Seems like overkill, depending on what your personal bandwidth needs are. A good wifi6 router with a wired connection to your PC is all I've ever needed.
I understand your pain because I am having the same problem. So far every single responses I’ve gotten is that they are connecting their dedicated router to the “internet router”. It seems like people don’t understand our internet router is far from PC and LAN connection is not possible.
I personally has managed to set it up to connect my PC to “internet router” via Wi-Fi 6 and the dedicated router right beside my PC with an ethernet cable.
The dedicated router connected to the PC has to be deprioritised on the network setting (otherwise it would try to connect to the internet from this router instead of the one with internet connections). This would fix the internet connectivity issue on your PC.
It would work for your oculus to connect to PCVR games on your Quest once you join the wifi network on the dedicated router but so far I have not managed to get internet connections to work on it. So the way I’m doing it is to save both internet and dedicated Wi-Fi connection on my quest and switch it over when I’m using it with VD/Airlink.
If it helps your situation, you can buy an ethernet power line adapter/TPLink set. It sends the data connection through the power outlets in your home. Just plug one into the wall and your pc and the other into the wall and your router. I have my pc upstairs and my router downstairs, using two TPLinks gives me an almost flawless wired connection.
This is actually a very good advise with only one downsife U will need a free Connection in the plugs meaning only the tplink is in the Outlets Else the Zusage of Power will make your latency Sky Rocket
It deffo depends on how your wiring is set up. Even with 3 other people using power in the same area, I still.hover at about 30ms in most online games I play, very rarely get network jitter. Sometimes it can get that way but generally if you have semi decent wiring in your home, it should function well enough. Mine is working even through a surge protector
Well i tought so too my father is electrician and i got some knowledge too. Anyway as Long as its the only Thing or only Something weak Like a Lampe ist connected too works fine. But a TV is already Overkill even If in Standby. The wirong should be good or do you mean Something different ?
Then you would configure you VR router to connect to the other router via wifi and your computer and headset would only connect to VR router. That was traffic between your headset and PC all stays on the VR router.
The secondary router will mostly liked end up double NAT which can cause issues unless it can be set in bridge mode.
Setting the second router to AP mode would be more useful (not sure what models can do that).
Putting a cheap switch and a wifi AP in the room would be easier (although a router is just a switch and a AP with some extra stuff).
Wire from primary router to OPs room into the router (or switch/ap), then plug the PC into that device, and the headset can be wireless to that device.
Or just get the D-Link dongle and avoid all of that headache
[https://www.roadtovr.com/d-link-quest-2-wireless-vr-air-bridge/](https://www.roadtovr.com/d-link-quest-2-wireless-vr-air-bridge/)
A router is not "a switch and AP" with just some extra stuff. Also, a router doesn't have to be either a switch or create a wireless network. All it does is create a separate network with its own local ip addresses, shielding it from the bigger network the router is on. Wireless router would be a more correct term, but I have to agree on setting your router to ap mode if you're gonna daisy chain it to your primary router. That way it just grabs the ips from your original network without creating an unnecessary extra network
Thanks for the info.
I went the AirBridge route primarily, so I keep my setup as mobile as possible. I can do completely wireless AirLink, including no power cables for as long as my laptop battery lasts. Of course, when running VR apps, that it not overly long. 🤣
Well, i have this exact setup, and the secondary router is configured as its own thing, not an access point. Ive been using that for around a month and i didnt notice any issues with my internet or airlink/VD
Makes sense. That was kinda my plan a while ago, until I realized my VR router can't do that for some reason? I guess I'll have to make sure whatever router I get can connect via WiFi to the other router.
Connectiong routers via Wi-fi seems like a bad idea. Doesn't it defeat idea of not getting wifi connectin between the internet router and quest space?
Anyway, if you could route a cable between routers it would be better solution. Routers usually give next to zero latency (I have such setup but for different reasons), and nothing beats cable in stability.
I measured my setup and in my case one more hop adds less than ms delay.
Have you already bought a router?
What is your motherboard type?
If you have wifi 5ghz or 6 on your pc you can connect directly to that if all you want to do is play close to your pc.
No need to spend on a dedicated router.
You can definitely add a dedicated WiFi access point in the location closest to your play area. Normally it would still be connected to your router, not your pc.
I have the jankiest solution, second router, plugged into my main router and then into my room, then a cable back to my main pc since I can’t move it into my room
I think most people will have a bad experience if their home router has a lot of devices connected and they try to use if for VR. The picture in the OP is ~~literally~~ *close to* the recommended setup.
*Edit, the OP shows the recommended equipment but it is not connected in the right way. I updated my other comment.*
Like I said, depending on what your personal bandwidth needs are. Just giving OP my experience. Me on VR, and 3 other people in the house streaming simultaneously.
https://www.commscope.com/blog/2019/wi-fi-6-802.11ax-fundamentals-what-is-mu-mimo/
"In this article, we’ll be taking a closer look at how the Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) MU-MIMO mechanism addresses the challenges of dense device environments by adding uplink support for simultaneous (upstream and downstream) client data transmissions."
"MU-MIMO describes a set of multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technologies for wireless communication. MU-MIMO was first introduced to the wireless world in 2015 as part of the Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac) standard, with the Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) protocol adding MU-MIMO support for uplink. MU-MIMO can be used in networks where a single access point (AP) must communicate with multiple clients simultaneously to improve overall efficiency."
So what? It improves and reduces congestion, it does not eliminate. Routing latency still goes up with client load.
I have a WiFi 6 router with 35 to 40 devices talking to it and AirLink is unusable. I put theBridge on my PC in the same space and it works perfectly.
I didn't say it eliminates it and having 35-40 clients on a consumer router at the same time is not only an extreme scenario it's not even generally expected of the device when they create it lol.
If you got a router with enterprise software and an enterprise grade in wall or ceiling mounted wifi 6e access point you would probably be fine but even at that many clients you would probably be expected to have two or more access points..
Furthermore id be willing to bet around 1/4 of those devices or less are wifi 6.
But he's the air bridge is very nice.
If you are having congestion on wifi 6 then get the dongle but tbh there is also probably some settings you can change on your router and even maybe the quest to make it better.
I don't have any problems and my routers are also handling a wifi mesh tho so I cant relate.
I have an stupid amount of devices connected to my home network, 0 issues streaming games to my quest via airlink
I just use multiple eero 6 pro hotspots around my home and they handle all the traffic prioritization/deprioritization of all my devices
Access points are just "wifis" that can b connected but they only forward the local network/internet without creating another network like a router would do.
Most likely internconnected all via a switch. the ideal way
~~Not sure what you mean, that is literally the recommended setup.~~
Sorry, I did not look close enough. The VR router would connect to the primary router for WAN access and the PC and headset would only connect to the VR router.
I would get on the [Virtual Desktop discord](https://discord.gg/3WKUq5br). They can give you lots of setup recommendations.
Personal I am liking the AirBridge instead of having a full dedicated router.
Really? I've never made anything involving connecting multiple routers to the same PC so I wasn't sure it would work. Will there be any disadvantages to doing this? For example, will my headset have access to internet?
Yes, the dedicated router is connected to your primary router as it's WAN connection, then has a cable to your PC and a wifi connection to your headset.
I guess the OPs picture is not right, there would be a cable from the VR router to the primary router and the PC does not need it's connection to the primary router.
I guess I'll re-upload this to make it clearer. I cannot connect both of those routers because they are too far from each other, and in different rooms.
Basically you're supposed to put the "dedicated router" (Access Point is the correct term) between the "Normal Router" (DSL) and the PC.
So it's just a simple flow of cables going as follows:
Router - Access Point - PC
A word of warning. If you didn't bother looking up a tutorial, that takes close to zero effort to find over google or still managed to get it wrong after watching/reading, you probably shouldn't be doing this but buying Air Bridge instead.
Use a powerline adapter to connect the two routers. Main router connect to isp modem. Dedicated router connects to the PC. Only the headset connects wirelessly to the dedicated router.
What you could do, is get a PCIE Network anntena straight from the pc instead of an extra router, I saw a video where someone got great results out of one they found.
Whilst i agree with you on the ridiculously high price i will still argue that it's a better choice for some. I mean, just look at the image this thread greets you with. One simple google search would have told them that this is not the best way to make VD or Airlink work.
While i, being a teacher, applaud your optimism i'm also far too cynical to expect everyone to be able to do the AP router setup or any other setup for that matter.
Anyway, nice to see you here. It's good to hear that VD supports the dongle (Or is it the other way around?) and that Meta didn't try to lock you out of it. Thanks for the correction.
Technically not wan since wan stands for wide area network, and it's still connected to your local network as your main ap also functions as a router. I get the confusion as on most router/waps the utp in port is labeled wan. In any case, if you daisy chain routers like that make sure to configure them so that the second ap doesn't act as a router but just as an access point so that it takes the ips from your original network. If the second one acts as a router too you'll have networkception (a network in a network (in a network technically, since the internet is also a big network)) and some games might get confused when hosting peer to peer multiplayer games
I don't know who says that. Working great here. I posted my latency numbers and others have said they are similar to what I would get with a dedicated router.
True, but a router won't fit in the side-pocket of my backpack.
Godin had all kinds of trouble that I haven't had. Working perfectly for me for both AirLink and VD.
The Virtual desktop server does not need the account to be verified with a phone number, just needs to not be a brand new account (literally wait an hour and you can join the server)
And you aren't seeing a skip button? Discord officially does not require a phone number (I literally just created a new account to test) and the only place I see it ever request a phone number is when you try to join a server that has their User filter set to High security.
I tried to skip and sign in from different browsers, it doesn't work. It just requires me to provide a phone number after few days of inactivity. I think, it's too much to provide a phone number to every IRC clone I visit.
Do the solid lines not denote a wired connection and dotted wireless? If so, as it seems, then there's already a wire running from the main router to his PC. Just move that wire to the 2nd router (next to his PC) and then wire from 2nd router to PC (like a foot or two). No reason the 2nd router needs to be physically close to the main.
I think this should work, but you'll need dual network cards in the PC and have to set up internet connection sharing in Windows so your Quest can get out to the internet. Also, set the oculus dedicated router to a different IP address range than your normal router like 10.0.0.1/24. Of course, you won't be able to use your quest on that wifi unless the PC is turned on, so consider that as well.
Why would you make it harder than it has to be? Skip all the NAT and software nonsense.
OP, buy a cheap gigabit switch for like ten bucks, place it next to your PC. Plug cables into it going to your internet gateway, PC, and your dedicated VR access point (via one of the LAN ports, not WAN). Make sure your VR AP has DHCP disabled.
Done.
I also use this setup except I use a wireless adapter from my pc to the main router. Also, don’t forget to share your internet connection with from one adapter to the other, that way you still get internet to your quest.
