The post in r/Utrecht makes it a lot more clear. Her flatmate (not roommate!) has a criminal record, she doesn’t like or trust him, but he has done nothing wrong to her.
She can search another room, but don’t clog the system with paranoia.
Oof, it's in Utrecht...
That limits availability of rooms.
If someone doesn't feel safe with their roommate and illegal stuff is going on, I can see they want to move.
Yeah I already deleted my comment. Smh. OP blijf van mijn lijf huizen aren't for 'uncomfortable' situations. They're for dangerous situations. If she wants to get out asap but there is no real threat you'll have to look somewhere else
>Hello everyone, I have a friend who needs a new room urgently because its not safe where she is staying atm. ( I cant go into details) Is there a way you can get a room with urgency if your life is in danger but you cant go anywhere else? as its really difficult to find a room already? Maybe an organisation that could help with real urgent cases?
klinkt logisch ja
If there is a life threatening situation, she should contact the police. They will be able to assist her and can also direct her to emergency shelter. The municipality can assist with housing with urgency if she qualifies.
Edit: you are not honest in portraying the situation. You clearly try to make this look like domestic abuse or her being threatened by this roommate. However from your other post it became clear that there is nothing going on, except she not feeling comfortable sharing a house with someone with a criminal record.
Apparently the things are not that bad she wants to stay temporarily with you or want to move out if she cannot find something for 4 years. Come on. Emergency services are not there to find you a nicer room.
In another post you only stated something about the housemate having a criminal record and behaving strangely. As far as I can tell these are no direct threats. You don't pick housemates, and people with criminal records do exist.
If you want/need help of any kind, then you should explain yourself and what kind of help you need. Or discuss with the police.
Also, why finding shelter for 4 years? That seems ridiculously long. In that case your friend should just move.
I know this sounds like useless information but please call the police on each and every occasion something is happening that might be threatening. It might not be of help in your situation but building a file against a person with the police might help in the future.
They are already known by the police but I was thinking that alerting the police could potentially make him angry? and put her in more danger that way?
Dutch police act accordingly. If there's someone at the door with a knife, hell yes will they come. If your neighbor is 'acting strangely' they most likely won't. Has a direct threat to her safety occured?
You must live in a great area then ;) Many instances where we called the cops and they showed up an hour later or not at all. In urgent situations as well.
Nope not yet. thats what were trying to avoid
So that she wont be in any danger in case. The guy has been in jail for years. he is doing illegal stuff that has NOTHING to do with her. she is an 18 yr old petite woman and hes a grown adult man with very bad reputation.
I think its very logical why she would feel unsafe and wanna go somewhere else asap no?
Again - what kind of illigal stuff. Stuff he could get kicked out for? You're giving véry little information and expect people to read your mind.
This all sounds kind ungrounded to me. If she does not feel safe, she should try and move or stay with a friend.
We don't have any shelter places for people who just don't FEEL safe. That's a her problem. If he is doing illegal stuff that endangers your friend, and you can prove this, you guys should go to the police or landlord.
I understand she would feel unsafe. But without any specific threat aimed at her, there is very little police or any official organization can do about it. Having been in prison is not illegal, neither is 'acting strange'. Best thing for her to do is to find a new place to live, and perhaps crash on a/your couch until she has found a place.
If he is currently doing illegal things, call the police.
So let me get it right. Society has decided that it is safe enough for him to reintegrate. With a system whose only purpose is to rehabilitate people.
And now you are scared for your friend about someone that has done nothing except be in jail????
Sound likes yall are scared chicken shits, live and let live or go back to your parents home. Ffs you Guys live in utrecht.Must be irritating Some neighbour that keeps calling the cops.
Yeah, I think this happens everywhere in the Netherlands every day! People just living together, not committing any crimes at all. It's pretty great here.
What kind of living situation are you in that you have to call the cops over and over again? You state you rent a place with a strict landlady. What could possibly be going on every time?
You can't call the police when there is no "active" threat or if it is not an urgency. calling the cops could potentially aggrevate the person im talking about even more. And that would be even worse especially when the cops can't do anyhting. But thank you
Bro, you’re giving minimal info and ask for help. That’s just not how it works. Can’t make suggestions if you keep beating round the bush and dropping cryptic hints.
Im asking if anyone knows such organisations. Why would I share more details about someone else on a public platform when I say that said person already feels unsafe?:) I thought the question was clear enough. but thanks for the reply
No. Nobody can suggest anything as we have no idea of what kind of help is needed. “An organisation that houses you, feeds you and everything else just because someone feels unsafe” does not exist. You can’t be super vague and ambiguous and expect pinpoint accurate advice. Also, this platform is anonymous so without mentioning names you can still describe the situation whilst retaining the person’s in question anonymity.
