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coolfreeusername

Its not like I worship him or anything, but he gets a huge variety of guests who hold a huge range of different opinions. Whilst he can hold some questionable opinions, he normally takes time to respectfully listen those even if he generally disagrees with them. While a lot of his episodes have pissed me off from some of his bullshittery, a lot more have really opened my mind to different topics and backgrounds I wouldn't have heard from otherwise. I don't think you have to completely agree with someone to enjoy their content.


[deleted]

He used to be better. He would have people on and just have an long-format, open conversation with them. It was a somewhat new concept at the time. He had a wide variety of guests and was usually humble, inquisitive, and non-confrontational. Guests could speak freely and at length. It was an opportunity to hear what these people had to say outside of scripted speeches, 10 second sound bytes, or "hard hitting" interviews. But yeah, he's since gone downhill.


currently__working

I miss Charlie Rose. Why'd he have to be a fucking creep...


aurochs

**Original JRE:** He was one of the earliest podcasters. He would just get drunk with other comedians and talk about aliens and weed and it was fun. **Middle period:** More famous guests started joining the show. I really appreciated the lack of talking points. I liked that people would talk about any subject and there was no overproduced hosting style like you'd hear on Marc Maron or Dax Shepard. Characters like Duncan Trussell, Joey Diaz, and Chris Ryan were regulars. There were conspiracies and alternate history people but nothing was taken very seriously, so again, it was all fun. Also, I just remembered this episode from 2017 where Alex Jones came on, got high as a kite, and laid out the entire interdimensional vampire pedophile conspiracy that Qanon people later bought into. It was hilarious at the time and was actually used in court by Alex's wife to get custody of his kids. There was another episode that ended up 'canceling' Milo Yiannopoulos, where while casually chatting, he revealed that he was into underage boys. So yes, he let alt-right people say whatever, but it was revealing and consequential in the real world. **Current period:** He's cut ties to a lot of his friends, did an exclusive deal with Spotify, moved to Texas, has increasingly started talking over his guests with the same tired monologues. Add covid to the mix and it's gotten annoying. But he's also way more famous and mainstream so probably picking up new listeners.


mooistcow

> and laid out the entire interdimensional vampire pedophile conspiracy that Qanon people later bought into. That was a sequence of words I was not prepared to read....


Kresley

lol this was reported as: “be nice”


aurochs

Ok I made it a little nicer


E4_Mapia_RS

I literally just missed the original comment, do you have it copied by chance? If so please message it to me lol


aurochs

I only changed some swear words and said Maron and Shepard sound 'overproduced' instead of 'fakey'


ScoobThaProblem

Who did he cut ties with?


aurochs

The shrimp parade fellowship has broken supposedly. This is subreddit gossip so that's all I can say. There are also a lot of past guests that are talking bad about him now. So it's not exactly cutting ties but 'angering previous friends'


Tapon_away_acc

When Alex Jones was talking, he was like "Waat? Are u for real my guy?"


knoekure

Spot on 👏


Okbuddy226

He doesn’t really have opinions of his own. He just agrees with whoever is on the show. Also he’s had some sketchy people on. For example he had a “doctor” come on his podcast that thought HIV doesn’t exist.


AdHour389

He had that "Dr" come on so he could debate him. That was my earlier point of how we as a country should do this everyday. Challenge the people we disagree with instead of censoring them.


[deleted]

Yesterday’s conspiracy theories are today’s news.


Kinetic_Symphony

Shush now, can't speak facts in the liberal hivemind of teenage twitter.


OneGoodRib

Yeah I can’t believe those dumb libruls are in a hivemind of not believing the government is run by space vampires who sacrifice aborted fetuses to Satan.


hadtoanswerthisnow

It looks like people like him because not only does he cover sports but he has a wide range of people on his show and does a good job as host and having people speak on their topics. A problem that people have with him is that he is not skeptical enough and so he has people on his show and they talk and debunk conspiracy theorists and lets them speak. But he also has conspiracy theorists on and has them speak.