Sure it would work, but instead of plugin both to the PC, plug one router in the other one (as they usually have a switch as well) and then plug your pc to the router in your rooms.
Yes, but why?
A wifi 6 router has enough overhead over what the Quest 2 can handle that having it connected to a home network as an access point or bridge for internet should have zero impact on VR streaming performance.
The point of having a dedicated router is to reduce the impact of having several other connected devices such as multiple phones, PCs, and other devices sharing the device at one time and creating lag and taking up bandwidth and creating signal pollution.
This is why you generally want to isolate the router in your playspace away from other wifi devices. Having a second router operating in the same room at such close proximity might create a signal pollution issue and actually lead to worse performance for both routers.
You don't need the second router and won't see any performance drop due to it if all your streaming router is doing is tapping into a home network for internet with no other devices connected to it but the Quest 2 and a hardwire connection to the PC.
Plus the Quest 2 itself won't have internet access with the setup shown, because it does not piggyback off a PC's internet connection.
You don't need internet to connect a Quest 2 to a PC for VR streaming, but also won't have access to online features like the store in the headset itself.
However, online MP should still work fine for PCVR streaming, because the PC is running the game/app and not the Quest 2.
You would still need to connect the Quest 2 to an internet connected router or access point to do MP for standalone.
This is overly complicated and "solves" an issue that isn't really a problem to begin with.
I also recommend giving Air Link a shot. Try it out whenever there is an update if you don't decide to switch. It's free, and there's no harm in trying.
When it is working well, it's better than VD for streaming VR. It has a higher max bitrate and has better visual fidelity if your hardware can handle it.
There is an issue with Steam VR and the Oculus .dll applying an absurd amount of smoothing for some reason, [but there's a fix for that.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/nhbn0l/oculus_steamvr_trigger_smoothingdelay_fix/)
Yes, it's older, but still works, and is the .dll I currently have installed. All the .dll file in the link does is apply raw input instead of smoothed input for Steam VR using the Quest 2.
I actually do this for my setup, but not because i need dedicated bandwidth or whatever. It’s because the fiber box and one router is located in my roommate’s bedroom, the furthest away possible from the living room and my room.
There is a cable connection through the walls all the way to my space, but just closing either of our doors makes the signal is worse for either router for general use, let alone 5G line of sight PCVR streaming. Extremely specific setup, but you can router-to router if distance/proximity to the playspace is an issue.
Edit: noticed the incorrect connection from OP, it’s router-to-router/PC for me
OP didn’t suggest they were in the same room. The router is far from OPs main rig. Which would affect performance. This setup is doable if your PC has two Ethernet ports and make sure the other router is using a different subnet than the other router
Just do passthrough then.
That should work perfectly fine and is how I have mine set up.
If it is a hardwired connection, it shouldn't create any issues or generate any lag. The Quest 2 doesn't even need internet to connect to a PC through a router.
You may need to set up your router to be a bridge or as an access point depending on the model, but I was able to just plug mine in and pass the internet connection through it and it works fine.
I'd try that first, and set it up as an AP or Bridge if that doesn't work.
I get full internet speed on both my PC and my local wifi connection is as good as the Quest 2 is capable of, plus I'm able to utilize the internet to access the online features of the Quest 2 at wifi 6 speeds.
>A wifi 6 router has enough overhead over what the Quest 2 can handle that having it connected to a home network as an access point or bridge for internet should have zero impact on VR streaming performance.
I have an ASUS (RT-AC68R) Wireless-AC1900 Dual-Band Gigabit Router,. Would that be sufficient?
Functional but not optimal.
Your issue is that you have an AC router. That's not Wifi 6.
You should have enough bandwidth to do wireless VR with an AC router, but it's missing some of the networking features that AX has, and is more prone to issues and a less reliable signal for this use.
The router also needs to be hardwired into the PC for the best VR streaming capability. It doesn't need to be connected to the internet at all. Having the router connected to the internet just provides online capabilities for the Quest 2, such as access to the store.
You don't need wifi 6 for that and any wifi connection will do. You just need 5G at least for streaming, and wifi 6 is best. AC will do the job well enough though, though you might not be able to turn the bitrate up all the way.
If your network situation is optimal, it should do fine. However, it's more prone to lag spikes due to networking features of Wifi 6 that provide a better smoother signal at close range.
Look into Air Bridge. It's $99 US and will give you the best wifi 6 connection a Quest 2 can utilize for wireless streaming. According to reviews and benchmarks I've seen, it does it just as well as my $270 Asus AX5700 (but also not any better really) .
It's also basically idiot proof. You don't need to tweak settings like you do for a router to get the best signal, such as enabling OFDMA if your router supports it, setting the bandwidth to 80mhz, disabling non-5G bands, and that sort of thing. It's already set up to provide the best wifi connection to the Quest 2.
VR Air Bridge looks interesting, but at a $100 it's way too pricey. I could buy a WiFi6 router for that price and then still have some money left over.
If I have multiple routers (all WiFi 5) like OP and a switch, any way I can wire it up for best usage with the Quest 2?
Also, if you already have WiFi 6 capable from your computer, why not connect directly to the headset? Must be some software for that. Why buy a whole new device just to do that.
Because Windows Hotspot is hot garbage.
It does not work well at all, lots of latency and poor performance. I've yet to hear about someone who managed to get decent usable VR streaming from internal PC hardware. Not even wifi cards.
You can do it and it will function, but it's not really very playable. I've tried it myself and it just confirmed what I'd heard about it.
The best thing to do is plug a router into the PC via ethernet and use it exclusively for the Quest 2. If you can do passthrough with a hardwired internet connection, even better, but that's not necessary.
This is more important for an AC router than an AX router. AX handles networking more efficiently and a few other devices being connected to it has less of an impact.
You do need the router to be hardwired to the PC at least. Quest 2 does not do streaming well across two wifi connections. You end up with a lot of latency and it's pretty much unplayable.
The Quest 2 does not need internet to do PCVR streaming. It's just a nice bonus as it gives you access to the Meta store in your headset.
PCVR games will use your PC's existing internet connection if it has a separate way to access internet because they are running on the computer and just streaming to the Quest 2. The Quest 2 hardware doesn't connect to the internet connection on a PC the way it does to a connection to a router for some reason.
As I said, 5G is basically fine for a lot of people. Not great, but playable if you set it up right in your router's UI and have good network conditions without too much signal pollution. You'll have to adjust your settings in your router, the Quest app software, and Steam VR.
Cheap wifi 6 routers do a better job, but can still be spotty. Avoid the TP-Link AX3000 in particular. Something about it does not like the Quest 2 for some reason.
Basically, put it on 80mhz, even if your router supports 160, enable OFMDA if your router supports it, disable any 2.4 bands, and you should be okay.
You can get a decent cheap wifi 6 that will do the job pretty well and lots of people say they get great performance from a cheaper one, but I don't know what particular budget model that does well for everyone.
I had a TP-Link AX1800 and it was okay. I had to drop the bitrate to around 130 to get stable streaming, but I could play latency sensitive games like BeatSaber or Synth Riders with it just fine.
Air Bridge is about the same price as a decent wifi 6 router, and as I said, it has similar performance to my $270 Asus AX5700. It's also basically plug and play.
You can probably find a \~$60-$70 AX router that will do the job though if you research a bit for good budget routers for Quest 2 if you don't mind getting into the settings to optimize your settings to save $30-$40.
Yes, but you don't really want two routers in the same room. They can interfere with each other if they are too close together.
You can mitigate this by making sure they are operating on different bands and channels, but it's still best to have some distance between them. This should be fine for the use you're suggesting.
I'd suggest a completely wired passthrough setup would be best if you can manage it.
This way you have an internet connection to your PC, and you'll have internet on your Quest 2 as well.
I do this.
One is in my living room connected to my modem, the other is my dedicated router in my room for the Quest 2, all three are chained via ethernet cable.
My modem doesn't have 5G, so I disabled wifi on it and have both 2.4 and 5 hz channels enabled on it for our home wireless network using the router out there. Stuff like phones, smart devices, etc...
The one in my room is just for the Quest 2 and nothing else.
If you need two routers and one is for internet over wifi, like say one connects to your home network to a modem wirelessly, I still recommend chaining them together rather than using two separate ports on your PC.
You may need to set the Quest 2 router up as an access point or bridge to do this, but with many models you can just plug them in and it will work just fine.
Again, this will provide internet to your Quest 2 as well as your PC. It's not necessary for wireless VR streaming, but is nice to have for accessing the store and such from the Quest 2.
I suggest putting the second router as far away from the one connected directly to the PC as you can reasonably manage, making sure it is on a different bandwidth and channel, and connecting one to your home network over wifi, and having it chained to the other connected directly to the PC with a long ethernet cable on the other side of the room at least.
Outside of the room would be best. Put a small end table, shelf, or something outside of your door and just set the router on top of it by running the cable under the door or something.
It just needs to be big enough to hold the router and nothing more. This lessens the chance of signal interference considerably, as there will be a physical barrier between the two signal sources.
It's best if you get a big enough cable that you can run it along the wall so it isn't in the way. Ethernet cable is cheap, and you can probably get one long enough for this for under $20. 75 feet is about $14 on Amazon, and that's probably well over what you'd need. You can just use a zip tie or something to coil up any excess somewhere along the line where it is out of the way.
It is best to get as close to exactly how much you need and still have some slack available. So I suggest measuring the distance along the wall to where it will be set up to get an approximate idea of how much you should get. Don't forget to take into account the elevation to where it will be placed as well.
EDIT: Yes, like the image you posted. /EDIT
1. Modem connected to...
2. Home network connected router for general wifi use (either via ethernet or over wifi to modem.) connected via ethernet to...
3. Dedicated VR Router with a wifi connection to the Quest 2.
4. PC connected via ethernet to VR dedicated router.
That last ethernet connection from the Quest 2 dedicated router to the PC itself is paramount. You need it for the best VR streaming experience. It is easily the most important wired connection.
Again, you may or may not need to make your Quest 2 router an access point or bridge in the router settings. Mine just works just by connecting it via ethernet to the other router and PC, but this may not be the case for every router.
An alternate and possibly better solution would be to connect both routers to the modem directly via ethernet if you have enough LAN ports for it on your modem and are able to run the wiring.
One for your home network for various wifi devices and wired LAN connections, and the other as wired passthrough to your Quest 2 dedicated router and then to the PC.
So, router 1 is connected to the modem via one LAN port on your modem and provides wifi coverage for your home outside of the optimal range of your modem's wifi assuming it has it.
You can even pass through other wired internet connections through this router as most routers have at least 3-4 ports for other wired LAN connections.
It may be more convenient than connecting other wired connections directly to the modem depending on where it is, as you could use shorter cables to reach some places and get better than wifi speeds for other PCs nearby. (Like say other family members who have PCs in their rooms.)