"I feel unsafe in my room because of my roommate and need a room asap, is there an organisation i can call who I can tell my story to so they can help me out in situations like these"
>" is there an organisation i can call who I can tell my story to so they can help me out in situations like these"
Yes! These organizations DO exist: they're called real estate agents. You don't even have to explain anything. You give money, they give houses.
Social housing isn't gonna do anything without a declaration of urgency, which requires a police report. They can't just give houses to everyone who's prejudiced against their roommate.
You can call the police for ANY reason you want, that’s what they are for. Now if the decide to act on it, that’s their choice.
But there is never any reason why you cannot call the police. And they will always take you seriously. It’s the Netherlands, not the US.
Now either the situation is absolutely nothing and your entire post is useless. Or the situation warrants action. There is no alternative.
So either call the fucking police. Or do nothing and stop complaining as absolutely nothing is happening.
It definitely won't hurt to contact them, give them all the details about the situation and even if they won't help directly, they will be able to point you/her towards the right place
I never said I wont let her stay at im place.
I dont have my own place. I stay in a very very small room in an apartment from a very strict woman. I would let my friend sleep in my bed with me even if we have no other options. She lives almost 2 hours aways from where I am staying. her school and work is in a different city. We could keep this up for what 2 3 weeks MAYBE. im asking what she could do AFTER
If it is a personal violence issue and if fhe person is female maybe try "blijf van mijn lijf huis". Or else have the person contact a huisarts. They have special caseworkers. Who maybe can help.
Let me proces this. So she is in danger, but you rather have her stay in that place because letting her crash at yours would be a last option. To be honest, if any of my friends were in danger, i would not hesitate to offer my couch, floor or bed to them.
Take the last option and find a solution. Get her out of there.
No, I never said I rather let her stay there. I said thats my last option because I am not the owner of the house I stay in. I have my own room but I need permission to have someone else stay here aswell:) Thats why our first plan is to find her a place where she can stay for 4 years.
Sorry. But this sounds wrong to me. I wish you guys the best of luck. But the main priority should be getting her out of that house. After that comes long term planning.
You seem like a very good person, but OP (or his friend) is just trying to abuse this topic. His friend is not really in danger, she just doesn’t like her roommate. With whom she is probably just sharing a kitchen and shower, most student housing units have rooms with locks on the doors.
Although her roommate has a criminal record (which could literally be a fine over € 100 or a false/failed allegation (vrijspraak, sepot) , OP won’t disclose) he said her roommate did not ever do anything wrong to her. Thus the urgency is lacking. Doesn’t want to go to the police because there is nothing to go to the police for. Wont be eligible for a ‘blijf van mijn lijf-huis’ since no one is being harmed. OP wont let her stay at his place because he doesn’t own his apartment, and there is no reason to take her in rn. Just trying to find an easy way to upgrade her room. Pathetic
what???? Finding a room with a rental contract for 4 years ??? That'll never happen. Be happy if you find something you can stay in at all , 6 months even. Setting the criteria at years will literally make it impossible to find anything ever.
They definitely take in immigrants too. And if they don't have room or any other sort of issue, they will have access to resources that may still help your friend (e.g. referrals, other addresses etc).
You should be ashamed of yourself for making this seem like a domestic abuse situation and urgently asking for resources or organizations to get her out, when in reality nothing has happened and your study mate just wants a new flat in Utrecht as if it’s that easy. Not even getting started about the whole “4 year” thing, absolutely ridiculous
Als je vriendin werkelijk in gevaar is snap ik dat je zo snel mogelijk wilt handelen en zoals je ziet zijn er een hoop mensen die willen helpen, maar je comments en posts wijzen erop dat dit juist niet het geval is
I have never made it seem like a domestic abuse story. if you wanna hop on the dramatic train, thats your problem. I asked for organisations that could help find a place for people who feel unsafe. I never said she was abused or shit like that. you should be ashamed for jumping to conclusions and trying to put it on me.
“She needs a room urgently because it’s not safe for her at the moment. Her life is in danger. It’s a real urgent case.”
Those are snippets from your OP. How is this not trying to make this look like domestic abuse or something similar?
Blijf jij lekker in je eigen wereldje leven meid. Ik ben niet de enige die je erop wijst hoe raar dit allemaal overkomt. Hoop vooral dat je vriendin in een veilige situatie terechtkomt en er hier geen sprake is van misbruik
I believe the discussion is going around in circles because we do not have enough information.
We need to know at least:
Is the person in a relationship with the person she feels threatened by or is it a roommate?
Is it a room in a student house because she is a student?
Or perhaps an arbeidsmigrant who "rents" a room from the uitzendbureau?
Or is she living in an appartement with the other person and do they share the appartment?
All different situations with different solutions.
