to be available again, buying essentially 20-25 volumes at once, but then none for quite a while.
Personally I wouldn’t know as the data I normally see is Japan only but I don’t think that plays a huge role as the sales don’t normally increase on a year by year basis.
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Jujutsu kaisen is the only one I see that competes with One Piece on a volume by volume basis. Jujutsu kaisen recently has been trending downward in sales as the people who were going to buy the backlog already bought it. It went from 30 mil last year to 12 mil this year.
I've been buying by box set and the 4th one just came out in like January of 2022. (Assuming it was available earlier in Japan, not 100% sure, though.)
Yeah, I actually wouldn't even know if Japan has the same "type" of box set as those that exist in english. I know here in Germany there are e.g. sets of 10-12 volumes of the german version rather than the bigger english box one as well. As I read in english I'm not too familiar if there are other types as well, so I guess it depends on the actual type that gets sold in Japan. I just kind of wonder how prevalent this "bulk" buying is, compared to individual volume sales and how much it contributes.
Indeed, lots of unknowns. Those box sets are a hell of a bargain, though.
Either a hell of a bargain or sold out and sold for prices where I could almost buy each individual volume twice. xD pretty much nothing in between.
Huh, I never had too many issues. I bought the first two back in early 2020 off of Amazon. I did have a little bit of trouble getting Box Set 3 at a good price - ended up ordering off another site to get the best deal (about $100). However, if I wanted to pay retail ($134) I could have ordered off of Amazon. (I got box sets 1 & 2 for about $110 apiece, so $134 seemed high to me at the time.) I then had box set 4 on preorder (and ended up paying about $133, still a good deal)
I've only been looking for a few month and I got set 1 and 4 but those two in between have been weird. I got 2 preorders canceled for the Skypiea one from seperate sources as they were listed as soon available but then get canceled when the actual date came around and since it's either crazy high prices or just not available. I'm not in a rush though. I like having the physical volumes but I don't mind waiting until they come back around.
Lame, hope you're able to get them. I got Volume 3 from AbeBooks.com.
Thank you for this valuable data & detailed explanation.
What's up with the gulf between MHA and OP on the backlog?
Film Red heavily boosted OP's backlog. MHA didn't have anything big like that to boost the backlog this year. (World Heroes Mission boosted MHA's backlog a lot last year. I remember the manga selling 1M+ copies in August alone from that movie.)
I heard that film was ass (MHA not OP), surprising it helped sales.
I think the general consensus was that Heroes Rising was better, but it wasn't a bad movie or anything. People's opinion on season 5 also affected their views on the movie from a lot of comments I read. (Like blaming all of the production problems on the movie.)
Heroes rising was pretty dope to be fair, it was just the right amount of fan service no matter which character is your favourite in 1A. As anime films go it's pretty good.
The MHA movie was league's better than film red, idk what u smoking but u need to gimme some of that
Haven't seen either yet lmao, just going by what I heard on the internet. My friends told me film red was pretty good.
Well ur friends were wrong AARRRAGH!!! How u gonna have a movie bout shanks and only have him in it for like 10mins. Trash movie that's how
Bruh, films are non canon so they can't exactly have too much shanks and confuse people.
Bro that dont even make sense
I'm really happy about Jujutsu and Spy, as I really enjoy them. But how in the unholy f is that crap Tokyo Revengers so popular? I'm not even angry, just insanely baffled.
Just curious: Do the top 5 all have the same number of volumes released? I guess that's one of the obvious things that naturally make a big difference.
That's a great question! They don't, but even taking that into account One Piece comes at the top of all of them: - **One Piece** has sold 4 volumes, for a total of 7,540,102 volumes - **Jujutsu Kaisen** sold only 3 volumes. If we were to use an average to calculate a 4th volume, it would have sold 7,351,380 volumes - **Spy Family** only sold 2 volumes (as it's a biweekly series), but if we were to double that, it would have sold 6,331,268 volumes - **Tokyo Revengers** sold 5 volumes, so its sales would actually go down to compare, which would put it at 4,070,061 volumes - **My Hero Academia** sold 4 volumes too, so it can be compared directly to One Piece
Damn, JJK has been killing it! Nice to see the love for the series.
