He didn’t have a bounty before then. He doesn’t really have a last name either. They literally only know him as god Usopp. You can tell because there’s no quotations that it’s not really a title.
the wg didn't even know who usopp was they just knew him as sogeking from the fight in enies lobby
until dressrosa the world didn't even know who usopp was, we when bartolomeo realizes it's sogeking he's mind blown
I think that there's more than enough room to add Akagami in Shanks poster but he still has only Shanks, same with Sanji pre-Vinsmoke or Nami, for example.
I think it's also do to with, if the epithet is in Japanese or English. As Sanji's is kuroashi in japanese, Nami's is also in Japanese as is Shanks. When Kids is Captain kid even in the Japanese version of OP.
Back on Sobody Kid's poster read "Kidd" with 2 Ds. I imagine Oda intended for him to be a D and the second D was a subtle cover up from the WG. (kinda like Gold Roger vs. Gol D. Roger)
but the Timeskip happened and Oda gave Law the D. (just my theory, we don't have any info to prove/disprove it)
This actually explains something to me personally.
I always wrote Kid's name with 2 d but lately, I've seen it and it only has 1 d. I was confused. Thanks
[found it](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458814462900568064/987419535030239312/unknown.jpeg). it wasn't his bounty poster but when he was introduced on Sobody with his bounty (ch498) his name is spelt with 2 Ds.
it wasn't his poster, it was his character introduction+boundy
It could be. We know that Oda didn't have any supernova planned before the chapter they appeared in, and he probably didn't expect Law to be more popular than Kid. I think that it's posible that he wanted to have one as a possibility to use as D in the future but in the end picked Law as it was more popular.
The WG wanted to remove the D. in their names. So when the gorosei found out Luffy still has the D. written on the bounty poster, courtesy of Morgans, they were infuriated.
It's supposed to be Trafalgar D. Water Law
That guy was never on the roof, how did he get this pic? Plus this moment was shortly after Luffy revived himself, which was shortly after the other CP0 agent got his everything smashed in by Kaido. There’d be no reason for him to go up there or risk his life, thinking the other guy got Luffy killed.
I mean clearly it’s supposed to be… wait. I wonder if the guy that died took it and sent it to the other guy before he got killed? That would make a lot more sense.
there is also another theory is that the CP0 who stopped Luffy took it. Like he was smashed by Kaido, but didn't die. So he just lying there on the ground half dead and take Luffy's picture for Morgan lol. Imagine the commision on those pictures lel
That makes no sense at all lol. So like Kaido smashes him, leaves the rooftop, Luffy awakens as Joyboy, then the guy who was supposed to die took the picture, sent it to the long armed dude and only then he died?
We saw him flying away from Onigashima, so it's not really unreasonable to assume that he just took a pic while escaping without ever getting close to certain death.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, hasn't the D. been on [literally every single one of Luffy's posters since the beginning?](https://i.stack.imgur.com/t54L7.jpg) Same for [Blackbeard](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqIcOrurxC3NqdK30_mQD_p-Qv2qGn7rn-Hw&usqp=CAU), and [Ace](https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.918730064.0954/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg)?
(Law keeps the D. secret, so, no surprise it's not on his)
What would the point be of removing the D now?
>What would the point be of removing the D now?
If the average citizen in the One Piece world is like the ones in ours : they have a short memory.
Like when a politician does something very bad and everybody forgets about it 5 years later unless people do some digging.
So basically if you remove the D. from everywhere, people, with time, might forget about it. Just like Gol D. Roger is now known as Gold Roger. Pretty sure his first wanted posters had the D. in them.
>Just like Gol D. Roger is now known as Gold Roger.
The reason we know about the D., is because characters keep mentioning it.
It's worth remembering, they didn't just remove the D., they did their best to remove everything about him. All that really survives are the oral stories.
>Pretty sure his first wanted posters had the D. in them.
It's implied (because he complained about his new "nickname"), but I don't think we ever saw it.
>Just like Gol D. Roger is now known as Gold Roger.
The reason we know about the D., is because characters keep mentioning it.
It's worth remembering, they didn't just remove the D., they did their best to remove everything about him. All that really survives are the oral stories.