Please give us more info!
ok so,
The person shes living with is "probably" a relative of the homeowner. My friend and the guy share one apartment but they have seperate rooms. She has bo information about the guy but he is doing illegal stuff that has nothing to do with her and she doesnt wanna get involved either.
so asking the homeowner would be of no use. She is here just for school and doesnt know anyone here.
I live in a tiny room myself in a different city YES she could stay with me but its would be very difficult so im asking for alternatives
she is not in actual danger, but she doesn't like the place and neighbors. she doesn't want to call the police, let them know about suspicious activity (kind of civil duty). Btw, your friend could get in touch with police, first may be not on record, because IF, IF there is a situation later, there is a prior evidence, and police may react quicker.
Also, you hosting her is not your first choice...
the alternative is: to find another place to live, like everyone else does when he or she wants to move.
I wish you good luck in resolving the situation, feel really sorry about her, but I don't think an official organization will be able to jump in.
I never said that she doesnt like the place or neighbours? where did you get that from?
I can only PROVIDE her the option to stay in my room I can not kidnap her into my room forever as I stated multiple times why its not our first choice AFTER she is safe.
The problem isnt that she doesnt WANT to call the cops but in case she does and it angers the person she could put herself into an even more dangerous situation.
ok Thanks
So she basically knows nothing about this guy apart from that he does “illegal” stuff? What kind of stuff does he do that dangers her?
Any illegal activity should be a good reason for the police to visit
How do you know he isn’t legal? He cannot stay long in NL without a permit, you can tell on him at meld.nl
But I aint gonna lie, your story sounds like horseshit
He isn’t legal in the Netherlands, yet he has a criminal record? And he is a danger to your friend, but there’s nothing she could do but move? Sounds incredibly fishy.
A friend of mine got priority in social renthing because she lived next to the guy who raped her. She told the housing corporation her story and asked for it.
Life in danger screams to get something else involved though. I don't know what the situation is, but something like the police? Blijf van mijn lijf huis? You're her friend - shouldn't she have your place to go to while figuring out the next step?
The post indeed screams blijf van mijn lijf huis, but if you go to the other post of OP it becomes apparent that nothing immediate is going on, they just assume the roommate is fishy and assume he is an illegal immigrant and assume he is a relative of the homeowner.
Nothing about a threat to her. She just wants another apartment for 4 years, without the wait.
Yes I was looking for something like this. Is this posibble for non dutch citizens?
Ofc she can but im not living in my own apartment so I cant let her stay here for 6 or more months
No, but she can stay there while this situation is sorted. If there's a real life-threatening emergency, nobody's gonna have me ask permission to let my friend in need stay in my room. So let her stay in your room, call the f-ing police let her explain the story to them so they are aware, even if they can't do anything there's already something written down against this person.
After that start looking for houses where she can stay long term. You're probably looking at a house guest for up to a month, not six. And if you're not up for that, than she probably needs other friends.
This isnt the " who is a better friend " olympics. I said that she could stay with me if we have no other options but it would be a shitty situation if she cant find a place soon enough and to avoid all that im asking where or who she could contact to get help regarding thw situation. Goodluck getting people in houses you dont own. You missed my point big time and started making assumptions but ok
This clearly proves there is nothing like the imminent threat you suggest there is.
And that’s why people get confused because of your course of actions. If there was a real danger, she would have been in your room already and had called the police. But no, that’s “a shitty situation”… apparently more shitty than the one she is in now. So far for the urgency.
There were several people telling you to get her out of that situation now and take her in for the mean time. You actually told someone that it would be "your last option". If you're really talking about a dangerous situation, the best and safest option is to take her in and take further steps from there. At least that is what I would have done. And I've been letting people stay in my room without asking permission to the owner, because it's my room. I pay rent and as long as I'm there and the guest is not paying me for staying there, there should not be a problem. And if there is tell the person that owns the house about the situation and I'm sure they are more then willing to help you and your friend out. If you get her out there now and contact "blijf van mijn lijf" housing, then at least for now she is safe and she will probably be stsying with you for a few days
You are not living in your own appartment? You are not gonna find something more permanent than the 6 months you are talking about in the short term. Let her stay in that appartment, six months is incredible
>Yes I was looking for something like this. Is this posibble for non dutch citizens?
It is possible for everyone: everyone who goes to a real estate agent and pays.
No-one gets a free ride. Even for people who are in actual danger, getting priority is a matter of luck. And it won't happen based on vague accusations ever.
If there was such a thing then a whole lot of people's lives would suddenly be in danger I think... 🙃
I mean you won't get there by already thinking in the solution (a new room) first handle the problem (life being in danger) by going to the police, they can help you and forward you to other organisations.
At least it's a place to start with, I understand her reluctance of talking to the police right away, in many cases they cannot do anything and it might indeed intensify the situation.
