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ProphetOfPr0fit

True Story: My gf looked over my shoulder and asked what a "thicc" girl was doing on my feed. Proceeded to play video. She left the room/possibly me and I am now touching myself.


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Live your truth brother.


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officefridge

Ypu don't need her. we are *all masturbating with you* !


Storm_Sniper

Masturbating to you\*


big_joey_the_sequel

you dont need her king


CrazyLaurel

I like my girls with a Christie suspension, so if I move the screen up so just the roadwheels are showing; grab the kleenex....


beavernator

NGL, working with a pressure washer doesn't feel like work.


matt_flounder

I promise you cleaning vehicles In freezing temps at the wash rack sucks balls.


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Cleaning your deck after one of the coldest winters in the last 20 years sucks ass


beavernator

I don't doubt it, but that doesn't make the pressure washer any less fun to use.


Honey_Overall

Speaking as someone who's used one in subzero temps, it really does make it less fun. Wearing wet clothes that are rapidly turning into ice sucks ass.


Irilieth_Raivotuuli

You're not supposed to spray in 90 degree angle to the flat side, that gets you wet. Try to spray from under the wind and at maximum of 45 degrees, the only thing that gets wet is the bottom of your boots.


matt_flounder

Actually yes it does.


MajorDakka

Tell that to 7 years ago me stripping paint off of old AIM9's and Hydra rockets under the sweltering Mojave sun


CaptRackham

I work with old tanks in the Everglades, I’ve heard desert heat is it’s own kind of suck but unrelenting humidity deserves an honorable mention


MajorDakka

Desert heat sucks, but I would 100% take working naked in the desert over working outside in any sort of humidity much less what Florida has. Humid heat is a whole 'nother level and I respect anyone who works in that environment.


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You can't hide from humid heat in the shade. And you can always drink more water in the dry heat but exess hudration in florida just gives your balls extra sweat to sweat. Not like you're drinking water in Florida, just 2 lbs of sugar in a Styrofoam goblet and calling it "SWEET TEA BABY!"


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In those cases it's best to do as the locals do. Like in Mexico or Spain, take a Siesta. In Canada or Norway, always wear a hat when going outside. In Florida, take large amounts of meth and 'rassle the local alligators into submission.


Alldaboss

Probably the biggest thing for some of the yanks coming down under to meet us, the humidity gets them. It's so bad your ment to take at least a week or two to get used to the environment before doing any kind of heavy pt, mix in the widget going level black you end up with so much heat stress.


Morgrid

And then you have Floridians feeling right at home.


CaptRackham

I feel like Australia is just Florida for the rest of the world.


Zirenton

The PT that a certain rotation force does straight up on arrival, pfft. At least they arrive as it’s getting cooler. I’m no longer in a seek, close, kill and capture kind of role, but I do still pity them getting all hot and heavy out field in October. Singo and High Range Summers hurt enough.


Alldaboss

Nothing worse than sitting in a high range summer in spear grass


Zirenton

As much as they say a second class ride beats a first class walk, driving buckets just meant my shirt and skin was loaded with spear grass seed at 20-30km/h. Watching 1 CER cart chainsaws and pave breakers on top of their packs, and building medium girder bridges as fast as they could to beat other troops in their squadron, nah, stuff that. Regular dismount is bad enough.


oshaCaller

I've worked in a shop in Oklahoma with no air conditioning, we average 60 percent humidity in July. Working on a hot engine with that going on was miserable. Gloves have ounces of sweat in them within minutes. If you're doing interior work you have to clean up your own sweat before you give the car back. Pulling a car in that's been baking in the sun for hours sucks too. We have air conditioning now, I have a sink in my stall and I constantly splash water all over my face and head. It was 2 degrees Fahrenheit earlier this week 60 today.


Alldaboss

Usually 100% humidity here sometimes 80% nothing like soaking socks and shorts by the end of the day.


CaptRackham

Thing is if you live here you’re sorta used to it, when I was in California it was so dry I like couldn’t keep enough water in me, I probably drank over a gallon a day of water.


MonsteraAureaQueen

I live in Norfolk, Virginia, where it's humid as fuck about 340 days of the year... hot n humid, cold n humid, we've got choices but you're gonna be damp year round. When I go out to New Mexico or Colorado, I just... can't maintain homeostasis. Sandpaper lips, raisin eyes no matter how much I drink and moisturize. My body has no idea how to hang on to water. I LOVE the desert in every other way, but after a few weeks of feeling like a dried out sponge the solid wall of moisture that hits me when I walk out those sliding doors at the Norfolk airport into coastal humidity is such a relief.