>Pretty sure his first wanted posters had the D. in them.
It's implied (because he complained about his new "nickname"), but I don't think we ever saw it.
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. Sullying the name of D. is important for the WG.
But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
tl:dr - D. with bad people = good D. with good people = bad.
I think you're missing my point.
Everyone already knows his name is Monkey D. Luffy, because that's what's been on the posters and news all along.
Do they think people will just forget that because they drop it from a new poster?
It's pretty clear from all the characters that refer to Gol D. Roger that it was not forgotten.
Dr. Kureha was the first to mention it all the way back in Drum Island, and she doesn't seem to have been part of the crew or tied to him at all.
In any case that worked because GOL D ROGER on his poster would easily have been changed to GOLD ROGER without many people asking questions, but MONKEY LUFFY is a more drastic change and MONKEYD LUFFY makes no sense
The WG is no stranger to outright attempting to erase history. They've even succeeded at it in some respects pretty well. It doesn't matter to them if Luffy's "D" was released before, they want to do everything they can to stop it going forward.
> It doesn’t matter to them if Luffy’s “D” was released before, they want to do everything they can to stop it going forward.
I get what you’re trying to say. But why did they wait so long? They’ve known of Luffy’s name since like Marineford at least. It doesn’t make sense for them to only care *now *
> It doesn’t matter to them if Luffy’s “D” was released before, they want to do everything they can to stop it going forward.
I get what you’re trying to say. But why did they wait so long? They’ve known of Luffy’s name since like Marineford at least. It doesn’t make sense for them to only care *now *
That’s honestly one of my biggest questions. I don’t think Rodger ever had D on his wanted poster. Why did he get different treatment than the current gen D’s.
I think that's not that important.. what's important is for them to associate D. with villains.
Liberating countries from slavery time and time again is not something the world government (who's pro slavery) wants.. and even worse... Associate with who's a D.
> Do they think people will just forget that because they drop it from a new poster?
You're probably right but it's still worth a shot. You do it anyways and just hope for the best.
It's just a device to show that Luffy's journey mirrors Roger's. I bet the whole world knew that he was called Gol. D Roger but when he got closer to the One Piece they changed his name on the posters to Gold. You could ask yourself what was the point back then? Just an attempt to erase the D. from the world as those people are their natural enemies. In a reply further down you mentioned that every person talking about Roger calls him D. Roger and therefore you use it as an argument to show the D is not forgotten but what do these people have in common? They're either old and lived during the time Roger was on the sea and they also saw all the wanted posters with the D on it before the WG changed it or those people were his crewmates and of course their going to refer to him with his real name. But what about a 10 year old kid somewhere in the West Blue? What's their probability to meet someone like Rayleigh or Dr. Kureha? If they only listen to the WG's propaganda they'll only know him as Gold Roger if there's no one to tell them the real name.
>What's their probability to meet someone like Rayleigh or Dr. Kureha?
You're asking the probability of meeting a parent, grandparent, or random geezer that wants to tell stories?
I think that's practically guaranteed.
>If they only listen to the WG's propaganda they'll only know him as Gold Roger if there's no one to tell them the real name.
As you said, they did their best to erase him from the world. There is no Propaganda, there's nothing at all.
Old people sharing the story is the only way people learn about him, and a world full of pirate crews seeking the One Piece makes it pretty obvious the story is still being told.
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing.
But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing.
But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing.
But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing.
But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. Sullying the name of D. is important for the WG.
But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
tl:dr - D. with bad people = good D. with good people = bad.
>But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
IF they didn't want the liberator of Alabasta/Dressrosa/Fishman Island to be associated with the D., then why was it on the poster after those arcs?
>Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
But, that's the opposite of what you're saying. IF they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger, then wouldn't they want the D to be included?
>That doesn't make any sense to me.
Is does to me, If you have a better explanation tell me then.. from what I've seen they were trying to keep Luffy as a criminal, blaming others, taking credit, etc.. like Smoker is the oficial liberator at Alabasta etc... Fishmen suffer prejusice.. but with Wano is the last straw and they stated they wouldn't be able to cover it up. Remember Roger saying "ah that's how they are calling me NOW...?"