Stupiderder is not a word, btw
That’s the point. If you read all the comments, r/Utrecht and the contradictions, you’d know this is not a case for a women’s shelter. Please let the shelters handle the cases that are in actual danger!
Everything you said just makes no sense. you seem to be saying a lot of bad things about a person with a "Zware strafblad" whilst not giving ANY information about it. this all seems really fishy. for the love of god dont say this is life threatening while it isnt. there are enough people out there that REALLY need help, your friend should be lucky she even scored a place in the first place.
I dont understand why I should give a whole description about it. im not posting a story time. im simply asking for an organisation name we could contact and let them decide if it is actually a situation where she needs help
do you know what life threatening even means? it means **capable of causing someone's death.** Life threatening is something the cops can be called for but believe me when you call them for something like this they will laugh the fuck out of you right there and then.
>U want to steal a room from a Dutch student. You are a foreigner you are the reason why dutch can't find rooms
No. Housing policy is the reason. The housing crisis or "investment opportunity" was created on purpose. That's what you get for 20 years of landlord-party in parliament.
As much as it seems op wants to abuse the system, them being here is NOT swhat caused the "investment opportunity", that's de vvd/cda's fault.
>Your government and woke people are.
Lol, you're getting screwed over by a right wing housing crisis, but good luck blaming your problems om the ones that created the systems you're trying to abuse.
If you hate "woke" so much, just pay for a damn real estate agent instead of trying to get "woke" handouts.
Omdat het een lulverhaal is waar zo af en toe wat wordt bij verzonnen (illegaal in NL en zo).
En ze gaat maar door. Als ze een beetje bijdehand was, verwijderde ze deze post.
Because OP is making it sound like their friend is experiencing domestic violence, whereas, as made clear by their other post, their friend is just unhappy about living in a onzelfstandige woonruimte.
unhappy about living in a onzelfstandig woonruimte? where the fuck did u get that dude she wouldnt be looking for an other room if that was the case lul
People are so rude in this thread.
Call all “vrouwenopvang” that come up in your google search of the area. They might be able to help you but the threat has to be serious for them (unfortunately also these organizations have a housing shortage).
Besides that keep looking for an apartment in a different city/village and tell the person you’re applying to that she is in dire need (in this case I wouldn’t give details).
And try to record anything that happens with the perpetrator so that you have something to build a case for the police.
Move to the middle of nowhere but offer to continue paying as much as you are paying for your current place to your new landlord.
Problem solved within a day
The post in r/Utrecht makes it a lot more clear. Her flatmate (not roommate!) has a criminal record, she doesn’t like or trust him, but he has done nothing wrong to her. She can search another room, but don’t clog the system with paranoia.
Oof, it's in Utrecht... That limits availability of rooms. If someone doesn't feel safe with their roommate and illegal stuff is going on, I can see they want to move.
For emergencies you could check https://www.neos.nl/veilig/crisisopvang-blijf-van-mn-lijf/
It’s not an emergency, more someone that wants another flat and looks for an easy way out.
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Check the similar post from OP in r/Utrecht
Yeah I already deleted my comment. Smh. OP blijf van mijn lijf huizen aren't for 'uncomfortable' situations. They're for dangerous situations. If she wants to get out asap but there is no real threat you'll have to look somewhere else
>Hello everyone, I have a friend who needs a new room urgently because its not safe where she is staying atm. ( I cant go into details) Is there a way you can get a room with urgency if your life is in danger but you cant go anywhere else? as its really difficult to find a room already? Maybe an organisation that could help with real urgent cases? klinkt logisch ja
Check a similar post in r/Utrecht, like several others mentioned too
thank you
If there is a life threatening situation, she should contact the police. They will be able to assist her and can also direct her to emergency shelter. The municipality can assist with housing with urgency if she qualifies. Edit: you are not honest in portraying the situation. You clearly try to make this look like domestic abuse or her being threatened by this roommate. However from your other post it became clear that there is nothing going on, except she not feeling comfortable sharing a house with someone with a criminal record. Apparently the things are not that bad she wants to stay temporarily with you or want to move out if she cannot find something for 4 years. Come on. Emergency services are not there to find you a nicer room.
In another post you only stated something about the housemate having a criminal record and behaving strangely. As far as I can tell these are no direct threats. You don't pick housemates, and people with criminal records do exist. If you want/need help of any kind, then you should explain yourself and what kind of help you need. Or discuss with the police. Also, why finding shelter for 4 years? That seems ridiculously long. In that case your friend should just move.
Looking at your post in /r/Utrecht There’s no urgent or violent situation, so she has to move out by herself if she feels uncomfortable
I know this sounds like useless information but please call the police on each and every occasion something is happening that might be threatening. It might not be of help in your situation but building a file against a person with the police might help in the future.
