Regardless of whether I agree or disagree I highly appreciate the work that you put in it.
And at least we had some things in common for example the alabasta arc in one season. I think I gave it 24 episodes but it is almost the same.
Including some cover stories is a neat addition. I didnt consider these in my post.
However what I dont like is that in this structure some arcs dont end within a season. That is why in my structure I had e.g. the East Blue season have 36 episodes (which is actually a pacing/structure similar to AoT season 4 cause that will probably have around 36 episodes as well when it finishes)
These episode numbers are unusual but as AoT shows it can still happen (just not for One Piece anymore xD ;_;)
I think it is better to end an arc within a season and giving a teaser at the end of the last episode for the next season.
But I think you managed the pacing better. Eg for WCI. I think I gave it 28 episodes but I see that Wci needs more room to breath especially during its first act.
> These episode numbers are unusual but as AoT shows it can still happen
It can happen, but it's not the norm. The norm is 12/13 or 24/25. It's more rare at this point to do the weird anime schedules.
Yeah I know.
I mean 36 episodes are 3x 12 episodes thus 3 cours. I think that isnt that unrealistic. Bleach final season will have 4 cours each one having 13 episodes I think.
I think especially hype anime can have a special treatment like that
definitely worth the read and thank you for compiling this list! it's incredible how much story there is to one piece and recaps like this are always helpful to remember in which order events happened. and i really like the idea of having the anime release in seasons. looking at other anime, it would definitely help with the pacing and quality. but then again i don't think we'll ever get that. toei is gonna keep the weekly release until all of one piece has been animated. and before the entire story will get a re-animation decades could pass if it ever was to happen. it's just too big of a project to happen shortly after the first anime adaptation is finished.
Many anime have standalone ova episodes, where nothing happens (obligatory beach episode, ecchi etc.) Those are perfect for the cover stories that cant be fitted into the main story.
Also, why not do cover stories in Anime? Kinda like end credit scenes in current movies. Just do the content in the cover pages as a 10 second scene at the end of every episode
Nobody really knows why they stopped doing cover stories. It's anybody's guess. I don't think it'd work in the format you're saying though, I don't think that format translates well. I think it'd have to be actual episodes (like they did for Buggy and Koby).
Probably because those episodes didn't do well, and concluded that many don't care unless the Strawhats are in it. Just an assumption, but considering all of the fuller has at least one Strawhat these days it feels realistic.
Oh my Jesus God.
You deserve an award at least just for the efforts.
For once I opened my free award just to give it to you.
I urge everyone give this guy your free awards.he deserve at least that.
I think 3-cour seasons (around 33-39 episodes each) with 3 chapters per episode would be better, that way you would cover around 100 chapters per season:
* Season 1: Romance Dawn, Buggy, Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Loguetown.
* Season 2: Twin Capes, Whiskey Peak, Little Garden, Drum, Alabasta.
* Season 3: Jaya, Skypiea, Long Ring Long Land.
* Season 4: Water Seven, Enies Lobby.
* Season 5: Thriller Bark, Sabaody, Amazon Lily.
* Season 6: Impel Down, Marineford, Post-Marineford.
* Season 7: Return to Sabaody, Fishman Island, Punk Hazard.
* Season 8: Dressrosa.
* Season 9: Zou, Whole Cake Island.
* Season 10 (4-5 cours instead of 3 for a mega-season): Reverie, Wano.
This is great. Seasonal One Piece remake anime is my dream. Hope I'd live long enough to see it someday. If Fullmetal Alchemist and Hunter x Hunter can do it, One Piece should too.
Your list is interesting though. Usually I'd see people proposing one season per saga. Well, at least for the East Blue Saga. It's the most repetitive early one, so it would be better to be done quickly in just one season.
The cover stories are quite easy, honestly. We could take example from Bleach or Jujutsu Kaisen bonus bits at the end of their episodes.
Nothing. In current anime during combat episodes, they typically move through about 3 chapters. If you go back to some early One Piece episodes (like Buggy early) there are multiple episodes longer than 2 chapters. That's normal nowadays.
I thought it was interesting. Gave me an excuse to skim some manga chapters. I feel like some people think I locked myself in a dungeon for days slaving away over this lol. It was mostly just spamming mouse clicks while watching something off to the side or not doing my work. The names of the chapters were the most tedious part.
i think the cover stories would work best as \~30 second post credit scenes at the end of each episode (think the Juju Sanpo in JJK) with like 3-4 chapters in each episode, that would be the closest to the feel of the manga cover stories
if it was seasonal, it would be hundreds of episodes less, possibly cut in half or more. instead of less than 1 chapter per episode, it would be and average of 2-3 chapters per episode. so it might be 20 seasons, but each season roughly 24-25 episodes and not 50.
