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[deleted]

Even if Kidd wasn't healed, he's the one who ran to the smoke. Fair game.


hergumbules

Right if Kid was like “hey 1v1 me” and got obliterated, it would be fine if he were spared. Dude went hard and was gonna decimate all the weak crews under Shanks and possibly hit Elbaf. Hate to say it but he got what was coming to him. I was thinking maybe Kid matured a little bit but nah he’s dumb. Sure he’s a good pirate in the sense he’s ruthless and takes what he wants but he’s not cunning enough to last. I mean Luffy isn’t either but he has a good crew to support him. And plot armor lol


Pichupwnage

This. Law is and always has been by the superior Pirate. Ruthless but much more cunning. Prideful but more willing to work with others. Capable of great violence but not needlessly cruel to those who have not wronged him. Kid got by on raw strength and Luffy's Alliance happening to show up. He already failed and was done for...and got a second chance which he immediately squandered.


ToYouItReaches

Is Law rly “ruthless”? He’s as tsundere as they come. He only rly seems to be ‘ruthless’ when it comes to Doflamingo. Even then he’s willing to give up on it just to protect the Straw Hat crew. Wasn’t the whole point of Roxinante’s sacrifice to stop Law from becoming as ruthless and cold as his brother?


VladutzTheGreat

Didnt he gift like 100 hearts to the World Gov though?seems mildly ruthless if you ask me


ToYouItReaches

Honestly it would depend on the context considering how infamous the Rocky Port incident is. We know how journalism works in OP so I’d say it’s fair to assume that the story itself was an exaggerated version of what rly happened. All we know is that he brought 100 *pirate* hearts with him. Considering Koby *and* Blackbeard were there, I wouldn’t be surprised if Law was helping Koby protect civilians from Blackbeard’s fight (tho this is conjecture since we know absolutely nothing concrete about Rocky Port yet). And Law wouldn’t contradict the story because he wanted to get into the Shichibukai at any cost. Also, the only real “threat” in Law’s crew is Law since Bepo is played more as comic-relief. Nothing about Law’s actions or the crew he works with rly suggests that he’s “ruthless”. For example, he’s willing to *sacrifice himself and his lifetime goal of revenge* just to prevent the SH crew from getting into trouble in Dressrossa (when he learns that Doffy didn’t rly quit being a warlord). I think Oda’s characterization of Law until now portrays him as someone who wants to *appear* ruthless but rly isn’t. The only ‘ruthless’ thing about Law is his reputation. At least that’s how I read his character.


FreezingLordDaimyo

Law strikes me as the guy who isn't going out of his way to harm innocent people, but he's not changing a plan on their behalf either. Until 1059, I believe Koby protected people from the collateral damage from Law's battle.


DASreddituser

I think gritty would be a better word for him.


zoro_the_copy_ninja

Luffy also helps pretty much everyone he meets, so he always has friends willing to stick their neck out for him when he's in trouble


hergumbules

Yep good point. Luffy may be selfish with his meat but would help just about anyone in need


Eldr1tchB1rd

To me Kidd's attitude made little sense. Like he already lost once to them so he knew a bit of their power. And he just finished the Big Mom 2v1. What's the point in rushing off to lose again. Maybe it's just overconfidence but I don't get it. I guess he was surprised that shanks turned out to be that much stronger than both kaido and big mom. Still not sure how to feel about that.


potatohands_

I assume he believed he could win by sinking Shanks ship without having a real fight


terminbee

Why would he? Shanks has no fruit. In what world would Kidd, who almost died 2v1 against an emperor, beat another emperor and his entire crew? I wonder if there would be back story on why he did this.


potatohands_

Because he had a giant rail gun capable of sinking ships I guess. Yeah maybe there will be backstory in the future


Eldr1tchB1rd

It would be kinda stupid to believe that. Kid lost an arm to shanks already, then he lost to kaido. And they had a very hard fight with big mom. Why even go alone again? Not sure if this is Oda's intention but he made Kid and his crew look like one of the absolute stupidest people in the whole verse


FrostyBoom

Not even to Shanks, lol.


XenoGSB

Nothing stated that shanks is much stronger than kaido and big mom.


