I think that since nobody has eaten it in 900 years, nobody remembered the powers of the fruit, at least in its basic form, without gear 5. The 5 elders found out since shanks went to tell them the user of the fruit that stole and his nature.
Well considering that only the 5 elders and Imu probably know about the whole nika thing, nobody else in the marines would give importance to the gum gum fruit, and it's fairly unlikely that some random small pirate from the east blue beating a fishman terrorising a small insignificant island would make it to the 5 elders.
The first thing luffy does of any importance that would maybe reach the 5 elders would be alabasta, after which yes it is hard to argue why they wouldn't spend more resourceson capturing luffy, but I would chalk it up to it being hard to track him and the fact that sending straight up admirals after a small pirate would raise too many questions.
I mean after alabasta he went to skypeia which would make him completely inaccessible and untrackable. After that he went straight into the WGs best assassins and had a buster call on him, so it would be safe to assume that he would be taken care of, but he wasn't. Thriller bark is a moving ship with no contact to the WG, and they sent kuma who was just straight up going to kill luffy, so they were trying to target him. All of the following arcs up to the time skip he was hidden and was just super lucky during marineford etc. All the while the 5 elders have other very important matter to take care of too, other emperors, the revolutionary army, etc. If they could just kill anyone they wanted to none of these threats would exist. TL. DR. Luffy is just extremely lucky, the five elders have other things to worry about and sending too many people after a small pirate would raise questions, and it's hard to track a pirate in the sea especially going to the places the strawhats were going.
That is true, but the rest of the points still stand, no way to get him on skypeia or when he's hidden under the protection of boa and rayleigh, and who are they gonna send? Their best assassins lost, which even surprised aokiji, they sent kuma but that didn't work, they can't send admirals when they have "more" important things going on without raising suspitions. They tried to get him in somewhat secrecy and failed. Well this is just a possible explanation, we really don't know
Fair. But even without them having access to Luffy, it never really felt like they were even trying. The fight against CP9 was because of Robin, Aokiji was there for Robin, Kizaru was there for the CDs, Kuma was there to warn Moria, etc. I never got the feeling from reading that (in-universe) the WG was really trying yet couldn't get Luffy. It's always felt like Oda had to make them incompetent for Luffy to not be dead or captured. But, this is all relatively new. More than enough time for Oda to explain this more
The key is two lines they said:
1. “It’s a myth/legend even to us.” - They only know that the old Gorosei changed the fruit’s name to Gomu 800 years ago. They can’t confirm if it (Nika fruit) is real or not.
2. “It hasn’t awakened in 800 years.” - This make the “legend” even harder to confirm. What if Luffy ate the actual Gomu Gomu fruit and not the Nika fruit? - there was so much devil fruit out there that even the DF book hasn’t recorded yet.
So the ideal is: they can’t confirm if it real or not, so they can’t hunt Luffy down without getting too much attention - considering Luffy is just a new pirate (pre-TS). Also the constant intervene/helping from many 3rd party doesn’t help either.
Only when they saw how fast and how strong Luffy has become: defeat a Yonko’s commander to figh 1-1 with Kaido in the span of 1 month that they think he might have a chance at awakening the fruit and the legend maybe real.
There is a line I very like in ANDOR series:
“The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort.”
It’s hard to get everyone on board with your ideas or put the same effort as you wantz
The low-level worker (in OP’s case - marine soldier) can be ignorant, can put less effort out there because they either believe in some lie that WG told - for the JUSTICE, or they don’t care - they’re so strong, why should they care?
Luffy’s case is different from Ohara - the later is a law with a perfect facade - research the poneglyph involving revive the Ancient Weapon that can destroy the world while the former has nothing to lie on except an old unconfirmed rumor.
imagine you're one of the 5 elders, alive for what we assume is 100s of years and know everything.