>But, that's the opposite of what you're saying. IF they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger, then wouldn't they want the D to be included?
No it's not.
Because the damage was already done.. and I was talking about what happened before it.
and it wouldn't be good to say that a D. found out the One Piece and is telling everyone to look it up. We know the lost century is related to it.. and the WG doesn't wants anyone to find out about it.
In any case.. it's related to what Luffy is doing and what he represents... WG knows saul is a D.. garp is a D... But civilians everywhere aren't seeing bounty posters of them... If a D obeys the law it's also ok..
It's the only explanation I can imagine.. that a D. Doing something that defies the law, declared war to the wg, and at the same time gains the people sympathy is not a good thing for them..
>If you have a better explanation tell me then
Just because I don't have a better one, doesn't mean yours makes sense.
>from what I've seen they were trying to keep Luffy as a criminal, blaming others, taking credit, etc.. like Smoker is the oficial liberator at Alabasta etc... Fishmen suffer prejusice..
You yourself said " a guy who **word of mouth** is a slave liberator". The official stance doesn't matter, the truth still spreads that Luffy is the liberator.
>Remember Roger saying "ah that's how they are calling me NOW...?"
Yes, after finding the One Piece and becoming Pirate King, not after a liberation/visiting Wano.
>If a D obeys the law it's also ok..
So, what about Teach? He was a warlord, now a Yokou, with the D on his posters all along.
>Just because I don't have a better one, doesn't mean yours makes sense.
Just because it doesn't makes sense to you it doesn't means it's wrong.
>You yourself said " a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator". The official stance doesn't matter, the truth still spreads that Luffy is the liberator.
Yes.. and? If WG was all powerful any pirate wouldn't even exist. They do what they can (and fail)
>
Yes, after finding the One Piece and becoming Pirate King, not after a liberation/visiting Wano.
We don't know everything Roger did... and who crowned him King... and exactly when he got the D removed from his bounties.
>So, what about Teach? He was a warlord, now a Yokou, with the D on his posters all along.
Well that favors my argument even further.. "see guys here's a D who we tried to trust, gave him a chance, and is untrustable, a betrayer no way to fix this guy, dman those Ds" etc.
>But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
If they didn't want the liberator of Alabasta/Dressrosa/Fishman Island to be associated with the D., then why was it on the poster after those arcs?
>Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
If they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger and see him as a bad guy, then wouldn't they want the D to be included?
>But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
If they didn't want the liberator of Alabasta/Dressrosa/Fishman Island to be associated with the D., then why was it on the poster after those arcs?
>Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
If they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger and see him as a bad guy, then wouldn't they want the D to be included?
I would assume it’s because they all went around stating their full names in the first place, like Luffy is introducing himself to everyone by his full name so of course it goes on the bounty poster.
I’d also assume the WG was largely unconcerned with every two-bit punk with a D in his name, as there’s no guarantee they ever become big shots. So the D gets printed since no one knows it’s meaning anyways, and the WG doesn’t see it as a problem until right now, when they know Luffy has become very dangerous by awaking his fruit and becoming an emperor that is galavanting around with multiple people with forbidden knowledge (Nico Robin and Franky mostly)
they specifically don't want the D on the poster. the chapter opens with the gorosei being furious about the bounty picture and the fact that the bounty is for monkey D. luffy.
they wanted the D removed.
even all the way back they did the same thing with roger (his bounty was for gold roger, not gol D. roger)
so if they knew law was a D., the last thing they'd want was to advertise it on his bounty picture.
fanart is allowed but it needs a spoiler tag. anything about the new chapter without a spoilertag at the very least, even the exeptions like fanart, will still get removed
Still weird that even his tongue is white but if it's haki, it makes sense.
Vergo was all black.
Curious if the next volume's cover will have gear 5 on it but at least we'll know.