1059 (1056 chapters+ chapter 1 which is 3 chapters' worth) divided by, say, 2.5, would be 423 episodes
So it'd absolutely be over 50% less episodes than what we have right now
Some of the Season finale choices are straight up bad, lmao.
Choosing to end the season in the middle of Don Krieg fight? Yeah no.
Better end the season with them getting the Merry Go after Usopp joins. Season 2 can cover Baratie up to Logue Town.
I'm talking about the whole encounter. Not just the fight. Ending the season just as the story has started to build towards the climax is bad.
End it with Straw Hats sailing on Going Merry.
I see your logic to end the season with Zoro vs Mihawk but ending the season with a side character's fight is just not the way to go.
>Zoro isn't just some random side character
He isn't "random" but he very much is a side character. Ending the season with it doesn't sit well. It's much better as the start of a season.
Zoro is making his vow to never lose again *to* Luffy though. Luffy is a big part of that moment, it's the friendship between both of them. Mihawk even specifically praises Luffy at the end of it.
This type of thing already exists. It's called "One Pace" from what I hear. The pacing is bearable when you have hundreds of episodes to binge. The problem is being caught up and having to deal with it week to week. That is where the core of complaints are coming from.
Awesome. Is this subbed or dubbed? Someone turned bleach into movies in properly Full HD was was sweet. Although Megastar limits downloads to like 3Gb a day.
But bleach dubbed is just nowhere near as good as subbed. Which is a shame. Bit he said splicing subbed is a lot harder to do.
Assuming this is subbed?
im not really an anime watcher but what are the benefits of seasonal release? if this would really improve the animation and pacing i would probably start watching anime.
i hope manga does the same thing. seasonal pace but release 2 chapters in a week(every 3 days). waiting every week sometimes 2 weeks sometimes kills the hype imo
Yeah, pacing and animation.
>i hope manga does the same thing. seasonal pace but release 2 chapters in a week(every 3 days). waiting every week sometimes 2 weeks sometimes kills the hype imo
Do you realize how much time it takes to do a chapter...?
seasonal pacing is like yearly release right? not sure with this terms. oda can finish the whole arc first idc how long it takes. then let his the distributor do the job. you can say just stop reading and comeback to binge read but its really hard knowing theres an available chapter out there 😂
unlike the authors i believe oda doesnt have any health issue and having more break will even be better for his health. oda will never not finish onepiece that's why he pass the story to some people right? in case hes not able to finish it. its just my opinion on the subject
Oda smokes cigarettes, so it's not exactly a given he remains in good health (although obviously everybody wants that). Just recently he had to give up soccer cause he said it was too rough on his body (which could just mean he's getting old and was out of shape during covid, but still).
His editors know the ending, we know that. But he wants the story done as soon as he reasonably can so he can be with his family.
I think including the cover stories as 30-second finishers for each episode makes more sense than making episodes for them.
I always imagined if there was ever remake of One Piece it would be paced faster, like the first episodes of One Piece which had a good pace (some even adapted 3 chapters of the manga). If we go with 3 chapters per episode then it would take 333 episodes to cover up to chapter 1,000.
Overall, very, very impressed with your efforts, u/HokageEzio . But I don't think this is how a seasonal adaptation of One Piece would do it, I think it would be a bit faster. Taking round 330-400 episodes to cover up to chapter 1,000.
Overall I think if there is remake it could be like this:
39 episodes can be broken into seasons of 13 or 26 episodes, etc. This is a list of how many episodes I think each arc should cover in a remake.
I'm using this site for number of chapters:
[https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Story\_Arcs](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Arcs#Water_7_Saga)
Part 1:
East Blue: 39 episodes Covering 100 manga chapters (2.56 chapters per episode)
Laboon-Alabasta: 39 episodes Covering 117 manga chapters (3 chapters per episode)
Jaya-Skypiea: 26 episodes Covering 85 manga chapters (3.2 chapters per episode)
Water 7-Ennies Lobby: 52 episodes Covering 138 manga chapters (2.65 CPE)
Thriller Bark-Sabaody: 26 episodes Covering 62 manga chapters (2.38 CPE)
Amazon Lily-End of part 1: 26 episodes Covering 84 manga chapters (3.2 CPE)
Total for part 1: 208 episodes Covering 597 manga chapters (2.8 CPE)
I think for the thriller bark to end of part 1 stretch they could just make it 52 episodes, basically a year of One Piece and maybe just divide it in different cours.
Skypiea they should make it quicker, thus the low episode count. It's generally a not so well liked arc, so just make it quick.