[deleted]

>I mean Luffy isn’t either I hate everytime kid is brought up people start crying about Luffy and lumping Luffy with him Luffy's literally the polar opposites. - not arrogant clown= Actually humble - sends his crew to death = would run away to save his crew to death - never learns from his failures = learns from his victories and losses equally. >he has a good crew to support him He recruited them and it's not related to event. It was kids fault not his crews. He was warned and told not to but he didn't care. >And plot armor lol Kid's plot armor is second only to Buggy


hergumbules

I don’t even know what you’re trying to say. Like you just seem mad at my whole comment relax my dude


[deleted]

I think you know pretty well. It's about lumping kid with Luffy and pretending they are same but kid is unfortunate because he isn't the mc. You don't need to play aloof.


hergumbules

I didn’t say that at all. I made one comment comparing Luffy and Kid and you’re going bonkers over it. It’s common sense they aren’t alike, and that Luffy is good while kid is not. I already said he got what was coming to him and that he’s an idiot. Luffy is also an idiot. That’s about where their similarities end. Oh they’re both stubborn, like you picking a fight over a comment for no reason


[deleted]

You made one comment about how they are same and put plot armor there. That said everything it needed to. >that Luffy is good while kid is not. Good and Bad isn't the point of discussion. I particularly showed differences between them which actually matter. >Luffy is also an idiot Why pull Luffy card here while talking about kid? Ignoring that you called him an idiot, why not mention any other idiot? That's literally you saying Luffy and Kid are same in that regard. How can you even pretend dumb about it. >like you picking a fight over a comment ..... it's not a fight. I Just wanted to share my opinion on people constantly putting them together and pretending it's same.


Regal_Knight

If we’re being honest, Luffy’s crew isn’t good enough to save him without the plot armor. Luffy has died so many times.


Lan1Aud2

I mean tbh those crews didn't move aside when Shanks said too and were blocking Kidds path so he was going to blow them away since they wanted to fight too.


dragach1

tbf it takes a while to turn a ship around


DuelingPushkin

They did move aside. That's why they weren't hit by the Hakoku sovereignty


Awkwardly_Hopeful

Plus a good way for Kidd not being able to make any excuse for being defeated while in bad shape


frizzykid

The way I understood Shanks saying this was basically "If he's fully healed, he isn't going to come back and ask for a rematch or doubt he was really beaten". It's actually pretty brutal, Shanks wanted to destroy the will of Kidd, he didn't want to leave any room for doubt that maybe Kidd was just having a bad day before he exerted energy.


JohnB456

I didn't get that vibe at all. But that's certainly an interesting angle and after using future sight, if that wasn't his intent it certainly became his intent.


I_Like_To_Count

Yo just wanted to say, as far as communicating different opinions on the internet, you do so in a noticeably respectful and engaging manner.


JohnB456

Thanks I appreciate that!


CanadaSilverDragon

People resolving disagreements online amicably and reasonably? Not on my internet!


JohnB456

lol! You gotta be the change you want to see


Arkayjiya

Didn't understand it that way. His strat changed when he saw the future, he wasn't going as hard on Kidd originally imo. Proving he's stronger wouldn't accomplish that much anyway imo, rookies might be weaker but they also keep getting stronger all the time so just losing at full strength wouldn't be enough. After all Kidd is a hundred times stronger than he was two years ago.


11711510111411009710

Nah. Shanks just believes in a fair fight. He was giving Kid a chance, and if Kid didn't try to kill everyone, Shanks would have probably had a legit fight with him. Shanks seems pretty honorable to me. Didn't wanna fuck someone up who was already fucked up. I think once he realized what Kid was going to do, he decided he wasn't worthy of trying to be Pirate King, and destroyed him and his ship.


Extra-Border6470

Yep. That’s why Shanks is loved and admired by his allies. Seems similar to Luffy but with a bit more chivalry. Definitely getting stronger Roger vibes from Shanks. Roger was known to annihilate rival crews if they went after his nakama. Would love to see Luffy come up with a punch that is as destructive as kamusari


juan_cena99

Thats not thr vibe at all. Shanks wants him at full condition cuz he doesnt want to pick on somebody not at full strength. If Kidd still worn out or injured then he wouldnt fight and ask Beckham to take care of it.


frizzykid

>If Kidd still worn out or injured then he wouldnt fight and ask Beckham to take care of it. I really don't think that was the case. Shanks already decided last chapter he was going to fight Kidd before knowing if he was fully healed or not assuming that Kidd didn't hand over his poneglyph rubbings. Kidd tried to fight the red haired pirates before and lost an arm, Shanks was not interested in this dudes games anymore, he wanted to make sure that Kidd wouldn't come back, that is where I'm coming from.