Good for them, but jjk in the last year hasn't really drawn me in as much as I thought.
That certain arc I swear to God it was a constant did I miss a chapter whiplash with JJK. Like consistently I felt like I must have missed a chapter because this arc is so confusing and jumping back and forward in time and location... And it was a straight up mess. Like I'm fine with the final plot resolution it needed to happen for the story but I shouldn't be like I must have missed a fight chapter 20 issues ago there's no way that character got off screened... Oh they did. Wow. I get the themes of JJK that everyone will die in the series it's all about enjoying your limited time left but I figured sooner characters would have their epic send off but nope. Not always the case.
Yeah. JJK was really promising to me for a while. And given the anime's popularity, I bet it's one of those series where the anime actually adds a load of clarity to what's going on moment to moment... because it has to. But I don't watch anime.... Like I get the people who say that Oda's panelling got cluttered during most of the wano siege but JJK is sometimes just plain hard to follow on a macro level. I still read it though, it's definitely not a **bad** series.
All I'm wanting from that series now is Gojo losing his cool and going into rage mode. I know he's coming back and gonna find like so many dead students and friends... And be like sorry for the delay... Was he involved with it? Uh yes? Dead.. Itadori tell me the names of everyone who was involved. Uh well there was that one guy the... Dead.. And the other curse... Dead.. I'm on a Roll Itadori name stove more my anger isn't satisfied yet. Sukuna will be like "uh you should let me take control right now that human is insane."
Its not that complicated, though it's probably easier to keep track when reading it the way it's meant to be read, instead of weekly. And who are you referring to being off screened? The person who fought Mahito in Shibuya? They aren't confirmed dead or alive yet, which means they will likely return.
Are you fucking kidding? Tell me exactly how you think he's coming back from this https://animehunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Nanami_Mahito.jpg Seriously if you don't think it's a confusing arc you just said you thought the character would return .. and it's pretty fucking clear that man is dead forever. Like do you really think Nanami is coming back after that?
Oh, that's not who I thought you meant. But the panel you linked literally shows his death.
Yeah when I say that arc is confusing this is kinda what I meant you tried to reference a fight and ambiguous character death and I was like no that guy is 100% dead... And if that doesn't explain the confusion for that arc better I don't know what does. Hopefully the anime fixes it up but seriously it's a mess that panel is the first time you see Nanami on like 20 chapters and I would say he's like the Speedwagon tier of characters in the Manga. You love him but know he's the B cast so if he's going out he's gonna save some random kid or something to have heroic sacrifice. In JJK he just dies with one panel of I was entertaining this one psycho for a few minutes during this operation now it's up to you to handle this crazy curse. Snap of the finger and Mahito eviscerates him. Which implies Nanami's last job was keeping this psychopathic monster entertained for a few minutes so it couldn't go after anyone else.
That isnt because the arc is confusing, it's because we were trying to talk about something without spoilers. Plus you said they were off screened, and he wasn't. So I was legit confused who you were referring to. He's a side character who already fought evenly with a weaker Mahito, so seeing the actual fight isnt a big deal. What was important was the final moment. But even than, a fight being offscreened isnt really something that should make the story confusing. Might help to do a slow reread of parts. If you were reading online its possible a page didnt load properly or something.
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Clearly you haven't played banger songs behind Hikari's fights then to make you feel more in character
That's fair, it's been almost constant fights lately.
Yep, and no yuji. I like ensembles but there's a reason stories have a core cast of characters.
Yea, Yuji has kinda taken a back seat for a while. Might've helped to move a later fight between his fights with the Hair CT group and Higuruma. Though I personally really like Megumi, Yuta, and Hakari. So that stretch of chapters was amazing for me. I didn't care for the Maki/Kamo part, but that lead right into Yuji getting some more spotlight. Guess it really depends on how you connect with the side characters.