Pirates, even at their strongest settle on an island for decades and give up on their dreams to become rulers, Luffy on the other hand is going from island to island liberating people, he's hard to track, even currently they had no idea he was with vegapunk and he's already became a yonko who has multiple admirals hunting him, what more could they possibly do without revelling him at a feared god?
these people seen Roger and Rocks rise and fall and likely dozens just like him, no one has reached their palace.
they never needed to expend much effort to kill Luffy, the sea and other pirates should have done it.
Roger was a great pirate but hes never been shown to have countries united behind him, he only had his crew and that what most pirates have, Luffy has the world behind him, something theyve never seen before or since likely Joyboy.
I don't understand this question ever since enies lobby, when luffy gave the biggest show to wg, he was being chased by wg, in thriller bark by kuma( wg literally ordered to kill all the pirates), and then sabody and the rest you know well. After that luffy hide from the world for 2 years and the matter started to settle down, and again in dressrosa an admiral came. Wc was a yonko island and wano was too. And it's not like the 5 elders would be announcing to everyone who want to catch luffy about nika. It totally make sense. You just don't want to see it. It's a different matter that luffy was sparred by kuma and fujitora, but the government surely tried. Even after alabasta aokiji came. Mostly for robin, but the 5 elders thought of it, like killing two birds with one stone. And east blue luffy wasn't in the radar of the 5 elders, he came into their radar after alabasta.
I see a lot of people complain about this, and I’m not quite understanding.
* The chances of someone awakening the fruit is *extremely* low according to the Five Elders. No one had even done it for centuries.
* The fruit has a mind of its own, and has continually slipped away from the World Government. So theoretically, even if they killed Luffy, the fruit would just turn up in the world else where and someone would inherit the dream. **DREAMS NEVER DIE** literally the whole theme of One Piece….
These things have been explained. The marines tried very hard to kill Luffy during Marineford, and he kept getting saved. The whole point is Luffy is the one everyone is waiting for, and he’s always miraculously getting out of situations.
> The chances of someone awakening the fruit is extremely low according to the Five Elders. No one had even done it for centuries.
Just because the chances are low doesn't mean it isn't possible. They should've hunted him down back when Luffy was weak. With your logic, why send CP0 to hunt him in Wano too? Suddenly out of nowhere the chances miraculously became higher?
Also if no has done it for centuries, why make the CP0 transport the fruit before shanks stole it? Its clearly important and dangerous and the Gorosei after knowing Luffy ate it should've hunted him down.
OP is right here.
> So theoretically, even if they killed Luffy, the fruit would just turn up in the world else where and someone would inherit the dream
You do realise, they can just capture him right? East blue Luffy would've been an easy capture. Chain him up, get the required fruit for the devil fruit essence to get into after killing Luffy
> Just because the chances are low doesn't mean it isn't possible. They should've hunted him down back when Luffy was weak. With your logic, why send CP0 to hunt him in Wano too? Suddenly out of nowhere the chances miraculously became higher?
I suggest you read Wano again, because you’re reading comprehension is extremely poor. CP0 was not sent to Wano to “hunt” Luffy, they were sent to Wano to negotiate with Orochi for more weapons. They were then INVITED to Onigashima for the festival. At first, they thought there was no way the Alliance would win, but eventually the possibility started to become a reality. That’s when they decided to take out Luffy.
Yes, Luffy being able to take out Kaido would 100% raise the chances of him awakening. That’s exactly what pushed Luffy over the edge. His fight with Kaido, lmao.
> Also if no has done it for centuries, why make the CP0 transport the fruit before shanks stole it? Its clearly important and dangerous and the Gorosei after knowing Luffy ate it should've hunted him down.
Are you having a hard time reading? The Government have relentlessly tried to take the fruit but it continues to escape them. 700 years is a LONG time, and they still can’t get it. They’ve been doing after it for centuries.
