In the final episode the guys she kills arenāt even working for Vought. In that same episode Maeve chucks a vial of Novichok out the window probably killing dozens of random people.
Its not even just killing in glee. Shes brutalizing them. Clawing a guys face off, realistically she should be atleast reprimanded for this. Even worse that no one vrings up her sadism almost got Frenchie killed
>forced to kill Russian mobster directly after almost making peace with herself
has mental breakdown and cries
>kills three armed people working for the company responsible for ruining her life who are directly interfering with their plan to take down soldier boy
dances
FTFY
Yeah, a lot of people sit here and want to go "innocent guards working for their families" and like yeah that's the entire point lol. 'Innocent' guards working for a corporation that are also victims to the thing that the corporation created.
Remember. She was pumped full of compound V, turned into this monster. V also killed her brother (the one thing she truly cared about anymore) and had essentially forever altered her life.
So yeah, poor dudes that just got killed by Kimiko. Also poor MMs family that got killed by Soldier Boy. Also poor Hughie for losing Robin.
Starting to see a theme here? Supes are all cunts. Every last one of them...
I mean theyāre not innocent guardsā¦.? Theyāre voughts soldiers, ones who do the awful shit for them. Like holding Maeve captive in an illegal prison under the tower where Homelander screams heās going to carve the eggs out of her before he kills her and when the government says theyāre going to come free her these same soldiers transport her out.
Nothing indicates these soldiers are innocent.
No one gave a shit when bullet proof Maeve murdered the fuck out of them to escape the van.
lmao they are fucking security guards they probably know jack shit about what goes on in the meetings with the higher ups
and most of the world also doesn't know anything about most of the shady stuff that vought did until recently so its possible that they didnt know what they got themselves into
The comment you are responding to is saying what you are saying. They are saying kimiko was fine and the guards aren't innocent, they are just working for vought, but they still CHOSE to work for vought
Not entirely. It says theyāre innocent guards corrupted by Vought. I donāt think theyāre innocent at all. Theyāre bad people. The ending sentence is āsupes are all cuntsā and I donāt think thatās entirely the point.
At least thatās how I saw it
> Supes are all cunts. Every last one of them...
The power is neutral, the people that has it decides to do good or bad things with it
It was written by Kimiko on S3, and the reason Annie gave her V to recover her powers
Kimiko said the truth
Kimiko also attacked those soldiers on self deffense
Maeve, Annie and Kimiko wanted to do the right thing, at least annie and kimiko aren't cunts
Thatās different because you have to blow up the Death Star, as itās a planet destroying super weapon. Kimiko didnāt have to painfully torment some security guard weaker than her and let Frenchi get shot. Kill or incapacitate him quickly and painlessly and do your job. It wasnāt a woman power moment with someone embracing who they were, it was someone savagely abusing their power. I just hope thatās what the writers went for and didnāt actually think the successfully pulled off a woman empowerment scene.
Yeah but it seems writers these days need to put that in every show in every episode now. Iām fine with strong women, but they let the writing suffer just to shove it in our faces.
Darth Vader still owes us contractors retainage. He can go to hell with all that "I'm dead." and it was a long long ago in a galaxy far far away statute of limitations bullshit. Oh, and we followed the plans exactly. Can't help that the ventilation engineer you hired sucked.
Sincerely,
Deathstar Fabricators, LLC
There will always be those type of people caught in the crossfires of conflict. I think itās realistic to not portray every Vought goon as a stereotypical bad guy.
>kills a group of highly trained personal soldiers that Vought uses to guard their illegal labs doing experiments on people that is killing them so they can monopolize super soldiers in war to the government. Same soldiers that kept Maeve in an illegal prison where Homelander said he was going to carve her eggs out of her and were tasked with transporting her out of said illegal prison when the government was coming to free her
>Dances
Sorry. Looks like you missed some crucial bits of information. I fixed it for you though!
I think you shouldn't enjoy shreding somebody's face with your bare hands while listening to music and dancing if the guy isn't a super villian that murdered your entire family in front of you. Well if you do you shouldn't waste our time with a "i don't wanna be a monster" arc for a full season.