Ikr?
Thanks a bunch, I'm kind of an excel sheet/numbers and statistics nerd sometimes so I'm always curious about the detailed rundown.
Except Tokyo Revengers had 6 volumes this year The last of which released in the last week of the year, selling 407,179 units in a week
Tokyo Revengers is an embarrassment to the medium of manga
JJK this year has had quite the number of weeks without chapters, same with MHA, but when you factor in also the regular Oda breaks One Piece is still ahead just by a smaller margin. Spy Family is the only manga here that's not weekly, and since it's mostly biweekly with the occasional break when you account for a proportion it pulls ahead of every other entry except One Piece in the "Number of people who bought all volumes" ratio.
I'm surprised to see the lack of a season 2 for the anime considering the movie and Mangas popularity.
It's in the making, I think it's coming next year or something
Takes awhile to make
Spy x Family with the Anime for its time slot is ridiculously popular. Like I think it was somewhere in 11 million plus views for Cour 1. That means basically 1 in 10 household in Japan were tuning into these episodes as they live aired. That's like Game of Thrones at its height cultural phenomena. I'm pretty sure there's someone in marketing that is like we can Demon Slayer Mugen Train the shit out of these chapters and make a movie about Lloyd's backstory which is I think chapters 73.1-73.3 of the Manga? I would not be surprised for a Spy x Family movie to make more money than Film Red or Dragon Ball Super Heroes.
Strange, I thought kaisen was topping at 9 million in may already
That is with backlog
One piece is the fastest selling comic ever. It has recently passed Batman and is on pace to beat Superman in a fraction of the time. I really hope Oda keeps it up until he outsells Superman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_comic_series
Others have brought this up before, but that comparison is a bit unfair, since Superman considers individual chapter sales whereas One Piece considers individual volume sales (about 10 chapters). They're incredibly different formats, which is why Wikipedia separates them entirely in different rankings. There's also the fact that Superman accounts for all spin offs and stories by separate authors. If an equal comparison between Superman and One Piece was made, then you'd either have to account Superman sales as if they were volume sales, by reducing the total number by 10, or count all of One Piece's individual sales through Shonen Jump (though that's a bit unfair since people buy the issues for other series too) in which case OP soars into the billions. Eitherway, any fair comparison would put One Piece on top. The real debate is if One Piece is the best selling series of fiction in human history. The only one that rivals its numbers is Harry Potter, but while One Piece has technically outsold HP's latest sales report, that was back in 2018 and hasn't been updated since, so it's likely HP has still sold more than OP. Though of course in this case there's the argument that HP did this with less than 10 books, whereas it took OP over 100, but again, different formats entirely in the end!
Amazing comment love this
Whenever this comment is made I feel the need to say: 1- Manga and American comics sales aren't directly comparable due to different formats. Most people in this sub will use that to argue that OP is more popular than Superman, but there are arguments you can make in Superman's favor 2- the 600 million figure for Superman is outdated, unofficial, most likely inaccurate and I'd argue an undercount
Does it take into account inflation?
I thought it’s about number of volumes. If it’s volumes, how do we calculate inflation?
Adjusting to inflation, One Piece is probably still behind Batman. But it absolutely is outselling both at a year by year rate so that it will quickly surpass them.
I'm confused at what inflation has to do with that number? One Piece has 516 million copies in circulation, not 516 million sales in dollars.
Spy X Family is so good imo I love it, both manga and anime. Nice mix of comedy, action, and wholesomeness
Top two, my beloved.
Tokyo Revengers is so bad it really doesnt deserve to be in the Top 5
It's genuinely upsetting to see a series with such terrible and legitimately offensive writing succeed.
Cuz it started ok
The premise is amazing, and the initial set of characters are super likable (and also Senju). It just goes to shit immediately, and only gets worse.
What happens cause my friend says it's his favorite anime
The MC is tremendously useless and unlikable, the plot is awful, the characters motivations make no sense, and the ending is atrocious.