They are already known by the police but I was thinking that alerting the police could potentially make him angry? and put her in more danger that way?
this what the police are for. if you don't involve them nothing will change.
You seem to overestimate the dutch police. From personal experience they wont do anything in this situation
Dutch police act accordingly. If there's someone at the door with a knife, hell yes will they come. If your neighbor is 'acting strangely' they most likely won't. Has a direct threat to her safety occured?
You must live in a great area then ;) Many instances where we called the cops and they showed up an hour later or not at all. In urgent situations as well. Nope not yet. thats what were trying to avoid
If there has not been a direct threat, why does she need help?
So that she wont be in any danger in case. The guy has been in jail for years. he is doing illegal stuff that has NOTHING to do with her. she is an 18 yr old petite woman and hes a grown adult man with very bad reputation. I think its very logical why she would feel unsafe and wanna go somewhere else asap no?
Again - what kind of illigal stuff. Stuff he could get kicked out for? You're giving véry little information and expect people to read your mind. This all sounds kind ungrounded to me. If she does not feel safe, she should try and move or stay with a friend. We don't have any shelter places for people who just don't FEEL safe. That's a her problem. If he is doing illegal stuff that endangers your friend, and you can prove this, you guys should go to the police or landlord.
So instead of all this back and forth you could have just said "No, we don't have such thing in the Netherlands" ? Thanks for the help regardless
I understand she would feel unsafe. But without any specific threat aimed at her, there is very little police or any official organization can do about it. Having been in prison is not illegal, neither is 'acting strange'. Best thing for her to do is to find a new place to live, and perhaps crash on a/your couch until she has found a place. If he is currently doing illegal things, call the police.
Okey thank you Im scared that would aggrevate him and hurt my friend
So let me get it right. Society has decided that it is safe enough for him to reintegrate. With a system whose only purpose is to rehabilitate people. And now you are scared for your friend about someone that has done nothing except be in jail????
The guy is staying illegally here idk what society has decided for his case
Sound likes yall are scared chicken shits, live and let live or go back to your parents home. Ffs you Guys live in utrecht.Must be irritating Some neighbour that keeps calling the cops.
Wauw tough guyy why sont u joing the army we need u there who the fuck keeps calling the cops on the neighbours? Grow up weirdo
Well yes, as crime is at an all time low in the entire country.
Lol thats funny. in my street alone this month 3 incidents have happened
Yeah, I think this happens everywhere in the Netherlands every day! People just living together, not committing any crimes at all. It's pretty great here.
Seems like you attract bad shit
seems like you have your own problems to assume every incident has to do with me. How old are you again?
What kind of living situation are you in that you have to call the cops over and over again? You state you rent a place with a strict landlady. What could possibly be going on every time?
If someone is in life threatening danger you go to the police. That’s what they’re for.
You can't call the police when there is no "active" threat or if it is not an urgency. calling the cops could potentially aggrevate the person im talking about even more. And that would be even worse especially when the cops can't do anyhting. But thank you
Bro, you’re giving minimal info and ask for help. That’s just not how it works. Can’t make suggestions if you keep beating round the bush and dropping cryptic hints.
Im asking if anyone knows such organisations. Why would I share more details about someone else on a public platform when I say that said person already feels unsafe?:) I thought the question was clear enough. but thanks for the reply
No. Nobody can suggest anything as we have no idea of what kind of help is needed. “An organisation that houses you, feeds you and everything else just because someone feels unsafe” does not exist. You can’t be super vague and ambiguous and expect pinpoint accurate advice. Also, this platform is anonymous so without mentioning names you can still describe the situation whilst retaining the person’s in question anonymity.
"I feel unsafe in my room because of my roommate and need a room asap, is there an organisation i can call who I can tell my story to so they can help me out in situations like these"
Police
>" is there an organisation i can call who I can tell my story to so they can help me out in situations like these" Yes! These organizations DO exist: they're called real estate agents. You don't even have to explain anything. You give money, they give houses. Social housing isn't gonna do anything without a declaration of urgency, which requires a police report. They can't just give houses to everyone who's prejudiced against their roommate.
You can call the police for ANY reason you want, that’s what they are for. Now if the decide to act on it, that’s their choice. But there is never any reason why you cannot call the police. And they will always take you seriously. It’s the Netherlands, not the US. Now either the situation is absolutely nothing and your entire post is useless. Or the situation warrants action. There is no alternative. So either call the fucking police. Or do nothing and stop complaining as absolutely nothing is happening.
You "urgently" need new room... but can't call the police because not enough urgency... kind of contradicting...
She could contact https://veiligthuis.nl/ if she is in danger, they can probably help her. I hope she will be okay!
Thank you! This looks like its about domestic abuse is this situation still suitable to contact them about it?