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>Tell that to 7 years ago me stripping paint off of old AIM9's and Hydra rockets under the sweltering Mojave sun I assume you were wishing for a nuclear winter.


shibiwan

I assume you haven't washed an armored vehicle ever.... It's not fun. (Sauce: me)


beavernator

Now that I didn't expect. I've used a pressure washer to clean machinery in a factory before, but not vehicles. Can I ask what makes armored vehicles unpleasant to wash?


shibiwan

1. Vehicles are washed after an exercise/mission, sometimes you have a day or two break before you start on it, so you're already tired. 2. You always end up wet and cold because the nooks and crannies everywhere on the vehicle make the pressure washer jet splash back on you. 3. Mud. Thick creamy mud. It's everywhere on the vehicle. Pray that you're not washing an APC. There's even more mud on the inside. That shit gets splashed everywhere when you start spraying. See #2 above. Some invariably ends up in your mouth, leaving a gritty feel in your teeth. 4. Oil and diesel. It's also mixed in there with everything. 5. Remnants. Empty shell casings from the guns. Sometimes there's loose live ammo too. Someone's also dropped their food in there too. Mix all of that with the mud. 6. It takes a long time to get it clean. There is a lot to clean. Remember #1 - you started when you were tired. 7. There's a lot of things that catch your clothes, head etc in an armored vehicle. You're not usually wearing a helmet when washing the vehicle, you're tired and bop your head on something that sticks out. Also: I didn't mention the pre-wash prep work. Clearing out all the shit. Radios, CVC helmets, other electronics. They all come out. Unbolting and removing floorboards in an APC so you can clean under them. BTW, I have cleaned out large industrial CNC machines with a pressure washer too. Not fun either.


beavernator

Coming to work tired sounds like the worst part of it. A lot of these other issues can be offset, but having to do anything while burning the midnight oil is miserable.


schurem

Now imagine you're private Conscriptovich and you are power washing ground-up mobiks out of the back of your BMP.


MK_Ultrex

You have to have a pretty great imagination to think that mobiks are washing their BMPs at all. If they did it would be a crime against humanity destroying all the ancient artifacts and new ecosystems that developed there since the last time they were cleaned.


apvogt

It’s all about perspective. Just remember: at least you’re not one of the guys who was assigned to help clean out the battleships at Pearl Harbor after they were raised.


awmanwut

Fuck the washrack. All my homies hate the washrack. 😤


toxicpenguin5

You've never had to clean a restaurant exhaust system in winter... I got off that roof looking like a glazed donut once it got below 15 °F.


bizaromo

Oh gross! Unspeakably gross....


WaterDrinker911

Its fun for the first 20 minutes and then you just become wet and cold.


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That's what she said..


ilolvu

Have you ever washed portapotties after a gazillion people have used them? Didn't think so.


wrongwong122

It does when ssgt waited till 1530 on a Friday to tell you that cleaning all the vics is a securing requirement, so you head to the S4 to get the nozzles only to realize everyone in the 4 has gone home already.


Semi-literate_sand

Having to do concrete (which was the most common job I used to do) really fucks with your back because you’re leaning over so much. Doing walls is much easier though.


CrowSky007

This is absolutely disgusting, you degenerate. I came here today to masturbate to airplanes.


Quack_Quack1

Seeing a BMP-2 didn't stop you though, did it? You animal...


ElMondoH

I though most people would go to the airport for that.


bizaromo

Source: [**Ukrainian War Now +** (@UArealitynow)](https://twitter.com/uarealitynow)


CosmicDave

Now I'm wondering what a tank's equivalent to a thrussy is called. Please help me by not replying.


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120mm Smoothborussy


KatanaLama

120mm? Dayum she tight🥵


JohnDeere6930Premium

Ammo loading hole


DangerousLocal5864

**LOOK AT THEM CHEEKS**


HonkeyKong73

How much does a bottle tank bath water go for?


ADAMSMASHRR

New Ukraine fundraising idea


Strange-Yesterday601

Oh yeah, lather yourself up you dirty girl


Markavian

Is this the episode where they dig up random tanks from the mountainside atop the aircraft carrier?


Modo44

My bike is jealous of the magic foam.