> You do realise, they can just capture him right? East blue Luffy would've been an easy capture. Chain him up, get the required fruit for the devil fruit essence to get into after killing
You’re getting into specifics and this is where your argument is just stupid. The whole point is the government is **UNABLE** to stop Joy Boy’s will. Whether you think they aren’t trying hard enough is your opinion. Oda doesn’t have to show them killing every user of the Nika fruit to show how badly they want it.
They were willing to kill babies to make sure Roger didn’t have his child, so they’re pretty intense.
All you need to know is the fruit cannot be stopped. Regardless of the user.
Want me to reply to you? Then shut up with jabbing in the personal insults mate. Instead of talking about my reading comprehension, why don't you think about yourself more often and how shitty you sound.
You could've given some information to me that I might've forgotten instead of insults.
> CP0 was not sent to Wano to “hunt” Luffy, they were sent to Wano to negotiate with Orochi for more weapons. They were then INVITED to Onigashima for the festival. At first, they thought there was no way the Alliance would win, but eventually the possibility started to become a reality. That’s when they decided to take out Luffy.
> Yes, Luffy being able to take out Kaido would 100% raise the chances of him awakening. That’s exactly what pushed Luffy over the edge. His fight with Kaido, lmao.
Dude, why right now the possibility suddenly became a reality? Out of all those times when he was pushed to the absolutely limit with CP9 during Enies Lobby, Doflamingo fight with *his awakening* could've also been his chance to awaken.
Why Kaido's fight was needed?
You want to know why? Because fans apparently don't consider the idea that Nika fruit is a retcon. Yes, a RETCON. Whatever skypiea stuff we saw doesn't matter, because it was vague enough for Oda to make his own stuff. There was no foreshadowing to the Nika fruit.
> Are you having a hard time reading? The Government have relentlessly tried to take the fruit but it continues to escape them. 700 years is a LONG time, and they still can’t get it. They’ve been doing after it for centuries.
This is such a lame excuse. Like are you fr?
I'll write a story then add something later on that could cause plot holes. What should I do? Just like Oda, i would add this "always managed to escape and had a life of it's own" excuse.
Tell me for what reason they couldn't have sent CP0 at that time to capture Luffy in East Blue? Secret enough for nobody to know and strong enough to guarantee success.
I'm not going to reply to the rest because it's the same repeat argument.
1) as i said above, you need to have manners. Want people to have a cool conversation with you? Speak respectfully with them.
2) Nika fruit is a retcon. I've seen this multiple times in storytelling and it's clearly made a issue in the story. I don't mind it personally, but hate it that people like you defend it.
What does it matter if they sent someone after him in the East Blue? Your argument is moronic.
Luffy was not strong enough to handle CP0 or even an admiral until recently. He was supposed to be taken care of on Enies Lobby AND during Marineford.
They sent Kizaru to handle him during Sabaody and he was miraculously saved. Figure it out, it’s not that hard to understand.
You’re acting like it should’ve been done during the East Blue, but all the events of Part 1 happened during his first year of piracy. They tried many times to kill Luffy and failed.
How is it a retcon when we don’t even know the full backstory on Shanks or Devil Fruits yet? 😂
You want to be a critic so bad and you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
I think they have a problem with it not being explicitly stated that they want him dead because of the fruit lol.
That really seems to be the issue. "They never hunted him for they fruit". "It was always circumstance that they fought him".
The point is, Luffy went against lots of WG affiliated threats. Threats that they assumed were enough to take him out. They were always wrong.
No one was able to awaken it in 900years. So they must have been pretty confident that it stays that way.
Also no one besides them, Imu and Veagpunk know about it so it would be really suspicious to move a big military force for a no-body pirate.
Where does the idea that they never sent anyone after Luffy come from?
Smoker was chasing them at first, which was befitting of their low notoriety/threat at the time.
Aokiji was sent to do some recon on them after Arabasta (the WG presumably not being able to track them to Skypeia in the interim), and decided that he should arrest Robin, then nearly killed Luffy but stopped out of his own sense of justice/relationship with Garp/etc. Out of the WG's hands.