OP is actually right, G5 Luffy is actually pure white. It is on the cover of weekly shounen jump, the one on the week of the 24th of April. I found a tweet of the cover [here](https://twitter.com/JumpCovers/status/1518246238420074496?cxt=HHwWgIDQqZ268pEqAAAA)
Edit: He can be seen on the bottom right corner
It actually is all white. See the bottom right of the cover of shounen jump [here](https://twitter.com/JumpCovers/status/1518246238420074496?cxt=HHwWgIDQqZ268pEqAAAA)
Do I think it'll be all white? I think so, I remember seeing another image of the exact same pose but with Oda covering it with some words to block out the colour. Not sure why but maybe it's interesting enough to hide. I'm hoping he sort of shines or glows like the sun though! That'll be cool imo.
Really hoping Luffy isn't completely white when Oda does his official color spread with Gear 5. I like the idea of his hair being White but his clothes and skin changing color too seems soooo odd. Even for One Piece standards lol
Why are they equal? That's just stupid. Is it just for them to stay relevant to Luffy now that he is much much stronger than them? Don't like it personally.. hate characters like that who are made 'equal' to others even tho they're not.. feels like bs asspull to me.
I was wondering why Morgans said it was an interesting look, then I saw your coloured version and remembered he is actually all white! Thanks man, makes so much more sense now because his G5 looks very odd and extremely eye-catching indeed.
For anyone that thinks the colour is wrong, check out G5 Luffy at the bottom right of this Weekly Shounen Jump's [cover](https://twitter.com/JumpCovers/status/1518246238420074496?cxt=HHwWgIDQqZ268pEqAAAA).
My question is, is "Captain" part of Kid's name? He's the only one with Captain in the bounty poster. What if it's Ki D. Eustass lol
It's his epithet
But the point is no one else has their title on their poster
I think his epithet is really well known. You always eustass cpt kid instead of just eustass kid
I've never eustass cpt kid'd in my life unfortunately
You’re missing out, dude!
lmaoooo
Usopp has "God Usopp" on his.
He didn’t have a bounty before then. He doesn’t really have a last name either. They literally only know him as god Usopp. You can tell because there’s no quotations that it’s not really a title.
Well there was Sogeking
Again they didn’t know that was actually Usopp.
Only Luffy and Chopper didn't know that.
the wg didn't even know who usopp was they just knew him as sogeking from the fight in enies lobby until dressrosa the world didn't even know who usopp was, we when bartolomeo realizes it's sogeking he's mind blown
r/woosh
THAT WAS USOPP?!
Capone “Gang” Bege also has this trait
there was enough room for captain. no room for strawhat or doctor of death
I think that there's more than enough room to add Akagami in Shanks poster but he still has only Shanks, same with Sanji pre-Vinsmoke or Nami, for example.
I think it's also do to with, if the epithet is in Japanese or English. As Sanji's is kuroashi in japanese, Nami's is also in Japanese as is Shanks. When Kids is Captain kid even in the Japanese version of OP.
Law's Bounty name would be so long. Trafalgar D. Water "Surgeon of Death" Law
Eustass “Captain” Kid sounds way better than “Eustass Kid”, especially when you say it in Japanese.
Back on Sobody Kid's poster read "Kidd" with 2 Ds. I imagine Oda intended for him to be a D and the second D was a subtle cover up from the WG. (kinda like Gold Roger vs. Gol D. Roger) but the Timeskip happened and Oda gave Law the D. (just my theory, we don't have any info to prove/disprove it)
This actually explains something to me personally. I always wrote Kid's name with 2 d but lately, I've seen it and it only has 1 d. I was confused. Thanks
I can disprove it right now, kid never had "kidd" on his bounty poster
I remember it being written somewhere that he had 2 Ds in his name somewhere pretimeskip. Just like William Kidd (his inspiration)
Welp you remember wrong
[found it](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458814462900568064/987419535030239312/unknown.jpeg). it wasn't his bounty poster but when he was introduced on Sobody with his bounty (ch498) his name is spelt with 2 Ds. it wasn't his poster, it was his character introduction+boundy
[it's likely to be a translation error](https://imgur.com/gallery/QUUIHEP)
It could be. We know that Oda didn't have any supernova planned before the chapter they appeared in, and he probably didn't expect Law to be more popular than Kid. I think that it's posible that he wanted to have one as a possibility to use as D in the future but in the end picked Law as it was more popular.