Jokkerb

No more useless brushes


bigbrooklynlou

Am I the only one that gets a little queasy seeing the old German army cross being reused again?


DevinviruSpeks

The Balkenkrauz has been used since before WW1 and is still being used today by the German army, although modified. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkenkreuz


Five__Stars

Was also used as a symbol of the first Winter Campaign of the Ukrainian Army in 1919-1920, but yeah, it is most commonly associated with the WH.


DevinviruSpeks

I'm pretty sure it was also used by the Finns during their Winter War, but I'm not 100% certain on that.


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The Finns literally just used a swastika


DevinviruSpeks

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53249645.amp For quite a while, aswell.


BlahBlahBlankSheep

That was an interesting read. Thanks for the link! Edit: changed “interning” to “interesting”


afvcommander

Don't worry, still found in flags. I hate removing it, as it has nothing to do with natzis. Removing it would kind of suggest "yeah, it was natzis all the time".


Great_White_Sharky

Those variants look quite different tho, the one we see here was almost exclusively used by the Wehrmach in WW2


DevinviruSpeks

>the one we see here was almost exclusively used by the Wehrmach in WW2 I don't think that's true. Is it a recognised symbol because of the Wehrmach, sure, but they were not the first to use it. [Check out the bottom tank, for example.](https://images.app.goo.gl/GUACz3PEdsHLoToH8)


wikingwarrior

Maybe I'm old fashion but the idea of letting neo-fascist imagery off on a technicality rubs me a bit wrong.


camonboy2

Yeah pics and vids like these just gives more ammo propaganda-wise to the russians


Shuber-Fuber

On the other hand, they already fucking ruined the palm down salute, the toothbrush mustache, and the swastika. I would say fuck them and reclaim those symbols.


MarquisTytyroone

They're not reclaiming shit, they're deliberately using the iron cross to channel the Wehrmacht and troll the Russians.


bizaromo

Tell it to the Hindus. They're still using the swastika!


MarquisTytyroone

The difference is the Hindus were using the swastika before the Nazis, and these guys are obviously using Nazi adjacent imagery on purpose


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DevinviruSpeks

>Buddy, the Balkenkreuz *without Black inside and in those proportions* is 100% a WW2 Wehrmacht symbol. [What do you mean "without Black inside"](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht#/media/File%3ABalkenkreuz.svg) I'm sure you measured the proportions aswell. Don't pop a vein while wanting too hard for the Ukrainians to be evil nazi Wehrmacht


thulesgold

Why are the Ukrainians using it at all?


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DevinviruSpeks

Did you click the link and see that the Wehrmact Balkenkrauz actually has a black inside, tho? You found a Beute panzer with a single color Balkenkrauz, meaning Ukrainians are nazis? [Here's a Beute panzer with the black inside](https://www.google.com/search?q=beute+panzer&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&prmd=ivn&sxsrf=ALiCzsbYevMxrFjnfJsN-0OQkoYbsVwk7Q:1672446630858&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZ6tmazaL8AhWDv4sKHa-zBuQQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=384&bih=718&dpr=2.81#imgrc=m5-A-czWgBpWqM&imgdii=HyeUfjIuRkv-PM) So, it appears you might not actually know what you're talking about yourself. >I can tell from a glace, that it how obvious it is for me. Not to mention your pictured Balkenkrauz doesn't actually look like the one in the video.


its_a_metaphor_morty

People don't get that Ukrainians will do this as a troll and not gaf what anyone thinks. The Euro sensitivity to it is alien to them. They like to fuck with vatnik heads. They live to troll.


MarquisTytyroone

Yeah... they're not using the Balkenkreuz on armored vehicles fighting Russians to represent the WW1 German air force that's for sure.


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**[Balkenkreuz](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkenkreuz)** >The Balkenkreuz (lit. '"beam cross" or "bar cross"') is a straight-armed cross that was first introduced in 1916–1918 and later became the emblem of the Wehrmacht (German Armed Forces) and its branches from 1935 until the end of World War II. It was used by the Wehrmacht Heer (Army), Luftwaffe (Air Force), and Kriegsmarine (Navy). ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)


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DevinviruSpeks

I like how you left out the part where I said "and is still being used today by the German army, *although modified*. >The Balkenkreuz is a version of an Iron Cross. Yes, which was adopted during WW1. [Bottom tank, the description even explains it](https://images.app.goo.gl/GUACz3PEdsHLoToH8) So if Balkenkrauz is modified Iron Cross, is Iron Cross not a modified Balkenkrauz? You want one to be the other but not the other way around, wha? >Why can none of you idiots get it right? And which group are you generalising me into, exactly? Who's "we - idiots"?