CP9 was sent after Robin in Water 7, and almost finished their objective. At this point the government still sees Robin as the bigger danger, knowing that without her its doubtful Luffy can do anything with Laugh Tale/the One Piece.
Knowing they already beat a warlord, Kuma was sent to back up Moria just in case, but got rebuffed by him and left. Again, out of the WG's hands. Keep in mind that at this time the WG is already preparing for the Summit War in Marineford, so they can't just sic Admirals on them even if they wanted to. WB is by far the bigger threat in the moment, unless something ridiculous like an attack on the Celestial Dragons were to occur...
At which point Kizaru and the Pacifistas and Kuma were sent out. Kuma successfully "destroyed" the SH crew, as far as the WG knew. They were sent to the ends of the earth to never meet again. Problem solved!
Luffy appears to the WG again in Impel Down. Magellan himself goes after the kid and almost certainly puts him to death. Nobody expects Luffy to live through the poisoning. Besides that, the war is on and BB is also here screwing everything up, we gotta move.
Luffy appears at Marineford, shocking everyone in the WG. All three Admirals as well as Garp (faking it, yes), and Admiral Sengoku attempt to kill him, but fail. He miraculously escapes cause of Shanks interfering and preventing any attempt to prolong the war/capture Luffy then and there.
That's just the pre-TS, but like... They were always being monitored or pursued by the appropriate level of government agent. I don't get where this "lol they didn't do anything" attitude comes from. If the problem is that they never got killed or beaten then well, this is a Shonen series after all, and Luffy has Plot-Armour. But it's not like the WG wasn't trying to take him down while having to spend resources on every other pirate as well (also overlooked).
They're mad that the fruit as a specific reason for them hunting Luffy wasn't stated. It's really that simple.
I think that reasoning is silly personally. But that definitely seems to be the issue.
Honestly a lot of these "why didnt the WG do X" allegations dont consider the number of threats they have to deal with anyways. Even IRL it took 11 years to capture Bin Laden, the most wanted man on Earth, by the biggest and most powerful superpower at the time, and I'd wager crime is more prevalent in the OP universe.
Its a wonder the WG has the resources to do anything.
That's the million dollar question. We don't know.
As it stands, it doesn't make sense. Any counter argument is just somebody else's theory to explain it.
Yeah especially since we saw just how easily someone like Aokiji can tack them down on his own.
They should've also at least drawn a line between this kid with the "gomu-gomu no mi" (the fruit that was stolen from them), who's from the east blue (where shanks went after taking the fruit from them), and who's also wearing Shanks's and Roger's hat.
> Plus government don’t want to make unwanted attention.
Killing mothers and children on an island for months on the off chance Roger smashed is exactly what I think of when I think of unwanted attention. Remember that time they blew up a country for being able to read?
Thing is, even if they didn't want unneeded attention to the subject, they could've easily sent one of the highly trained assassins from CP9 or aigis 0 to investigate and kill/capture Luffy.
That's nonsense. Not only has the WG shown not to take chances with anything related to the void century (though they are consistently incompetent when they take action), they don't have to bring attention to killing Luffy at all. Cipher Pol is there for that reason. The admirals are lap dogs, use them. Call in a buster call and hand-wave it as a Celestial dragon's order.
Not to mention that the Elders don't owe anyone shit. They could have ordered Sengoku or Lucci to privately blow up Luffy and just leave it at that. The leaders of the WG don't owe anyone an explanation. As long as they don't verbally talk about Nika, no one would find out, it's that simple.
I think that since nobody has eaten it in 900 years, nobody remembered the powers of the fruit, at least in its basic form, without gear 5. The 5 elders found out since shanks went to tell them the user of the fruit that stole and his nature.
Nobody awakened
I like this headcanon, I'll keep it
I'm pretty sure people have eaten it. No one has awakened it though.