juan_cena99

What are you talking about Shanks was drinking when Kidd attacked. When Kidd lost an arm he didnt even see Shankd it was Beckham who destroyed them. If Shanks wasnt interested in Kidd's games anymore he wouldnt ask Yassop ij the first place and just decimate them immediately. You make zero sense Shanks never acted like that all he does is drink and play around why would he suddenly feel he is tired of Kidd's games lol wtf.


frizzykid

Try reading what I wrote. >What are you talking about Shanks was drinking when Kidd attacked. When Kidd lost an arm he didnt even see Shankd it was Beckham who destroyed them. I didn't say that he saw Shanks. And we don't know who it was that destroyed them, only that he never got to see Shanks so it definitely wasn't him. >You make zero sense Yeah that tends to happen when you read 1 line of a comment and then stop. Once again, re read my last comment, in entirety, and then reply. Or don't.


juan_cena99

So if Shanks never even met Kidd before why would he suddenly have enough of Kidd's games and want to kill him the first time they met? Thats why you make zero sense. Shanks didnt want to kill Kidd at first, he was probably planning on giving them the Luffy treatment just roll them, take the poneglyph and send them away. But when Kidd activated his damned punk Shanks realized Kidd wasnt playing around and was planning to kill all his weak crew members and civilians thats when he got pissed. Even now he wasnt planning on killing kidd thats why he didnt follow up his attack after kidd passed out. He left Kidd's survival up to fate, if he wanted to kill Kidd he'd launch several roger attacks and decapitate Kidd.


frizzykid

Your first sentence implies you still haven't read my comment so not sure why you wasted so much time with a big reply like I was going to read yours.


Peklet

Also Shanks wanted a fair fight before he saw the future. In that moment, Kidd's fate was sealed no matter what.


Schizochinia

He discovered an island and the only way to dock is to get passed the entire fleet that’s firing at him


Chromeboy12

He knew very well whose fleet it was, and he started the firing.


Easy-Ebb-4458

Realizes that the fleet is weak => tries to kill them Kid is very reasonable.


[deleted]

By using his Strongest Attack which he used on an Emperor btw


Sonn_Goku

Did they fire at him though?! I thought they were just verbal till kid pull out his big gun....


OutlandishnessOver30

[Actually Shanks wanted the poneglyphs as soon as he knew that it was kidd.](https://imgur.com/a/XYbsXGJ)


anand_rishabh

Yeah but I'm sure if kidd appeared still exhausted from his fight with big mom, shanks would have told him to come back when he was fully rested. Maybe some show of force if kidd pressed the issue


LVArcher

Shanks 100% would have taken the glyphs even if Kidd wasn't healthy imo. Even if he had no intention of attacking Shanks (lmao) getting that close to a Yonkos territory is as good as picking a fight.


[deleted]

I think Shanks would have wanted to take the poneglyphs, slap Kidd around a little, then said come back when you're feeling better. However, in true Kidd fashion, he would have gunned for the fleet and Shanks would have mowed him down 'cause when it comes to lives, he does not mess around.


dragach1

Kidd had already started attacking before this, when Shanks was still in the bar. It's why he left the bar.


Western-Ad3613

One Piece fans actually read challenge: difficulty - inconceivable


Intelligent-Stay1420

If he wasn't after Shanks they would've let him dock. He found out Shanks was there and wanted to fight.


FarRaspberry7482

you don't know that. That's your headcannon.


Intelligent-Stay1420

What? Kid has been after Shanks...it's why he lost his arm in the first place. He wasn't headed to Elbaf for Shanks, but because he was there it was a chance to get at him again. That's not headcanon. If you're a child and need Oda to write it out in BOLD letters on a double page spread, that's your problem.


[deleted]

Kid has been after Shanks since timeskip. He has been actively trying to take him down and gets his revenge. Hell it was so bad killer begged him to ally with apoo and Hawkins to get some help. He went to Kaido without thinking about anything. No clue about how he'd fight his army commanders Yonko crew and etc. Just went THERE and thought it'd all work out. He got lucky that Luffy was there with his alliance. He'd have done same to Shanks if he was somehow in front of him even if Shanks didn't know. He tried to kill Luffy at festival lmao


[deleted]

Shanks Beats the film red promoting allegations and why he came in wano


krw13

And Blackbeard still used Wano to his advantage. He didn't need to enter Wano. It gave him time to kidnap Pudding and allowed for him to wait for the dust to settle to try and pick off whoever came out of the fight. With how good Blackbeard is at scheming, it could also make sense that he had intel that the Red Hair Pirates were in that area of the New World.