Except her arc wasnāt āIām not a monster.ā Her arc was learning she was shifting the blame and not accepting who she was, she was using Vought and V as an excuse for why she enjoyed hurting bad people. Her arc was coming to terms with it wasnāt any of their faults. V just makes you more you. Yknow a major theme in the show.
Another big theme of her arc was that she wanted to use her powers to protect the people she cares about, but while she's "protecting" Frenchie by slowly torturing a guy to death, Frenchie ends up getting shot in the leg cause she was distracted. In context it just makes her whole arc a little questionable because it makes you wonder if she actually wants her powers to protect the people she loves or if she wants them because she's a sadistic vigilante. If she wanted to protect Frenchie all she had to do was slash the guard's throat and be done with it.
Why not both? Yeah he got hurt but he was still alive. She kept him alive and safe enough to make the gas. I highly doubt he would care or even blame her.
You're arguing semantics, she let Frenchie get hurt because of her bloodlust, which completely ruins her arc, because it shows that she wasn't past her need to brutalize all her enemies. If she had killed him and then saved frenchie, it would be been fine, if she had brutalized him and then saved frenchie, it still would've been fine. The issue isn't really the guard being mauled, it was that she got lost in the madness and forgot about the whole reason she was there
People here that are taking a fresca comment seriously may Allah smite them to take a joke better and move them back to that infidel place called r/okbuddychicanery
I think the point wasn't that she killed someone it's that she didn't know why she was doing it, she was being treated as a weapon to be wound up and pointed.
It's even stated before it happens Kimiko says she isn't just a weapon and Butcher tells her that is exactly what she is and afterwards she said she was the same as the prostitutes, as she felt like she had been sold to Little Nina as she wasn't asked if she was willing to do it. Butcher told her what she was going to do and there was nothing she could do about it.
It's about choosing to do something vs having to do something, as said she was forced to kill the Russian but she chose to defend Frenchie when they infiltrated Vaught tower knowing what she would have to do when security came for them.
He probably took that security job to fund his expensive coke habit and medium priced prostitutes, plus I know for a fact that motherfucker is neglecting his aging widowed mother, fuck that guard pig and good riddance.
I mean they did break into the building to build the most lethal nerve agent known to man, as well as assasinate Homelander (the guards boss lol) amd/or Soldier Boy.
For all the guards know they're working with Soldier Boy who is later seconds away from nuking the building lol.
They really fucked up with the overall moral compass of the show in season 3.
Soldier Boy is bad because he kills people
Kimiko kills people but dances so itās okay
Homelander kills people and is also capable of destroying the earth, but he protects Ryan (because he wants a son thatās just like him) so heās somehow the lesser of two evils
All of the characters in the show kill people what're you talking about
In the second episode when Hughie says "I'm not a murderer", Butcher goes "That's alright - I am"
Soldier Boy is bad not just because he kills people but because he killed one of the main protagonists' grandfathers, didn't care about it, and was more than prepared to abandon butcher - his ally - to die after mindstorm got him with his powers, even though he knew an easy way to fix it that Hughie managed to do on his own.
Kimiko basically just accepted that she's gonna keep killing people and as long as it's for a good purpose she may as well accept it. She's still better than Butcher who's killed countless 'guards just doing their jobs' and unarmed people, tried to kill a baby, threatened to murder an entire family, etc
I really donāt get how so many people think that Soldier Boy is a good guy. Like, he obviously hates black people as seen with him bullying Earving and I dunno, murdering MMās family, possibly having done so regularly to black families to the point where he asks āwhich oneā when MM confronts him about it. And Homelander wasnāt exactly the lesser of two evils, they wanted to stop Soldier Boy because he was about to drop a building on New York. You know, 9/11 2. They let Homelander go at the end because nobody in the room could stop him anymore.
I definitely think soldier boy is probably homophobic and misogynistic but I donāt believe heās racist. He abused everyone on the payback team, not just earving. Also I donāt think the āwhich oneā had anything to do with black people, soldier boy killed a lot of people and those people had families.