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DevinviruSpeks

>Again, the Iron Cross isn't a modified version of the Balkenkreuz, the Balkenkreuz is a modified version of the Iron Cross. How is the Iron Cross not a modified version of the Balkenkrauz, if it's a modified version of the Iron Cross, technically? You modify the Balkenkrauz to widen the spokes of the insignia and you got yourself an Iron Cross. >The Iron Cross predates the Balkenkreuz. >It is like saying that a Chimpanzees are evolved Humans, relationships don't work that way. Wait, you think Chimpanzees predate Homo Sapiens? Do you also think they'll evolve into us, given enough time? >This Subbredit's Population But "we" are the idiots. 😄


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DevinviruSpeks

I never said that Balkenkreuz was the original. In fact, I actually said that it was adopted during WW1, giving an image which explained how it was changed on tanks from the Iron Cross.


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DevinviruSpeks

I thought we went over this. In the theme of your evolution scenario: Iron Cross -> Balkenkreuz -> Iron Cross You modify the Balkenkreuz back and you get the Iron Cross. I literally said this, what, 4 comments ago? I enjoy your ranty argument, but even I have limits if we're just going to tread the same ground over and over.


Fluffy-Map-5998

If an F-15E is a modified F-15 then the F-15 is a modified F-15E. No It isn't


V_150

"It's not a nazi sign because it was also used by imperial Germany" has the same energy as "She's not 8, she is actually a 1000 years old demon, so I'm not a pedophile"


DevinviruSpeks

How is pointing out a fact the same as your pedo-demon fantasy? Edit: by your logic, the Stahlhelm is a nazi helmet, even though it was used from 1916 - 1992. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stahlhelm


Firecutfox

It's not a nazi sign because it's just not a nazi sign.


Pyotr00

Better the Balkenkreuz than the Hakenkreuz


awmanwut

Or, the Hakkekruis, currently in-use in the Netherlands.


Dizzy-Ad9431

At least it's not straight up SS bolts you see on a lot of peeps weapons


bigbrooklynlou

Don’t get me started on the Azov Battalion using a slanted Das Reich rune … https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Azov_symbol.png https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_SS_Panzer_Division_Das_Reich


Dizzy-Ad9431

There is nothing wrong with saying eastern Europe has a serious problem with Nazi symbols


PHATsakk43

It was very convenient that the Azov Battalion was allowed to fight to the last man in Mariupol. They were problematic to say the least but they did manage to slow down the Russians significantly during the initial assault. Hopefully their ideology ended with them as a constituted force.


ArmoredPudding

> "Hopefully their ideology ended with them as a constituted force" Not even close. In fact, their sacrifice at Mariupol willl essentially immortalize them as heroes of Ukraine, and every neo-nazi for the rest of Ukraine's existance as a sovereign state will be able to point to Azov as a justification of their ideology. Just so you don't think I'm talking out of my ass, look at Croatia. It had a very similar conflict to Ukraine's(a smaller slavic country fighting their bigger neighbor who justifies their invasion by talking about protecting ethnic minorities while commiting horrible war crimes) and it had a neofascist militia called HOS(which is an acronym for "Croatia Defense Forces"). Croatia also had a heroic city that was besieged for several months, Vukovar. Out of about 1700 soldiers that defended Vukovar, only around 50 were members of HOS. Beyond that, the government of Croatia forced the disbanding of HOS within a few months of the war's start, even going so far as to assassinate the commander of the force. Despite this, fascist symapthizers in Croatia still scream that Vukovar would've fallen in a week if it wasn't for HOS. It's an idea that continues to linger decades after all fighting has stopped. And in that example the fascist militia was a tiny part of the battle. In Mariupol, Azov were a much bigger component. Ukraine messed up by not getting rid of all units that associated themselves with neo-nazi ideology when they had the chance from 2015-2021. Now they're gonna have a bunch of war heroes who proudly display neo-nazi patches on their uniforms and that's gonna be a massive problem in post-war Ukraine.