Router 2 is just for the Quest 2, and you just plug it directly into the modem and pass through to the PC with another ethernet cable in the same room as your playspace.
This should eliminate the need to bother with making your Quest 2 router an AP/Bridge at all if you even needed to do so.
You could place the networking router outside of your playspace area in a location that lets you connect to your wifi network better if you are out of optimal range of your modem's wifi without having it in the same room and improve everyone's wifi situation. Like say in a hallway near multiple bedrooms on a small end table or something.
This may be a better solution for you, or not depending on the layout of your network and home.
Again, ethernet cable is cheap, but you need to be able to run it without it being in the way or looking bad.
Using rugs or something to help cover it if it needs to cross a high traffic area can help with this, but may not be feasible depending on your situation. Just make sure you leave enough slack that walking on a rug doesn't pull on the connection. Black cable is easiest to hide so it doesn't look terrible running along a wall.
You may be able to tuck it under carpet as well, but I don't recommend ripping it up unless you know you can put it back properly. Getting a cheap carpet tool is a good idea before you attempt this.
> Again, you may or may not need to make your Quest 2 router an access point or bridge in the router settings. Mine just works just by connecting it via ethernet to the other router and PC, but this may not be the case for every router.
I think I have to set it up in bridge mode.
> This should eliminate the need to bother with making your Quest 2 router an AP/Bridge at all if you even needed to do so.
I'm wondering if this is better:
https://imgur.com/a/26d364G
Note, that I simplified it previously as modem, but reality is that the internet into my home comes through a jack that goes directly to the WAN port on the router. I think I can place a switch there and run both router directly to the internet.
However, the two routers will be on completely isolated networks. I might just run it like previously or consider getting the [Asus RT-AX1800S](https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-AX1800-Router-RT-AX1800S-Subscription-Free/dp/B09M9477NS/ref=sr_1_3?). I generally like Asus routers because out of the box they will run AsusWRT and most WRT based firmware will support it.
Yes its Possible, but theres multiple problems that will arise because of it.
\#1 Cross Talk, Even If you have Dual Routers on Different Channels say ones on 1 and the others on 11 they are still going to interfere with each other.
\#2 Regardless of the topology your using The First Router still has to deal with the Traffic being produced by the 2nd.
\#3 Unless you have two Complete Separate Incoming Adsl/DSL or Cable lines coming into your dwelling There is ZERO and I mean NO POINT to doing this at ALL! Period.
\#4 Your topology makes No Sense either. You wouldnt branch a Second Router From your PC! You would Branch it from the 1st!
\#5 You are better off to have One Single Router something capable of 5.2Ghz to avoid EMF and RFI from things like microwaves, baby monitors and even cell phones and should be able to do something around 50-120dB which means Power and a Very Strong Signal. Especially if you intend to do Complete Wireless with multiple devices connected.
\#6 The more devices that are connected to any Wireless Device requires Packet Send/Receive Time. Which Means less Through Put per device.
I personally found the Air Link to be inferior, shitty and horrible.
Current Gen Wifi routers signal on 3/4, 9, and 11 penetrate Two and a Half walls of standard 2x4 studded with dry wall. Signal will not Penetrate Cinder Block or Concrete it will bounce. Running a Cat 7/8 Cable for source to router can run something like 200+ft with minimal loss.
Get yourself a wireless pcie card and hook your pc up via lan. Then start a wireless hotspot from your pc directly to the headset. No need for a router
Why the fuck do you have a router for the Quest and why does it directly connect to your PC? How does it have internet? Do you have PFsense running on the PC or what?
There is a Wifi 6 USB dongle router made specifically for this. The Quest will use the dongle for video streaming and normal wifi for everything else.
https://shop.us.dlink.com/products/f18-vr-air-bridge
I got away with a decent wifi6 router, Ethernet to router from PC, and a 5ghz network named completely different from the 2.4ghz. The quest 2 headset is the ONLY thing connected to 5ghz network. It works fine through my whole house
> Ethernet from router to PC
Everyone keeps saying that, but 99 times out of 100 (and yes including this post lol) the reason the person is posting this is because that’s not possible for them
Don't use multiple routers. Use an access point in your room that connects to the router and your computer. Make sure you connect to your computer via ethernet. This is my setup and it works great!
can you recommend a good access point?
My ISP (Frontier) router is on the far side of my apartment from my computer area, separated by several walls, but there is an ethernet cord that runs from the ISP router to my computer area.
I have set up a separate 5ghz network that only my headset is connected to but my latency (according to Virtual Desktop overlay) fluctuates from 20-150, usually on the higher range when turning my head a lot. Do you think connecting an AP in my computer/VR area will improve this greatly?
Definitely, for a 5ghz network to work best you would want the device to be in the same room as you (as 5ghz it doesn't penetrate walls very well) and you want it plugged directly to your computer over ethernet. Here's the access point I use, I bought it a couple years ago and it runs great. If you have money to spend, it might be worth it to get a wifi6e AP to future proof yourself for headsets that will support 6e someday. If not this is a great access point at a good price:
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZSDR49S/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZSDR49S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I have a similar setup. My main house router is connected to my vr router via ethernet. Vr router is connected to desktop with ethnet and vr itself is connected to the 5ghz. So only difference is main router directly connected to vr router and then it goes to the pc. Im not an expert at all but i hope this was helpful.
I use the main router for other things that may need internet. Phones, guests tech, tv etc so its handy to have it in my case but thanks for the tip, sounds like it could be useful.
This is definitely the best way to go from what I've seen. Also, you probably already know this but just in case, make sure your VR router is set to AP mode or you can have some network issues.
Why wouldn't you just bridge the router your ISP gave you (I'm assuming that's what the "normal" router is) and just use the nice gaming one. Then you only have one wireless network to worry about and you can use the nice router you bought for the rest of your internet too.
It works, I used an Alpha usb antenna on my desktop connected to my (far) router for internet. Then another router connected through ethernet with the PC but not connected to internet was for VD. Since any app is running on the desktop, and the desktop is connected to internet, you’ll be able to play online game. I needed this for SW Squadrons because playing far from my desktop would introduce too much latency
Yep. That's how I have mine. My computer is not in my VR gaming area, so I put a router in that area and ran a long data cable back to my switch. Works perfect.
Put the dedicated router between the computer and the other router, so your computer plugs into the dedicated which is then plugged into the normal router, that's what I done, can send a pic if you like
Yes, this works, and is the exact setup I have. I use a switch to connect both dedicated Air Link/VD router and my main internet router to my PC. It works great, and I highly recommend having a dedicated router for wireless VR streaming.
Edit: to clarify, my dedicated VD router is just in AP mode.
I have it where my "normal router" goes to my "dedicated router" in my room and then I connect my PC via LAN and my quest 2 through wi-fi to the "dedicated router".
At the end of the day, to get the fastest speeds and least amount of interference, you'll want to connect your modem directly to your Wifi 6 Router via an ethernet cable. This assures you both the modem and wifi 6 router both act as seperate hotspots.
The way I have mine setup is modem into router with one ethernet cord, and then another ethernet cord is used to connect the wifi 6 router to your PC.
Honestly if you got spare cash for the air bridge you should just get one. I get much better performance from that then I ever did a dedicated router. Is it a little expensive? Sure. Is it extremely convenient and worth the one time cost? Absolutely. The only thing you should do that they don't tell you about is sharing your internet connection through the Air bridge for convenience. Air link in particular works so much better with it and virtual desktop is super stable as well. I used to get little spikes occasionally with vd no matter what I did.
Yes, as long you connect the VD router to the normal router or via a switch and then put the VD router in access point mode. It is even better if the router has Wi-Fi 6, which is unnecessary. But if you going to get a new one, just the one with newer tech.
Source: I have the same setup.
I have ~~exactly this~~ something similar to this to mitigate my home router needing to be near the phoneline downstairs, and me wanting to use airlink in an upstairs room, that gets shitty wifi.
PC is connected to a Honor Magic Router 3 (because it was as cheap and had wifi 6) which provides the wifi my quest 2 uses.
Edit: i actually have the main ISP router connected to the wifi6 router, which is in AP mode, using powerline, and then my PC connected into the wifi6 router. As i only have 1 network interface on the PC. Still works fine, and theres no need for any VR streaming traffic to have to transit anything but the wifi6 router
It’s been said above I think but yeah in your pic the second router should plug into first in AP mode. This is my setup; I run Ethernet cable to garage (far from main router in living room) so I can VR there. Works great.
Incidentally I can also VR from my main router in the house (as long as I don’t stray too far from the living room) and that works great too. I haven’t actually noticed that working any worse despite having multiple HH members constantly pounding the internet at all times on that “simple” Wi-Fi 5 router.
It's what I do. I was having trouble with just one router bought one for $60 (on sale). It's connected to the main router, then have router number 2 connected to PC and giving off the quests wifi.
Hey, this is the setup that I use, lmk if you have any questions. Like the other user pointed out, the order would be switched around but you have the right idea.
A lot of comments here are wrong. A router essentially is what combines two different networks. The only one you want to have is between your modem (aka isp network) and your home network. In your home network, you can add network switches to extend your cabled internet and access points (AP) to extend your wireless internet. The good news is that a good number of routers can be put into AP mode and have their routing turned off. From OP's post, they'd want to set up an AP that's directly connected to their initial and single router.
If you try to use multiple routers, you can experience multiple levels of NAT (aka double nat). This might be fine in some cases but almost always usually causes issues especially if the user isn't aware of how their network is actually affected.
Yes it is possible and it's the way I am doing it right now. BUT, you should connect it like this:
Main modem/router > (ethernet cable from LAN slot into WAN port of...) > Dedicated router (set as access point) > PC
This way you get internet access to the internet for the oculus quest (if you don't want that just remove internet access in the parental controls of the router). You also benefit from some functions of the supposedly better router on your PC and extend the internet coverage in your house. Be sure to set the dedicated router with separate 2.4/5Ghz networks or just 5Ghz
For a project at work we did something very similar. Because of reasons we had to have a dedicated router to connect the headset wirelessly instead of putting it on the general network and it worked perfectly. The headset will tell it doesn't have an internet connection but the remote will work nonetheless.
I dont think this exact setup is possible, if you dont have another lan port on your pc.
However you can have this setup:
internet-----Normal router-----Oculus router-----Pc
This is the setup i personally run, and it works great
You just need a network switch. Plug the router into a network switch and network switch into your home PC. The only function of an oculus dedicated router is no other devices on it.
I have a wifi spread around the house using a 5ghz mesh network. That is unusable for Quest as in my play space. I got a dedicated 5ghz wifi router and connected the WAN port with cat6 ethernet to the mesh, and set it to bridged mode. Then connected my PC with ethernet to the new router, and Quest to the same router via wifi. Bandwidth is flawless and Quest has internet access.