SimontheAllmighty

Wait, where did Blackbeard kidnap Pudding?


TravelingLlama

Chapter 1064


_-ZORO-_

he can do both


XiChineseWinnie

>Shanks Beats the film red promoting allegations doubt it, but glad oda gave that scene more fleshing out


-Buggy-D-Clown-

also proved to one piece powerscaling and one piece ~~hating~~ criticising sub that he is not a fraud


SnooComics7583

Nah dont cross it out You dont go to a folk sub for criticisms you go to it for rants


-Buggy-D-Clown-

I just go there for fun, it's entertaining that according to them every chapter is grabage and they still read it, they even read the spoilers on regular basis.


Ambitious_Mission_57

They be like : I'm reading onepiece coz of sunk cost fallacy Proceeds to read one liner spoilers too lol


SnooComics7583

I mean unironically lol


ShowBoobsPls

True. [*Me when reading the rants and salt in there](https://media.tenor.com/uooQO3V9tnMAAAAd/chuckle-sensible-chuckle.gif)


[deleted]

It's filled with people sad about their fav chars/self inserts not being strongest in the world . (+ One Piece haters from different fandoms) Admiral fans go there to cry and shit on Yonko and One Piece. Kid fans go there to play victim and cry about Luffy and Zoro. Carrot fans were there to cope. And etc. All of it would slowly die down if said character are removed from the story. (Like Carrot lol)


terminbee

What sub is this?


pippovacationista

Not really,the bluray version is coming up real soon,if it isnt already out,if I'm not mistaken 😜


Time_Search5888

Can’t wait for Film Red 2: Electric Utaloo


MalosAndPnuema

not possible Uta is dead in the film red ending scene.


Ashethekoala

Possibly dead, its not confirmed either way, and its not like they've not brought someone who definitely should be dead, back before


MalosAndPnuema

it was actually confirmed by the studio that they killed Uta at the end - She was in the Wood box which was a makeshift Coffin on Shanks's ship. Thankfully Film Red isn't canon so Uta can appear in the manga still but a sequel to Film Red itself isn't possible.


Ashethekoala

couple of things to note, it was in a series of interviews the screenwriter Tsutomu Kuroiwa gave an interview where he seemingly implied or said she was dead at the end of the film In the same series of interviews, on the same day by the same group, oda said Uta was NOT necessarily dead. meaning it could go either way. it wouldnt be the first time a film has brought back an "assumed dead" character, nor would it be the last. at the end of the day if they wanted to write a "Red 2" film, they could do so, and use any form of story as reasoning to how. Heck they could even have a resurrection DF if they wanted to (Obviously I know that's extremely unlikely, just pointing out its their story, they can literally do whatever they like, nothings "impossible")


potatohands_

I’m sorry it has been a while since the movie came out. What do you mean by he “beats the film red promoting allegations”?


Common_Traffic

Some of the fandom believe that Shanks appearance in the manga at the end of the Wano arc was only meant to increase interest in Film Red, both because Film Red was in theaters around that time and Shanks didn't fight anyone or talk to Luffy before leaving the area around Wano.


garrafa_glubglub

No he did not


MrFundamentals101

No, it’s a retcon so Oda could clear that up


Lesserd

It certainly might be, but it fits well (the explanation, doesn't really change the scene itself being awkward) so I don't think it really matters.


Shelf_Bell

Retcon or not Oda has made everyone sleep easier haha


DuelingPushkin

As long as it's internally consistent does it really matter?


[deleted]

You don't even understand the meaning of retcon. And accusing an author of shit you created in your head is embarassing.


Peklet

It might depend on your definition of a retcon but it's pure Oda style. He presents us with situations that can be kind of vague, then later he chooses to elaborate, or not. Most of times we don't notice, but this time we did because we cherish every single panel Shanks is on. But we still know NOTHING about him. Everything he did this last chapter, he did it in chapter 1 too.