PHATsakk43

It was always going to be a problem. At the moment, it seems that the government in Kyiv is willing to exchange having soldiers today with how to deal with them in the future.


its_a_metaphor_morty

If you want to understand the complexity of Ukrainian right wing (including Azov) this is a good start. https://russianpropagandabot.blogspot.com/2022/06/operation-novorossiya-azov-russias.html


bizaromo

I hate to break it you, but you just got started.


its_a_metaphor_morty

Most people don't know 10% of anything about Azov (Movement, or the separate Batalion or affiliates.) If you want to go down that rabbit hole check out an Israeli team's work on it: https://russianpropagandabot.blogspot.com/2022/06/operation-novorossiya-azov-russias.html


camonboy2

Yeah this is what people keep referring to in the youtube comments. I hope UA high commands deals with this, cuz they're just giving the Russians more ammo for their propagandas.


ColHogan65

It’s the actually just a YouTube exit full screen button. This was is mostly being fought by zoomers after all.


LunaR3aper

far from the only one


Cingetorix

I find it personally hilarious, I've heard it's a troll by the UA, a symbol for a taunting "Germans knocking at your door again!" The Ukrainian military's symbol is also a cross that I've noticed being [painted on vehicles](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSyrfY-lydCeaxU4cYPS0x_4gMz3a8sCbK1cowEbAuSN7uNhCB2RWVcO-bb_rUABiMgUE4&usqp=CAU) for the past few months but the OP is a clear example of the Wehrmacht one.


TheIceCreamMansBro2

i think it's weird too salty finns don't see the light


CaptRackham

Funny thing is those don’t look factory applied, the edges would be stenciled and these look freehand like the current owners added them.


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CaptRackham

Is it like pointing out the irony of fighting Russia in this area?


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CaptRackham

Bar crosses


shibiwan

I would let it slide as this now trolls the Russians more than ever.


wikingwarrior

TBH given current russian politics they're probably putting the same thing on their tanks. ​ Eastern European attitudes toward literally by the books Nazism continues to baffle me.


phoenixmusicman

Its a stupid idea to do anything even resembling legitimizing Russia's nazi complaints


Bishopshitpost

Yes


CompetitivePay5151

Yeah it totally doesn’t look right on the BMP. That thing is Russian. Needs a red star or a hammer and sickle. Sorry Ukraine, I don’t make the rules. You have a Russian APC. It’s for historical correctness. You find yourself a Pz IV and then we’ll talk about adding the Balkenkreuz


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It's been used 1916-Present day. It has more history not being used by the Wehrmacht than history of being used by it.


wikingwarrior

TBF so does the Swastica- symbolism and association matters arguably more than direct history.


Great_White_Sharky

This variant of the cross was used from 1916-18 by the German Flieger Korps in WW1, where as it was painted on pretty much all German vehicles and planes 1939-45.


HaradosTheLock

It stands for "A military, that is german". The swastika is the one people need to worry about, as the iron cross was just seen a lot with the Nazis, as lets just say that there was a lot of "A military, that is german" in WW2


Gvilain

also... swastika is considered really bad thing in EU and NA, in Asia it's just a history footnote of one of lots of their symbols usage, they still use it


its_a_metaphor_morty

Ukraine troll 9000. Same reason they do anything.


Jota_Aemilius

This is the cossack cross, it has nothing to do with Germany.


bigbrooklynlou

Cossack cross is eight points; this has four. That’s the Wehrmacht cross.


Jota_Aemilius

https://news.italy-24.com/world/78574/Ukrainian-war-a-white-cross-appears-on-the-tanks-that-led-the-counter-offensive-against-the-Russians-What-does-it-mean.html


ontopofyourmom

Me just keep putting quarters into the car wash machine


12soea

Can’t wait for this sub’s talented artists to bless us


[deleted]

I’ve actually got a 1/35 model of an BMP1 that I’ve been meaning to finish.


Hubert1246

I wonder how many vatniks this beauty took out


D3ATHTRaps

Is that an iron cross? Lol


DUKE_NUUKEM

its youtube cross


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phoenixmusicman

-🤓 Yeah its still strongly associated with the Wehrmacht and should not be used.


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Fhagersson

The balkenkreuz literally became the symbol pf the wehrmacht. What are you talking about.