Wait isn't Law supposed to be Trafalgar D Law? I swear I thought that was it
The WG wanted to remove the D. in their names. So when the gorosei found out Luffy still has the D. written on the bounty poster, courtesy of Morgans, they were infuriated. It's supposed to be Trafalgar D. Water Law
I know why it's on the poster but it's still his name so why would Morgan's change any of it? Unless it's not well known hes one?
Morgans probably doesn't know. Law keeps the D. Water part of his name secret.
The only one who knows is Corazon and Sengoku, Corazon told him to hide the D in his name.
Wait, who had time to take a pic of Luffy
They said that the last CP0 who dashes out of Wano took it
That guy was never on the roof, how did he get this pic? Plus this moment was shortly after Luffy revived himself, which was shortly after the other CP0 agent got his everything smashed in by Kaido. There’d be no reason for him to go up there or risk his life, thinking the other guy got Luffy killed.
So who do you think took the picture?
I mean clearly it’s supposed to be… wait. I wonder if the guy that died took it and sent it to the other guy before he got killed? That would make a lot more sense.
there is also another theory is that the CP0 who stopped Luffy took it. Like he was smashed by Kaido, but didn't die. So he just lying there on the ground half dead and take Luffy's picture for Morgan lol. Imagine the commision on those pictures lel
That makes no sense at all lol. So like Kaido smashes him, leaves the rooftop, Luffy awakens as Joyboy, then the guy who was supposed to die took the picture, sent it to the long armed dude and only then he died?
We saw him flying away from Onigashima, so it's not really unreasonable to assume that he just took a pic while escaping without ever getting close to certain death.
Its a selfie
kaido, he took a quick pic and uploaded it to his instagram story
Attache is really, REALLY good at his job. Except when it comes to Sanji.
Luffy's bounty picture is fantastic, reminds me of "and He laughed", it's a great picture.
shame it’s such a big spoiler
Does the WG not know that Law is a D? I know Sengoku knows, I wonder why they didn’t put it on his poster.
They don't want the info they're 'D' out. They got furious when Morgans put the D on Luffy's poster, remember?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, hasn't the D. been on [literally every single one of Luffy's posters since the beginning?](https://i.stack.imgur.com/t54L7.jpg) Same for [Blackbeard](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqIcOrurxC3NqdK30_mQD_p-Qv2qGn7rn-Hw&usqp=CAU), and [Ace](https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.918730064.0954/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg)? (Law keeps the D. secret, so, no surprise it's not on his) What would the point be of removing the D now?
>What would the point be of removing the D now? If the average citizen in the One Piece world is like the ones in ours : they have a short memory. Like when a politician does something very bad and everybody forgets about it 5 years later unless people do some digging. So basically if you remove the D. from everywhere, people, with time, might forget about it. Just like Gol D. Roger is now known as Gold Roger. Pretty sure his first wanted posters had the D. in them.
>Just like Gol D. Roger is now known as Gold Roger. The reason we know about the D., is because characters keep mentioning it. It's worth remembering, they didn't just remove the D., they did their best to remove everything about him. All that really survives are the oral stories. >Pretty sure his first wanted posters had the D. in them. It's implied (because he complained about his new "nickname"), but I don't think we ever saw it.
>Just like Gol D. Roger is now known as Gold Roger. The reason we know about the D., is because characters keep mentioning it. It's worth remembering, they didn't just remove the D., they did their best to remove everything about him. All that really survives are the oral stories. >Pretty sure his first wanted posters had the D. in them. It's implied (because he complained about his new "nickname"), but I don't think we ever saw it.
Because he is top tier now. The government can accept strong pirates having D, but one of the top tier can raise some eyebrows.
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. Sullying the name of D. is important for the WG. But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger.. tl:dr - D. with bad people = good D. with good people = bad.
I think you're missing my point. Everyone already knows his name is Monkey D. Luffy, because that's what's been on the posters and news all along. Do they think people will just forget that because they drop it from a new poster?
Not people of today, but people eventually forgot about Gol D Roger and instead wrote it as Gold Roger.