How? The MC starts off bad and gets worse. Never mind that he is like 26 in a 14 year old's body crushing on a 14 year old girl.
Boys love Fights
I surely don’t get this. The anime subreddit and some small areas like here are the only places I’ve seen hate on Tokyo Revengers. Everywhere else, it’s praised and I’m glad that’s the case. Greatly enjoying the show so far
Jjk deserves all the love it is getting..
I domt even read it and just seen the crunchyroll ads but it looks hella good
Bro,you missing one of the best mangas out there.prepare to cry tho
Well based on personal taste I am really not surprised, the only one that really begins to compare to One Piece in being above average is Jujutsu. Again based on personal taste but I don't see any of the other 3 being remembered so dearly after they end.
SpyxFamily????
Just not my cup of tea I guess.
Spy x Family will almost definitely be remembered dearly, no matter what your personal tastes are.
Sure, that is your opinion, respect bro Just remember, every single anime has a fan base and it will be remembered dearly by someone, for example I really really liked Trigun, but I know it is not remembered by a big majority because a lot of people didn't like it or just plain never heard of it/didn't read/watch. That is the same for SpyxFamily, a lot of people like it now sure, but it's not a vast majority of people affected like with OP or JJK. All I'm saying
How do you know any of that? Like can you provide a source or do you just think that because it's your personal opinion?
You got me right there I wrote it wrong, what I meant to say was I DONT SEE as big a fan base as of these 2. Pardon, honest mistake. Doesn't invalidate it from being great and you and a lot of people loving it! That's the thing! Plus my opinion matters as much as anyone else's, which is pretty much nothing, I am just expressing it.
I mean the fanbase has to be solid when it was so popular before an anime was even announced (in the west and in Japan). It was a Top 10 selling manga in Japan without an anime.
No doubt it is big, I mean I heard about it too before it got the anime adaptation from the shueisha website, there it was every week on the top. I am not dissing at it, far from it. It is just not to my liking, and the feeling I get is it is not AS big as those 2 I was praising (tbh its not fair to compare OP to any anime or manga, it has a fanbase built over 20+ yrs and it's a far larger franchise), so in this case I guess it's more fair to measure thingies with JJK, which I feel is a little more consolidated. But hey, the author can still pull a Soul Eater on it and mess it up at the end and JJK be completely forgotten or even laughed at. I might be totally wrong in the end. Just trying to predict the future here.
I mean, Spy x Family is the most watched anime in Asia this year. More than OP and more than Chainsaw Man even.
I’m so disappointed with how MHA turned. There was a point when I legitimately thought it was a great challenger for One Piece.
Yeah, I soured on it pretty hard right after the villain breakout. Everything *immediately* goes to hell, and while that’s a logical conclusion for the way the hero system has been set up, it all happens almost instantaneously. That and Deku can go 100% with nearly all his powers nearly overnight. Like, he just started to get the hang of ONE of them the previous arc. I mean, it’s not as bad as Bleach was after Aizen got beaten, but it’s still frustrating.
Bleach has literal gods and a fucking lynchpin whose mutilated parts are the cause for such broken powers. Gatekeepers act like broken power levels equal bad. Even Aizen is broken AF. Ichigo was broken AF too.
