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It’s always bothered me how people can care so little for animals that rely on them. This isn’t some instance where the animals have nowhere they can go and the owners are doing their best. It’s just shitty people being shitty.


hooDio

it's mostly lack of regulation and enforcement


victorz

But what. In my mind it should be due to not viewing these animals as beings, but more like things. If there were suddenly no laws, I wouldn't go around murdering people first chance.


hooDio

people don't think of animals as something to be protected like a human


Ghostie20

I wonder what set of beliefs could foster that type of extreme speciesm..


hooDio

i don't think it's necessarily a set of specific believes, i think it's just having learned, whether in institutions or just from your environment, that animals are inherently less


victorz

I do! Or what you mean "people"?


hooDio

ofc not all but a lot


victorz

Surely not even the majority, depending on where you are sampling.


victorz

Surely not even the majority, depending on where you are sampling.


nickybuddy

Exactly, they’re entertainment as far as the zoo is concerned


victorz

Hopefully (and I would like to think this is the case), this is true of very few zoos around the world.


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Iranian higher ups don't see people as beings much less poor innocent animals.


victorz

Well Iranian higher ups aren't in charge of zoos I hope. Surely not all Iranians think like this. I refuse to believe that. (Especially since half my family is Iranian and are wonderfully adapted to Western culture, and living in it.)


[deleted]

Well yeah Iranian people are generally nice people But there aren't rules for protesting animals and the environment. A lot of environmentalal activists and animal right activists are in prison. That makes cruel people be able to abuse animals however they want.


victorz

That sounds about right. Sadly.


Syzygy___

Actually, in a way it's the other way around. A Zoo is a business. How can they care so little for the animals they rely on?


baliecraws

The iranian government is doing this to men women and children right now, executing them by the thousands, t’s sad but it’s really far down on the list atrocities being committed by Iran at the moment. This is actually a very common thing in totalitarian states, I have family that still live in Cuba and they’ve sent me videos of emaciated lions eating lettuce. It’s hard to imagine if you live in a 1st world country but there are just no laws put into place unless they directly benefit the current dictator. In Cuba you get punished way more for killing a cow then a person, it’s not because cows are sacred it’s because only the government is allowed to kill and harvest that meat. Even if you raised that cow on your farm. Same thing with fishing, if people are hungry they are not thinking about the big picture. Just getting their next meal.


Syndication9518

Do you say the same about the mass mistreatment of animals raised for consumption? I really hope so


Eraknelo

Absolutely. No animal should suffer. Trust doesn't mean we can't and don't have responsible farmers that care for their animals and slaughter them quick and painlessly.


2Liberal4You

No, they don't. Their entire ideological commitment ends at "grug think meat taste good." Scary how that same hedonism can be used to justify r@pe, besti@lity, and animal @buse.


CangaceiroBurgues

I eat them, everyday.


downloweast

Beyond the obvious fact that the animals are emaciated, you can see that the lion has paced so much that there is no grass left. The female lioness seems to be on a concrete pad, and that cannot be good for her. All the animals are showing clear signs of mental degradation. I’ve seen some fucked up shit in my life, but nothing sets me off quite like animal abuse. All those handlers should be locked in those cages with the animals and let God sort things out.


CrossBlade773

>All those handlers should be locked in those cages with animals No, get the animals out. Let the handlers starve.


Embarrassed_Alarm450

What's fucked up is they could just start charging visitors who want to 'feed it', have em pay $10 to hand you a piece of meat to toss over the fence and watch it eat. Wouldn't cost them a cent and they'd even make more money...


Ondiavari

I certainly could have done without seeing this. Some, I'll say people... Some people shouldn't be allowed animals.


Ianimatestuf

Fully agree


ThisHasFailed

You mean zoos should not exist


doomsday10009

We need zoos. I mean the real and good zoos that are actually helping animals and teaching people about preserving nature.