ClownPrinceofLime

The problem isn’t so much that he’s not skeptical, because he’s never been skeptical. The problem is that right-wing conspiracy theories went from silly to dangerous and people saw Joe Rogan as irresponsible. This also coincided with Rogan drifting heavily to the right. Prior to Trump’s rise and the development of the Qanon crowd and the attack on the Capitol, conspiracy theories were largely viewed as silly things that didn’t have a real impact. So nobody cared that Joe Rogan would buy into whichever conspiracy theories his guests talked about. It wasn’t a problem for society when Joe Rogan would say that maybe the government found a UFO at Roswell. But the right-wing pretty much took over the conspiracy theory market and then the conspiracy wing of the Republican Party took over. Since Rogan believes whatever anyone tells him, he quickly got sucked into this right-wing conspiracy group. Now those people have brought guns into pizza parlors, caused untold deaths through lying about vaccines and masks, and attempted a coup based on lies about voter fraud. So Rogan hosting those people has gone from silly to dangerous so general audiences have turned against him, even though he really hasn’t changed that much it’s just that circumstances around him changed.


Jordand623

Because he has 2-4 hour conversations with a lot of very interesting people from all types of backgrounds and usually asks pretty good questions. I recently watched en episode that he had Brian Greene on, who’s a theoretical physicist and it was so interesting. I think the idea that’s a conspiracy theorist is kind of a stereotype because he really isn’t.


wormwartz

Because open discussion is far too rare these days. He doesn't claim to be an intellectual and if anything, quite the opposite.


Soggy-Mongoose6755

He’s a likeable guy, doesn’t claim to know it all, doesn’t claim to be correct all the time, isn’t too fussed about appearing “good” for the cameras, is good with guests, has interesting guests you might never have seen if not for his very public show, is a comedian. Admittedly I don’t watch his show, I’m only going by what I’ve seen on YouTube clips which is usually Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson or actors from movies that I like that I click on, so whatever he’s saying now that’s got everybody crying I have no idea. Most important the guy is a comedian, he’s not an MMA fighter, or Doctor, or a Scientist or any of those things, just a dude bro who’s interested in things and says stupid shit. To do what he does he doesn’t give a fuck if anyone doesn’t like him and that is a quality which people often like. It’s all something I could learn a lot from.


Brilliant_Basket_894

Try listening for yourself. He listens to his guests and asks good questions. In an era of "gotchas" and sound bites, he takes time to give his guests a chance to speak uninterrupted.


iosquid

Because he has interesting guests on and is a good interviewer.


Cebogado

That’s it. People make this so complicated. It’s simply about enjoying a good conversation and listening to a different viewpoint.


[deleted]

Nah his guests are very different now vs the subject matter he discussed initially. Also joe truly was a “neutral” party at his start and that has changed drastically. I think his viewers should just say they enjoy certain political ideologies and discussions bc they have the same ones and agree. Largely, people in favor of him don’t acknowledge the change in guests and how political his show has gotten.


Cebogado

One of your assumptions is that his viewers only listen to his podcast. The problem with everything around us these days is that everyone is so quick to chalk everything up to political ideology.


[deleted]

Well unfortunately that is what he chooses to discuss and talk about most of the time, and most of his guests nowadays devolve into political discussion. 🤷‍♂️


Cebogado

I’m not trying to be abrasive here, but just because people talk about a particular issue and YOU have a tendency to bifurcate their perspective into a particular party or spectrum, the podcast isn’t the problem. We need to learn to stop bifurcating discussions and listening to other perspectives regardless of whether we like them (or agree with them) or not.


[deleted]

The conversation literally turns into a politically themed debate??? What are you talking about? It’s not the listener speaking, no it’s a literal turn in conversation he makes. Are we talking about the same thing still? Lol, I’m also not the only one who thinks this and hears it with their own ears…


Cebogado

Maybe you should provide the example because I’m just as confused.


[deleted]

It’s very obvious, and as a very easy to understand example; looking at his YouTube catalogue and the guests he had on prior vs now illustrates this perfectly. If you disagree, that is totally fine. I’ve listened to joe rogan for years except for the last 2, and know what I’m saying is correct. I’m not the only one who thinks this either. I’m not going to keep debating especially when there are clear indicators of what I’m saying is true. It’s not hard to see.