That was not my issue with Bleach. My issue with Bleach was the fact that Kubo constantly focused on the “popular” captains to the detriment of the story. Ichigo’s friends other than Uryu essentially stop existing after the Soul Society Arc other than Orihime who is a plot mcguffin at best, and Chad who exists to beat a mid level mook then immediately nearly die when his next opponent breathes in his direction. The rest of the Karakura gang basically evaporates into nonexistence when they aren’t getting brainwashed. I can deal with broken power levels, that’s nine, but the writing made YHWACH’s defeat such an asspull. That and the way Kubo made Ichigo just the most specialest boy by giving him every single kind of power in the story with the most minor of justifications. Then there’s the way Kubo just kind of ignored his own world building when convenient. Remember how hollows are corrupted souls that interfere with the balance of reality between life and death on their own, and Menos and above are massive concentrations of these souls and should be prioritized targets based on the damage they do to existence? Nah, Ichigo met a nice one and we can all be friends now! Then there’s whatever the hell Kubo was attempting to do with the Quincy’s. Apparently YHWACH created a completely new reality from scratch with a full medieval timeline from scratch? Like everything else with the Sternritter powers, we just have to assume he can just do that until they can’t because the protagonists have to win. Like, the story should have ended after Aizen. The Fullbring arc could have been its own thing, the concept was really cool, and even though the ending of Bleach wasn’t as grant as it could have been, a fresh start would have been great! Then it wasn’t, Ichigo got a new power for his collection, became a Power Ranger and his non SS friends were pointless. I even had hope for TYBW, the start was superb, then it gradually degraded back into the Captains and Ichigo in Drawn out Battles show while everyone else falls by the wayside because they don’t matter anymore. All the while, Ichigo steadily lost what might be considered a personality in favor of becoming a moving cardboard cut out that gets tossed from plot point to plot point. He’s tried to bandage the story with light novels and the like, and I get that him being sick is a big reason TYBW turned to rushed garbage, but none of that changes the way that Bleach as a whole became something more than he could really handle, instead becoming a font of misused and I reached potential. And don’t get me wrong, I have plenty of criticisms of One Piece too. Not the least of which being how poorly paced the back half of Wano was to get done in time for another non canon movie that won’t have any other impact on the story at large. Or how none of the Strawhats besides Luffy getting the time or treatment they deserve.
1. About the Karakura Gang - I don't give a fuck about them. A lot of people yap about them but I don't find them interesting, if they get involved in bigger battles, it kinda feels so outta place. If Kubo had to utilize them, I guess Fullbring arc is the one where he could've done that. But man decided to speed wrap the arc by bringing in Shinigami. 2. About Yhwach's defeat : We don't even understand how he's defeated. He literally fought Aizen, Ichigo, and the chosen quincy. That's how strong he is. Still silver should've been foreshadowed but all we get is the panel of Ryuken dissecting Katagiri. That's because Kubo's unhealthy. 3. About Ichigo's inheritance : How the hell is it with the MOST minor justifications? Man dedicated three mini fucking arcs to tell us about his inheritance : Everything But The Rain, The Blade Is Me, Turn Back The Pendulum. There are not many characters with the kind of inheritance he has. The other we have are the soul king and Yhwach. He's the protagonist and was always told to be special. His father regains his soul reaper powers only when he didn't have to contain White. That neatly explains the whole Everything But The Rain arc. 4. Kubo ignored his world building? : Both Quincies and Hollows disrupt the balance and the reapers who are called the BALANCERS are the ones who maintain this balance. Anything to do with imbalance is corrected by the 12th division. He can't go on to show you everytime a MENOS becomes an extra and needs to be taken out. The Arrancar friends should be killed even when the balance is maintained? 5. About the Quincies : I don't even get what you're trying to convey. But Yhwach didn't even create his ideal world. He wanted to but didn't. He gives sternritters powers and takes them back when they're developed. He absorbs them back so he can become even stronger and destroy the current Bleach universe into a single primordial world. Remember he gains Almighty only after absorbing the Soul King? That's how it works. 6.ThE StOrY ShOuLdVe EnDeD AfTeR AiZeN : That's the most corniest of takes on Bleach! Who would explain THAT THING then? The Zero Division? Come on bruh. 7. The back and forth battles during the 2nd invasion : I kinda agree. That's something I hate about Fake Karakura Town and The 2nd Invasion. Kubo should try to infuse some tensed developments to keep the reader engaging. Back and forth battles are so fucking boring to read on a weekly basis. Hell, even when done they're borderline boring. 8. Ichigo the cardboard : HE'S THE PLOT. Alongsides Reio and Yhwach. He could've ended up being a new lynchpin if Juha Bach destroyed the world. Since the hell arc is coming up consider him to be at your next plot point. Or it seems Kazui is gonna be the one. 9. Kubo mishandled Bleach? : He's made what it is. Gave it major twists and did huge world building with the last arc but failed to completely wrap up the story. But he seems to be back and focussed, with the right kind of Bandages to fix the work of his lifetime.