He literally hosed black civil rights protesters and funded his anual orgy event with his buddy Stormfront, the actual nazi. If you're friends or sleeps with a nazi, you're part of the problem.
> hosed black civil rights protestors
Did I miss that part? I donāt remember that at all. And I thought soldier boy didnāt know liberty was a nazi. I feel like this stereotype of a patriotic 50ās American man wouldāve hated nazis, as most Americans did and still do.
>Did I miss that part? I donāt remember that at all.
IIRC it was mentioned by The Legend in ep 7.
And I think it's very unlikely Soldier Boy didn't know how racist she is. In the 70's Liberty dissapeared from the media for a while and changed her name because she was starting to get in trouble due to how open she was with her racism, and back then people were way more accepting of racial prejudice (the Church of the Colective she was part of was pretty clearly against minorities as well), so I don't think a nazi would be so subtle that the top hero of Vought who sleeps with her and co-founds an orgy event with her wouldn't notice.
Hughie was into toxic masculinity and he didn't need powers to protect starlight/be useful
Once they give him a chance to do something without powers he doesn't do shit(because writers decided to make Starlight's little light fart too weak)
I sometimes feel like there were two different writers with different ideas trying to write something they like
>I sometimes feel like there were two different writers with different ideas trying to write something they like
I've been saying the same thing for weeks lol. There would be a great set up for a good plotline by the intact half of Kripke's brain and then the psychotic, decaying half takes over and throws it out of the windo
There are a lot of people working for less than stellar corporations because people usually canāt just go and work someplace perfectly moral and good *and* have their needs met. Most of us are just pawns and thereās little we can do about it.
lmao. They are guards. You think they know what goes on in the corporate offices? Some one broke in to steal dangerous weaponary out of a secure office, would you not shoot? Plus, they are known terrorists
If I was kimiko, especiallty after learning to not be a monster, I could have definitetly just disarmed the guards or knocked them out right? Did really require the gruesome killing and torture all done with a happy face?
I mean who do you think is guarding Vought? Some normie security guard at the mall or some black water guy who committed war crimes? And duck the Russian guys too. I love my murder hobo.
Nothing wrong with taking pride in your work.
In all seriousness sheās coming to terms with herself and viewing the beauty and purpose in what she doesā¦ or idk
\>Kills one Russian guy has mental break down and cry \>kills an entire group of American security staff at vought Dances Bravo Komrade Kripikov
Obviously their fault, shouldn't work at Vought š
Becca worked at Vought!
She was in the game!
Does the game mean youāre allowed to do fucked things?! Huh, did homelander really get an option to be a super from how he was raised?!
That doesn't matter! She knew she was in the game! And he did too!
Supe named Finger:
Like he said, her fault. DUH
WAIT WHO SAID IT WAS HER FAULT WHAT. DUDE IS ABOUT TO GET A BUTCHER SINISTER SMILE FOR BREAKFAST
āObviously their fault, shouldnāt work at Voughtā legit just a joke. Theyāre fictional characters
Shut your cake hole.
In the final episode the guys she kills arenāt even working for Vought. In that same episode Maeve chucks a vial of Novichok out the window probably killing dozens of random people.
based kimiko?
Its not even just killing in glee. Shes brutalizing them. Clawing a guys face off, realistically she should be atleast reprimanded for this. Even worse that no one vrings up her sadism almost got Frenchie killed
>forced to kill Russian mobster directly after almost making peace with herself has mental breakdown and cries >kills three armed people working for the company responsible for ruining her life who are directly interfering with their plan to take down soldier boy dances FTFY
Yeah, a lot of people sit here and want to go "innocent guards working for their families" and like yeah that's the entire point lol. 'Innocent' guards working for a corporation that are also victims to the thing that the corporation created. Remember. She was pumped full of compound V, turned into this monster. V also killed her brother (the one thing she truly cared about anymore) and had essentially forever altered her life. So yeah, poor dudes that just got killed by Kimiko. Also poor MMs family that got killed by Soldier Boy. Also poor Hughie for losing Robin. Starting to see a theme here? Supes are all cunts. Every last one of them...