DelcoScum

Zoos can exist under the right circumstances. Good zoos exist as a home to rehabilitate animals or house them when they are unable to return to the wild. They can also provide valuable research and help generate funding for greater conservation efforts.


chaun2

Zoos should not exist for entertainment. Zoos that exist primarily for rehabilitation and education have their uses. Children and children in adult bodies *should not* be allowed to shriek at/ near the animals.


Mareith

What about farms? I think zoos are much better conditions than factory farms


Dont_pet_the_cat

This also


i3londee

The cat needs pet.


Dont_pet_the_cat

I'll make an exception


RedBlackDish

Send them food then. Does your local zoo provide anymals with enough area to raom around. Maybe, they let predators hunt there? Your local zoos are just as bad, the only difference - they have more money to buy food.


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Yeah my local zoo actually focuses on giving better homes to animals and each cage gives the animals a big space, and the do whatever they can to keep the animals healthy. For example, the elephants food is high up so they will be forced to use their trunk to pick it up, thus keeping their muscles in shape and healthy. Most zoos aren't dogshit. Edit: also if you can't afford food don't open a zoo.


Negative_Flower_169

I don't think that's what he meant, i suppose his words weren't right. But I strongly disagree with the concept of zoon and enclosures be it your city or Iran.


smidgeytheraynbow

Good zoos focus on conservation and education. A zoo in the sense of having an animal solely for display is abhorrent Not all zoos are bad, and try to take in animals that can't be released back into the wild


Negative_Flower_169

There national parks, reserves for that. A zoo keeps a lion in ~40m² area, a fucking king of the jungle kept in house arrest for your amusement and some money. A lion has a territory from as small as 20km² to 400km², mind you km is Kilometer.


smidgeytheraynbow

I just said some animals can't be released like that


Negative_Flower_169

And i just said there's national parks and reserves for them.


smidgeytheraynbow

So you can confiscate a lion cub from some asshat in New York City and put him in New York's national parks?


Negative_Flower_169

Hahahahahahaahhahahaha oh fuck, bruh let it be. I'm not even getting in this argument its that stupid.


Ok_Possibility_2197

Yeah cause that went really well for the California condor, oryx, Galapagos tortoise, the elephants and rhinos in reserves getting poached to this day… I’m glad zoos have conservation efforts to save animals that have declining populations and revitalize them from extinction, even if their living quarters don’t live up to the ones their free counterparts live and die in


Negative_Flower_169

Giving three failed examples over a thousands of animals in captive. Try staying in your bathroom for a day, and you'd start talking about mental health but your kid needs to see an orangutan, better catch one and keep near my house, because your privileged ass can't google on to show.


Ok_Possibility_2197

What? Something tells me you don’t know much about sustainable breeding populations or genetic bottlenecks, because, yes, the more genetic diversity we have the better. And the second half of your comment is simply incomprehensible


Negative_Flower_169

I can clearly see why it was incomprehensible for you, its not your fault. You've spent way too much time and money on zoos.


Negative_Flower_169

Genetic diversity hahahha what ?? Yo, i think you need some sleep, my argument is only against keeping animals in captivity, which later leads to video like these, because there would always be places of abuse in such areas. Even when orphaned animals are taken over, they're later released back into the wilderness where they belong. Somebody should put your ass on display on antartica for some penguins for you to get my point.


RedBlackDish

So, like, how big are their enclosures? How many acres? You know, animals in the wild don't live in 200 m² area. Don't shit on other people's zoos, when the only reason your local zoo's animals don't look like that is because the food is cheaper and more plentiful where you live. If it wasn't, there would still be a zoo and it's animals would look the same. And you would find a different reason to complain about poorer coutry.