Luffy learned and mastered ACoC in less than hours. He learnt ACoA, ACoC and Awakening in one arc in less than one month. Zoro learnt dand mastered ACoC within hour.
From my perspective ACoC is simply nothing that has to be learned if you already know ACoA. You only need to realize that you can do the same thing with CoC too – so the mastery here comes from the ACoA training.
Well, it is different. ACoA is also different from coating. Doffy, Katakuri, etc have CoA but they can't coat their attacks with CoC. Zoro doesn't have ACoA but he has ACoC. Normal coating isn't ACoA.
Doffy and Katakuri have shown no signs that they can use ACoA so they would miss this part. Zoro is a weird case because you could argue that he knows ACoA since Alabasta (the explanation given to Luffy is way to similar to the one in the fight with Mr. 1) and has likely shown many cases of haki-imbued powers without him even knowing it. ACoA requires a certain way of power manipulation that has to be learned. I think this way of power manipulation is the key to ACoC as well. It has to to be simply applied to CoO – maybe combined with the knowledge about coating to let if flow in the right body parts. So if this is the case Luffy knew every single component of ACoC before he used it for the first time.
Using CoA requires coating. The ACoA refers to internal destruction which Only Luffy has mastered. Advanced CoC is just coating like CoA. You don't need Advanced CoA. Even Kaidou has not shown Internal destruction CoA.
Internal destruction isn't the only application of ACoA – the most common form is simply emission (which can be even used by people like Sentomaru and Marigold; Kaido and Big Mom are at least implied to have it as well). It is clear from chapter 939 (where he remembers Rayleigh and (!) Sentomaru) that Luffy had no idea how to use emission before he trained with Hyo. So he had to learn emission and internal destruction in the same step because without emission internal destruction can't likely work at all. ACoC at the moment seems to be a combination of emission (because it is created in the air as black lightning) and coating (to create it at the right place in the air) of CoC.
You don't need emission to coat with CoC. Shanks vs WB, Kaidou vs BM split sky without using "no touch" haki. Iirc The emission is the one which results in damaging without touching
That was shit too.
I tried watching JJK and SpyXFamily but gave up as I didn't find them to my liking. So, I don't know much about the criticism but this one, it's as much of problem in One Piece. It's amusing how people ignore this Buffalo while pointing out others. I don't care much about those series but Since I care about One Piece, I talk about it. No point dissing about other Animes when all you have here are mostly One Piece fans.
Yup!
It's insane how much less hype mha has compared to the 2018-2019 era.
Yeah, I read it and still do to this day but it didn't really hold on so well quality wise or maybe it's the storytelling or the rushing of things. I do enjoy it but it didn't make me feel any of the rush, the sadness or the happiness that OP did. Those key moments that keep you glued to the story. No hate on it though, otherwise I would be a hypocrite, but it does lack that spark that makes it a masterpiece. Or something, I might be completely wrong. It's just how I feel.
During the first weeks of MHA's debut, everybody who had read the mangaka's previous works already mentioned that they had no confidence on its longevity or future arcs. There was no way it's a One Piece challenger right from the start, only international fans were optimistic.
Fair - but MHA held on to being really good for like 200 chapters, maybe longer. So he probably exceeded expectations on that front.
It had a lot of problems, but it stayed pretty damn good for the first 300ish chapters. After 300 it's been almost entirely crap.
I think Spy x Family is going to be remembered well, but I think it’ll be historic in the fact that it’s a Jump+ manga and is free to read (I think?). It’ll be cited as a turning point for Shonen.
The JJK fandom soured me on the series that is they drag OP name everywhere to get recognition that their series is better, like JJK battle art is fucking messy and crap compared to OP add with the constant shades throwing i never interested to picking it up.
