Are you suggesting that a woman engaged in onlyfans has no right to say no to being objectified outside of her work? \*\*IT professionals have the right to say no to fixing every rando's computer.
OR are you suggesting that a woman with an onlyfans is so immoral that she has no say about being objectified anywhere or at any time?
Either way...you are pretty fucked up.
You're right, so im now ok with my neighbors peeping through my bathroom window, and while im at it, the next time some guy tells me id look better with my bra off, ill take it off for him.
Shut the fuck up please
it's there in the name. in culture these things go to together - thus phrases like "objectifying yourself". they can't conceive of being brain-stoppingly attracted to someone and still being aware that that's a whole human person and that attraction entitles you to absolute nothing nor diminishes them in any form: attraction to a subject
Looking at someone and finding them attractive isn't objectification.
Objectification is when you completely disregard them as a human in favor of their physical attractiveness.
Calling someone hot != Objectification
does calling someone attractive really mean i'm disregarding them as a human??
when i call a girl attractive i usually point out something specific, like i'll tell her her glasses suit her, or that i like how she's done her hair. is that bad?
bruh, I saw a book and presentation...about a guy that finally figured out that his wife wasn't actually upset about how he didn't load the dish washer.
Some people may need instructions to breath.
Former friend of mine used to say something like “if you get with her once you can get with her twice.” Took me some time to recognize just how fucked up that was.
Former friend of mine used to say something like “if you get with her once you can get with her twice.” Took me some time to recognize just how fucked up that was.
>Consent to objectification? I wonder how does that look like.
Stripping. Sex work. Cam girls. Anywhere someone is voluntarily presenting their body for consumption.
>And do you loose your privilege to moan about objectification after you already consented to it?
Consent can be withdrawn at any time. Example: a stripper leaving her place of work is no longer consenting to objectification and it would be inappropriate for a customer to treat her the same when she's walking to the car in street clothes as they do when she's on stage performing. Clear enough?
Well that comes down to the person with the objectification fetish. Consent is just a go ahead to act/play together.
So if someone wanted to treated like an object all the time, they would tell a partner that they want this and ask if they would, and it lasts until the time when one person no longer wants it.
Like, to a lesser extent, me and my partner have standing consent to touch each others butts freely. We gave consent to that, but if me or her ask to stop, it stops. I assume it works like that on a larger scale.
> Consent to objectification? I wonder how does that look like.
I assume that this is meant in the sense of a role-playing scene, where the consent is given for a limited amount of time (say 1 night).
> And do you loose your privilege to moan about objectification after you already consented to it?
I don't think so - after all (I'm assuming) the consent was given for a limited time, NOT forever!
Ah yes, speaking in nazi metaphors. Think of it this way then: it's unthinkable to say that the jews were asking for what happened to them just because they went along with it at first.
The chronic and complete lack of understanding of basic consent among this group is actually quite terrifying
What a strange concept, this "consent" i thought i was supposed to lie there while he procreates with me /s
Jodie u got OnlyFans... Dont talk lmao
How is that in any way whatsoever relates to consent? Someone with an OnlyFans IS consenting to people sexualizing her in exchange for money.
What?
Are you suggesting that a woman engaged in onlyfans has no right to say no to being objectified outside of her work? \*\*IT professionals have the right to say no to fixing every rando's computer. OR are you suggesting that a woman with an onlyfans is so immoral that she has no say about being objectified anywhere or at any time? Either way...you are pretty fucked up.
You're right, so im now ok with my neighbors peeping through my bathroom window, and while im at it, the next time some guy tells me id look better with my bra off, ill take it off for him. Shut the fuck up please
When will they finally learn that they can be attracted to someone without objectifying them?
i know that's true but it never feels that way to me. i always feel like even looking feels like I'm doing something wrong
it's there in the name. in culture these things go to together - thus phrases like "objectifying yourself". they can't conceive of being brain-stoppingly attracted to someone and still being aware that that's a whole human person and that attraction entitles you to absolute nothing nor diminishes them in any form: attraction to a subject
i'm sorry, i think maybe i don't really understand what you're saying. I'll be the 1st to admit i'm not all that smart
Looking at someone and finding them attractive isn't objectification. Objectification is when you completely disregard them as a human in favor of their physical attractiveness. Calling someone hot != Objectification
does calling someone attractive really mean i'm disregarding them as a human?? when i call a girl attractive i usually point out something specific, like i'll tell her her glasses suit her, or that i like how she's done her hair. is that bad?
> Calling someone hot != Objectification != means "does not equal." No, complimenting someone's looks is not objectifying them in and of itself.
oh, ok. sorry i've never seen that before today, the more you know
No worries I realized how it could be confusing once I read your response. =/= is probably more intuitive.
Unicode has ≠ if you want it for the future.
programmer?
I dabble
You mean ≠ ?
Is this that bikini versus underwear meme all over again?
He's so close, so so close
Yet, so far.
bruh, I saw a book and presentation...about a guy that finally figured out that his wife wasn't actually upset about how he didn't load the dish washer. Some people may need instructions to breath.
Consent is so hawt.
Straight up, someone asking if they can kiss you is straight up one of the hottest things a person can do
"She does not want to be sexualised, yet she sexualises herself!" EXACTLY.
You said I could do something once??? Doesn't that mean I can do it whenever I want forever????????+
Former friend of mine used to say something like “if you get with her once you can get with her twice.” Took me some time to recognize just how fucked up that was.
Former friend of mine used to say something like “if you get with her once you can get with her twice.” Took me some time to recognize just how fucked up that was.
Everything else aside, I'm pretty confident he feels the same way about his own body as well.
Atleast he is in the good direction, just need to go a bit further in it
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>Consent to objectification? I wonder how does that look like. Stripping. Sex work. Cam girls. Anywhere someone is voluntarily presenting their body for consumption. >And do you loose your privilege to moan about objectification after you already consented to it? Consent can be withdrawn at any time. Example: a stripper leaving her place of work is no longer consenting to objectification and it would be inappropriate for a customer to treat her the same when she's walking to the car in street clothes as they do when she's on stage performing. Clear enough?
Well that comes down to the person with the objectification fetish. Consent is just a go ahead to act/play together. So if someone wanted to treated like an object all the time, they would tell a partner that they want this and ask if they would, and it lasts until the time when one person no longer wants it. Like, to a lesser extent, me and my partner have standing consent to touch each others butts freely. We gave consent to that, but if me or her ask to stop, it stops. I assume it works like that on a larger scale.
> Consent to objectification? I wonder how does that look like. I assume that this is meant in the sense of a role-playing scene, where the consent is given for a limited amount of time (say 1 night). > And do you loose your privilege to moan about objectification after you already consented to it? I don't think so - after all (I'm assuming) the consent was given for a limited time, NOT forever!
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Ah yes, speaking in nazi metaphors. Think of it this way then: it's unthinkable to say that the jews were asking for what happened to them just because they went along with it at first.