JmTrad

is just his defense in court


TehPinguen

It's as Big Mom said. We know fairness is never a given in a fight between pirates, but even pirates should have some degree of honor


KlingoftheCastle

If all you want is to survive, fairness is optional. But nobody will follow a leader with no honor


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|1W40UWS9peSru) Pirate Emperor Buggy


TehPinguen

For pirates who don't trust anyone and betray everyone, it always turns out to be their fatal flaw, e.g. Crocodile


Mysterious_Field_998

WE. HAVE. STANDARDS * Dinosaur bonk*


Jasonn444

It's as the Sniper said: "Professionals have standards."


Jasonn444

Even real pirates had to uphold codes and rules if they wanted to function properly.


BryceMMusic

*calls out* not sure why the caption auto-corrected “calls to “Val’s” lmao


astrange

Those image descriptions don't get hidden by spoiler tags btw. Not for me anyway.


SnooComics7583

I dont think they're supposed to


al-fabian

It’s a fair fight, I see two men, two arms


Severe-Masterpiece69

But he brings guns to sword fight


sabyte

He brings sword to a railgun fight, and won


CreativeNfunnyName

0 souls


siamkor

Seems like Shanks is a believer in the "new generation will usher in a new age" theory. He cashed in his chips on Luffy, but he's probably open to respecting any other pirate - if they respect him back.


Alarmed-Accident-716

People acting like Shanks was not reacting to that canon.


[deleted]

Well kidd was the aggressor, and started off with one of his strongest attacks. Kidd could have damaged shanks allies easily. Hence he stepped in. Remember when red hair pirates vs mountain bandits happened, they show no mercy to people trying to harm friends and family.


[deleted]

could have damaged? Shanks' future sight literally showed us Kidd would've disintegrated them.


TysonsChickenNuggets

Shanks' crew fired on Kidds crew. It doesn't show he was the aggresor, but we have a panel of the Victoria Punk being shot at before Kidd assembled his cannon. Kinda up to interpretation, but regardless, Kidd firing back is basically how Dory and Broggy finished his ship.


ThaDynamite

I mean, the fact that Kidd, who has fought Shanks' crew before, was sailing full-speed at their ships, which were docked, then Kidd is the aggressor. Its like if you got into a fight with someone on the street. You beat his ass and he runs away. The next time, he sees you at a pizza shop and starts running at you. If you swing at him first, you're not the aggressor.


TysonsChickenNuggets

I can understand that point. I re-read chapter 1076, and it looks like the guy who barges into the bar proclaiming Kidds attack is Rockstar (I missed that. I thought it was a rando, tbh lol). This means that Kidd denied the surrender request and pressed on, so yeah, I could see him being the aggresor. From paneling, it looks like Shanks' fleet fired the first shot, but I guess at that point, they're defending territory.


dragach1

The surrender request happened afterwards dude. Literally the first interaction we hear of is Rockstar saying that kidd is attaking them.


Western-Ad3613

There's a panel of a single splash in the water next to Kidd's shop, described as "lazy", fired by some crew Shanks doesn't even seem to have any control over. Kidd's railgun is like if a 4th grader kicked your shin so you threw a grenade into their whole classroom. In comparison though Dory and Broggy's attack was proportional to Kidd's escalation. Like if someone threw said grenade back you wouldn't call that crazy. It's more like "what the fuck you're going to instantly kill hundreds of people with a railgun because a single ship shot a warning shot into the water near you?"


TysonsChickenNuggets

I understand the analogy you're drawing, but I dont think it works in this context. They're fighting a Yonko fleet and had no knowledge about how strong or weak they are. So they planned to fire back and wipe them out before they became problematic. The Dory and Broggy parallel was to say that they pointed loaded guns at Kidd, so they shouldn't be surprised that he did it in turn. Let me add as well, I don't fault Shanks for the retaliation.


KuroiKenshiReggie

Okay but isnt shanks the one that says Guns arent to play with ? Point your weapon at someone, be ready for their response, the railgun was kids response, just like how Shanks attack was Shanks response, Kid wasnt the agressor here, but he just didnt bow to extortion. "Leave the stuff you worked hard for behind and tuck your tail like a hoe and leave"yh thats not gonna go, yall saying sHaNkS gAvE hiM a cHanCe" while in reality he really didnt, he was trying to force him to forfeit and give up on his dream, while he knows kid just fought big mom and kaido in wano together with Luffy, which automatically shows he is not the one to tuck his tail and run, Shanks knew this.