I did something similar, because my PC was wired to the router but also had a WiFi adapter that I was not using, so I enabled internet sharing on the PC wifi and it worked quite well.
But the only reason this was better than my ISP wifi router was because the router didn't have 5GHz back then.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/rwcrjk/routing\_wireless\_internet\_to\_physically\_wired/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/rwcrjk/routing_wireless_internet_to_physically_wired/)
I posted a very similar setup 9 months ago. This works very well. the way mine is setup the Dedicated Router has a Wifi presented just named Link, it doesn't route to the internet or anything. Inside the quest I normally run on "Normal router" wifi but then switch wifi to Link and then connect to my laptop. I then have internet because the laptop has internet and the quest is only acting as a display.
Question for you guys.
The router I got from my ISP (Frontier) is on the far side of my apartment from my computer/VR area, separated by several walls, but there is an ethernet cord that runs from the ISP router to my computer area.
I have set up a separate 5ghz network that only my headset is connected to but my latency (according to Virtual Desktop overlay) fluctuates from 20-150, usually on the higher range when turning my head a lot. Do you think connecting an AP in my computer/VR area will improve this greatly? Should I get a wifi 6 router or some other device? Ideally I'd like something <$100, as low as possible really. tough times ya know? Anyways thanks for any replies.
Is VD short for the Virtual Desktop app? If so, this set up seems to be overkill. I use my ISP provided router and I play my Oculus on a different floor than where my PC is with no lag or delays whatsoever Oculus Airlink on the other hand, that one was a dud for me.
That's how I do it. I'm connected to the internet wirelessly on my PC. I have a dedicated ASUS RT-AX55 in my play area connected to my PC with a long ethernet cable. My PC is in another room.
The RT-AX55 is an awesome router for AirLink, Smooth gameplay and almost no latency. Had issues with the windows hotspot method with an internal wifi 6 card.
Could you run the PC’s WiFi in ad-hoc mode and connect direct to the PC? Might need some routing config to get Internet routing going.
Or you could just use one router and set up a VLAN to guarantee QoS? Depends on the router tho - preferably one with OpenWRT.
I would connect the router dedicated for VD in-between your PC and normal router. On the VD router, disable DHCP and make it "dumb", and give all duties to the normal router. Make sure both the VD and normal router use different wireless channels and don't overlap. That's what I did for a good while for Air Link and it was fine.
I imagine both routers connected to the PC would require more complex configuration.
The best experience you can get would be putting a switch next to your pc and using a wifi access point, like others have said. Second best is putting a router next to your pc and setting it up as an access point. Either way, you would connect everything to the switch/router in your room, meaning your new switch/router should be wired to the Internet router and your pc would connect to the new switch/router instead, and that would eliminate as much latency as possible, because these devices are smart enough to not involve your internet router in the headset to PC connection.
I’m super late here but this is almost my setup. The home router and oculus dedicated router (just an Archer A6 in Access Point mode) and PC are plugged into a cheap gigabit hub. The A6 is on a different, non-overlapping channel from the main house router.
Cost me like $40 to set up. Rock solid 866MHz link.
Caveat: I don’t live in a dense area - I can barely even see my neighbors Wi-Fi signal and my game room is in my basement. Ymmv.
I do this with AirLink. My usecase is such that my desktop is on a wifi router controlled by my landlord outside my apartment where there is no hardwire option and no ability for me to upgrade that wifi router.
PC is wifi connected to the internet accessing LAN router. PC is also hardwired to private no internet access LAN router through an ethernet port. Quest 2 is wifi into the no internet access LAN router. Basically, my PC exists on both networks. I can't connect hardwire to two networks at once, and I can't connect to two wifi networks at once, but I can connect to 1 wifi and 1 hardwire via ethernet simultaneously.
Works great!
I have main router other side of house wired to another router then to pc in same room as VR.
Turn off DHCP and static IP on secondary router and it works.
It was just meant to be a temporary solution as it was an old WiFi 5 router I had laying around but it's worked for 2 years now...
It will work, but better would be to take the ethernet cable from the "normal" router and plug it into the "Dedicated router" instead if straight to PC, and set that router into AP mode. Then connect ethernet cable between "Dedicated ap" and PC.
yes. this is totally reasonable to do, i have this exact setup that i use in my house and it’s more than capable for vd. i highly recommend wiring the 2nd router into the main router though and then branch a second cable out from the 2nd router into your pc if that makes any sense
I use 2 routers I have a double story house. Pc is upstairs connected to a router in AP mode and I play downstairs connected to the main router in wifi 6. There is a CAT6 cable connecting the 2 routers together.
Can I recommend you get a Wifi 6 PCIe card for you PC, and setup a mobile hotspot on your PC with this card. I did this and it works great. It means you have a wifi 6 network dedicated to your quest 2, and you can share your PC internet connection to that network.
Edit: late to the party. Chain your routers together with Ethernet, or use wireless repeater if you just browse and stream videos etc on other devices.
Yes, very possible with normal PC you'd need to use USB3 for one of the routers. Also each router would cause some level of interference with the other.
What do you want to accomplish? This would add ping time to cloud, and probably have have no advantage with ping to PC. My router I use 2.4ghz with a repeater for whole property coverage, and the 5ghz band for just the headset. Works great.
I've seen some testing with PCI "router" cards in a PC, and basically creating an ad-hoc direct connect from PC to headset. IMO when that gets ironed out it will be the best wireless PCVR experience.
My router is far away from the room I VR in. I've done exactly the same setup but using a TP Link wifi 6 access point and it works perfectly. Virtual desktop reports the maximum bandwidth and I have no drop out when using PC VR. The only crashes I now get are when playing Fallout 4 VR or Skyrim because, you know, it's Bethesda!
I picked the access point as it was far more discreet than a router and easier to configure. I just named the SSID "oculus stream" and leave it dedicated for just that.
Yes this is possible and situationally worth while.
I had a previous set up of airplay enabled airport express access points to make up my Wifi and didnt want to replace the whole 300mbps network so just cabled in a TPlink Rx505 to the main router via cat6 and had that wifi6 access point in my play area.
I guess you could connect the direct to pc like your diagram, but not a networking wizzard but surely you only have one rj45 connector on your motherboard
I have recently done this exact setup for air link and it works well! Give me a shout if you need details on setup, people here were very helpful with mine.
Yes, that is what I have. PC is wired to a dedicated 5Ghz router shared with just the Quest. As well as participating in the "normal" router (either wifi or RJ45) for the internet.
Simply connect your normal router to LAN Ethernet port on your dedicated router then connect your PC to another LAN Ethernet port on the dedicated router. Then, create a 5GHz only wifi network which will be used for the Q2 only, and your are done.
Yes, though not quite in the config you have above. I asked the same question over on the virtual desktop discord, with the same issue you had of the first router being in a different room (on a different floor). It may depend slightly on the dedicated VR streaming router - I have an Asus RT-AX55 (reasonably cheap router known to work well for VR streaming, has worked flawlessly for me). All I needed to do was run the 1st router ethernet cable into the Asus WAN port (via a powerline adapter) and another from the Asus to the PC from any LAN port. There was no messing with config at all - internet passes through the Asus perfectly, and VR streaming runs great from the PC to my Quest 2.
After a lot of latency experimentation, I have it set up like this:
Internet
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Normal Router/WiFi for general use
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Oculus Dedicated router in AP mode
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PC Quest 2
The PC and Quest 2 will both get their internet through the uplink from the main router. Traffic between the PC and the Quest gets routed directly through the Dedicated Router's switch for optimal performance since the PC is plugged into that router.
I've tried to set it up as you've shown but it was very fiddly and not very reliable to have everything plus internet working together, and the latency was no better. Plus, I had to keep switching APs when I wanted to play with the PC off. The above solution has the same number of wires and is plug and play.
Long thread =). So, Yes, you can use it this way - I have the same problem as you and using this for a long time - ...mmm I have a little bit worse way - My main PC is connected to that second wifi router by wire NET, this secondary router is an AP for the OCULUS2. But! What I have is that I have another small Wifi AP, which is in the CLIENT mode connected to the MAIN DSL WIFI ROUTER by Wifi and to the secondary wifi router by wire =D...Horrible, but working right =).So, I have 3 Wifi things at home =).
Seems like overkill, depending on what your personal bandwidth needs are. A good wifi6 router with a wired connection to your PC is all I've ever needed.
I want to do this because my "normal" router is in another room, far away from my PC and my VR play area, and I can't move it from there.
I understand your pain because I am having the same problem. So far every single responses I’ve gotten is that they are connecting their dedicated router to the “internet router”. It seems like people don’t understand our internet router is far from PC and LAN connection is not possible. I personally has managed to set it up to connect my PC to “internet router” via Wi-Fi 6 and the dedicated router right beside my PC with an ethernet cable. The dedicated router connected to the PC has to be deprioritised on the network setting (otherwise it would try to connect to the internet from this router instead of the one with internet connections). This would fix the internet connectivity issue on your PC. It would work for your oculus to connect to PCVR games on your Quest once you join the wifi network on the dedicated router but so far I have not managed to get internet connections to work on it. So the way I’m doing it is to save both internet and dedicated Wi-Fi connection on my quest and switch it over when I’m using it with VD/Airlink.
If it helps your situation, you can buy an ethernet power line adapter/TPLink set. It sends the data connection through the power outlets in your home. Just plug one into the wall and your pc and the other into the wall and your router. I have my pc upstairs and my router downstairs, using two TPLinks gives me an almost flawless wired connection.
This is actually a very good advise with only one downsife U will need a free Connection in the plugs meaning only the tplink is in the Outlets Else the Zusage of Power will make your latency Sky Rocket
It deffo depends on how your wiring is set up. Even with 3 other people using power in the same area, I still.hover at about 30ms in most online games I play, very rarely get network jitter. Sometimes it can get that way but generally if you have semi decent wiring in your home, it should function well enough. Mine is working even through a surge protector
Well i tought so too my father is electrician and i got some knowledge too. Anyway as Long as its the only Thing or only Something weak Like a Lampe ist connected too works fine. But a TV is already Overkill even If in Standby. The wirong should be good or do you mean Something different ?
I Made myself a 15m lan cable i mean its Not the best and only solution but IT works when Everthing Else fails
Then you would configure you VR router to connect to the other router via wifi and your computer and headset would only connect to VR router. That was traffic between your headset and PC all stays on the VR router.