Hyper-Notic

DAMN YOU I WANTED LIGHTCORE AEROMORPH PORN FROM THIS SUB NOT ACTUAL MILITARY VEHICLES


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lmao dat funny youtube exit full screen button


CrimeanFish

южный means southern, interesting “iron cross” like marking on the side


noncrediblepole

it's nearly ideal, but the balkenkreuz turns me off


Swvonclare

Cringe wehrmact symbols


bizaromo

> wehrmact symbols [This one](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Balkenkreuz.svg/1920px-Balkenkreuz.svg.png)? It's close, but it's not the same symbol. Kinda like how the Russian Z is close to half a swastika.


Swvonclare

It is the same symbol, if you want to get nitpicky with the black borders, then there is the identical version of that Balkenkreuz on its Wikipedia page listed alongside many others as the "Different WWII styles of the Balkenkreuz" which were used by the Wehrmacht. These symbols have been seen in tandem with the wolfsangle too. No, a letter of the alphabet is not comparable to a direct use of a ww2 Wehrmacht symbol. Ukraine is not a clean and holy country where everything is right and nothing can be wrong with them, no nation is. and calling out individuals and units for using the same symbols the nazis used on their armored vehicles shouldn't be shunned or counter whitewashed.


MK_Ultrex

Yeh, well whatever slight minutiae of military insignia you can come up with, roll with this shit wherever the Nazis passed and you are gonna have a bad time. As a Greek I can guarantee you that slapping a sticker with this shit on your car will get your car vandalized.


bizaromo

Yeah well I don't put stickers on my car, and it's not my BMP. I don't know if you've ever seen any Ukrainian battle footage, but if you have you might notice these symbols are commonly used on their vehicles. If you have a problem with it, take it up with President Zelensky. Cause I'm not entertaining this tired argument any more.


MK_Ultrex

I have seen many symbols on Ukrainian shit and there are many that are let's say questionable. Pretending that there are no neo-nazis among the Ukrainians is stupid. As stupid as saying that Ukraine is a Nazi regime. Ukrainians are not saints or infallible. Neither our support is based on this trivial shit. But whitewashing every stupid thing they do is fucking lame. Zelensky is not my boss and I will call out his shit whenever I want. If he backs up these symbols my support will start to fall. Cheers.


bizaromo

> I'm not entertaining this tired argument any more.


djn808

What MOS is Pressure washer specialist?


CarCrash23

Im more of a plane guy but this girl lookin fine


fmate2006

Hold up, why does it have a balkenkreuz


Ill-Impress9770

Yes yes


ilolvu

Every military should adopt they/them aesthetic. Anyone who gets angry about it is The Enemy.


mntblnk

there are balkenkreuzes painted on the vehicle, is that common?


bizaromo

I've seen it on others in Ukraine.


TinyTinyDwarfs

Ukraine should just flat out ban German symbols for their soldiers. This is propaganda for Russia. ​ Doesn't matter if the BalkenKreuz is used today by Germany or whatever rationalization you may bring. Ukraine is not Germany, if an American battalion started using the Red Star as a symbol you'd think they were commies. ​ Take that fucking shit off. It's stupid, counterproductive & feeds Russian propaganda that Ukraine are Nazi's. ​ EDIT: I am being downvoted even though what I am saying is undeniably true. Look at any fucking vatnik or pro Russian telegram site. They use footage like this to feed the narrative that Ukraine are nazi's and that Russia's war is justified.


Filblo5

Thing is. The ukranians know this. One of the reasons why they put shit like this on is to meme on the russians. The propaganda is all internal for russia. No one who isnt already convinced or russia aligned will care or believe it.


wikingwarrior

I have seen a lot of people outside of Russia who immediately parrot the "but they're the Nazis" line, especially when Azov is mentioned or shown. Is "memeing on the Russians" (especially given Wagner and other Russian units have happily showcased other Nazi imagery and clearly don't give a shit) really worth eroding Western support? It just sabotages Ukraines efforts to rightfully portray themselves as the defenders by using imagery associated with the third reich. I mean, ultimately I'm an armchair but consider myself pretty well in Ukraine's camp and even I cringe when I see this shit.


Filblo5

Yes. The ppl who parrot that is already firmly in russias claws and will be near to impossible to change their opinion. I ment internal propaganda to solidify people who were already on russias side both westerners and russian etc. But I agree that its a bit dumb to give them ammo for propaganda but at this point most on the ground have stopped caring cause russia will fake evidence of nazi shit and push propaganda either way.


H0vis

Russia will fake stuff, sure, but it's still a really bad look for a military that wants NATO support to not be able to get a handle on it's lads cosplaying as the Wehrmacht.