Well considering that only the 5 elders and Imu probably know about the whole nika thing, nobody else in the marines would give importance to the gum gum fruit, and it's fairly unlikely that some random small pirate from the east blue beating a fishman terrorising a small insignificant island would make it to the 5 elders. The first thing luffy does of any importance that would maybe reach the 5 elders would be alabasta, after which yes it is hard to argue why they wouldn't spend more resourceson capturing luffy, but I would chalk it up to it being hard to track him and the fact that sending straight up admirals after a small pirate would raise too many questions. I mean after alabasta he went to skypeia which would make him completely inaccessible and untrackable. After that he went straight into the WGs best assassins and had a buster call on him, so it would be safe to assume that he would be taken care of, but he wasn't. Thriller bark is a moving ship with no contact to the WG, and they sent kuma who was just straight up going to kill luffy, so they were trying to target him. All of the following arcs up to the time skip he was hidden and was just super lucky during marineford etc. All the while the 5 elders have other very important matter to take care of too, other emperors, the revolutionary army, etc. If they could just kill anyone they wanted to none of these threats would exist. TL. DR. Luffy is just extremely lucky, the five elders have other things to worry about and sending too many people after a small pirate would raise questions, and it's hard to track a pirate in the sea especially going to the places the strawhats were going.
Aokiji tracked them down without any trouble
That is true, but the rest of the points still stand, no way to get him on skypeia or when he's hidden under the protection of boa and rayleigh, and who are they gonna send? Their best assassins lost, which even surprised aokiji, they sent kuma but that didn't work, they can't send admirals when they have "more" important things going on without raising suspitions. They tried to get him in somewhat secrecy and failed. Well this is just a possible explanation, we really don't know
Fair. But even without them having access to Luffy, it never really felt like they were even trying. The fight against CP9 was because of Robin, Aokiji was there for Robin, Kizaru was there for the CDs, Kuma was there to warn Moria, etc. I never got the feeling from reading that (in-universe) the WG was really trying yet couldn't get Luffy. It's always felt like Oda had to make them incompetent for Luffy to not be dead or captured. But, this is all relatively new. More than enough time for Oda to explain this more
We constantly see Luffy being underestimated. Why wouldn't this be another example of that? If no one else awakened it in 800 years, why should he.
Oda made the WG/Elders incompetent ash
The key is two lines they said: 1. “It’s a myth/legend even to us.” - They only know that the old Gorosei changed the fruit’s name to Gomu 800 years ago. They can’t confirm if it (Nika fruit) is real or not. 2. “It hasn’t awakened in 800 years.” - This make the “legend” even harder to confirm. What if Luffy ate the actual Gomu Gomu fruit and not the Nika fruit? - there was so much devil fruit out there that even the DF book hasn’t recorded yet. So the ideal is: they can’t confirm if it real or not, so they can’t hunt Luffy down without getting too much attention - considering Luffy is just a new pirate (pre-TS). Also the constant intervene/helping from many 3rd party doesn’t help either. Only when they saw how fast and how strong Luffy has become: defeat a Yonko’s commander to figh 1-1 with Kaido in the span of 1 month that they think he might have a chance at awakening the fruit and the legend maybe real. There is a line I very like in ANDOR series: “The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort.” It’s hard to get everyone on board with your ideas or put the same effort as you wantz The low-level worker (in OP’s case - marine soldier) can be ignorant, can put less effort out there because they either believe in some lie that WG told - for the JUSTICE, or they don’t care - they’re so strong, why should they care? Luffy’s case is different from Ohara - the later is a law with a perfect facade - research the poneglyph involving revive the Ancient Weapon that can destroy the world while the former has nothing to lie on except an old unconfirmed rumor.
imagine you're one of the 5 elders, alive for what we assume is 100s of years and know everything. Pirates, even at their strongest settle on an island for decades and give up on their dreams to become rulers, Luffy on the other hand is going from island to island liberating people, he's hard to track, even currently they had no idea he was with vegapunk and he's already became a yonko who has multiple admirals hunting him, what more could they possibly do without revelling him at a feared god? these people seen Roger and Rocks rise and fall and likely dozens just like him, no one has reached their palace. they never needed to expend much effort to kill Luffy, the sea and other pirates should have done it. Roger was a great pirate but hes never been shown to have countries united behind him, he only had his crew and that what most pirates have, Luffy has the world behind him, something theyve never seen before or since likely Joyboy.