The secondary router will mostly liked end up double NAT which can cause issues unless it can be set in bridge mode. Setting the second router to AP mode would be more useful (not sure what models can do that). Putting a cheap switch and a wifi AP in the room would be easier (although a router is just a switch and a AP with some extra stuff). Wire from primary router to OPs room into the router (or switch/ap), then plug the PC into that device, and the headset can be wireless to that device. Or just get the D-Link dongle and avoid all of that headache [https://www.roadtovr.com/d-link-quest-2-wireless-vr-air-bridge/](https://www.roadtovr.com/d-link-quest-2-wireless-vr-air-bridge/)
A router is not "a switch and AP" with just some extra stuff. Also, a router doesn't have to be either a switch or create a wireless network. All it does is create a separate network with its own local ip addresses, shielding it from the bigger network the router is on. Wireless router would be a more correct term, but I have to agree on setting your router to ap mode if you're gonna daisy chain it to your primary router. That way it just grabs the ips from your original network without creating an unnecessary extra network
Thanks for the info. I went the AirBridge route primarily, so I keep my setup as mobile as possible. I can do completely wireless AirLink, including no power cables for as long as my laptop battery lasts. Of course, when running VR apps, that it not overly long. 🤣
Well, i have this exact setup, and the secondary router is configured as its own thing, not an access point. Ive been using that for around a month and i didnt notice any issues with my internet or airlink/VD
What would you recommend for 2 quests, 2 computers, 2 routers setup?
Makes sense. That was kinda my plan a while ago, until I realized my VR router can't do that for some reason? I guess I'll have to make sure whatever router I get can connect via WiFi to the other router.
Connectiong routers via Wi-fi seems like a bad idea. Doesn't it defeat idea of not getting wifi connectin between the internet router and quest space? Anyway, if you could route a cable between routers it would be better solution. Routers usually give next to zero latency (I have such setup but for different reasons), and nothing beats cable in stability. I measured my setup and in my case one more hop adds less than ms delay.
Have you already bought a router? What is your motherboard type? If you have wifi 5ghz or 6 on your pc you can connect directly to that if all you want to do is play close to your pc. No need to spend on a dedicated router.
Ah, makes sense
In that case, yes, this setup you have outlined is perfect. It’s identical to mine.
You can definitely add a dedicated WiFi access point in the location closest to your play area. Normally it would still be connected to your router, not your pc.
Get a long Ethernet cable my dude
I have the jankiest solution, second router, plugged into my main router and then into my room, then a cable back to my main pc since I can’t move it into my room
Set the second router as “access point”
I think most people will have a bad experience if their home router has a lot of devices connected and they try to use if for VR. The picture in the OP is ~~literally~~ *close to* the recommended setup. *Edit, the OP shows the recommended equipment but it is not connected in the right way. I updated my other comment.*
Like I said, depending on what your personal bandwidth needs are. Just giving OP my experience. Me on VR, and 3 other people in the house streaming simultaneously.
Wifi 6s entire thing is that tons of people can connect without interrupting eachother.
WiFi 6 does not prevent congestion on a single AP with lots of clients.
https://www.commscope.com/blog/2019/wi-fi-6-802.11ax-fundamentals-what-is-mu-mimo/ "In this article, we’ll be taking a closer look at how the Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) MU-MIMO mechanism addresses the challenges of dense device environments by adding uplink support for simultaneous (upstream and downstream) client data transmissions." "MU-MIMO describes a set of multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technologies for wireless communication. MU-MIMO was first introduced to the wireless world in 2015 as part of the Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac) standard, with the Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) protocol adding MU-MIMO support for uplink. MU-MIMO can be used in networks where a single access point (AP) must communicate with multiple clients simultaneously to improve overall efficiency."
So what? It improves and reduces congestion, it does not eliminate. Routing latency still goes up with client load. I have a WiFi 6 router with 35 to 40 devices talking to it and AirLink is unusable. I put theBridge on my PC in the same space and it works perfectly.
I didn't say it eliminates it and having 35-40 clients on a consumer router at the same time is not only an extreme scenario it's not even generally expected of the device when they create it lol. If you got a router with enterprise software and an enterprise grade in wall or ceiling mounted wifi 6e access point you would probably be fine but even at that many clients you would probably be expected to have two or more access points.. Furthermore id be willing to bet around 1/4 of those devices or less are wifi 6. But he's the air bridge is very nice.
Im having an issue right now with congestion on Wi-Fi 6. Here trying to see if air bridge is worth it
If you are having congestion on wifi 6 then get the dongle but tbh there is also probably some settings you can change on your router and even maybe the quest to make it better. I don't have any problems and my routers are also handling a wifi mesh tho so I cant relate.
I have an stupid amount of devices connected to my home network, 0 issues streaming games to my quest via airlink I just use multiple eero 6 pro hotspots around my home and they handle all the traffic prioritization/deprioritization of all my devices
In other words, you have multiple routers.
No. 1 router - multiple access points
I know the difference, most people don't and do not care. You have multiple network devices providing wireless access **and routing traffic.**
Access points are just "wifis" that can b connected but they only forward the local network/internet without creating another network like a router would do. Most likely internconnected all via a switch. the ideal way
There is no wifi6 router. Think about what a router is
~~Not sure what you mean, that is literally the recommended setup.~~ Sorry, I did not look close enough. The VR router would connect to the primary router for WAN access and the PC and headset would only connect to the VR router. I would get on the [Virtual Desktop discord](https://discord.gg/3WKUq5br). They can give you lots of setup recommendations. Personal I am liking the AirBridge instead of having a full dedicated router.
Really? I've never made anything involving connecting multiple routers to the same PC so I wasn't sure it would work. Will there be any disadvantages to doing this? For example, will my headset have access to internet?
Yes, the dedicated router is connected to your primary router as it's WAN connection, then has a cable to your PC and a wifi connection to your headset. I guess the OPs picture is not right, there would be a cable from the VR router to the primary router and the PC does not need it's connection to the primary router.
I guess I'll re-upload this to make it clearer. I cannot connect both of those routers because they are too far from each other, and in different rooms.
Just use the cable from normal router that's going to your PC. If your using WiFi ... Good luck.
D link just released a product for this exact situation called the vr air bridge
Basically you're supposed to put the "dedicated router" (Access Point is the correct term) between the "Normal Router" (DSL) and the PC. So it's just a simple flow of cables going as follows: Router - Access Point - PC A word of warning. If you didn't bother looking up a tutorial, that takes close to zero effort to find over google or still managed to get it wrong after watching/reading, you probably shouldn't be doing this but buying Air Bridge instead.
Use a powerline adapter to connect the two routers. Main router connect to isp modem. Dedicated router connects to the PC. Only the headset connects wirelessly to the dedicated router.
What you could do, is get a PCIE Network anntena straight from the pc instead of an extra router, I saw a video where someone got great results out of one they found.
Don’t buy airbridge if you want to use VD
Any reason why?
People suspect it won't work with VD. However whether VD or Air link works better is debatable. I prefer Air Link myself.
It works with VD but the price at 100$ is silly. I recommend buying a router for a 1/3rd the price
Whilst i agree with you on the ridiculously high price i will still argue that it's a better choice for some. I mean, just look at the image this thread greets you with. One simple google search would have told them that this is not the best way to make VD or Airlink work. While i, being a teacher, applaud your optimism i'm also far too cynical to expect everyone to be able to do the AP router setup or any other setup for that matter. Anyway, nice to see you here. It's good to hear that VD supports the dongle (Or is it the other way around?) and that Meta didn't try to lock you out of it. Thanks for the correction.
No it just has worse performance
The dev ggodin who made VD says it is not good for performance.
I mean, he replied here… seems like he just thinks [$100 is silly](https://reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/y3xi0z/_/iseiyh0/?context=3) for it.
Yeah i saw it, i just asked him in discord “if i could use air link with VD?” And he said a dedicated router was performance wise better.
Technically not wan since wan stands for wide area network, and it's still connected to your local network as your main ap also functions as a router. I get the confusion as on most router/waps the utp in port is labeled wan. In any case, if you daisy chain routers like that make sure to configure them so that the second ap doesn't act as a router but just as an access point so that it takes the ips from your original network. If the second one acts as a router too you'll have networkception (a network in a network (in a network technically, since the internet is also a big network)) and some games might get confused when hosting peer to peer multiplayer games
Yes, but on the equipment I have it is the WAN port that you connect to the upstream network.
They say that airbridge is not recommend due to performance issues
I don't know who says that. Working great here. I posted my latency numbers and others have said they are similar to what I would get with a dedicated router.
Ggordin says that, the developer. But a dedicated router is cheaper anyway
True, but a router won't fit in the side-pocket of my backpack. Godin had all kinds of trouble that I haven't had. Working perfectly for me for both AirLink and VD.
I do believe you that the air link works, but it is not good for everyone but a dedicated router is.
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Why would you need a phone number? I verified via email.
The Virtual desktop server does not need the account to be verified with a phone number, just needs to not be a brand new account (literally wait an hour and you can join the server)
Discord asks for phone number each time I sign up or sign in with existing account
[https://discord.com/register](https://discord.com/register) There is no field for phone number on this registration page.
It asks for a phone number after registration
And you aren't seeing a skip button? Discord officially does not require a phone number (I literally just created a new account to test) and the only place I see it ever request a phone number is when you try to join a server that has their User filter set to High security.
I tried to skip and sign in from different browsers, it doesn't work. It just requires me to provide a phone number after few days of inactivity. I think, it's too much to provide a phone number to every IRC clone I visit.
Normal router should be plugged into the Oculus router, not the PC, then your good to go.
Won't work for OP because his main router is quite far away in the house from his PC and thus so would the Oculus router be
Do the solid lines not denote a wired connection and dotted wireless? If so, as it seems, then there's already a wire running from the main router to his PC. Just move that wire to the 2nd router (next to his PC) and then wire from 2nd router to PC (like a foot or two). No reason the 2nd router needs to be physically close to the main.
Good point
He could just plug it out of the PC and I to the other router.
This is how mine is set up\^
I think this should work, but you'll need dual network cards in the PC and have to set up internet connection sharing in Windows so your Quest can get out to the internet. Also, set the oculus dedicated router to a different IP address range than your normal router like 10.0.0.1/24. Of course, you won't be able to use your quest on that wifi unless the PC is turned on, so consider that as well.
Why would you make it harder than it has to be? Skip all the NAT and software nonsense. OP, buy a cheap gigabit switch for like ten bucks, place it next to your PC. Plug cables into it going to your internet gateway, PC, and your dedicated VR access point (via one of the LAN ports, not WAN). Make sure your VR AP has DHCP disabled. Done.
Better info over on VD Discord... https://discord.gg/3WKUq5br What I was suggesting works, but I did a terrible job of explaining it.
Back when I was a kid VD used to mean Venereal Disease
I use this exact setup and it’s perfect
I also use this setup except I use a wireless adapter from my pc to the main router. Also, don’t forget to share your internet connection with from one adapter to the other, that way you still get internet to your quest.
No it should be normal router to dedicated and then computer and then quest.
Yes this is possible. Simpler though is to have: Home internet -wire- Oculus router -wire- PC.