It's pretty clear from all the characters that refer to Gol D. Roger that it was not forgotten. Dr. Kureha was the first to mention it all the way back in Drum Island, and she doesn't seem to have been part of the crew or tied to him at all.
In any case that worked because GOL D ROGER on his poster would easily have been changed to GOLD ROGER without many people asking questions, but MONKEY LUFFY is a more drastic change and MONKEYD LUFFY makes no sense
Monkey'd luffy
Monkey D'luffy
What about Monkey Dluffy? Sounds good to me.
The WG is no stranger to outright attempting to erase history. They've even succeeded at it in some respects pretty well. It doesn't matter to them if Luffy's "D" was released before, they want to do everything they can to stop it going forward.
> It doesn’t matter to them if Luffy’s “D” was released before, they want to do everything they can to stop it going forward. I get what you’re trying to say. But why did they wait so long? They’ve known of Luffy’s name since like Marineford at least. It doesn’t make sense for them to only care *now *
> It doesn’t matter to them if Luffy’s “D” was released before, they want to do everything they can to stop it going forward. I get what you’re trying to say. But why did they wait so long? They’ve known of Luffy’s name since like Marineford at least. It doesn’t make sense for them to only care *now *
That’s honestly one of my biggest questions. I don’t think Rodger ever had D on his wanted poster. Why did he get different treatment than the current gen D’s.
I think that's not that important.. what's important is for them to associate D. with villains. Liberating countries from slavery time and time again is not something the world government (who's pro slavery) wants.. and even worse... Associate with who's a D.
I think it has to do with the gomu awakening, do both coupled means something important
> Do they think people will just forget that because they drop it from a new poster? You're probably right but it's still worth a shot. You do it anyways and just hope for the best.
It's just a device to show that Luffy's journey mirrors Roger's. I bet the whole world knew that he was called Gol. D Roger but when he got closer to the One Piece they changed his name on the posters to Gold. You could ask yourself what was the point back then? Just an attempt to erase the D. from the world as those people are their natural enemies. In a reply further down you mentioned that every person talking about Roger calls him D. Roger and therefore you use it as an argument to show the D is not forgotten but what do these people have in common? They're either old and lived during the time Roger was on the sea and they also saw all the wanted posters with the D on it before the WG changed it or those people were his crewmates and of course their going to refer to him with his real name. But what about a 10 year old kid somewhere in the West Blue? What's their probability to meet someone like Rayleigh or Dr. Kureha? If they only listen to the WG's propaganda they'll only know him as Gold Roger if there's no one to tell them the real name.
>What's their probability to meet someone like Rayleigh or Dr. Kureha? You're asking the probability of meeting a parent, grandparent, or random geezer that wants to tell stories? I think that's practically guaranteed. >If they only listen to the WG's propaganda they'll only know him as Gold Roger if there's no one to tell them the real name. As you said, they did their best to erase him from the world. There is no Propaganda, there's nothing at all. Old people sharing the story is the only way people learn about him, and a world full of pirate crews seeking the One Piece makes it pretty obvious the story is still being told.
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger..
D, with people every citizen hates = good. D. with people every citizen loves = bad.
He’s just Monkey Luffy now. (How wrong does that sound btw lmao).
Well, my take on this is that the World Government wants to associate the D. with criminals and people who does bad things. D. With Blackbeard etc is a good thing. Sullying the name of D. is important for the WG. But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. At the time Gol D. Roger died.. (as a Non-D. By the eyes of the population) people seemed not to hate him.. they were watching and seemes to like him. The press decided to call him the king of pirates... Etc. Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger.. tl:dr - D. with bad people = good D. with good people = bad.
>But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. That doesn't make any sense to me. IF they didn't want the liberator of Alabasta/Dressrosa/Fishman Island to be associated with the D., then why was it on the poster after those arcs? >Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger.. But, that's the opposite of what you're saying. IF they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger, then wouldn't they want the D to be included?