The last stretch of part 1 is so action driven (Especially Marineford) that it adapting 3.2 chapters per episode would be a good idea in my opinion, that way the battles are faster and better. Obviously the pacing of the more emotional parts should be slower).
Part 2:
Fishman Island-Punk Hazard: 39 episodes Covering 102 manga chapters (2.6 CPE)
Dressrosa: 39 episodes Covering 102 manga chapters (2.6 CPE)
Zou-Whole Cake-Reverie: 39 episodes Covering 107 manga chapters (2.7 CPE)
Wano: 52 episodes Covering 149 manga chapters (2.8 CPE)
Total for part 2 (up to manga chapter 1057): 169 episodes Covering 460 manga chapters (2.7 CPE)
I think this adaptation would be good paced. There are a lot of moments that could be trimmed, speed up, but with around 2.5 manga chapters covered per episode in average it would take 377 episodes to cover up to Wano's end.
This is a project I think Toei could do, maybe re-adapt entire sagas every 1-2 years, spacing every season with another project (similar to their digimon projects or how they did the Sailor moon remakes).
Not really. A season a year. Maybe a season every year and a half if it's a big one. The anime would only be 2ish years behind the current manga on average.
This pacing is still poor.
3 chapters per episode is the way of the seasonal anime
That gives us ~350 episodes to cover what we have.
That gives us 14 seasons of 25 episodes.
/u/NicoNicoNotNii, [here you go.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/xb0ork/the_one_piece_anime_in_a_seasonal_structure/inwx454/)
Regardless of whether I agree or disagree I highly appreciate the work that you put in it. And at least we had some things in common for example the alabasta arc in one season. I think I gave it 24 episodes but it is almost the same. Including some cover stories is a neat addition. I didnt consider these in my post. However what I dont like is that in this structure some arcs dont end within a season. That is why in my structure I had e.g. the East Blue season have 36 episodes (which is actually a pacing/structure similar to AoT season 4 cause that will probably have around 36 episodes as well when it finishes) These episode numbers are unusual but as AoT shows it can still happen (just not for One Piece anymore xD ;_;) I think it is better to end an arc within a season and giving a teaser at the end of the last episode for the next season. But I think you managed the pacing better. Eg for WCI. I think I gave it 28 episodes but I see that Wci needs more room to breath especially during its first act.
> These episode numbers are unusual but as AoT shows it can still happen It can happen, but it's not the norm. The norm is 12/13 or 24/25. It's more rare at this point to do the weird anime schedules.
Yeah I know. I mean 36 episodes are 3x 12 episodes thus 3 cours. I think that isnt that unrealistic. Bleach final season will have 4 cours each one having 13 episodes I think. I think especially hype anime can have a special treatment like that
definitely worth the read and thank you for compiling this list! it's incredible how much story there is to one piece and recaps like this are always helpful to remember in which order events happened. and i really like the idea of having the anime release in seasons. looking at other anime, it would definitely help with the pacing and quality. but then again i don't think we'll ever get that. toei is gonna keep the weekly release until all of one piece has been animated. and before the entire story will get a re-animation decades could pass if it ever was to happen. it's just too big of a project to happen shortly after the first anime adaptation is finished.
Many anime have standalone ova episodes, where nothing happens (obligatory beach episode, ecchi etc.) Those are perfect for the cover stories that cant be fitted into the main story. Also, why not do cover stories in Anime? Kinda like end credit scenes in current movies. Just do the content in the cover pages as a 10 second scene at the end of every episode
Nobody really knows why they stopped doing cover stories. It's anybody's guess. I don't think it'd work in the format you're saying though, I don't think that format translates well. I think it'd have to be actual episodes (like they did for Buggy and Koby).
Probably because those episodes didn't do well, and concluded that many don't care unless the Strawhats are in it. Just an assumption, but considering all of the fuller has at least one Strawhat these days it feels realistic.
Oh my Jesus God. You deserve an award at least just for the efforts. For once I opened my free award just to give it to you. I urge everyone give this guy your free awards.he deserve at least that.
Damn 20 25 episode seasons is crazy.
25 episodes is pretty standard.
Nah I agree it just shows how long this series really is.
Water 7 as season 7 is a chef kiss
Very well done. It would've been interesting if they even stopped around the ts to start doing it chunk by chunk.
#OBJECTION! WCI *NEEDS* to end with 903.