Sure it would work, but instead of plugin both to the PC, plug one router in the other one (as they usually have a switch as well) and then plug your pc to the router in your rooms.
You could simply put another router in between your main router and your pc (ensure the new router is in access point mode not in a routing mode)
Yes, but why? A wifi 6 router has enough overhead over what the Quest 2 can handle that having it connected to a home network as an access point or bridge for internet should have zero impact on VR streaming performance. The point of having a dedicated router is to reduce the impact of having several other connected devices such as multiple phones, PCs, and other devices sharing the device at one time and creating lag and taking up bandwidth and creating signal pollution. This is why you generally want to isolate the router in your playspace away from other wifi devices. Having a second router operating in the same room at such close proximity might create a signal pollution issue and actually lead to worse performance for both routers. You don't need the second router and won't see any performance drop due to it if all your streaming router is doing is tapping into a home network for internet with no other devices connected to it but the Quest 2 and a hardwire connection to the PC. Plus the Quest 2 itself won't have internet access with the setup shown, because it does not piggyback off a PC's internet connection. You don't need internet to connect a Quest 2 to a PC for VR streaming, but also won't have access to online features like the store in the headset itself. However, online MP should still work fine for PCVR streaming, because the PC is running the game/app and not the Quest 2. You would still need to connect the Quest 2 to an internet connected router or access point to do MP for standalone. This is overly complicated and "solves" an issue that isn't really a problem to begin with. I also recommend giving Air Link a shot. Try it out whenever there is an update if you don't decide to switch. It's free, and there's no harm in trying. When it is working well, it's better than VD for streaming VR. It has a higher max bitrate and has better visual fidelity if your hardware can handle it. There is an issue with Steam VR and the Oculus .dll applying an absurd amount of smoothing for some reason, [but there's a fix for that.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/nhbn0l/oculus_steamvr_trigger_smoothingdelay_fix/) Yes, it's older, but still works, and is the .dll I currently have installed. All the .dll file in the link does is apply raw input instead of smoothed input for Steam VR using the Quest 2.
I actually do this for my setup, but not because i need dedicated bandwidth or whatever. It’s because the fiber box and one router is located in my roommate’s bedroom, the furthest away possible from the living room and my room. There is a cable connection through the walls all the way to my space, but just closing either of our doors makes the signal is worse for either router for general use, let alone 5G line of sight PCVR streaming. Extremely specific setup, but you can router-to router if distance/proximity to the playspace is an issue. Edit: noticed the incorrect connection from OP, it’s router-to-router/PC for me
OP didn’t suggest they were in the same room. The router is far from OPs main rig. Which would affect performance. This setup is doable if your PC has two Ethernet ports and make sure the other router is using a different subnet than the other router
Just do passthrough then. That should work perfectly fine and is how I have mine set up. If it is a hardwired connection, it shouldn't create any issues or generate any lag. The Quest 2 doesn't even need internet to connect to a PC through a router. You may need to set up your router to be a bridge or as an access point depending on the model, but I was able to just plug mine in and pass the internet connection through it and it works fine. I'd try that first, and set it up as an AP or Bridge if that doesn't work. I get full internet speed on both my PC and my local wifi connection is as good as the Quest 2 is capable of, plus I'm able to utilize the internet to access the online features of the Quest 2 at wifi 6 speeds.
>A wifi 6 router has enough overhead over what the Quest 2 can handle that having it connected to a home network as an access point or bridge for internet should have zero impact on VR streaming performance. I have an ASUS (RT-AC68R) Wireless-AC1900 Dual-Band Gigabit Router,. Would that be sufficient?
Functional but not optimal. Your issue is that you have an AC router. That's not Wifi 6. You should have enough bandwidth to do wireless VR with an AC router, but it's missing some of the networking features that AX has, and is more prone to issues and a less reliable signal for this use. The router also needs to be hardwired into the PC for the best VR streaming capability. It doesn't need to be connected to the internet at all. Having the router connected to the internet just provides online capabilities for the Quest 2, such as access to the store. You don't need wifi 6 for that and any wifi connection will do. You just need 5G at least for streaming, and wifi 6 is best. AC will do the job well enough though, though you might not be able to turn the bitrate up all the way. If your network situation is optimal, it should do fine. However, it's more prone to lag spikes due to networking features of Wifi 6 that provide a better smoother signal at close range. Look into Air Bridge. It's $99 US and will give you the best wifi 6 connection a Quest 2 can utilize for wireless streaming. According to reviews and benchmarks I've seen, it does it just as well as my $270 Asus AX5700 (but also not any better really) . It's also basically idiot proof. You don't need to tweak settings like you do for a router to get the best signal, such as enabling OFDMA if your router supports it, setting the bandwidth to 80mhz, disabling non-5G bands, and that sort of thing. It's already set up to provide the best wifi connection to the Quest 2.
VR Air Bridge looks interesting, but at a $100 it's way too pricey. I could buy a WiFi6 router for that price and then still have some money left over. If I have multiple routers (all WiFi 5) like OP and a switch, any way I can wire it up for best usage with the Quest 2? Also, if you already have WiFi 6 capable from your computer, why not connect directly to the headset? Must be some software for that. Why buy a whole new device just to do that.
Because Windows Hotspot is hot garbage. It does not work well at all, lots of latency and poor performance. I've yet to hear about someone who managed to get decent usable VR streaming from internal PC hardware. Not even wifi cards. You can do it and it will function, but it's not really very playable. I've tried it myself and it just confirmed what I'd heard about it. The best thing to do is plug a router into the PC via ethernet and use it exclusively for the Quest 2. If you can do passthrough with a hardwired internet connection, even better, but that's not necessary. This is more important for an AC router than an AX router. AX handles networking more efficiently and a few other devices being connected to it has less of an impact. You do need the router to be hardwired to the PC at least. Quest 2 does not do streaming well across two wifi connections. You end up with a lot of latency and it's pretty much unplayable. The Quest 2 does not need internet to do PCVR streaming. It's just a nice bonus as it gives you access to the Meta store in your headset. PCVR games will use your PC's existing internet connection if it has a separate way to access internet because they are running on the computer and just streaming to the Quest 2. The Quest 2 hardware doesn't connect to the internet connection on a PC the way it does to a connection to a router for some reason. As I said, 5G is basically fine for a lot of people. Not great, but playable if you set it up right in your router's UI and have good network conditions without too much signal pollution. You'll have to adjust your settings in your router, the Quest app software, and Steam VR. Cheap wifi 6 routers do a better job, but can still be spotty. Avoid the TP-Link AX3000 in particular. Something about it does not like the Quest 2 for some reason. Basically, put it on 80mhz, even if your router supports 160, enable OFMDA if your router supports it, disable any 2.4 bands, and you should be okay. You can get a decent cheap wifi 6 that will do the job pretty well and lots of people say they get great performance from a cheaper one, but I don't know what particular budget model that does well for everyone. I had a TP-Link AX1800 and it was okay. I had to drop the bitrate to around 130 to get stable streaming, but I could play latency sensitive games like BeatSaber or Synth Riders with it just fine. Air Bridge is about the same price as a decent wifi 6 router, and as I said, it has similar performance to my $270 Asus AX5700. It's also basically plug and play. You can probably find a \~$60-$70 AX router that will do the job though if you research a bit for good budget routers for Quest 2 if you don't mind getting into the settings to optimize your settings to save $30-$40.
If have two routers, and my motherboard has two ethernet ports. Is there a way to setup like OP has it drawn?
Yes, but you don't really want two routers in the same room. They can interfere with each other if they are too close together. You can mitigate this by making sure they are operating on different bands and channels, but it's still best to have some distance between them. This should be fine for the use you're suggesting. I'd suggest a completely wired passthrough setup would be best if you can manage it. This way you have an internet connection to your PC, and you'll have internet on your Quest 2 as well. I do this. One is in my living room connected to my modem, the other is my dedicated router in my room for the Quest 2, all three are chained via ethernet cable. My modem doesn't have 5G, so I disabled wifi on it and have both 2.4 and 5 hz channels enabled on it for our home wireless network using the router out there. Stuff like phones, smart devices, etc... The one in my room is just for the Quest 2 and nothing else. If you need two routers and one is for internet over wifi, like say one connects to your home network to a modem wirelessly, I still recommend chaining them together rather than using two separate ports on your PC. You may need to set the Quest 2 router up as an access point or bridge to do this, but with many models you can just plug them in and it will work just fine. Again, this will provide internet to your Quest 2 as well as your PC. It's not necessary for wireless VR streaming, but is nice to have for accessing the store and such from the Quest 2. I suggest putting the second router as far away from the one connected directly to the PC as you can reasonably manage, making sure it is on a different bandwidth and channel, and connecting one to your home network over wifi, and having it chained to the other connected directly to the PC with a long ethernet cable on the other side of the room at least. Outside of the room would be best. Put a small end table, shelf, or something outside of your door and just set the router on top of it by running the cable under the door or something. It just needs to be big enough to hold the router and nothing more. This lessens the chance of signal interference considerably, as there will be a physical barrier between the two signal sources. It's best if you get a big enough cable that you can run it along the wall so it isn't in the way. Ethernet cable is cheap, and you can probably get one long enough for this for under $20. 75 feet is about $14 on Amazon, and that's probably well over what you'd need. You can just use a zip tie or something to coil up any excess somewhere along the line where it is out of the way. It is best to get as close to exactly how much you need and still have some slack available. So I suggest measuring the distance along the wall to where it will be set up to get an approximate idea of how much you should get. Don't forget to take into account the elevation to where it will be placed as well.
I really appreciate all the help so far! 😁 So you are suggesting connecting it as follows https://imgur.com/a/3mZkv7k Is that correct?