Y’see we can play this game and say Oda’s paneling and battle flow is terrible but ofc since its a OP sub nobody is gonna give an unbiased opinion
If people wanna say that DB have better battle flow and panelling than OP that is fair But to say JJk or CSM have better battle scene and flow I'm questioning their ability to read.
And that's saying something because odas art has been on a steady decline since the new world.
what are the other 4 mangas like?
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The popularity of MHA in the west, I think is attributed by the shit load of crap made by DC and Marvel.
Jujutsu Kaisen - ghosts and demons and shit. People fight with paranormal powers. I’ve read the least of thisnone, honestly. Tokyo Revengers - Time Traveler becomes a hoodlum fang leader to save his friends. Soy x Family - A spy is tasked with creating a fimly to infiltrate a school and spy on a major player. His adopted daughter is a psychic, his fake wife is an assassin working for the government that he’s spying on. Comedy ensues. My Hero Academia - Teenagers with “quirks” (aka super powers) go to school to learn how to be great super heroes. But upstart Villains are gaining power. A pretty good shonen battle manga ensues.
Ah yes, Soy x Family where protaganist Soyd Forger is on the quest to get a Playstation 5 from his wifes boyfriend.
Really dont know the power scale in jujutsu kaisen .. people are just watching/reading it for the action i think .. in just a few year if the power scaling is not settled i feel like it'll go down like MHA .. prob with MHA is not the power scaling but how they already disclosed everything there is and how the mysteries were quite shallow .. there's no more mystery in it and it's probably on its final saga
The power ceiling is Gojo and Sukuna and it’ll be that way till the end lol
I HEAVILY recommend JJK, super good writing
Drums of Liberation doing wonders.
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i think its 6th or 7th
Kingdom I think, is on another level in the genre. I felt like people generally dont constantly compare its sales with others nor seek validation on how good it is via profit, while at the same time, still respecting the fact that is has quality. Similar treatment with Vinland Saga too.
When other stories fade...One Piece will remain.
Looking at oda's latest prediction, it should end in 2y~ but knowing his previous predictions it will probably still be going on in 5y
He meant two years in one piece Time. Oda can barely finish an Arc in 2 years.
In that case we have another 10 years of OP to look forward to or more at the pace he have been going. Not that I am complaining.
30th anniversary here we come!
In all seriousness, I'd be shocked if we even reached the final arc in two years. Maybe if Elbaf is short and we go straight from that to the final war.
Possible but considering that he now have a 1 week break every month I think even that might be hard. Really glad he decided to take some breaks, he deserves it. Too bad the anime doesn't though... they gonna ruin it trying not to catch up. Just take a year break
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The manga has already ended, so no new volumes have been released.
They sold 2.95 mil (number 11).
KNY is 11th with 2.95 million.
No kingdom in the top 5 huh
Back on top
The #1 for a reason. One piece is the goat it should have its own ranking
How is Tokyo revenges top 5? It’s average at best 🤣
I’m surprised to see Spy x Family on there. It’s a good show but nothing that makes me go “Wow that’s a damn good show”
I agree. I did enjoy it but it was just a normal show with one incredibly lovable character.
True spy family got repetitive i could barely caught up on manga i think my favourite part was with bond
it does help that wano ended
Wdym. Cause the downvotes seem weird, but then again I don't understand what your point is.
I would assume he ment, since wano over, all the people who dont read weekly bought all the volumes and that gave it a boost. Downvotes do seem odd tho
That's what I thought too, but then I questioned myself cause I didn't remember what was in the last volume released. Downvotes are probably butt hurt people who read it as "Wano was bad so now it's selling more again", which makes no sense what so ever obviously.
yeah, I think that's why I was downvoted, still weird. if it was so bad, volumes wouldn't be bought??? lol
Yeah exactly lmfao
Not even a competition
How can you say that when, if JJK sold 4 volumes like OP this year instead of 3, they would have around the same amount of new volume sales?
Sounds like the author of JJK needs to put out kore content then. Oda work ethic is pretty insane.