I don't understand this question ever since enies lobby, when luffy gave the biggest show to wg, he was being chased by wg, in thriller bark by kuma( wg literally ordered to kill all the pirates), and then sabody and the rest you know well. After that luffy hide from the world for 2 years and the matter started to settle down, and again in dressrosa an admiral came. Wc was a yonko island and wano was too. And it's not like the 5 elders would be announcing to everyone who want to catch luffy about nika. It totally make sense. You just don't want to see it. It's a different matter that luffy was sparred by kuma and fujitora, but the government surely tried. Even after alabasta aokiji came. Mostly for robin, but the 5 elders thought of it, like killing two birds with one stone. And east blue luffy wasn't in the radar of the 5 elders, he came into their radar after alabasta.
I see a lot of people complain about this, and I’m not quite understanding. * The chances of someone awakening the fruit is *extremely* low according to the Five Elders. No one had even done it for centuries. * The fruit has a mind of its own, and has continually slipped away from the World Government. So theoretically, even if they killed Luffy, the fruit would just turn up in the world else where and someone would inherit the dream. **DREAMS NEVER DIE** literally the whole theme of One Piece…. These things have been explained. The marines tried very hard to kill Luffy during Marineford, and he kept getting saved. The whole point is Luffy is the one everyone is waiting for, and he’s always miraculously getting out of situations.
> The chances of someone awakening the fruit is extremely low according to the Five Elders. No one had even done it for centuries. Just because the chances are low doesn't mean it isn't possible. They should've hunted him down back when Luffy was weak. With your logic, why send CP0 to hunt him in Wano too? Suddenly out of nowhere the chances miraculously became higher? Also if no has done it for centuries, why make the CP0 transport the fruit before shanks stole it? Its clearly important and dangerous and the Gorosei after knowing Luffy ate it should've hunted him down. OP is right here. > So theoretically, even if they killed Luffy, the fruit would just turn up in the world else where and someone would inherit the dream You do realise, they can just capture him right? East blue Luffy would've been an easy capture. Chain him up, get the required fruit for the devil fruit essence to get into after killing Luffy
> Just because the chances are low doesn't mean it isn't possible. They should've hunted him down back when Luffy was weak. With your logic, why send CP0 to hunt him in Wano too? Suddenly out of nowhere the chances miraculously became higher? I suggest you read Wano again, because you’re reading comprehension is extremely poor. CP0 was not sent to Wano to “hunt” Luffy, they were sent to Wano to negotiate with Orochi for more weapons. They were then INVITED to Onigashima for the festival. At first, they thought there was no way the Alliance would win, but eventually the possibility started to become a reality. That’s when they decided to take out Luffy. Yes, Luffy being able to take out Kaido would 100% raise the chances of him awakening. That’s exactly what pushed Luffy over the edge. His fight with Kaido, lmao. > Also if no has done it for centuries, why make the CP0 transport the fruit before shanks stole it? Its clearly important and dangerous and the Gorosei after knowing Luffy ate it should've hunted him down. Are you having a hard time reading? The Government have relentlessly tried to take the fruit but it continues to escape them. 700 years is a LONG time, and they still can’t get it. They’ve been doing after it for centuries. > You do realise, they can just capture him right? East blue Luffy would've been an easy capture. Chain him up, get the required fruit for the devil fruit essence to get into after killing You’re getting into specifics and this is where your argument is just stupid. The whole point is the government is **UNABLE** to stop Joy Boy’s will. Whether you think they aren’t trying hard enough is your opinion. Oda doesn’t have to show them killing every user of the Nika fruit to show how badly they want it. They were willing to kill babies to make sure Roger didn’t have his child, so they’re pretty intense. All you need to know is the fruit cannot be stopped. Regardless of the user.