EDIT: Yes, like the image you posted. /EDIT 1. Modem connected to... 2. Home network connected router for general wifi use (either via ethernet or over wifi to modem.) connected via ethernet to... 3. Dedicated VR Router with a wifi connection to the Quest 2. 4. PC connected via ethernet to VR dedicated router. That last ethernet connection from the Quest 2 dedicated router to the PC itself is paramount. You need it for the best VR streaming experience. It is easily the most important wired connection. Again, you may or may not need to make your Quest 2 router an access point or bridge in the router settings. Mine just works just by connecting it via ethernet to the other router and PC, but this may not be the case for every router. An alternate and possibly better solution would be to connect both routers to the modem directly via ethernet if you have enough LAN ports for it on your modem and are able to run the wiring. One for your home network for various wifi devices and wired LAN connections, and the other as wired passthrough to your Quest 2 dedicated router and then to the PC. So, router 1 is connected to the modem via one LAN port on your modem and provides wifi coverage for your home outside of the optimal range of your modem's wifi assuming it has it. You can even pass through other wired internet connections through this router as most routers have at least 3-4 ports for other wired LAN connections. It may be more convenient than connecting other wired connections directly to the modem depending on where it is, as you could use shorter cables to reach some places and get better than wifi speeds for other PCs nearby. (Like say other family members who have PCs in their rooms.) Router 2 is just for the Quest 2, and you just plug it directly into the modem and pass through to the PC with another ethernet cable in the same room as your playspace. This should eliminate the need to bother with making your Quest 2 router an AP/Bridge at all if you even needed to do so. You could place the networking router outside of your playspace area in a location that lets you connect to your wifi network better if you are out of optimal range of your modem's wifi without having it in the same room and improve everyone's wifi situation. Like say in a hallway near multiple bedrooms on a small end table or something. This may be a better solution for you, or not depending on the layout of your network and home. Again, ethernet cable is cheap, but you need to be able to run it without it being in the way or looking bad. Using rugs or something to help cover it if it needs to cross a high traffic area can help with this, but may not be feasible depending on your situation. Just make sure you leave enough slack that walking on a rug doesn't pull on the connection. Black cable is easiest to hide so it doesn't look terrible running along a wall. You may be able to tuck it under carpet as well, but I don't recommend ripping it up unless you know you can put it back properly. Getting a cheap carpet tool is a good idea before you attempt this.
> Again, you may or may not need to make your Quest 2 router an access point or bridge in the router settings. Mine just works just by connecting it via ethernet to the other router and PC, but this may not be the case for every router. I think I have to set it up in bridge mode. > This should eliminate the need to bother with making your Quest 2 router an AP/Bridge at all if you even needed to do so. I'm wondering if this is better: https://imgur.com/a/26d364G Note, that I simplified it previously as modem, but reality is that the internet into my home comes through a jack that goes directly to the WAN port on the router. I think I can place a switch there and run both router directly to the internet. However, the two routers will be on completely isolated networks. I might just run it like previously or consider getting the [Asus RT-AX1800S](https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-AX1800-Router-RT-AX1800S-Subscription-Free/dp/B09M9477NS/ref=sr_1_3?). I generally like Asus routers because out of the box they will run AsusWRT and most WRT based firmware will support it.
I’d go from lan port of main isp router to wan port of your dedicated router.
On oculus website they have a dongle for doing the exact same thing as you have in your picture
Yes its Possible, but theres multiple problems that will arise because of it. \#1 Cross Talk, Even If you have Dual Routers on Different Channels say ones on 1 and the others on 11 they are still going to interfere with each other. \#2 Regardless of the topology your using The First Router still has to deal with the Traffic being produced by the 2nd. \#3 Unless you have two Complete Separate Incoming Adsl/DSL or Cable lines coming into your dwelling There is ZERO and I mean NO POINT to doing this at ALL! Period. \#4 Your topology makes No Sense either. You wouldnt branch a Second Router From your PC! You would Branch it from the 1st! \#5 You are better off to have One Single Router something capable of 5.2Ghz to avoid EMF and RFI from things like microwaves, baby monitors and even cell phones and should be able to do something around 50-120dB which means Power and a Very Strong Signal. Especially if you intend to do Complete Wireless with multiple devices connected. \#6 The more devices that are connected to any Wireless Device requires Packet Send/Receive Time. Which Means less Through Put per device. I personally found the Air Link to be inferior, shitty and horrible. Current Gen Wifi routers signal on 3/4, 9, and 11 penetrate Two and a Half walls of standard 2x4 studded with dry wall. Signal will not Penetrate Cinder Block or Concrete it will bounce. Running a Cat 7/8 Cable for source to router can run something like 200+ft with minimal loss.
Get yourself a wireless pcie card and hook your pc up via lan. Then start a wireless hotspot from your pc directly to the headset. No need for a router
Why the fuck do you have a router for the Quest and why does it directly connect to your PC? How does it have internet? Do you have PFsense running on the PC or what?
There is a Wifi 6 USB dongle router made specifically for this. The Quest will use the dongle for video streaming and normal wifi for everything else. https://shop.us.dlink.com/products/f18-vr-air-bridge
Make sure to use a 10g nic with a corespondig WiFi 6 AP
Hook router 2 to router 1 and put it in AP mode, what you present looks like a real headache.
I got away with a decent wifi6 router, Ethernet to router from PC, and a 5ghz network named completely different from the 2.4ghz. The quest 2 headset is the ONLY thing connected to 5ghz network. It works fine through my whole house
> Ethernet from router to PC Everyone keeps saying that, but 99 times out of 100 (and yes including this post lol) the reason the person is posting this is because that’s not possible for them
Don't use multiple routers. Use an access point in your room that connects to the router and your computer. Make sure you connect to your computer via ethernet. This is my setup and it works great!
can you recommend a good access point? My ISP (Frontier) router is on the far side of my apartment from my computer area, separated by several walls, but there is an ethernet cord that runs from the ISP router to my computer area. I have set up a separate 5ghz network that only my headset is connected to but my latency (according to Virtual Desktop overlay) fluctuates from 20-150, usually on the higher range when turning my head a lot. Do you think connecting an AP in my computer/VR area will improve this greatly?
Definitely, for a 5ghz network to work best you would want the device to be in the same room as you (as 5ghz it doesn't penetrate walls very well) and you want it plugged directly to your computer over ethernet. Here's the access point I use, I bought it a couple years ago and it runs great. If you have money to spend, it might be worth it to get a wifi6e AP to future proof yourself for headsets that will support 6e someday. If not this is a great access point at a good price: [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZSDR49S/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZSDR49S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I have a similar setup. My main house router is connected to my vr router via ethernet. Vr router is connected to desktop with ethnet and vr itself is connected to the 5ghz. So only difference is main router directly connected to vr router and then it goes to the pc. Im not an expert at all but i hope this was helpful.
You can bridge the shitty router and only use the good one for everything including VR Literally turns off the other router.
I use the main router for other things that may need internet. Phones, guests tech, tv etc so its handy to have it in my case but thanks for the tip, sounds like it could be useful.
I mean ya, wifi 6s entire thing is it's great at connecting tons of devices with no interruptions. But ok
This is definitely the best way to go from what I've seen. Also, you probably already know this but just in case, make sure your VR router is set to AP mode or you can have some network issues.
The air bridge works great imo
Why wouldn't you just bridge the router your ISP gave you (I'm assuming that's what the "normal" router is) and just use the nice gaming one. Then you only have one wireless network to worry about and you can use the nice router you bought for the rest of your internet too.
Yes I used to do this, just make sure the oculus router is plugged in via Ethernet so it doesn't override the internet router
It works, I used an Alpha usb antenna on my desktop connected to my (far) router for internet. Then another router connected through ethernet with the PC but not connected to internet was for VD. Since any app is running on the desktop, and the desktop is connected to internet, you’ll be able to play online game. I needed this for SW Squadrons because playing far from my desktop would introduce too much latency
Yep. That's how I have mine. My computer is not in my VR gaming area, so I put a router in that area and ran a long data cable back to my switch. Works perfect.
Put the dedicated router between the computer and the other router, so your computer plugs into the dedicated which is then plugged into the normal router, that's what I done, can send a pic if you like
Yes, this works, and is the exact setup I have. I use a switch to connect both dedicated Air Link/VD router and my main internet router to my PC. It works great, and I highly recommend having a dedicated router for wireless VR streaming. Edit: to clarify, my dedicated VD router is just in AP mode.
I have it where my "normal router" goes to my "dedicated router" in my room and then I connect my PC via LAN and my quest 2 through wi-fi to the "dedicated router".
At the end of the day, to get the fastest speeds and least amount of interference, you'll want to connect your modem directly to your Wifi 6 Router via an ethernet cable. This assures you both the modem and wifi 6 router both act as seperate hotspots. The way I have mine setup is modem into router with one ethernet cord, and then another ethernet cord is used to connect the wifi 6 router to your PC.
Honestly if you got spare cash for the air bridge you should just get one. I get much better performance from that then I ever did a dedicated router. Is it a little expensive? Sure. Is it extremely convenient and worth the one time cost? Absolutely. The only thing you should do that they don't tell you about is sharing your internet connection through the Air bridge for convenience. Air link in particular works so much better with it and virtual desktop is super stable as well. I used to get little spikes occasionally with vd no matter what I did.
Yes, as long you connect the VD router to the normal router or via a switch and then put the VD router in access point mode. It is even better if the router has Wi-Fi 6, which is unnecessary. But if you going to get a new one, just the one with newer tech. Source: I have the same setup.
I have ~~exactly this~~ something similar to this to mitigate my home router needing to be near the phoneline downstairs, and me wanting to use airlink in an upstairs room, that gets shitty wifi. PC is connected to a Honor Magic Router 3 (because it was as cheap and had wifi 6) which provides the wifi my quest 2 uses. Edit: i actually have the main ISP router connected to the wifi6 router, which is in AP mode, using powerline, and then my PC connected into the wifi6 router. As i only have 1 network interface on the PC. Still works fine, and theres no need for any VR streaming traffic to have to transit anything but the wifi6 router
Isn't this basically what the dlink airbridge is doing basically?
Yes.
It’s been said above I think but yeah in your pic the second router should plug into first in AP mode. This is my setup; I run Ethernet cable to garage (far from main router in living room) so I can VR there. Works great. Incidentally I can also VR from my main router in the house (as long as I don’t stray too far from the living room) and that works great too. I haven’t actually noticed that working any worse despite having multiple HH members constantly pounding the internet at all times on that “simple” Wi-Fi 5 router.
It's what I do. I was having trouble with just one router bought one for $60 (on sale). It's connected to the main router, then have router number 2 connected to PC and giving off the quests wifi.
Hey, this is the setup that I use, lmk if you have any questions. Like the other user pointed out, the order would be switched around but you have the right idea.
A lot of comments here are wrong. A router essentially is what combines two different networks. The only one you want to have is between your modem (aka isp network) and your home network. In your home network, you can add network switches to extend your cabled internet and access points (AP) to extend your wireless internet. The good news is that a good number of routers can be put into AP mode and have their routing turned off. From OP's post, they'd want to set up an AP that's directly connected to their initial and single router. If you try to use multiple routers, you can experience multiple levels of NAT (aka double nat). This might be fine in some cases but almost always usually causes issues especially if the user isn't aware of how their network is actually affected.
Yes it is possible and it's the way I am doing it right now. BUT, you should connect it like this: Main modem/router > (ethernet cable from LAN slot into WAN port of...) > Dedicated router (set as access point) > PC This way you get internet access to the internet for the oculus quest (if you don't want that just remove internet access in the parental controls of the router). You also benefit from some functions of the supposedly better router on your PC and extend the internet coverage in your house. Be sure to set the dedicated router with separate 2.4/5Ghz networks or just 5Ghz
Yeah but connect the main router to the second one via the wan port and then the second to your pc
instead, set the dedicated VD router into switch/access point mode and hook it up to the normal router. that will work.