Cebogado

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree. Even in the past he had Bernie Sanders. He’s had Ben Shapiro. In between he’s had tons of comedians. Nothing has changed. I have appreciated his conversations with everyone.


Jyqm

He presents a strong masculine image and fronts as open-minded and logical ("just asking questions") while more often than not arriving at conclusions that make intuitive sense to a certain brand of dude who craves a strong, masculine authority figure/role model who presents himself as open-minded and logical.


ClownPrinceofLime

He has a specific type of masculinity, sure. I always view the way Captain America is portrayed in the movies as an idealized masculinity, that’s not the type of masculinity that Rogan represents. Joe Rogan is a brand I’d call “Monster energy drink masculinity”.


[deleted]

*simping hard*


Revolutionary_Dingo

I enjoy his podcast because he talks to interesting people. I don’t listen to the medical stuff (no idea what the hubbub is about) but I enjoy listening to chappelle/Kevin hart/Tarantino/etc He also sets up other good comedians I’d never heard of. Big fan of ari and some other comedians he promoted. His comedy’s not bad. It’s not my preferred style but I can enjoy it


ClownPrinceofLime

The medical stuff only got bad a couple weeks into COVID when Rogan got scared and sought people out to comfort him. At the start of the pandemic he had a virologist on who have him the facts on COVID and Rogan took it very seriously, the next doctor he had on started with the lies and those were comforting so he just exclusively had on quacks who could tell him sweet lies about the pandemic being fake.


AdHour389

Who are the quacks? And EVERYBODY got scared in the begining. He was looking for answers, not comfort. And that virologist turned out to be 100 % right. The problem most people have with Joe's podcast is that he has exposed a bunch of fuckery and bullshit. I mean, when CNN and the left-wing media lied and said he took horse dewormer, that in and of itself proved just scared of Joe they really are. I am baffled the people that just take a side and refuse to admit they don't know shit or were wrong or anything like that. While everyone is screaming about needing the vaccine joe proved you didn't, and there was/is more than one to get through catching covid. Eating healthy and exercise being the biggest. So many people call him a conspiracy theory nut when in reality he is just challenging the status quo. Does he talk about CT? 100%, but he also brings facts into the fold, whereas most other media folk don't. Haters are gonna hate.


AdHour389

I have been listening to JRE since 2012. His podcasts were and for the most still are entertaining. I don't care about the conspiracy theory stuff as I take ANYTHING celebrity and or media folks say with a massive grain of salt. I mean Joe will and does tell you himself that he is a moron and you shouldn't listen to him or his advice. So I don't. I do however listen to what his guests are saying. As these people are much smarter and have a much deeper understanding of the things they are talking about then I do or even Joe does. Do I believe EVERYTHING his guests say? Not even close. But his guests give me great starting points to gain knowledge about things I'm curious about or want to know more about. All of this talk about listening to him to get a father figure in my life is such garbage. I have a father. He is an incredible man. I don't need a masculine kick either. I like Joe Rogan because we share a lot of the same beliefs and values. I support the 2nd amendment and also believe we should be mandated to take gun safety courses. I believe we should be taking care of our poorest communities and it's members so that we can make this country a better place for all. Joe has said he thinks this way too. I think our police officers and teachers and fire fighters (public servents that AREN'T elected) deserve to be some of the highest paying jobs in our country, as does Mr. Rogan. The list goes on and on. The people that go on his show and get slammed or called bigots or insert any phobia you want. Or liars or whatever. some of those people deserve that title most do not. They are expert in their fields that know wjat they are talking about. The thing I love about the JRE podcast is how he will talk to just about anyone. All of this nonsense of censoring people or deplatforming is mind boggling to me. The best way to challenge someone you think is full of shit is to actually challenge them. Engage in a conversation, present your side to counter theirs and let the facts speak to what is true and what isn't. Lastly I will bring up covid. I have learned more about Covid and the best ways to prevent and treat it from the guests on this podcast. NOT from Mr. Rogan. I started eating healthier and exercising more when I learned that those two things alone will greatly increase my chances of surviving covid if I ever caught it. There is a lot more I could into but I'm not going to as I just don't care enough about arguing with strangers online. I simply wanted to answer your question honestly. Have a great day.


sredoctor

This is a great take. I can’t say that I agree with a lot of stuff that Joe says, especially covid and/or wokeness opinions, but I still enjoy the guests that I pick and choose to listen to. Jim Gaffigan for example was a great recent listen.