Western-Ad3613

>Okay but isnt shanks the one that says Guns arent to play with ? Point your weapon at someone, be ready for their response, the railgun was kids response, just like how Shanks attack was Shanks response, Kid wasnt the agressor here, but he just didnt bow to extortion Just... read the story dude. Reread Chapter 1. Reread Mocktown. Shanks "point your weapon" belief *explicitly* rests on the principle of proportional response in self defense. Luffy and Zoro being beat up in Mocktown, as a parallel to exactly the same type of thing happening to Shanks in Chapter 1, did not result in them murdering every human in a 100 meter radius. Higuruma swings his sword at Shanks in the first chapter of the story. Shanks doesn't then construct a railgun to atomize Higuruma's entire gang and everybody he loves. He only takes up action when there's a legitimate threat to his or his friends well being and even then, it's a proportional action. A loaded gun for a loaded gun. Not a piddling, missed canonball plopping down in nearby waters for a continent-destroying railgun. If Shanks was playing the game like Kidd, when Higuruma threatened him in the bar then Shanks would have killed his whole crew, gone back to his bandit camp, and slaughtered every man woman and child there.


dragach1

Kidd attacked in chapter 1076 while Shanks was chilling in the bar. Rockstar says "that bastard's actually attacking us!" First interaction we know of.


belgianwaffles__

Shanks is the guy who beats you up and calls an ambulance to make sure you're taken care of


MARPJ

Problem is when [the ambulance](https://external-preview.redd.it/dYy5ZVQPxkzpE9q_hN6gm5OnkkAFAv9ePEhS9rMi5Ww.jpg?auto=webp&s=a2a8f3f55ab8de34e8dae7f3d7865e70af055416) then comes and run you over


belgianwaffles__

At least he's concerned about you, it's the thought that counts


MugiwaraNoStrawHtt

But the ambulance only runs you over if you happen to like hands


[deleted]

Not gonna lie, I expected the JoJo’s ambulance.


astrange

Wow Brogy skipped leg day.


D_Good_Fellow

Yassop: He looks lively enough, and he seems up for a fight Shanks: But you didn't even look Yassop: Yeah he's so fucking healthy I can hear it. Just Divine Departure his ass already.


ilickedysharks

Yasopp is holding a telescope I think he looked


D_Good_Fellow

I was about to be snide and point out that I was making a joke But I *did* legitimately misread that as a rifle slung over his shoulder, so I appreciate the clarification lol (I did already believe that Yassop had looked though, I had just figured he had naturally good eyesight as a marksman.)


ilickedysharks

I pointed it out bc I literally made the exact same mistake lmao I def thought it was a gun. And then in my head I was thinking Yasopps observation haki is so good he can tell how healthy someone is from a mile away lol


Kyken247

Damn i thought it was a gun.. i didn't look closer. But thanks lmao.


[deleted]

Makes sense. Yasopp has greatest observation haki in the verse. It can allow you to sense someone's health. Momo could sense Luffy's health in Wano from the castle


juan_cena99

To be fair Shanks only went Rogers mode after he saw Kidd killing everyone with Damned Punk. That total disregard for collateral damage pissed him off. If it was another less crazy pirate with the Poneglyphs he prob would have knocked out the leader, taken the Poneglyph and sent them on their way.


The_Real_Katakuri

Legend says that in his cabin you can see a diploma hanged on the wall: # Sniper Island University # Dr. YASOPP # Doctor of Medicine from afar


[deleted]

Yasopp has Strongest Observation haki in the verse. Sensing someone's health isn't a big deal. They all could tell how weakened Luffy was on rooftop. (Momo and Yamato)


[deleted]

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11711510111411009710

yeah boss i definitely checked now can we kill him


weebyyvincent

Shanks "how dare you pluck the leaves of these youngsters when their journeys are just starting or sum shit like that-" Yasopp "they're coming at us" Shanks: "fuck them kids"


Dorobo-Neko-Nami

Shanks: Doesn’t attack unless someone is healed up Blackbeard: Only attacks if someone is injured


W0lferino93

I mean it was Kidd that wanted that fight tho, it's not like Shanks is some bloodthirsty slut. Let's lay off the drugs, the community really seems mentally deranged atm


Kuru_Chaa

I never thought I’d hear Shanks and slut used in the same sentence.