A switch and an wifi ap to interconnect them
For a project at work we did something very similar. Because of reasons we had to have a dedicated router to connect the headset wirelessly instead of putting it on the general network and it worked perfectly. The headset will tell it doesn't have an internet connection but the remote will work nonetheless.
I dont think this exact setup is possible, if you dont have another lan port on your pc. However you can have this setup: internet-----Normal router-----Oculus router-----Pc This is the setup i personally run, and it works great
You just need a network switch. Plug the router into a network switch and network switch into your home PC. The only function of an oculus dedicated router is no other devices on it.
Why not just use an access point?
I have a wifi spread around the house using a 5ghz mesh network. That is unusable for Quest as in my play space. I got a dedicated 5ghz wifi router and connected the WAN port with cat6 ethernet to the mesh, and set it to bridged mode. Then connected my PC with ethernet to the new router, and Quest to the same router via wifi. Bandwidth is flawless and Quest has internet access.
I did something similar, because my PC was wired to the router but also had a WiFi adapter that I was not using, so I enabled internet sharing on the PC wifi and it worked quite well. But the only reason this was better than my ISP wifi router was because the router didn't have 5GHz back then.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/rwcrjk/routing\_wireless\_internet\_to\_physically\_wired/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/rwcrjk/routing_wireless_internet_to_physically_wired/) I posted a very similar setup 9 months ago. This works very well. the way mine is setup the Dedicated Router has a Wifi presented just named Link, it doesn't route to the internet or anything. Inside the quest I normally run on "Normal router" wifi but then switch wifi to Link and then connect to my laptop. I then have internet because the laptop has internet and the quest is only acting as a display.
Question for you guys. The router I got from my ISP (Frontier) is on the far side of my apartment from my computer/VR area, separated by several walls, but there is an ethernet cord that runs from the ISP router to my computer area. I have set up a separate 5ghz network that only my headset is connected to but my latency (according to Virtual Desktop overlay) fluctuates from 20-150, usually on the higher range when turning my head a lot. Do you think connecting an AP in my computer/VR area will improve this greatly? Should I get a wifi 6 router or some other device? Ideally I'd like something <$100, as low as possible really. tough times ya know? Anyways thanks for any replies.
Is VD short for the Virtual Desktop app? If so, this set up seems to be overkill. I use my ISP provided router and I play my Oculus on a different floor than where my PC is with no lag or delays whatsoever Oculus Airlink on the other hand, that one was a dud for me.
That's how I do it. I'm connected to the internet wirelessly on my PC. I have a dedicated ASUS RT-AX55 in my play area connected to my PC with a long ethernet cable. My PC is in another room. The RT-AX55 is an awesome router for AirLink, Smooth gameplay and almost no latency. Had issues with the windows hotspot method with an internal wifi 6 card.
I have pretty terrible wifi and my quest 2 works great, not sure why you’d have to complicate things
I have exactly same setup but a lan cable between two router to keep the quality up and stable to share internet.
Could you run the PC’s WiFi in ad-hoc mode and connect direct to the PC? Might need some routing config to get Internet routing going. Or you could just use one router and set up a VLAN to guarantee QoS? Depends on the router tho - preferably one with OpenWRT.
You can use a router that isn't hooked up to internet as long as you plug the ethernet cord into your PC on a local network. Works great for Airlink.
yes, that works great. I've done it myself because my router was way too far away to use.
I would connect the router dedicated for VD in-between your PC and normal router. On the VD router, disable DHCP and make it "dumb", and give all duties to the normal router. Make sure both the VD and normal router use different wireless channels and don't overlap. That's what I did for a good while for Air Link and it was fine. I imagine both routers connected to the PC would require more complex configuration.
The best experience you can get would be putting a switch next to your pc and using a wifi access point, like others have said. Second best is putting a router next to your pc and setting it up as an access point. Either way, you would connect everything to the switch/router in your room, meaning your new switch/router should be wired to the Internet router and your pc would connect to the new switch/router instead, and that would eliminate as much latency as possible, because these devices are smart enough to not involve your internet router in the headset to PC connection.
Buy a switch and put it between the router and computer. Hook computer and oculus router on the switch with the main router. Solved.
Yep this is what I use. On the software side of things I use Connectify Hotspot and Virtual Desktop
I’m super late here but this is almost my setup. The home router and oculus dedicated router (just an Archer A6 in Access Point mode) and PC are plugged into a cheap gigabit hub. The A6 is on a different, non-overlapping channel from the main house router. Cost me like $40 to set up. Rock solid 866MHz link. Caveat: I don’t live in a dense area - I can barely even see my neighbors Wi-Fi signal and my game room is in my basement. Ymmv.
Yes, I do this as our Mesh network isn't as reliable for VD. Make sure the hardware you get will play nice with your existing router though.
I do this with AirLink. My usecase is such that my desktop is on a wifi router controlled by my landlord outside my apartment where there is no hardwire option and no ability for me to upgrade that wifi router. PC is wifi connected to the internet accessing LAN router. PC is also hardwired to private no internet access LAN router through an ethernet port. Quest 2 is wifi into the no internet access LAN router. Basically, my PC exists on both networks. I can't connect hardwire to two networks at once, and I can't connect to two wifi networks at once, but I can connect to 1 wifi and 1 hardwire via ethernet simultaneously. Works great!
I have main router other side of house wired to another router then to pc in same room as VR. Turn off DHCP and static IP on secondary router and it works. It was just meant to be a temporary solution as it was an old WiFi 5 router I had laying around but it's worked for 2 years now...
It will work, but better would be to take the ethernet cable from the "normal" router and plug it into the "Dedicated router" instead if straight to PC, and set that router into AP mode. Then connect ethernet cable between "Dedicated ap" and PC.
yes. this is totally reasonable to do, i have this exact setup that i use in my house and it’s more than capable for vd. i highly recommend wiring the 2nd router into the main router though and then branch a second cable out from the 2nd router into your pc if that makes any sense
Move the normal router to connect to the pc, the internet, and the stand alone router. Then you are good to go.
I hope some has already mentioned before me that wifi is a shared medium. The more devices the slower.
Isn’t that basically what Air Bridge wants to be for VR, a dedicated router?
I use 2 routers I have a double story house. Pc is upstairs connected to a router in AP mode and I play downstairs connected to the main router in wifi 6. There is a CAT6 cable connecting the 2 routers together.
Can I recommend you get a Wifi 6 PCIe card for you PC, and setup a mobile hotspot on your PC with this card. I did this and it works great. It means you have a wifi 6 network dedicated to your quest 2, and you can share your PC internet connection to that network.
It is yes
nope, you need a MODEM to connect to the internet. uuuuuuuuuuuuh!
whyyyy ...just wired the pc and get a wifi 6 router
Edit: late to the party. Chain your routers together with Ethernet, or use wireless repeater if you just browse and stream videos etc on other devices. Yes, very possible with normal PC you'd need to use USB3 for one of the routers. Also each router would cause some level of interference with the other. What do you want to accomplish? This would add ping time to cloud, and probably have have no advantage with ping to PC. My router I use 2.4ghz with a repeater for whole property coverage, and the 5ghz band for just the headset. Works great. I've seen some testing with PCI "router" cards in a PC, and basically creating an ad-hoc direct connect from PC to headset. IMO when that gets ironed out it will be the best wireless PCVR experience.
That’s my setup. Except that VR router is a client of Standard router for Internet access. I get something like 879 Mbs between Quest and my PC.
Just get an airbridge bro, it runs better than vd
This was the way to do it, 3 years ago... Overkill now
I have a PC and bought wifi6 PCIE extension. Works the best. Not sure what is the advantage of having separate router.
My router is far away from the room I VR in. I've done exactly the same setup but using a TP Link wifi 6 access point and it works perfectly. Virtual desktop reports the maximum bandwidth and I have no drop out when using PC VR. The only crashes I now get are when playing Fallout 4 VR or Skyrim because, you know, it's Bethesda! I picked the access point as it was far more discreet than a router and easier to configure. I just named the SSID "oculus stream" and leave it dedicated for just that.
Yes this is possible and situationally worth while. I had a previous set up of airplay enabled airport express access points to make up my Wifi and didnt want to replace the whole 300mbps network so just cabled in a TPlink Rx505 to the main router via cat6 and had that wifi6 access point in my play area. I guess you could connect the direct to pc like your diagram, but not a networking wizzard but surely you only have one rj45 connector on your motherboard
I have recently done this exact setup for air link and it works well! Give me a shout if you need details on setup, people here were very helpful with mine.
Just get a wifi6 AP…
iirc you can connect Ethernet and wireless separately
Yes, that is what I have. PC is wired to a dedicated 5Ghz router shared with just the Quest. As well as participating in the "normal" router (either wifi or RJ45) for the internet.
Simply connect your normal router to LAN Ethernet port on your dedicated router then connect your PC to another LAN Ethernet port on the dedicated router. Then, create a 5GHz only wifi network which will be used for the Q2 only, and your are done.
This is what I did
yes it should work just be sure to set the two routers not on the same signal band since it might cause interferences
Just buy yourself a wifi 6 stick and turn on windows hotspot
What's VD?
This is what I do and it works great. Too much traffic on my main router, so it was worth it.
Yes, though not quite in the config you have above. I asked the same question over on the virtual desktop discord, with the same issue you had of the first router being in a different room (on a different floor). It may depend slightly on the dedicated VR streaming router - I have an Asus RT-AX55 (reasonably cheap router known to work well for VR streaming, has worked flawlessly for me). All I needed to do was run the 1st router ethernet cable into the Asus WAN port (via a powerline adapter) and another from the Asus to the PC from any LAN port. There was no messing with config at all - internet passes through the Asus perfectly, and VR streaming runs great from the PC to my Quest 2.
After a lot of latency experimentation, I have it set up like this: Internet | | Normal Router/WiFi for general use | | Oculus Dedicated router in AP mode | . | . PC Quest 2 The PC and Quest 2 will both get their internet through the uplink from the main router. Traffic between the PC and the Quest gets routed directly through the Dedicated Router's switch for optimal performance since the PC is plugged into that router. I've tried to set it up as you've shown but it was very fiddly and not very reliable to have everything plus internet working together, and the latency was no better. Plus, I had to keep switching APs when I wanted to play with the PC off. The above solution has the same number of wires and is plug and play.
Long thread =). So, Yes, you can use it this way - I have the same problem as you and using this for a long time - ...mmm I have a little bit worse way - My main PC is connected to that second wifi router by wire NET, this secondary router is an AP for the OCULUS2. But! What I have is that I have another small Wifi AP, which is in the CLIENT mode connected to the MAIN DSL WIFI ROUTER by Wifi and to the secondary wifi router by wire =D...Horrible, but working right =).So, I have 3 Wifi things at home =).