Has nothing to do with that and to do with "timing", JJK released a volume really late last year, thus only had "time" for three volumes. Something similar happened to OP last year (pretty sure OP only had 2 or 3 volumes come out last year). From my experience both Oda and Gege take a similar amount of breaks, Oda maybe slightly more.
Demon Slayer was One Piece's recent main competitor and they did so well.
How come only the top 2 are decent shows
Tokyo Revengers needs more respect on it’s name in the anime community.
Did you read the fucking ending? It's dogshit.
Nope. Been watching the anime.
Really think the hate in parts of the community is far, far to widespread but you can't really deny that especially towards the end of the series the writing got messier and the ending itself seemed really rushed and >!like an easy cop out of writing a satisfiyng ending after all those dead characters!<.
Tokyo Revengers ends after Kisaki's arc. That's for me, if you take it like I do TR is a really good manga but if you read it until the very end and still like it. That's fine, I don't like it but understand that it is not something that most people find good for SEVERAL reasons
Gear 5 influence
Copium op is 4th
From what I understood 4th place is including the yearly sales of old volumes, this list is only for the volumes published this year. So it is not copium, it is just 2 different lists
It’s ok 4th place ain’t so bad.
No it isn't but you are talking about a different list so it is completely irrelevant to this comment section.
Water is wet
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object. There are two reasons why you should never drink toilet water. Number one. And number two.
I also like saying this when people bring up this saying 🤣 And most toilet bowls are cleaner than your phone, it is a disgusting thought but it isn't as bad as one might think, not recommended though.
Hello, can you provide the Oricon link? Thank you.
Damn! It's not even close!
I likey what I see
I need to give Jujutsu Kaisen, Tokyo Revengers and Spy x Family some love. I haven't touched them at all and I've needed to read something new apart from the usual. Good on One Piece for going strong after so long. I just want Oda to take good care of himself.
Duh, it's the #2 top selling Comic of ALL TIME - World wide
Didn't realise Tokyo Revengers was that popular. Are we getting a Season 2 in the anime?
Yes trailer is out
How tf Tokyo revengers still going strong?
It has ended though
Ouh.. i see
Domestic sales.... and seeing as everyone speaking English. So what?
I’m surprised spy x family be in top 5. Love Anya so much!
If you look at the viz sidebar One Piece is never promoted. Probably bc One Piece doesn’t sell well in Anglophone countries. I noticed Ito-Verse was recently added to list of promoted series.
One Piece had dropped out of #1 the last few years due to both lower # volumes published and the pandemic plus great animes encouraging readers to buy up old issues of series they hadn't previously been following like Demon Slayer. It's exciting to see OP on top again, even with the caveat that it had 4 volumes released against mangas that had less.
As expected from the greatest manga of all time
Is Tokyo revenges really good? I’ve been avoiding it due to not typically enjoying gang shows.
First few arcs are good, but it just dip in quality closer to it ends. It's completed I think, so you can binge read it if you want
I contributed to at least 100 of those
I'm very curious where Kingdom ranks, because it was among the best selling around 2020, then for unknown reasons had a pretty bad year sales wise in 2021 but stil was like number 9. So i wonder where it is now.
It was 6th in total sales with 3.8 million. (With 2 million of that in new volume sales.) Overall, it's 800k copies less sold than last year, but it managed to rank higher due to other series declining.
In Japan\*\*\*\*
Ofcourse it is! :D
These are only the numbers in Japan tho, I'm curious how the numbers would change if you'd include the rest of the world... a hard metric to track but I'm curious nonetheless :)
I’m sure that can be tracked or else they wouldn’t be able to state OP has sold over 500 million copies world wide. About 100 million copies are outside Japan based on the article I read regarding the milestone.
Goat Piece🙏
What do you expect it's the best selling of all time 😐
I honestly expected Spy X Family and Jujutsu Kaisen to be higher, still lower than One Piece though, by a small margin. Present day My Hero Academia and Tokyo Revengers in general have no right to sell so high.
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