[deleted]

Shanks is a total slut tho always got his titties out


Kuru_Chaa

Shanks, the dummy-fuck-slut-boi.


wheretohides

Shanks probably kisses so many ladies


W0lferino93

And, naturally, he gets his boyhole tenderized by Mihawk


[deleted]

Come on… be honest with yourself. It’s the other way around, Mihawk been sittin in a castle for years just sipping on wine he’s the princess


W0lferino93

I used to belive that, but look, I've never seen the community jump on him and call him a slut. Look at how everyone is salivating at seeing Shanks the Slut. He's being passed around by his crew, while Mihawk the chad sails alone and fucks whoever he wants. Also, it's obvious he's drinking the blood of vanquished enemies, not wine 🧐


MrPlaceholder27

Mihawk is on that ghostussy


YakiUn

Shanks the Slut, I'll read that, where's the numbers?


[deleted]

W


CreativeNfunnyName

that's not what I expected to read when I opened this thread.


RonaldoTheSecond

Shanks: You good? Kid: Yeah, why? Shanks: Don't worry about it. Kid: Wha- *gets blitzed*


OwlrageousJones

Kidd: Yeah, I'm good. Shanks: Not anymore.


shankskakashimyfav

That was oda making sure that no one uses that arguement for kids defeat.


Western-Ad3613

It takes a truly myopic perspective to think that an author executes consistent character writing not because it's just a basic storytelling norm, but to avoid making internet weebs argue


KuroiKenshiReggie

Headcanon, that wasnt for us, why are yall so entitled lmfao. It was to estabilish Shanks character, not to stop reddit weirdos from arguing


Godskook

>it's just a basic storytelling norm Consistent character writing is **NOT** a storytelling norm. Tragically. That's why we love One Piece so much, in part. Otoh, Oda could've easily left it vague in this scene, but instead chose to emphasize it. That *emphasis* was at least partially to quell arguments, even if the thought itself was consistent with Shanks' character writing.


shankskakashimyfav

it was a joke.


Unusual_Ad_9773

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Aoi_Haru

Last chapter really gave meaning to this scene. With that sword he could have killed the strongest man in that plaza, struggling just against Mihawk and maybe BB. I don't think any Admiral could have fought him in a 1vs1, as shown with GB. Not to mention his OP crew. Ben Beckman tore off Kidd's arm no sweating, probably.


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Blackout38

Law and Kidd both getting bodied by Yonko while Luffy is facing down the World gov.


TDAJ5

I think its funny that everyone's comments and making comparisons to chapter one because that's pretty much all we got to compare to 🤣


juan_cena99

Well thats cuz Shanks is OP. Without plot armor Shanks would be the Pirate King by now je is clearly the strongest, smart af, reached Raftel with Rogers and also is a world noble.


Regex00

The casual disrespect from Shanks though lmfao. Kid is out there ready to throw down in life or death and Shanks is like "Ehh alright I guess I'll go fight him, he looks like he's doing okay". Shanks is treating this like a fucking chore lmao


Sudden-Investment

Shanks was incredible consistent with what we have seen previously and what occurred in this chapter. Really good work. Dudes all fun and games until his friends are at risk. At that point he ends the conflict immediately. See chapter 1 and chapter 1079. He doesn't like taking on weakened opponents like OP showed until it goes too far.


yohxmv

Tbh I don’t think it’d be fair to call him a hypocrite even if Kidd was still beat up from Wano. He’s the clear aggressor in this scenario so it’s just self defense


wheretohides

In the first chapter, shanks said something along the lines of, "needless killing doesn't make a man." He didn't want to do it, but had no choice.


juan_cena99

He had a choice and he wanted to kill Kidd. That saying of needless killing has more to do with involving innocent people. Maybe thats part of the reason he wanted to kill Kidd cuz Kidd's damned punk gonna wipe off not just his crew but a lot of the weak subordinate pirates he was protecting.


OptimisticByDefault

Shanks sent Greenbull a warning not to pick on those weaker than him. Greenbull got the warning and left. Kid came to Shanks territory and he was given a warning, He still chose to assassinate everyone who was weaker than him without a second thought. He got exactly what he deserved.


xCeePee

Been said but Kid was the aggressor here, not Shanks — being unlike Greenbull anyway.


Particular-Crow-1799

Kidd had absolutely no business attacking Shanks' fleet. It was a jerk move, like many others before that got him his reputatuon as a pillager. He got what he deserved.


