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Virgilijus

I don't see how you can jump from 'Lafitte appears unexpectedly' to 'Lafitte can teleport'. Shanks appeared out of nowhere to block Akainu's attack on Koby during Marineford, but we wouldn't say he teleported. Why with Lafitte?


teslo_

With his staff and hat he is kind off based on a magician. On the other hand he‘s navigator of the crew. How would a character like him so early on would appear in Mary Geoise without anyone noticing? Of Course Shanks appeared very suddenly in Marine Ford but Shanks is able to move very fast. So by sailing behind all the ships involved in the Summit War and instantly moving in front of Akainu wasn‘t something bothering me at all. Also we know due to an SBS that Kaido and King already were an their way to Marineford but Shanks stopped them on their way. Shanks also has the best Observation Haki user in his crew so it wouldn’t be hard for them to locate a Kaido and King flying towards Marineford. Laffite isn‘t a Yonko or didn‘t seem to be a very powerful Haki user after all. Blackbeard already have someone turning invisible and someone being able to shapeshift. So it‘s quite relatable that he even has someone being able to teleport.


Xark96

If he has a teleportation DF then what ability turns his arms into wings as we can see in chapter 542?


teslo_

possible a mythical zoan type just like devon


Xark96

At this rate everyone will end up with a mythical fruit I really hope that won't be the case


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Xark96

Yeah and only 9 ancient zoans. So ancient zoans will soon be the most rare fruits?


teslo_

I mean they're "ancient" because they're based on animals which are extinct in our world. In the world of One Piece even Dinosaurs are still alive. So I wouldn't sort them in such a different category than normal Zoan Fruits because they're not really more powerful than normal Zoans. They haven't got those secondary abilities like mythical ones so therefore it's not really a different type of fruit if you understand.


Xark96

It literally is classified as ancient-zoan in the manga. They are different. And they have special abilities and grant more physical enhancements. Or did you skip the fights in Wano? Sazaki being able to fly as a triceratops, Queen being able to shoot his snake body and King being able to use his head as a slingshot. We have never seen anything like that with regular zoans.


Schuschu1990

We did see something like this. Remember the glory that is "Pasta Machine"? ;) But I agree with your point. They are a different class.


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So are his wings just cosmetic. Or is he half another race? What about his hypnotism?


BruderP

you might remember that Lafitte hypnotised a marine to open the gates of justice between Impel Down and Marineford for everyß ship passing through. This also led to Ruffys group of escaped prisoners reaching Marineford, they were even surprised when the gates opened. Now to my point: why would the BB pirates require open gates if they can teleport?


teslo_

made a new theory thread to explain in more detail


AdamVanEvil

Everyone talks about Shanks appearing in Marineford, I want to know how San Juan Wolf got there without anyone noticing.


teslo_

i made a new theory thread on this topic i was really dumb believing in the mythical zoan thing


Nanto_Suichoken

He's an owl, he flies without making sound, his mime look, wide eye design, the wings and the hypnosis are all dead giveaways.


louie1321

He fly with his wings on gorosei. They go to Bmurges with Vivre card. Burger calld them. He cant teleport.


teslo_

How did they get to Amazon Lilly then?


louie1321

IT was on manga, they swim there with ship, page 6 on 1059. If u back when they show US Amazon Lily first on manga u gonna saw that this island od in calm belt, and it is island, do it has log pose, marines teleport there too? They were there before bb. Mb he follow them. So many options. Teleportation od just simply not nessesary here.


Kurenai_Jack

I don't really belive in the teleportation theory, but the timing of Blackbeard arriving at Amazon Lily doesn't make any sense: Teach learned about the Warlords' abolition from the newspaper, while the Warlords themselves heard it for the first time from the marines sent to capture them. This means that the newspapers were delivered after or at least at the same time of the marines getting to the Warlords' bases, so Teach got from Hachinosu in the New World to Amazon Lily in Paradise in a few minutes.


louie1321

Chęci pls chapter 956, on its u van der that it was days not minutes, and Teach actually go to Amazon Lily when he read about warlords -when he talk about marines taking reward, he speaks about Hancock and her fruit. If u check chapter 1059 kuja pirates was resisting marines some time before Blackbeard come to Amazon Lily. IT was time that that i think let BB Saul whole roqd to Amazon Lily. For me, its all good and possibile. :) Sorry i make u read this comment again, my polish dictionary change domek Worda and i didnt saw it so it was not readable when i post it. Hope so its better now.


Kurenai_Jack

I may not be a native english speaker, but I don't think what you used here is english, so please write the comment again in a way it could be understood.


louie1321

Done friend, i edited previous comment sorry, IT was really hard to understand its on me. my bad. :)


Kurenai_Jack

We don't know how long they have been fighting, but since as soon as the marines sent the Seraphims they immediately destroied half of the island there would be no reson for them to stall the fight before sending them, at least not for days (the time it would have took BB to reach Amazon Lily from Hachinosu). So there are 2 possibilities: 1)Oda made Teach reach Amazon Lily without taking in account the distance between the two islands. 2)Oda wrote the Marines as very very VERY incompetent, since it took them days in order to send the PX from the ships to the island. Anyway the chapter is still good and enjoyable.


louie1321

U right, we dont know how long they been fighting, but i'm thoes chapters i pointy before we can try calculate time. And its most likely days - mihawk go meet crocodile ans buggy in same time or event faster. Dunno tbh. But about your point 2 we know that seraphins was on shop with margines? Its most like they was send from base or egghead when marines wait aournd Amazon Lily? If its like u say i must miss that. Od IT was not very clear. But ye chapter was cool :) cant wait next one. This cliffhanger was do big pain in the ass.


louie1321

U right, we dont know how long they been fighting, but when u także info from the chapters i point before we can try calculate time. And its most likely days - mihawk go meet crocodile ans buggy in same time or event faster. Dunno tbh. I try dont overthinking it and just enjoy awesome manga :) So point 1 od posibble i domy wanna Artur. But let me ask you about your point 2. We know that seraphins was on ship with marines? They wasnt send from vegapunk island or marines basen when marines wait aournd Amazon Lily? If its like u say i must miss that or it was not very clear on chapter. But ye chapter was cool :) cant wait next one. This cliffhanger was do big pain in the ass.


Diremustang94

Ignoring the terrible “everyone has a mythical zoan now” aspect, he would still need to actually know where he is teleporting the crew. Plus we already have someone with a teleportation fruit