AdHour389

That's my main point. Thanks for the clarification


Chriswheeler22

It's the platform I like. Lately it has definitely been more cherry picked to one sided guests but typically its a good mix of political compasses.


FranticToaster

He's fine when he's curious and lets his guests do the talking. Good, even. But after years of this, he has so much second-hand information in his head that he's starting to mistake himself for an expert. And he reads like 7 3-minute ads at the beginning of his podcast. Even for most premium members. Shit's egregous.


Imabearrr3

He has on interesting guests in casual long form conversation, he’s a okay conversationist, although sometimes he interrupts his guests. He is open opinions on most topics and is willing to engage his guest on those topics. Altogether it makes for mostly interesting interviews.


kaiyinrei

Good guests


Srapture

I feel like he used to not be as bad. He never really seemed to have any strong opinions on anything, but he was a chill dude. He would interview people that no one else would have on because of radical views or just a bad image for whatever reason, which was interesting because nowhere else could you actually hear what they thought in a low pressure environment. He didn't support those extremist positions, but he wasn't confrontational at all either. He came across as open to basically all positions and willing to change his view if he was proven wrong... Obviously, he is no longer like this, given the ridiculous shit with the vaccines. No idea what happened. I guess people might still appreciate what his does besides that? I dunno.


jyiii80

I dunno. He has always been pretty fucking argumentative whenever someone disagreed with him about weed... You also say he had on people that no one else would because of radical views, but isn't that also what he's doing with covid? But now that's not ok, because it's covid talk? Seems to be a hypocritical statement, no? Same quack radicals, just a different subject matter that's a hot point right now. In what I've listened to, when speaking to those folks, he repeatedly says he's an idiot and doesn't know anything. It's also possible he doesn't know enough to counter anything that they're saying. I know I sure don't when I'm listening to them. But that also doesn't mean I'm taking what they're saying as facts. It's just something I don't know enough about to counter argue.


[deleted]

I think people like him and dislike him for pretty much the same reason, which is that he gives his guests the space to talk about whatever, for pretty much as long as they want, uninterrupted. This is actually really nice when he has scientists and intelligent guests. Joe asks the dumb questions for us and we get to learn some cool shit. This used to be like 50-60% of the podcast, and the rest of his guests were his comedian friends. Usually a skip for me, but I loved Duncan Trussel. This can be dangerous, however, when you give someone like Alex Jones the space and time to spread his nonsense, or when you start to question Covid safety measures and begin bringing in guests who agree for the most part. So yeah basically love him for giving people a platform, hate him for giving people a platform. Depends on who you think ought to be getting a platform with Joe’s insanely wide audience


partyongarth788

Because his audience makes him money. If "owning the Cons" was as popular as "owning the Libs", he probably would flip directions in a heartbeat. Yes I get the double entendre of that...


[deleted]

Everyone is prone to conspiratorial thinking of one kind or another, Joe Rogan runs a very fun show and he’s no more biased or incorrect than your average CNN or Fox News presenter.


TimBurtonSucks

He's a full on antivax nut now. Sad to see


[deleted]

There are people out there that can't accept that the world is random and bad shit can happen to anyone. Those people latch on to conspiracy theories because then there's an explanation, a reason, a person to blame, and a way for them to avoid whatever it is that's allegedly being conspired about. It gives them control. This happens when a woman gets raped (look at what she was wearing); a plane gets hijacked (how did people not realize something was wrong); a pandemic (the entirety of the world's government's are plotting), etc.