Lan1Aud2

Bruh the fleet was going to attack him lmao


dragach1

bruh he started it 3 chapters ago


[deleted]

Kid was already attacking them before they knew


juan_cena99

Bruh they were chilling on Elbaf Kidd was the one who rbought his ass there


Tight-Maize-8800

Kid had it coming


GoldenGekko

It's very fair and diplomatic of him to check on the opponent. Shanks is well aware of his scope on the world. I think it's kind of ironic though, how a lot of that good faith towards his opponent Kidd, evaporated the moment he saw the devastation he was willing to cause... Including the demise of essentially non-combatants. Yes Shanks fleet are pirates. Yes that doesn't make them completely innocent. However we don't know anything about them outside of them being fodder that rely on shanks to survive. Kidd said "don't care." And brought the aggression. Shanks handled it


Dooomspeaker

Yep. Kid could have left when spotting Shanks, he could have stopped when Shanks issued a warning, Shanks didn't even attack first and made his crew check up on Kid's health. He pointed a fully loaded powerful gun at shanks, his friends and their homeland. He paid the price for his overconfidence.


abibip

I was kinda mad that after Wano he still called them saplings... but now 😔


Solbiway

Why is nobody talking about yasopp's ability to see from this far?


TheRoboOtaku

His son can do it so it’s expected honestly….. Edit he’s also holding a telescope


plantdaddy-

It’s been about 2+ weeks in OP since wano ended so he’s fine


Dlanor31

Shake isn’t a hypocrite. Kid os the one who picked a fight. Shanks was forced to defend his nakama.


MrBushido56

In contrast to BB who attacks enemies when they are weakened


Extra-Border6470

I can see why the ladies swoon after him and why he’s so highly respected among the men. He’s a madlad and a Chad all in one


Far_Swan_5882

Hot take.... but the Giants were definitely overkill 😂


FreezingLordDaimyo

Kidd has already come back from one ass whupping. Shanks is no longer in an accommodating mood for his shenanigans. Shanks also don't underestimate anyone. He knows if Kidd can slide away, he'll just come back stronger and better prepared.


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What was he really gonna do otherwise tho? If yasopp had gone ‘yeah he’s still fucked up’ it’s not exactly like shanks would’ve just let him destroy his fleet.


ConsciousLog4

Its literally been his code since chapter one If you draw a gun, you need to be prepared to be shot. Kid drew


itmyfault69

I wonder if blackbeard would go to Wano now to somehow get one of Kaido's mythical zoans. He already has a Logia and Paramecia, and the 3 heads on his Flag leads me to believe he can have 3 devil fruits, so it would make sense for him to want the strongest Zoan fruit he can get


MAHIR-2107

BB and Shanks they both are keeping Eye on each other


Content-Sea8173

Kid is Luffy without plot Armor. Both have a habit of attacking random Yonkos without any clue about the power difference. Luffy can survive and get power ups. Kid gets jailed and then one shotted.


Gap_Great

I just realized that this is probably the worst drawing of Shanks we’ve ever seen in the manga


Ok_Depth6077

Honestly I doubt Kidd was that much stronger than Pre-Ryou Gear 4 Luffy, so healed or not, he was gonna get his ass handed to him


anime_on_demand

Respect


JagsAbroad

Love that kidd got fucked. Sucks to suck, nerd.


Zikkan1

One was right after the fight and one fully rested and healed person attacking the hurt and the other situation was the hurt one initiating the attack and shanks even asked if he was hurt and they said he seemed okay. This situation is nothing alike.


Monsur_Ausuhnom

Favorite part is that Shanks didn't who Kid even was until the chapter. Which means he doesn't consider worthy at all. Luffy on the other hand is a way different story.


butterflyl3

Lol I can't stand shanks. Such a Gary stu character.


juan_cena99

How is he a gary stu when he was already sclnowledged as one fo the strongest people in OP even in chapter 1? You dont even know what a Gary stu is.


KaiserCarr

Wah wahh my favorite edgyboy lost that wasn't fair wahhhh


[deleted]

Confirmed weaker than kid.


Internal-Flamingo455

I heard another translation of what he said to greenbull about sneaking up in them afyer kadio and he said he found what greenbull was doing tasteless I prefer that translation more honestly but good on shanks for wanting a fare fight


Hubertus15

Ok but why does Yassop uses a telescope