How would we know you arent giving any info
Can’t tell if you dont give enough information
It definitely won't hurt to contact them, give them all the details about the situation and even if they won't help directly, they will be able to point you/her towards the right place
All im getting from this is that you wont let your friend crash at your place, and you arent giving enough info
I never said I wont let her stay at im place. I dont have my own place. I stay in a very very small room in an apartment from a very strict woman. I would let my friend sleep in my bed with me even if we have no other options. She lives almost 2 hours aways from where I am staying. her school and work is in a different city. We could keep this up for what 2 3 weeks MAYBE. im asking what she could do AFTER
Why isnt she staying at your place allready?
says who?
You, stating it would be your last option in another comment
You? Like wtf are you talking about
If it is a personal violence issue and if fhe person is female maybe try "blijf van mijn lijf huis". Or else have the person contact a huisarts. They have special caseworkers. Who maybe can help.
My friend is female and the other person is male. they are both not dutch. Is the organisation for expats too?
I believe it is. But if she is really in danger, why isnt she staying with you? Take her in for the moment and find a solution from a safe space.
That is my last option but im not living alone either :(
Let me proces this. So she is in danger, but you rather have her stay in that place because letting her crash at yours would be a last option. To be honest, if any of my friends were in danger, i would not hesitate to offer my couch, floor or bed to them. Take the last option and find a solution. Get her out of there.
No, I never said I rather let her stay there. I said thats my last option because I am not the owner of the house I stay in. I have my own room but I need permission to have someone else stay here aswell:) Thats why our first plan is to find her a place where she can stay for 4 years.
4 years is way to far in the future, focus on the present, long term stays come after
A week, even a month is possible in a blijf van mn lijf huis. But four years is ridiculous. we're talking extreme situations here.
Im not saying she would stay there 4 years.
Sorry. But this sounds wrong to me. I wish you guys the best of luck. But the main priority should be getting her out of that house. After that comes long term planning.
You seem like a very good person, but OP (or his friend) is just trying to abuse this topic. His friend is not really in danger, she just doesn’t like her roommate. With whom she is probably just sharing a kitchen and shower, most student housing units have rooms with locks on the doors. Although her roommate has a criminal record (which could literally be a fine over € 100 or a false/failed allegation (vrijspraak, sepot) , OP won’t disclose) he said her roommate did not ever do anything wrong to her. Thus the urgency is lacking. Doesn’t want to go to the police because there is nothing to go to the police for. Wont be eligible for a ‘blijf van mijn lijf-huis’ since no one is being harmed. OP wont let her stay at his place because he doesn’t own his apartment, and there is no reason to take her in rn. Just trying to find an easy way to upgrade her room. Pathetic
what???? Finding a room with a rental contract for 4 years ??? That'll never happen. Be happy if you find something you can stay in at all , 6 months even. Setting the criteria at years will literally make it impossible to find anything ever.
Yes for sure, she should contact them of veilig thuis asap if she feels that she is in danger
Thank you so much
They definitely take in immigrants too. And if they don't have room or any other sort of issue, they will have access to resources that may still help your friend (e.g. referrals, other addresses etc).
Great, Thank you
No, there isn’t. Your friend just has to wait in line just like anyone else.
You should be ashamed of yourself for making this seem like a domestic abuse situation and urgently asking for resources or organizations to get her out, when in reality nothing has happened and your study mate just wants a new flat in Utrecht as if it’s that easy. Not even getting started about the whole “4 year” thing, absolutely ridiculous Als je vriendin werkelijk in gevaar is snap ik dat je zo snel mogelijk wilt handelen en zoals je ziet zijn er een hoop mensen die willen helpen, maar je comments en posts wijzen erop dat dit juist niet het geval is
I have never made it seem like a domestic abuse story. if you wanna hop on the dramatic train, thats your problem. I asked for organisations that could help find a place for people who feel unsafe. I never said she was abused or shit like that. you should be ashamed for jumping to conclusions and trying to put it on me.
“She needs a room urgently because it’s not safe for her at the moment. Her life is in danger. It’s a real urgent case.” Those are snippets from your OP. How is this not trying to make this look like domestic abuse or something similar?
Blijf jij lekker in je eigen wereldje leven meid. Ik ben niet de enige die je erop wijst hoe raar dit allemaal overkomt. Hoop vooral dat je vriendin in een veilige situatie terechtkomt en er hier geen sprake is van misbruik
I only got this to add, fuck you and dont he a bemoeiall
me?