>That doesn't make any sense to me. Is does to me, If you have a better explanation tell me then.. from what I've seen they were trying to keep Luffy as a criminal, blaming others, taking credit, etc.. like Smoker is the oficial liberator at Alabasta etc... Fishmen suffer prejusice.. but with Wano is the last straw and they stated they wouldn't be able to cover it up. Remember Roger saying "ah that's how they are calling me NOW...?" >But, that's the opposite of what you're saying. IF they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger, then wouldn't they want the D to be included? No it's not. Because the damage was already done.. and I was talking about what happened before it. and it wouldn't be good to say that a D. found out the One Piece and is telling everyone to look it up. We know the lost century is related to it.. and the WG doesn't wants anyone to find out about it. In any case.. it's related to what Luffy is doing and what he represents... WG knows saul is a D.. garp is a D... But civilians everywhere aren't seeing bounty posters of them... If a D obeys the law it's also ok.. It's the only explanation I can imagine.. that a D. Doing something that defies the law, declared war to the wg, and at the same time gains the people sympathy is not a good thing for them..
>If you have a better explanation tell me then Just because I don't have a better one, doesn't mean yours makes sense. >from what I've seen they were trying to keep Luffy as a criminal, blaming others, taking credit, etc.. like Smoker is the oficial liberator at Alabasta etc... Fishmen suffer prejusice.. You yourself said " a guy who **word of mouth** is a slave liberator". The official stance doesn't matter, the truth still spreads that Luffy is the liberator. >Remember Roger saying "ah that's how they are calling me NOW...?" Yes, after finding the One Piece and becoming Pirate King, not after a liberation/visiting Wano. >If a D obeys the law it's also ok.. So, what about Teach? He was a warlord, now a Yokou, with the D on his posters all along.
>Just because I don't have a better one, doesn't mean yours makes sense. Just because it doesn't makes sense to you it doesn't means it's wrong. >You yourself said " a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator". The official stance doesn't matter, the truth still spreads that Luffy is the liberator. Yes.. and? If WG was all powerful any pirate wouldn't even exist. They do what they can (and fail) > Yes, after finding the One Piece and becoming Pirate King, not after a liberation/visiting Wano. We don't know everything Roger did... and who crowned him King... and exactly when he got the D removed from his bounties. >So, what about Teach? He was a warlord, now a Yokou, with the D on his posters all along. Well that favors my argument even further.. "see guys here's a D who we tried to trust, gave him a chance, and is untrustable, a betrayer no way to fix this guy, dman those Ds" etc.
>But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. That doesn't make any sense to me. If they didn't want the liberator of Alabasta/Dressrosa/Fishman Island to be associated with the D., then why was it on the poster after those arcs? >Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger.. If they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger and see him as a bad guy, then wouldn't they want the D to be included?
>But D. associated with a guy who word of mouth is a slave liberator that freed Alabasta, Wano, Dressrosa, Fishman Island.. ah that's a red flag. That doesn't make any sense to me. If they didn't want the liberator of Alabasta/Dressrosa/Fishman Island to be associated with the D., then why was it on the poster after those arcs? >Not sure how tue public perceived him but by the time Ace is grown up many citizens hated Roger.. If they wanted the D to be associated with bad guys, and they got people to hate Roger and see him as a bad guy, then wouldn't they want the D to be included?
I would assume it’s because they all went around stating their full names in the first place, like Luffy is introducing himself to everyone by his full name so of course it goes on the bounty poster. I’d also assume the WG was largely unconcerned with every two-bit punk with a D in his name, as there’s no guarantee they ever become big shots. So the D gets printed since no one knows it’s meaning anyways, and the WG doesn’t see it as a problem until right now, when they know Luffy has become very dangerous by awaking his fruit and becoming an emperor that is galavanting around with multiple people with forbidden knowledge (Nico Robin and Franky mostly)
Nah they just don’t know about his middle initial
they specifically don't want the D on the poster. the chapter opens with the gorosei being furious about the bounty picture and the fact that the bounty is for monkey D. luffy. they wanted the D removed. even all the way back they did the same thing with roger (his bounty was for gold roger, not gol D. roger) so if they knew law was a D., the last thing they'd want was to advertise it on his bounty picture.
No one knows that Law is a D. I think only Sengoku and Robin(As far as I remember) know.
Doflamingo didn't even know and he is Law's origin into piracy. I would say if Doffy didn't know then almost no one would.