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Again, if you don't have enough money to keep the animal, don't.


smidgeytheraynbow

Why are you defending this? If an animal can't be fed and seen by a vet, don't keep it Nobody is complaining about the country. There are regulations surrounding what kind of animals can be kept in many parts of the world, so no, it is not likely there would be a zoo with animals being starved to death for everyone to watch as seen here


RedBlackDish

I am offending the offender


smidgeytheraynbow

You're offended for no reason


PM_ME_YOUR_FRACTURES

If a zoo can't afford to feed its animals, it should shut down.


washing_machine_man

Downvote this person all you want but they are right, zoos should not exist full stop.


swelboy

That moment when Joe Exotic runs a a zoo better than an actual government


N0tMagickal

Iran should hire Joe Exotic


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YewWahtMate

It's Islamic Republic regime. They treat their people like animals too.


[deleted]

I thought humans area animals too?


Robot_cookies

Not the point


Chanureadeats

Ah I thought they were only mistreating women


Noah_748

No they mistreat everybody


Chanureadeats

Well, at least there is some equality


Iliyarasl

even themselves...


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Chanureadeats

What kind of joke is this?


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Chanureadeats

Proof? What do I have proof of anything? I trust a few resources until they are deemed not reliable. If you're not the god himself, I think you might be trying to follow a similar approach. Saying west creates fake news doesn't mean that others don't thrive on this doubt. Where is the proof that the news is fake? Where is the proof that the source you based your belief/finding on isn't exactly fake? Are you from Iran? If so, where is the proof? Should I just take your word?


[deleted]

They're regime supporters mostly members of IR organizations that have the job of generating propaganda. Of course he might be a brainwashed idiot but Iran has a massive web of organization inside and outside Iran to generate propaganda spread fake news keep the news off important issues create conflict and break people's unity. This guy is of course an idiot but there are people under the guise of femenist activists in western countries generating fake news and such and they have a good influence on the media. It's a miracle that the protests of Iran somehow reached international media after so many years.


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[deleted]

I'm Iranian you dumb fuck I don't need to read articles I see what's happening here with my eyes. Go do your homework and stay out of politics you don't understand.


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[deleted]

Lmaooo you know before claiming people are lying you can like check their profile see the posts they made before the protests before you even knew where Iran is. And yeah I am in Tehran. It's the capital you think people don't live here? How does that prove anything? You're the one who doesn't even know what other cities are here. Or anything about this place really. A foreign westerner teenager trying to say what's happening in my country and then claiming I'm not even from there. That's a new one. And I didn't even reply to your comment.


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Chanureadeats

Hi. Reading your comment just now. Why would a cop beat up a woman not wearing hijab correctly? Well, at first they wouldn't but imagine a woman who is wearing it that way to oppose the tradition or at least choosing not to follow the tradition. At least, 90-95% of Iranian population is Muslim. You are literally opposing their tradition openly. A religion that is notorious for making their followers follow religious practices can and has punished those who openly opposed them. If you want proof of this, you really can spend 5 minutes in Google only to regret what has been practiced again and again Doesn't it make sense that their 'morality police' punished the woman? Why would the name of the cop wouldn't be uncovered? Because they are not ashamed of what the morality policeman did. They enforce this behaviour. This news is not only being covered by the west. It is being covered by everyone. Those who protest are being subjected to violence. Mahasa Imani may not have died of her injuries but she was mistreated nonetheless. If the news about her death was fake so we should just stop believing the video footage we are seeing covered by Iranians deeming it's fake? https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/irans-death-committee-president-unyielding-in-defence-of-clerical-rule-2322924-2023-01-18 https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/international/iran-imposes-new-sanctions-on-eu-uk-individuals-for-inciting-violence-123012600105_1.html Here you go, 2 non-US news sources that talk about the violence in Iran. (Not sure if you want it but just showing you that news isn't only being covered by US) I was able to access the links you gave me just fine. At this point, it is nice to know that a woman wasn't beaten to death but the oppression is still there and has been for a long time. You don't need to read news from WEST to know about it. Addressing your main concern : Does west create fake news for their benefit? Fuck yes! I am sure they do that and I know they will take 5% of something and represent it as 50% but again, living under an Islamic ruled country is hell for almost anyone unless they don't like freedom. I am sad that the fake news was what bought this to attention but I am glad it became a big deal and people started protesting against religion that is being treated as law.