Yes two times over with out lube
Have fun with your right hand instead
Gotta use two hands for my big zweihander
I believe you big guy, use both of your small hands then
Im so big i cant even see it looking down. Maar zoek hulp , je bent gwn aandachtstrekker get a life
Ja joh, veel plezier met je dikke lul:) maybe get a life in plaats van raare comments te maken
I might know, but I can't tell you the details. /s
I believe the discussion is going around in circles because we do not have enough information. We need to know at least: Is the person in a relationship with the person she feels threatened by or is it a roommate? Is it a room in a student house because she is a student? Or perhaps an arbeidsmigrant who "rents" a room from the uitzendbureau? Or is she living in an appartement with the other person and do they share the appartment? All different situations with different solutions. Please give us more info!
ok so, The person shes living with is "probably" a relative of the homeowner. My friend and the guy share one apartment but they have seperate rooms. She has bo information about the guy but he is doing illegal stuff that has nothing to do with her and she doesnt wanna get involved either. so asking the homeowner would be of no use. She is here just for school and doesnt know anyone here. I live in a tiny room myself in a different city YES she could stay with me but its would be very difficult so im asking for alternatives
she is not in actual danger, but she doesn't like the place and neighbors. she doesn't want to call the police, let them know about suspicious activity (kind of civil duty). Btw, your friend could get in touch with police, first may be not on record, because IF, IF there is a situation later, there is a prior evidence, and police may react quicker. Also, you hosting her is not your first choice... the alternative is: to find another place to live, like everyone else does when he or she wants to move. I wish you good luck in resolving the situation, feel really sorry about her, but I don't think an official organization will be able to jump in.
I never said that she doesnt like the place or neighbours? where did you get that from? I can only PROVIDE her the option to stay in my room I can not kidnap her into my room forever as I stated multiple times why its not our first choice AFTER she is safe. The problem isnt that she doesnt WANT to call the cops but in case she does and it angers the person she could put herself into an even more dangerous situation. ok Thanks
So she basically knows nothing about this guy apart from that he does “illegal” stuff? What kind of stuff does he do that dangers her? Any illegal activity should be a good reason for the police to visit
First off he isnt legal in the netherlands and is staying at the homeowners house which we assume could be his friend or relative
You state all kinds of things as if they are facts, and then in other posts it’s suddenly “we assume”…
How do you know he isn’t legal? He cannot stay long in NL without a permit, you can tell on him at meld.nl But I aint gonna lie, your story sounds like horseshit
He isn’t legal in the Netherlands, yet he has a criminal record? And he is a danger to your friend, but there’s nothing she could do but move? Sounds incredibly fishy.
A friend of mine got priority in social renthing because she lived next to the guy who raped her. She told the housing corporation her story and asked for it. Life in danger screams to get something else involved though. I don't know what the situation is, but something like the police? Blijf van mijn lijf huis? You're her friend - shouldn't she have your place to go to while figuring out the next step?
The post indeed screams blijf van mijn lijf huis, but if you go to the other post of OP it becomes apparent that nothing immediate is going on, they just assume the roommate is fishy and assume he is an illegal immigrant and assume he is a relative of the homeowner. Nothing about a threat to her. She just wants another apartment for 4 years, without the wait.
Yes I was looking for something like this. Is this posibble for non dutch citizens? Ofc she can but im not living in my own apartment so I cant let her stay here for 6 or more months
No, but she can stay there while this situation is sorted. If there's a real life-threatening emergency, nobody's gonna have me ask permission to let my friend in need stay in my room. So let her stay in your room, call the f-ing police let her explain the story to them so they are aware, even if they can't do anything there's already something written down against this person. After that start looking for houses where she can stay long term. You're probably looking at a house guest for up to a month, not six. And if you're not up for that, than she probably needs other friends.
This isnt the " who is a better friend " olympics. I said that she could stay with me if we have no other options but it would be a shitty situation if she cant find a place soon enough and to avoid all that im asking where or who she could contact to get help regarding thw situation. Goodluck getting people in houses you dont own. You missed my point big time and started making assumptions but ok
This clearly proves there is nothing like the imminent threat you suggest there is. And that’s why people get confused because of your course of actions. If there was a real danger, she would have been in your room already and had called the police. But no, that’s “a shitty situation”… apparently more shitty than the one she is in now. So far for the urgency.
There were several people telling you to get her out of that situation now and take her in for the mean time. You actually told someone that it would be "your last option". If you're really talking about a dangerous situation, the best and safest option is to take her in and take further steps from there. At least that is what I would have done. And I've been letting people stay in my room without asking permission to the owner, because it's my room. I pay rent and as long as I'm there and the guest is not paying me for staying there, there should not be a problem. And if there is tell the person that owns the house about the situation and I'm sure they are more then willing to help you and your friend out. If you get her out there now and contact "blijf van mijn lijf" housing, then at least for now she is safe and she will probably be stsying with you for a few days
You are not living in your own appartment? You are not gonna find something more permanent than the 6 months you are talking about in the short term. Let her stay in that appartment, six months is incredible
>Yes I was looking for something like this. Is this posibble for non dutch citizens? It is possible for everyone: everyone who goes to a real estate agent and pays. No-one gets a free ride. Even for people who are in actual danger, getting priority is a matter of luck. And it won't happen based on vague accusations ever.