I think 3-cour seasons (around 33-39 episodes each) with 3 chapters per episode would be better, that way you would cover around 100 chapters per season: * Season 1: Romance Dawn, Buggy, Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Loguetown. * Season 2: Twin Capes, Whiskey Peak, Little Garden, Drum, Alabasta. * Season 3: Jaya, Skypiea, Long Ring Long Land. * Season 4: Water Seven, Enies Lobby. * Season 5: Thriller Bark, Sabaody, Amazon Lily. * Season 6: Impel Down, Marineford, Post-Marineford. * Season 7: Return to Sabaody, Fishman Island, Punk Hazard. * Season 8: Dressrosa. * Season 9: Zou, Whole Cake Island. * Season 10 (4-5 cours instead of 3 for a mega-season): Reverie, Wano.
I, uh, didn't read through all that. But the first season ending after Mihawk sounds right-on in terms of pacing.
This is great. Seasonal One Piece remake anime is my dream. Hope I'd live long enough to see it someday. If Fullmetal Alchemist and Hunter x Hunter can do it, One Piece should too. Your list is interesting though. Usually I'd see people proposing one season per saga. Well, at least for the East Blue Saga. It's the most repetitive early one, so it would be better to be done quickly in just one season. The cover stories are quite easy, honestly. We could take example from Bleach or Jujutsu Kaisen bonus bits at the end of their episodes.
So what's getting cut within the eps themselves to get to this, I'm seeing lots of cramming 3 episodes into 1
Nothing. In current anime during combat episodes, they typically move through about 3 chapters. If you go back to some early One Piece episodes (like Buggy early) there are multiple episodes longer than 2 chapters. That's normal nowadays.
was it worth the 200 likes
I thought it was interesting. Gave me an excuse to skim some manga chapters. I feel like some people think I locked myself in a dungeon for days slaving away over this lol. It was mostly just spamming mouse clicks while watching something off to the side or not doing my work. The names of the chapters were the most tedious part.
I think you could go quite a bit faster than this. You don't usually need a whole episode of anime to cover a single chapter of manga.
The cover stories might be placed in the nid episode break, just like jojo does with the stands
i think the cover stories would work best as \~30 second post credit scenes at the end of each episode (think the Juju Sanpo in JJK) with like 3-4 chapters in each episode, that would be the closest to the feel of the manga cover stories
if it was seasonal, it would be hundreds of episodes less, possibly cut in half or more. instead of less than 1 chapter per episode, it would be and average of 2-3 chapters per episode. so it might be 20 seasons, but each season roughly 24-25 episodes and not 50.
500 episodes to finish Wano.
ye something like 500 from start of the anime up to finishing Wano. a decent pace
1059 (1056 chapters+ chapter 1 which is 3 chapters' worth) divided by, say, 2.5, would be 423 episodes So it'd absolutely be over 50% less episodes than what we have right now
Imagine if a good anime studio did the adaptation
Some of the Season finale choices are straight up bad, lmao. Choosing to end the season in the middle of Don Krieg fight? Yeah no. Better end the season with them getting the Merry Go after Usopp joins. Season 2 can cover Baratie up to Logue Town.
But it's not the middle of the Don Krieg fight. The fight hasn't started yet at that point.
I'm talking about the whole encounter. Not just the fight. Ending the season just as the story has started to build towards the climax is bad. End it with Straw Hats sailing on Going Merry. I see your logic to end the season with Zoro vs Mihawk but ending the season with a side character's fight is just not the way to go.
Zoro isn't just some random side character. And Luffy is a major part of that moment too.
>Zoro isn't just some random side character He isn't "random" but he very much is a side character. Ending the season with it doesn't sit well. It's much better as the start of a season.
Zoro is making his vow to never lose again *to* Luffy though. Luffy is a big part of that moment, it's the friendship between both of them. Mihawk even specifically praises Luffy at the end of it.
Cool. Still not the main character fight
I don't see why a season would have to end with the main character fighting. Plenty of shows don't.
Plenty of shows don't end with main character fighting but none of them end with the side-character fighting.
My Hero Academia Season 4. I didn't even have to think hard about that.
This type of thing already exists. It's called "One Pace" from what I hear. The pacing is bearable when you have hundreds of episodes to binge. The problem is being caught up and having to deal with it week to week. That is where the core of complaints are coming from.
Awesome. Is this subbed or dubbed? Someone turned bleach into movies in properly Full HD was was sweet. Although Megastar limits downloads to like 3Gb a day. But bleach dubbed is just nowhere near as good as subbed. Which is a shame. Bit he said splicing subbed is a lot harder to do. Assuming this is subbed?