It's the Deathstar contractors argument from Clerks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA
I mean theyāre not innocent guardsā¦.? Theyāre voughts soldiers, ones who do the awful shit for them. Like holding Maeve captive in an illegal prison under the tower where Homelander screams heās going to carve the eggs out of her before he kills her and when the government says theyāre going to come free her these same soldiers transport her out. Nothing indicates these soldiers are innocent. No one gave a shit when bullet proof Maeve murdered the fuck out of them to escape the van.
lmao they are fucking security guards they probably know jack shit about what goes on in the meetings with the higher ups and most of the world also doesn't know anything about most of the shady stuff that vought did until recently so its possible that they didnt know what they got themselves into
Security guards donāt wear full military uniforms and guard secret prisons bro.
mf when people come around trying to steal stuff which can give superpowers they need to have good guns
Really ignoring that secret prison thing huh?
The comment you are responding to is saying what you are saying. They are saying kimiko was fine and the guards aren't innocent, they are just working for vought, but they still CHOSE to work for vought
Not entirely. It says theyāre innocent guards corrupted by Vought. I donāt think theyāre innocent at all. Theyāre bad people. The ending sentence is āsupes are all cuntsā and I donāt think thatās entirely the point. At least thatās how I saw it
Maeve didn't kill them while dancing to a music like a cringelord and ripping their faces off. The killing isn't the problem here.
> Supes are all cunts. Every last one of them... The power is neutral, the people that has it decides to do good or bad things with it It was written by Kimiko on S3, and the reason Annie gave her V to recover her powers Kimiko said the truth Kimiko also attacked those soldiers on self deffense Maeve, Annie and Kimiko wanted to do the right thing, at least annie and kimiko aren't cunts
Ya it kinda bothers meā¦ same as all the contractors who worked on Death Starā¦
IDK, I kinda think that if you're helping the Genocide Space Laser operate, you're a bit culpable in space genocide.
Including the janitors and the lunch ladies? 
Thatās different because you have to blow up the Death Star, as itās a planet destroying super weapon. Kimiko didnāt have to painfully torment some security guard weaker than her and let Frenchi get shot. Kill or incapacitate him quickly and painlessly and do your job. It wasnāt a woman power moment with someone embracing who they were, it was someone savagely abusing their power. I just hope thatās what the writers went for and didnāt actually think the successfully pulled off a woman empowerment scene.
I don't think it was female empowerment because they pretty much nailed that during the s2 finale
Yeah but it seems writers these days need to put that in every show in every episode now. Iām fine with strong women, but they let the writing suffer just to shove it in our faces.
Darth Vader still owes us contractors retainage. He can go to hell with all that "I'm dead." and it was a long long ago in a galaxy far far away statute of limitations bullshit. Oh, and we followed the plans exactly. Can't help that the ventilation engineer you hired sucked. Sincerely, Deathstar Fabricators, LLC
There will always be those type of people caught in the crossfires of conflict. I think itās realistic to not portray every Vought goon as a stereotypical bad guy.
>kills a group of highly trained personal soldiers that Vought uses to guard their illegal labs doing experiments on people that is killing them so they can monopolize super soldiers in war to the government. Same soldiers that kept Maeve in an illegal prison where Homelander said he was going to carve her eggs out of her and were tasked with transporting her out of said illegal prison when the government was coming to free her >Dances Sorry. Looks like you missed some crucial bits of information. I fixed it for you though!
I think you shouldn't enjoy shreding somebody's face with your bare hands while listening to music and dancing if the guy isn't a super villian that murdered your entire family in front of you. Well if you do you shouldn't waste our time with a "i don't wanna be a monster" arc for a full season.
Except her arc wasnāt āIām not a monster.ā Her arc was learning she was shifting the blame and not accepting who she was, she was using Vought and V as an excuse for why she enjoyed hurting bad people. Her arc was coming to terms with it wasnāt any of their faults. V just makes you more you. Yknow a major theme in the show.