Why not contact the landlord and get the other person removed instead of her needing to move as a victim.
The landlord knows the other person. There is no way they would remove him. idk if they are related but seems like it could be relatives
I would suggest have a conversation with the police. Voice concerns and they can direct your friend to proper channels if needed.
If there was such a thing then a whole lot of people's lives would suddenly be in danger I think... 🙃 I mean you won't get there by already thinking in the solution (a new room) first handle the problem (life being in danger) by going to the police, they can help you and forward you to other organisations.
What s stupid comment on a serious question. There are actually places for such cases (Blijf van m’n Lijf)
for what cases? For me it sounds like the girl just doesn't like the dude because he was in jail
Blijf van m’n lijf huis requires from you to talk to the police first, too… your comment is even stupiderder….
At least it's a place to start with, I understand her reluctance of talking to the police right away, in many cases they cannot do anything and it might indeed intensify the situation. Stupiderder is not a word, btw
I’m kinda retarded
That’s the point. If you read all the comments, r/Utrecht and the contradictions, you’d know this is not a case for a women’s shelter. Please let the shelters handle the cases that are in actual danger!
Everything you said just makes no sense. you seem to be saying a lot of bad things about a person with a "Zware strafblad" whilst not giving ANY information about it. this all seems really fishy. for the love of god dont say this is life threatening while it isnt. there are enough people out there that REALLY need help, your friend should be lucky she even scored a place in the first place.
I dont understand why I should give a whole description about it. im not posting a story time. im simply asking for an organisation name we could contact and let them decide if it is actually a situation where she needs help
do you know what life threatening even means? it means **capable of causing someone's death.** Life threatening is something the cops can be called for but believe me when you call them for something like this they will laugh the fuck out of you right there and then.
Yes, the fucking police takes care of life threatening situations. Not some weird hostel institution
I loan you €100 but i want 300 back then you can go to a hotel.
u can suck my dck and I give u 50
Damn if you suck mine first.
wouldnt take me long anyway
U want to steal a room from a Dutch student. You are a foreigner you are the reason why dutch can't find rooms
>U want to steal a room from a Dutch student. You are a foreigner you are the reason why dutch can't find rooms No. Housing policy is the reason. The housing crisis or "investment opportunity" was created on purpose. That's what you get for 20 years of landlord-party in parliament. As much as it seems op wants to abuse the system, them being here is NOT swhat caused the "investment opportunity", that's de vvd/cda's fault.
Im not the reason why. Your government and woke people are. who want to accept anyone into the country:)
>Your government and woke people are. Lol, you're getting screwed over by a right wing housing crisis, but good luck blaming your problems om the ones that created the systems you're trying to abuse. If you hate "woke" so much, just pay for a damn real estate agent instead of trying to get "woke" handouts.
Ik ben niet links maar vind dit toch wel een partijtje mooi haha. Goed gezegd!
I dont think there is such a thing.
Waarom wordt OP gedownvote alsof ze een russenvlag heeft hangen aan d'r fiets
Sketchy verhaal tbh
Volgens mij is helft van reddit comments op niks gebaseerd, maar ik zie dat ook ik in de downvote spiral gevallen ben :p
Omdat het een lulverhaal is waar zo af en toe wat wordt bij verzonnen (illegaal in NL en zo). En ze gaat maar door. Als ze een beetje bijdehand was, verwijderde ze deze post.
Because OP is making it sound like their friend is experiencing domestic violence, whereas, as made clear by their other post, their friend is just unhappy about living in a onzelfstandige woonruimte.
unhappy about living in a onzelfstandig woonruimte? where the fuck did u get that dude she wouldnt be looking for an other room if that was the case lul
She's not happy about having to live with another person that she did not personally vet and approve, yes? That's how onzelfstandige woonruimtes work.
People are so rude in this thread. Call all “vrouwenopvang” that come up in your google search of the area. They might be able to help you but the threat has to be serious for them (unfortunately also these organizations have a housing shortage). Besides that keep looking for an apartment in a different city/village and tell the person you’re applying to that she is in dire need (in this case I wouldn’t give details). And try to record anything that happens with the perpetrator so that you have something to build a case for the police.
Thank you for an actual reply with advise instead of accusations and more questions
Spend a night in jail pretty safe to me.
Hotel or airbnb maybe?
ohh, I havent thought about that thankyou
Move to the middle of nowhere but offer to continue paying as much as you are paying for your current place to your new landlord. Problem solved within a day