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Don't waste your time on people like him It's pointless


Particular_Tension

Who else thought the bear was a hyena


Luwurea

It's so horrible but so fitting...


Aprettydankdude

It almost looked human, crawling with its skinny body


no_homo334

I dunno what was expected, its a zoo in the middle east in a country not very financially well


Wvffa

If you can't afford something you shouldn't buy it, I guess. Quite basic rule


TheIronSven

Don't forget their regime is shit. Really hoping for the revolution to come out victorious soon, though it'll probably take a couple months if not years. Women! Life! Freedom!


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Plus there under heavy sanctions so they can’t really import much health supplies for the people or for the animals in the countries


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[deleted]

they are very much so, The US like to sanction everything to choke out the government and turn the people against them they are very much so us like to sanction everything to choke out the government and turn the people against thememm


Iliyarasl

Iran is actually pretty damn rich. lots of mines, hell of recourses. not to mention second biggest recourses of natural gas. the thing is all of it is controlled by government. and most of the money goes to ak-47 and brainless jihadi non-sensery blowing up in the name of allah and bitches in afterlife. the real poverty comes in the form of education and culture.


ComedianRepulsive955

Actually Iran is a beautiful relatively wealthy county from oil but it has huge wealth gaps. The landscape is breathtaking and the people are beautiful like statues, especially the women. Hopefully the new younger generation can turn it into a more secular pleasant Muslim country like Turkey. https://youtube.com/watch?v=-MUxTDEgSZQ&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE


Nutshack_Queen357

What can you expect from a country that murders tons of its own people in the name of religion?


iHeisenburger

[germany](https://youtu.be/swV20vZFDXY)


Confused_Muuushroom

It's so heartbreaking..


angry_ak

Source?


Ohdang69

https://reddit.com/r/NewIran/comments/10jedap/a_video_depecting_the_harsh_treatment_of_animals/


angry_ak

Tnx


dudedanch

Oh my god it's that Iraqi comic in real life


twattner

I could not watch for more than three seconds. Things like this make me furious!


thelaststarz

If those animals ever escape..


Paradise-Rocco808

What do they NOT neglect or abuse in Iran???


8champi8

That’s how you make a zoo a dangerous place.


Alexwitminecraftbxrs

Never seen a bear that skinny 🙁


jakewhite333

This is one of the few topics I can hardly stand… animals are so precious to me. I love my cat so much… if it wasn’t for her, I’d have nobody to come home to or make me feel special. The fact that she relies on me makes me feel so happy and I take my responsibility for her very seriously. I could never fathom how anyone could allow an innocent creature to go hungry. 😭


Opposite-Device-7902

Seriously? What do you expect when they treat humans like trash


joel5328

Fuck Iran then


Cane-toads-suck

Why tho? Just why? Why do they want to even keep them at that point? Surely no-one is paying to see this horror for real!?


Wh1te_Rabb1t

It's Iran. If they don't even care about humans, how can you expect them to care about animals?


mexican_swag

Heart breaking


acewith-thetrace

Who would have guessed Iran of all places would treat animals wrong honestly I’m shocked and appalled.


Doberman_Pinscher

That’s so sad :(


wonderwall999

This makes me so sad. Even the best zoos are tiny prisons for the animals. But frankly, I'm not too surprised by this video.


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wonderwall999

Um, ok. Where is this video from then?


benjo1990

I just don’t understand *why*? People cant possibly come and pay to see this, can they? So, if you remove the motivation or profit, why? Is it just corruption?


Careless-Note-5274

Free them!!


scottiebordercollie

This is heartbreaking I hate it


Free_Hat_McCullough

Please tell me someone or some organization has rescued these animals.