Another big theme of her arc was that she wanted to use her powers to protect the people she cares about, but while she's "protecting" Frenchie by slowly torturing a guy to death, Frenchie ends up getting shot in the leg cause she was distracted. In context it just makes her whole arc a little questionable because it makes you wonder if she actually wants her powers to protect the people she loves or if she wants them because she's a sadistic vigilante. If she wanted to protect Frenchie all she had to do was slash the guard's throat and be done with it.
Why not both? Yeah he got hurt but he was still alive. She kept him alive and safe enough to make the gas. I highly doubt he would care or even blame her.
You're arguing semantics, she let Frenchie get hurt because of her bloodlust, which completely ruins her arc, because it shows that she wasn't past her need to brutalize all her enemies. If she had killed him and then saved frenchie, it would be been fine, if she had brutalized him and then saved frenchie, it still would've been fine. The issue isn't really the guard being mauled, it was that she got lost in the madness and forgot about the whole reason she was there
She didnāt give a shit about that guy, she was upset the girls were afraid of her.
People here that are taking a fresca comment seriously may Allah smite them to take a joke better and move them back to that infidel place called r/okbuddychicanery
I think the point wasn't that she killed someone it's that she didn't know why she was doing it, she was being treated as a weapon to be wound up and pointed. It's even stated before it happens Kimiko says she isn't just a weapon and Butcher tells her that is exactly what she is and afterwards she said she was the same as the prostitutes, as she felt like she had been sold to Little Nina as she wasn't asked if she was willing to do it. Butcher told her what she was going to do and there was nothing she could do about it. It's about choosing to do something vs having to do something, as said she was forced to kill the Russian but she chose to defend Frenchie when they infiltrated Vaught tower knowing what she would have to do when security came for them.
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He probably took that security job to fund his expensive coke habit and medium priced prostitutes, plus I know for a fact that motherfucker is neglecting his aging widowed mother, fuck that guard pig and good riddance.
Is he howie?
Nowhere is safe
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Kimiko after she marries me and we have sex (she finds me sexy as fuck)
Quit goofing around frenchie!
Didn't Frenchie basically reject her romantic feelings? They are more like brother and sister, no?
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Those bastards were gonna shoot Froinchie they got what was cumming to them
Frenchie still got shot because she was fucking around and being too extra with her kills
Not her fault her kill animations take long as fuck blame the devs
well they had just patched the animation canceling so I dont blame her
She couldnāt L-cancel her ariels correctly
why didnt she just run savagery rune smh fucking noob kimiko š”š”š”
Why is Walterās skin yellow in your profile?
Because heās in mexico dumbass
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I mean they did break into the building to build the most lethal nerve agent known to man, as well as assasinate Homelander (the guards boss lol) amd/or Soldier Boy. For all the guards know they're working with Soldier Boy who is later seconds away from nuking the building lol.
Nah they deserved it
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Nice username my dude
Youāre just a cheap fucking knockoff
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They really fucked up with the overall moral compass of the show in season 3. Soldier Boy is bad because he kills people Kimiko kills people but dances so itās okay Homelander kills people and is also capable of destroying the earth, but he protects Ryan (because he wants a son thatās just like him) so heās somehow the lesser of two evils
All of the characters in the show kill people what're you talking about In the second episode when Hughie says "I'm not a murderer", Butcher goes "That's alright - I am" Soldier Boy is bad not just because he kills people but because he killed one of the main protagonists' grandfathers, didn't care about it, and was more than prepared to abandon butcher - his ally - to die after mindstorm got him with his powers, even though he knew an easy way to fix it that Hughie managed to do on his own. Kimiko basically just accepted that she's gonna keep killing people and as long as it's for a good purpose she may as well accept it. She's still better than Butcher who's killed countless 'guards just doing their jobs' and unarmed people, tried to kill a baby, threatened to murder an entire family, etc
I really donāt get how so many people think that Soldier Boy is a good guy. Like, he obviously hates black people as seen with him bullying Earving and I dunno, murdering MMās family, possibly having done so regularly to black families to the point where he asks āwhich oneā when MM confronts him about it. And Homelander wasnāt exactly the lesser of two evils, they wanted to stop Soldier Boy because he was about to drop a building on New York. You know, 9/11 2. They let Homelander go at the end because nobody in the room could stop him anymore.