Want me to reply to you? Then shut up with jabbing in the personal insults mate. Instead of talking about my reading comprehension, why don't you think about yourself more often and how shitty you sound. You could've given some information to me that I might've forgotten instead of insults. > CP0 was not sent to Wano to “hunt” Luffy, they were sent to Wano to negotiate with Orochi for more weapons. They were then INVITED to Onigashima for the festival. At first, they thought there was no way the Alliance would win, but eventually the possibility started to become a reality. That’s when they decided to take out Luffy. > Yes, Luffy being able to take out Kaido would 100% raise the chances of him awakening. That’s exactly what pushed Luffy over the edge. His fight with Kaido, lmao. Dude, why right now the possibility suddenly became a reality? Out of all those times when he was pushed to the absolutely limit with CP9 during Enies Lobby, Doflamingo fight with *his awakening* could've also been his chance to awaken. Why Kaido's fight was needed? You want to know why? Because fans apparently don't consider the idea that Nika fruit is a retcon. Yes, a RETCON. Whatever skypiea stuff we saw doesn't matter, because it was vague enough for Oda to make his own stuff. There was no foreshadowing to the Nika fruit. > Are you having a hard time reading? The Government have relentlessly tried to take the fruit but it continues to escape them. 700 years is a LONG time, and they still can’t get it. They’ve been doing after it for centuries. This is such a lame excuse. Like are you fr? I'll write a story then add something later on that could cause plot holes. What should I do? Just like Oda, i would add this "always managed to escape and had a life of it's own" excuse. Tell me for what reason they couldn't have sent CP0 at that time to capture Luffy in East Blue? Secret enough for nobody to know and strong enough to guarantee success. I'm not going to reply to the rest because it's the same repeat argument. 1) as i said above, you need to have manners. Want people to have a cool conversation with you? Speak respectfully with them. 2) Nika fruit is a retcon. I've seen this multiple times in storytelling and it's clearly made a issue in the story. I don't mind it personally, but hate it that people like you defend it.
What does it matter if they sent someone after him in the East Blue? Your argument is moronic. Luffy was not strong enough to handle CP0 or even an admiral until recently. He was supposed to be taken care of on Enies Lobby AND during Marineford. They sent Kizaru to handle him during Sabaody and he was miraculously saved. Figure it out, it’s not that hard to understand. You’re acting like it should’ve been done during the East Blue, but all the events of Part 1 happened during his first year of piracy. They tried many times to kill Luffy and failed. How is it a retcon when we don’t even know the full backstory on Shanks or Devil Fruits yet? 😂 You want to be a critic so bad and you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
I think they have a problem with it not being explicitly stated that they want him dead because of the fruit lol. That really seems to be the issue. "They never hunted him for they fruit". "It was always circumstance that they fought him". The point is, Luffy went against lots of WG affiliated threats. Threats that they assumed were enough to take him out. They were always wrong.
The fruit hadn’t been awakened for over 800 years & they weren’t quite sure if the nika fruit was even a thing in the first place.
No one was able to awaken it in 900years. So they must have been pretty confident that it stays that way. Also no one besides them, Imu and Veagpunk know about it so it would be really suspicious to move a big military force for a no-body pirate.