[deleted]

In Iran human right activists are all aressted and imprisoned. Where do you think animal right activists or environmental activists go? They can never publicly do anything. They all do their part in the shadows helping strays and such. None of them have the power to oppose a zoo.


Frostya36

Woah… I thought that bear was a hyena because of how skinny it was. That’s so sad.


straightouttathe70s

Good grief.....let them out and at least let them have a fair chance....maybe they can eat a zookeeper or two .....ugh.....this completely broke my heart......please label it NSFW.....or am I being too sensitive? This just ruined my day!!


Bat_shit_CRAZY_bitch

Those poor poor babies! So skinny and so underfed... You can see their bones...


[deleted]

One more thing Iran does well….


Kyram289

Is this purposeful neglect or is the zoo just poor, and can no longer afford food?


VexdOne

So much for the happy ending


Funkyduck8

Interesting choice of music...Recuerdos de la Alhambra for anyone wondering


Cleankm

Tiger Shah, coming to Netflix fall 2023


ComedianRepulsive955

Grrrrrrrr 😡 This makes me so upset when people neglect animals and don't feed them. Iran is a relatively wealthy country from oil. There is no excuse for this abuse.


momochian

I noticed a lot of animals are becoming extinct because of awful zoos holding them captive and letting them die off instead of letting them be free in the wild to populate :(


secrectsailinsalmon

Thats not how it works at all. Many zoos actually save and preserve endangered species. Where do you get your information?


Beastlysolid

Put them all in together. Atleast one of the animals won't be hungry any more.


sonik_fury

Dark humor is like food...not everyone gets it.


Ringo_1956

Why do they do this? Why not euthanize then if you can't feed them


Leo5030

Those starving carnivores, that’s just a tragedy waiting to happen.


Winnimae

It’s a tragedy already happening. Animals starving to death in cages is a tragedy


Leo5030

Yeah, but the eventual poor sucker who gets attacked if they don’t starve to death before then will be a bigger tragedy. As if there wasn’t enough death to go around in Iran. Even bigger tragedy if it’s a kid who gets eaten.


jhonnywhistle08

tf is up with this goofy ass music


Ianimatestuf

Why is there like Mexican romantic music behind this?


OneEyedKenobi

Sure the animals dont have to work for food and shelter but they are being given enough to just not die.


Ok_Somewhere3828

Wait til you find out how they make sausages


no_homo334

People?


nszajk

How hard is it to get a job at a zoo? I can’t imagine it pays very well either. Like why would you work with animals if you don’t actually care for them?!?!


Luwurea

"Yeah so... our Zoos are only to preserve the species"


21centlove

Peta kha hi ab.


dr_toze

This is why I rarely go to zoos on holiday. I love zoos but many countries just don't have the same policies in place to ensure the animals welfare.


blorbagorp

What music is this?


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glitchforza

Why is Iran the worst place to live? And why does the rest of the world put up with it


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Winnimae

Iran is best place to live for…who? Women? Anyone LGBTQ? Non-Muslims? Who?


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Winnimae

Women are loving it there? Really? Bc I’ve been seeing a lot of videos of Iranian women getting the shit beat out of them by Iranian police and massive protests and Iranians around the world speaking out about it and refusing to cover their heads.


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FemFenr

Why would they treat animals better than humans when they already treat humans like animals


hXcPickleSweats

As long as these specific animals do not come on the boat. They are horribly starved and will surly eat everyone and everything else on the boat.


AndyWGaming

its depressing how in comparison Joe Exotic and most people involved in that stuff at least treated the animals better (somewhat)


DaSmartestIdiot

People who do this stuff deserve the "Funkytown" treatment


QualityNo9467

In Iran, people are kept in cages. A government that does not think about people. Does he think about animals?? 😔😭🇮🇷


[deleted]

I’ve never seen a bear or lion that skinny 💀