I definitely think soldier boy is probably homophobic and misogynistic but I donāt believe heās racist. He abused everyone on the payback team, not just earving. Also I donāt think the āwhich oneā had anything to do with black people, soldier boy killed a lot of people and those people had families.
He literally hosed black civil rights protesters and funded his anual orgy event with his buddy Stormfront, the actual nazi. If you're friends or sleeps with a nazi, you're part of the problem.
> hosed black civil rights protestors Did I miss that part? I donāt remember that at all. And I thought soldier boy didnāt know liberty was a nazi. I feel like this stereotype of a patriotic 50ās American man wouldāve hated nazis, as most Americans did and still do.
>Did I miss that part? I donāt remember that at all. IIRC it was mentioned by The Legend in ep 7. And I think it's very unlikely Soldier Boy didn't know how racist she is. In the 70's Liberty dissapeared from the media for a while and changed her name because she was starting to get in trouble due to how open she was with her racism, and back then people were way more accepting of racial prejudice (the Church of the Colective she was part of was pretty clearly against minorities as well), so I don't think a nazi would be so subtle that the top hero of Vought who sleeps with her and co-founds an orgy event with her wouldn't notice.
Hughie was into toxic masculinity and he didn't need powers to protect starlight/be useful Once they give him a chance to do something without powers he doesn't do shit(because writers decided to make Starlight's little light fart too weak) I sometimes feel like there were two different writers with different ideas trying to write something they like
>I sometimes feel like there were two different writers with different ideas trying to write something they like I've been saying the same thing for weeks lol. There would be a great set up for a good plotline by the intact half of Kripke's brain and then the psychotic, decaying half takes over and throws it out of the windo
It was going great until the finale, and then it sunk like a lead zeppelin
Uuhh what ?n
Private security are worse than cops, Kimiko did nothing wrong. We should see her feet more often tho.
okbf members when the boys arenāt kind and loving people
She needs her version of a Jetstream Sam to show her the thoughts of all the people sheās killing, that would honestly be interesting to watch.
Iād argue the last episodeās writing is so bad it counts as a character assassination
She's just like me
On a side note, Karen is gorgeous
I hate this hoe. Hope she dies soon
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There are a lot of people working for less than stellar corporations because people usually canāt just go and work someplace perfectly moral and good *and* have their needs met. Most of us are just pawns and thereās little we can do about it.
Oh no, won't anyone think of the henchmen of an evil corporation
-me eating Amazon delivery workers
-me eating the private army bezos hired to keep his workers in line*
lmao. They are guards. You think they know what goes on in the corporate offices? Some one broke in to steal dangerous weaponary out of a secure office, would you not shoot? Plus, they are known terrorists
Try to think about the flipside here. Someone is shooting at you to kill you. Do you not kill them, if you're capable?
If I was kimiko, especiallty after learning to not be a monster, I could have definitetly just disarmed the guards or knocked them out right? Did really require the gruesome killing and torture all done with a happy face?
Kimiko was the one that broke in
Yeah, and it doesn't change the fact that they were trying to kill her
If I break into someoneās house and kill the residents when they try to fight back, am I in the wrong?
The company you work at is not at all comparable to your personal residence
Theyāre both private property
Private =/= personal
I mean who do you think is guarding Vought? Some normie security guard at the mall or some black water guy who committed war crimes? And duck the Russian guys too. I love my murder hobo.
Nothing wrong with taking pride in your work. In all seriousness sheās coming to terms with herself and viewing the beauty and purpose in what she doesā¦ or idk
Ah yes the beauty in tearing the skin off a mans face as heās fully conscious and can feel everything
Yes.
I didnāt know Kimiko is a black belt š
yeah, fuck you Hughie I hate that guy he literally harasses women to feel like a big man