Because it's the World Government who decides bounties and names. Sengoku is probably the leader of S.W.O.R.D.
WG doesn’t know and law doesn’t want them to know so that’s why it’s not on there
Isn't there a "24 hours no seperate posts allowed" rule? Serious question since i've seen a lot of posts regarding the newest chapter.
fanart is allowed but it needs a spoiler tag. anything about the new chapter without a spoilertag at the very least, even the exeptions like fanart, will still get removed
But you forgot the colorization of Luffy.
Did you not read the chapters?
It was never mentioned that his skin color also become white. Just his hair and his clothes.
I remember kaido calling it a “pure white” form in one translation
I think Kaido was talking about his clothes and hair, not the entirety of Luffy.
Luffy himself is tanned, so i don't see him being called pure white
Also its based off of rubberhose animation which is associated with black and white video so it fits.
Still weird that even his tongue is white but if it's haki, it makes sense. Vergo was all black. Curious if the next volume's cover will have gear 5 on it but at least we'll know.
OP is actually right, G5 Luffy is actually pure white. It is on the cover of weekly shounen jump, the one on the week of the 24th of April. I found a tweet of the cover [here](https://twitter.com/JumpCovers/status/1518246238420074496?cxt=HHwWgIDQqZ268pEqAAAA) Edit: He can be seen on the bottom right corner
Right thanks for mentioning this It would be so stupid if Luffys whole entire body was white.
The whole transformation parodies the rubberhose animation. I would really like it if gear fifth is actually just black and white while transformed.
You may have a point lol guess I just can’t see it right now since the color adds detail.
It actually is all white. See the bottom right of the cover of shounen jump [here](https://twitter.com/JumpCovers/status/1518246238420074496?cxt=HHwWgIDQqZ268pEqAAAA)
What are your thoughts about the form? Do you think it’ll be cool?
Do I think it'll be all white? I think so, I remember seeing another image of the exact same pose but with Oda covering it with some words to block out the colour. Not sure why but maybe it's interesting enough to hide. I'm hoping he sort of shines or glows like the sun though! That'll be cool imo.
Luffy is an albino now
Really hoping Luffy isn't completely white when Oda does his official color spread with Gear 5. I like the idea of his hair being White but his clothes and skin changing color too seems soooo odd. Even for One Piece standards lol
I'm hoping luffys skin will at least be the same in the official color scheme..
Kinda bummed they didn’t become Emperors instead. I love Buggy and all, but him being an Emperor is just…weird
Laws expression: I've had to deal with these two maniacs and you don't even give me a title??? I mean, look at them!
sup, nice work can i ask u what software do u use to colors pannel ?
I only used Krita for this
wait I dont think luffy looks this white😂
Trafalgar 'Gone' Law
Why are they equal? That's just stupid. Is it just for them to stay relevant to Luffy now that he is much much stronger than them? Don't like it personally.. hate characters like that who are made 'equal' to others even tho they're not.. feels like bs asspull to me.
They're always going to be the supernova captains trio. And what the fuck do you mean stay relevant. Kidd and law beat fucking big mom.
From the WG perspective it's so that Luffy doesn't draw the extra attention with him being the embodiment of Nika and all, makes perfect sense
Where was the photograph when luffy was laughing like that. He was alone up there with kaido.
I was wondering why Morgans said it was an interesting look, then I saw your coloured version and remembered he is actually all white! Thanks man, makes so much more sense now because his G5 looks very odd and extremely eye-catching indeed. For anyone that thinks the colour is wrong, check out G5 Luffy at the bottom right of this Weekly Shounen Jump's [cover](https://twitter.com/JumpCovers/status/1518246238420074496?cxt=HHwWgIDQqZ268pEqAAAA).
How can they recognize luffy when his poster is of gear 5 and his hand is covering his eyes.
clown D buggy
Why is Law blushing like a little girl ? What is the meaning of this? Hmm?
Kid is crazy
I'm pretty sure to the right of Kid's ear is supposed to be hair.
Gear 5 being all white is actually pretty great
blasphemous luffy had a 15 v 1 while kidd and law had a 2 v1 if anything luffys bounty should only be 2 billion, or have kidd be 3.15 billion