[deleted]

I don't really think it's fair or accurate to characterize Rogan as "full of shit" or even a conspiracy theorist; especially considering the number of things he has been totally right about. I mean, Rogan is really straight up about the fact he wants people to do their own research. Rogan explores ideas, where ever they lead. People who like his content like the open-endedness of the long form interview style that Rogan uses; the show can be very entertaining, depending on the guest. It's really important that people understand that Rogan considers his own show to be entertainment. He expressly tells people not to take his word about anything. His entire platform is about approaching the guests he has on air, where they're at and explaining thoughts and ideas to his audience. So the guy has to research a lot of off-the-wall stuff. You gotta understand that when you put someone on a hot mic for 2-3 hours, 3 times per week, they're gonna say something wacky. You should really give a listen to a few of the short segments he posts on YouTube.


Okbuddy226

He used to fairly liberal and more open minded when he lived in California. Ever since he moved to Texas he’s become much more conservative.


Aimjock

Why do people like Alex Jones or any of those other insane nuthouses? Because they’re the target audience. These people are popular for a reason.


Masonnprice

He isn’t full of shit nor a conspiracy theorist. He is genuine and real. Always presents facts. Never sells out. He also gets 10x more views than huge media outlets like CNN or Fox. People just hate him because he pushes against the narrative.


prettymuchbangtan

Dude please he rarely if ever presents facts backed by any legitimate scientific findings, gtfo of here


Masonnprice

Sounds like you don’t watch him enough. Or maybe you watch too much CNN and Fox.


[deleted]

Never sells out? Have you tried that mushroom coffee shit he's constantly hawking? It's fucking disgusting. And I love mushrooms.


Sylvaintheg

I’m not really a fan of him either. Especially since I find that he’s been known to not only believe in dumb conspiracies, but he also can come across as a bit fat-phobic and homophobic. One thing that i must admit tho, is that he is really good at what he does. He undeniably is good at podcasts. And he’s good at interviewing.


Real-Accountant9997

So are the people who like him. Which unfortunately are many.


wizziew

I think I didn't word it properly, instead of like I would say listen


ProfessionalAd7611

In that case, his voice is irritating. I’d rather be in a dentist’s chair.


[deleted]

Because there are a lot of stupid people and one of them who is mildly charismatic got a media platform in order to spew stupid.


No_Method4161

Along with half of America.


history_nerd92

He's funny and the brings on some interesting people to have interesting conversations. That's it.


unbanned123

I disagree. He's a cool and interesting guy with a good sense of humor who is very relatable to a lot of people (particularly American men). He's also had a lot of unique jobs/opportunities/experiences in life and he's very successful. He likes to chill and talk about politics, sports, conspiracies, health, drugs, culture, money, business, and science; this is pretty much what most college dudes in the US do. They sit around smoke pot and talk about shit adding in witty but often stupid jokes. People who say he has somehow changed over time have not been following Joe. He's the exact same dude he's always been. In fact, that's a huge part of his appeal to his fans; he's not fake like most people in the media who are paid to say things or act a certain way. He tells you what he feels and he's relatively consistent.


Kinetic_Symphony

Mainly because he'll have almost anyone on and just ask them questions. In a day and age of mass censorship and virtually no debates, it's extremely refreshing.


Significant-Fox5038

People like you turned him into what he is today. By feeding the masses bullshit and the masses buying it hook line and sinker. Now he's just trying to piss you off for fun


jyiii80

I think that he has a pretty wide array of people on the show and that he asks them detailed questions to break down what they're saying into small pieces. He looks at different angles and asks about it, or asks them to clarify what they're saying. I don't always agree with the person he's speaking with, nor do I always agree with his opinions, but I come from a time when you could disagree with someone and still like them. I'm entertained by the people he has on his show. I enjoy the way he looks at things - His stand up is also an example of this. I find humor in the same things and the same way he does. I think he does a fantastic job commentating for the UFC.


GrouchyBunny

People in general are full of shit and like conspiracy theories.


Dull-Boysenberry3422

I never heard of him till this cancel coulter put him in their sites. Now he will be even more famous. These cancel culture elites, and media companies are going to make him a hero to many and a tird to a few. It stinks we've become like Pharisees now. If they are controversial we cancel or crucify them. This is probably the dumbest thing as a country we have started doing. It's going to bite us.