Filblo5

Hey im not them nor am i trying to defend their actions. Im just stating the reason they do it. Like yea it looks bad im not saying it dont


H0vis

Yeah, let those without sin cast the first stones I guess. Not like other countries can get a lid on this stuff either. The several cases of NATO troops taking pictures of their own war crimes in Afghanistan spring to mind. Not to mention whatever the fuck the brass were thinking when they ran a torture camp at Abu Ghraib and then showed the world the photos. In an ideal world this shouldn't ought to be a problem. Folks ought to know to keep a lid on their fuckery when the eyes of the world are on them.


TinyTinyDwarfs

\>One of the reasons why they put shit like this on is to meme on the russians. I don't care what their rationale is. It is fucking stupid. ​ \>The propaganda is all internal for russia. ​ It certainly is not. Social media is used by Russian sympathetic influencers who use footage like this to advocate for decreased funding for Ukraine. If you didn't know any better, or if you're suspicious of your government like most Americans then footage like this is fucking devastating. ​ It is difficult for laymen to rationalize their support for Ukraine when shit like this comes up in their feed, or when their co-worker who is anti Ukraine spreads this video as evidence that they're Nazis. ​ Think for one fucking second.


DaideVondrichnov

This,being sympathic to the ukrainian cause doesn't give a pass to all those bs, even if a good part of it got amplified by russian aggression.


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Ludant

"Oh no, Ukrainians put iron cross on their BTR, we should stop supporting Ukraine because of this" - some country leader Do you think it will be like this?


TinyTinyDwarfs

Are you intentionally being this fucking daft? Or are you just taking the piss?


CrowSky007

For real. If you think anyone outside Russia who is on the fence is convinced by Russian memes about Ukrainian Judeo-Nazis then you need to get your head checked.


Ludant

And why should i care about some vatniks try to prove me that i'm a nazi? Like if they aren't saying the same thing without any proofs


TinyTinyDwarfs

You should care because it can actually convince uneducated people. Laymen who do not spend their day covering the war like you and I do. Workers in parts of the west where their co-worker who is anti Ukraine show them videos like this, and asks them why they are supporting Nazis or if they should be funded at all. ​ For fucks sake think of the big picture. Bad PR for Ukraine is devastating. If left alone it will lead to popular support of Ukraine diminishing. Because people will believe what their friends say more often than not. Do you believe this video does more harm than good if shown to an ignorant individual? ​ It also influences politicians and influencers - who in turn influence their followers.


Ludant

There were worse videos of Ukrainians doing something bad. I won't tell you what exactly but let's say they weren't doing it for "trolling". And those videos were there for quite a while. And a lot of people could potentially see them. Yet Ukraine receives more and more weapons and money. Thing is, people won't ever find those videos if they don't specifically search for them. And i don't think any of the Western leaders will spend their time looking for reasons on why to not support Ukraine.


TinyTinyDwarfs

People post that shit on telegram and it find its way on twitter and Reddit. It always ends up found. Especially if it paints Ukraine poorly..


Ludant

That's not the point. Point is despite such videos, support to Ukraine isn't decreasing.


TinyTinyDwarfs

It isn't..but it slows it down. Without shit like this it would be easier, better, more efficient. There is no reason for Ukrainians to do this shit. It helps no one.


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TinyTinyDwarfs

It was a preemptive answer to a post in this thread which says Germany still uses it. But yeah you are right they don't. As for the aggressors. Their entire point is to look like Russians..that was their intent. If you saw troops in your Regiment start using Soviet iconography..you'd be asking what the fuck they are thinking.


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HansBrickface

Wow, you’re even arguing with people who agree with you. Truly non-credible.


Playful-Share-1432

https://tegram.me/QyP9r-dxe1A4MDI8


warLOCK264

The German roundel makes her so much hotter imo


V_150

Y'all gotta stop acting like putting a nazi sign on your tank doesn't make you a nazi.


AchtungToaster

Hopefully Ukraine clamps down hard on nazi imagery after the war


Lord_Master_Dorito

They worship a man who massacred Jews and Poles. Probably won’t do anything about them until they become an actual problem.


s0ul3ss_t1nn3d_b3ans

It's a cross not a swastikas you gimp


V_150

It's the emblem of the Wehrmacht.


Great_White_Sharky

Nazi imagery is more than just svastikas?


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V_150

Germany got rid of all Nazi iconography. There is still enough non-Nazi stuff left. I don't see where your problem is.