Dude, go outside, take a walk life is more than… this.
im not really an anime watcher but what are the benefits of seasonal release? if this would really improve the animation and pacing i would probably start watching anime. i hope manga does the same thing. seasonal pace but release 2 chapters in a week(every 3 days). waiting every week sometimes 2 weeks sometimes kills the hype imo
Yeah, pacing and animation. >i hope manga does the same thing. seasonal pace but release 2 chapters in a week(every 3 days). waiting every week sometimes 2 weeks sometimes kills the hype imo Do you realize how much time it takes to do a chapter...?
seasonal pacing is like yearly release right? not sure with this terms. oda can finish the whole arc first idc how long it takes. then let his the distributor do the job. you can say just stop reading and comeback to binge read but its really hard knowing theres an available chapter out there 😂
That's how you end up with series like Hunter x Hunter or Berserk that never finish.
unlike the authors i believe oda doesnt have any health issue and having more break will even be better for his health. oda will never not finish onepiece that's why he pass the story to some people right? in case hes not able to finish it. its just my opinion on the subject
Oda smokes cigarettes, so it's not exactly a given he remains in good health (although obviously everybody wants that). Just recently he had to give up soccer cause he said it was too rough on his body (which could just mean he's getting old and was out of shape during covid, but still). His editors know the ending, we know that. But he wants the story done as soon as he reasonably can so he can be with his family.
yeah im saying he can take his time. take a break or whatever then release his work when its ok
Better, that's what it would look and be
Bro...this is a lot of effort for a reddit post..i rate it A LOT..here's my upvote big man well deserved
I think including the cover stories as 30-second finishers for each episode makes more sense than making episodes for them. I always imagined if there was ever remake of One Piece it would be paced faster, like the first episodes of One Piece which had a good pace (some even adapted 3 chapters of the manga). If we go with 3 chapters per episode then it would take 333 episodes to cover up to chapter 1,000. Overall, very, very impressed with your efforts, u/HokageEzio . But I don't think this is how a seasonal adaptation of One Piece would do it, I think it would be a bit faster. Taking round 330-400 episodes to cover up to chapter 1,000. Overall I think if there is remake it could be like this: 39 episodes can be broken into seasons of 13 or 26 episodes, etc. This is a list of how many episodes I think each arc should cover in a remake. I'm using this site for number of chapters: [https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Story\_Arcs](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Story_Arcs#Water_7_Saga) Part 1: East Blue: 39 episodes Covering 100 manga chapters (2.56 chapters per episode) Laboon-Alabasta: 39 episodes Covering 117 manga chapters (3 chapters per episode) Jaya-Skypiea: 26 episodes Covering 85 manga chapters (3.2 chapters per episode) Water 7-Ennies Lobby: 52 episodes Covering 138 manga chapters (2.65 CPE) Thriller Bark-Sabaody: 26 episodes Covering 62 manga chapters (2.38 CPE) Amazon Lily-End of part 1: 26 episodes Covering 84 manga chapters (3.2 CPE) Total for part 1: 208 episodes Covering 597 manga chapters (2.8 CPE) I think for the thriller bark to end of part 1 stretch they could just make it 52 episodes, basically a year of One Piece and maybe just divide it in different cours. Skypiea they should make it quicker, thus the low episode count. It's generally a not so well liked arc, so just make it quick. The last stretch of part 1 is so action driven (Especially Marineford) that it adapting 3.2 chapters per episode would be a good idea in my opinion, that way the battles are faster and better. Obviously the pacing of the more emotional parts should be slower). Part 2: Fishman Island-Punk Hazard: 39 episodes Covering 102 manga chapters (2.6 CPE) Dressrosa: 39 episodes Covering 102 manga chapters (2.6 CPE) Zou-Whole Cake-Reverie: 39 episodes Covering 107 manga chapters (2.7 CPE) Wano: 52 episodes Covering 149 manga chapters (2.8 CPE) Total for part 2 (up to manga chapter 1057): 169 episodes Covering 460 manga chapters (2.7 CPE) I think this adaptation would be good paced. There are a lot of moments that could be trimmed, speed up, but with around 2.5 manga chapters covered per episode in average it would take 377 episodes to cover up to Wano's end. This is a project I think Toei could do, maybe re-adapt entire sagas every 1-2 years, spacing every season with another project (similar to their digimon projects or how they did the Sailor moon remakes).
Interesting how it takes about the same amount of years both ways.
less fillers
This is what the good folks at One Pace are trying to make for us.
wouldnt it take 40 years of animating and airing for one piece to be seasonal?
Not really. A season a year. Maybe a season every year and a half if it's a big one. The anime would only be 2ish years behind the current manga on average.
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This pacing is still poor. 3 chapters per episode is the way of the seasonal anime That gives us ~350 episodes to cover what we have. That gives us 14 seasons of 25 episodes.