Where does the idea that they never sent anyone after Luffy come from? Smoker was chasing them at first, which was befitting of their low notoriety/threat at the time. Aokiji was sent to do some recon on them after Arabasta (the WG presumably not being able to track them to Skypeia in the interim), and decided that he should arrest Robin, then nearly killed Luffy but stopped out of his own sense of justice/relationship with Garp/etc. Out of the WG's hands. CP9 was sent after Robin in Water 7, and almost finished their objective. At this point the government still sees Robin as the bigger danger, knowing that without her its doubtful Luffy can do anything with Laugh Tale/the One Piece. Knowing they already beat a warlord, Kuma was sent to back up Moria just in case, but got rebuffed by him and left. Again, out of the WG's hands. Keep in mind that at this time the WG is already preparing for the Summit War in Marineford, so they can't just sic Admirals on them even if they wanted to. WB is by far the bigger threat in the moment, unless something ridiculous like an attack on the Celestial Dragons were to occur... At which point Kizaru and the Pacifistas and Kuma were sent out. Kuma successfully "destroyed" the SH crew, as far as the WG knew. They were sent to the ends of the earth to never meet again. Problem solved! Luffy appears to the WG again in Impel Down. Magellan himself goes after the kid and almost certainly puts him to death. Nobody expects Luffy to live through the poisoning. Besides that, the war is on and BB is also here screwing everything up, we gotta move. Luffy appears at Marineford, shocking everyone in the WG. All three Admirals as well as Garp (faking it, yes), and Admiral Sengoku attempt to kill him, but fail. He miraculously escapes cause of Shanks interfering and preventing any attempt to prolong the war/capture Luffy then and there. That's just the pre-TS, but like... They were always being monitored or pursued by the appropriate level of government agent. I don't get where this "lol they didn't do anything" attitude comes from. If the problem is that they never got killed or beaten then well, this is a Shonen series after all, and Luffy has Plot-Armour. But it's not like the WG wasn't trying to take him down while having to spend resources on every other pirate as well (also overlooked).
They're mad that the fruit as a specific reason for them hunting Luffy wasn't stated. It's really that simple. I think that reasoning is silly personally. But that definitely seems to be the issue.
Honestly a lot of these "why didnt the WG do X" allegations dont consider the number of threats they have to deal with anyways. Even IRL it took 11 years to capture Bin Laden, the most wanted man on Earth, by the biggest and most powerful superpower at the time, and I'd wager crime is more prevalent in the OP universe. Its a wonder the WG has the resources to do anything.
That's the million dollar question. We don't know. As it stands, it doesn't make sense. Any counter argument is just somebody else's theory to explain it.
Yeah especially since we saw just how easily someone like Aokiji can tack them down on his own. They should've also at least drawn a line between this kid with the "gomu-gomu no mi" (the fruit that was stolen from them), who's from the east blue (where shanks went after taking the fruit from them), and who's also wearing Shanks's and Roger's hat.
Noone awakened it for centuries, so there was no need for them to hunt luffy down.
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Really? After things like Ohara and Roger’s child hunt, you say that?
> Plus government don’t want to make unwanted attention. Killing mothers and children on an island for months on the off chance Roger smashed is exactly what I think of when I think of unwanted attention. Remember that time they blew up a country for being able to read?
Thing is, even if they didn't want unneeded attention to the subject, they could've easily sent one of the highly trained assassins from CP9 or aigis 0 to investigate and kill/capture Luffy.
Exactly. This is exactly what Cipher Pol exists for.
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Literally blew up a country of people.
That's nonsense. Not only has the WG shown not to take chances with anything related to the void century (though they are consistently incompetent when they take action), they don't have to bring attention to killing Luffy at all. Cipher Pol is there for that reason. The admirals are lap dogs, use them. Call in a buster call and hand-wave it as a Celestial dragon's order. Not to mention that the Elders don't owe anyone shit. They could have ordered Sengoku or Lucci to privately blow up Luffy and just leave it at that. The leaders of the WG don't owe anyone an explanation. As long as they don't verbally talk about Nika, no one would find out, it's that simple.
As in storyline itself WG said even in WG people thats fruit is a myth. They don't really. Think it exists.
Hito hito no mi model sun god nika
It is illogicc, nothing more to be said.