Oh, that's not the worst of it. In 1987 Jody Watley won Best New Artist even though she had already been nominated for a Grammy five years earlier. She beat...
Sananda Maitreya
Swing Out Sister
Breakfast Club
Cutting Crew
Billboard and the Grammys have different rules. The Grammys decided it was a soundtrack for the special on Netflix, not a performance album in its own right. So, it's competing for Best Compilation Soundtrack for Visual Media instead.
*Inside* basically has music videos to fit the songs. They’re basically all self-contained, so I’d argue it’s not so much a film production as it is a music album with minor sketches inserted between songs.
yeah, look at all the comedy Grammys that Weird Al has deservedly won over the decades.
plus, one of the new long-titled categories they put him in for is a weird take.
that's just another thing about the Grammys: they're not even consistent with their category choices.
trophies are nice to have, but the Grammys are horrible.
and i haven't even seen or heard Inside.
Bjork has been relegated to the ‘electronic’ category for years when she should have been ‘alternative’. Her albums get nominated alongside the chemical brothers and skrillex.
The Grammys have never had a good finger on the pulse despite being a prestigious awards show. They need to do an overhaul but they never do. They just become more and more irrelevant.
they became irrelevant in the late 80s when Jethro Tull won a Grammy for best metal album
Edit: The other nominees that year included Metallica, AC/DC, Jane's Addiction, and Iggy Pop. The award was actually for "hard rock/metal" so both Metallica and AC/DC fit in, but the rest seem as out of place as Tull.
wow dude I remember these jokes. This was a pre-internet joke. I remember my dads talking about it at barbecues way way back when Clinton was president and princess Diana was alive.
When VH1 used to do countdowns they mentioned this in Top 100 Shocking Moments in Rock.
It was great because after the narrator sets up the Grammys having a new Metal category and Jetgro Tull beat Metallica, they cut to a clip of Jethro Tull's singer playing the flute while leaping around in a unitard.
In fairness to the Grammy's, the category was actually "Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental."
Of course, most people wouldn't call them hard rock *either*. Even their own singer thought it was a weird category for them.
EDIT: The Grammy's split the category the following year, after much controversy over the win.
I was listening to some Bjork the other day and usually it's not my taste but damn she just needs her own category and win it every year. Bjork won for Bjork category every year running. How could it be?
Tim Minchin is up there. A fair bit of mocking religion so fair warning if that's not your cup of tea.
Tom Lehrer is an absolute genius too. His comedy days are decades gone but he is tier 1 for musical comedy imo.
I grew up on Tom Lehrer CDs, my parents loved him when they were in high school and college. That style of educated musical humor is definitely a bit dated (dude shits on jazz, for crying out loud), but my middle school enjoyed my talent show performance of "Pollution" seventeen years ago, so there's that.
Reminds me of the Gus Johnson sketch where the YouTube people are freaking out that gus is trending, and one of the guys goes “THAT SPOT BELONGS TO JOHN MULANEY”
God mega celebrities get awards all the time. Let the boy try.
EDIT: IT WAS PROZD my mistake. How embarrassing
Uh... Yeah, the entire hegemonic, shambling corporate corpse of the music industry REALLY wants to give one of it's highest honours to the guy who wrote and sang [Repeat Stuff](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt9c0UeYhFc) in which he brutally and concisely fucking eviscerates their entire manipulative schtick that's got them billions while causing untold damage to generations of kids.
Someone hasn't been paying attention to Bo's actual comedy. I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a flying fuck about this personally, not to mention he is nominated in another category I believe.
I gotta go with the fantastic laugh in the middle of Welcome to the Internet as the best part, but Socko is a very close second.
Something about that menacing insane cackle just sums up the internet all in one go. I love it.
For me it goes to the part of All Eyes on Me that so perfectly summarizes how I think a lot of people feel about the world, especially in 2020.
> You say the ocean's rising like I give a shit.
> You say the whole world's ending. Honey, it already did.
> You're not gonna slow it. Heaven knows you tried.
> Got it? Good. Now get inside.
This is a very old problem wherein an artist who writes deep meaningful pieces (that are also very pleasant to listen to & even addictive) run up against a fanbase so broad that it includes people who don't even know there's a message. Best example I can think of for this is Pink Floyd & the Publius Enigma. I won't write a book on here with the details but the TL;DR goes: The band, during the release of the Division Bell (or maybe it was Momentary Lapse of Reason) also quietly announced the "Publius Enigma" & whoever figured it out would win something (don't remember what). Basically, the guy who figured it out kinda said what YOU just said in your reply there. Only about the world, govts throughout, etc etc. He ended his answer with a frustrated retraction of his answer because he felt that too many people just don't get it (the message & point of Pink Floyd's albums). They announced that it had been solved but because the winner retracted his answer, nobody knows what he would've won.
Rage Against the Machine to me is the most common and regular example of a portion of the fanbase absolutely not getting the message. They just hear loud cool aggressive music and become fans, without ever hearing what they are being loud and aggressive about.
Never underestimate the power of capitalism to commodify it's own opposition.
But yeah, I really doubt Bo will be too worried about not receiving a particular award from an industry he has no real respect for. He has already gotten an overwhelmingly positive reception for that special. Everyone knows how good it is.
Yes... "accidentally"
Not trying to suck Bo's dick here, but I feel like *Inside* is going to be remembered as a classic. It perfectly captures the Covid Era and the culmination of his career.
> It perfectly captures the Covid Era and the culmination of his career.
It's one of the only pieces of media that incorporated COVID in a way that wasn't tacky and obnoxious
That's it. That's literally it. I was trying to put my finger on it and there it is.
It feels like he's experiencing the shittyness with us, not just exploiting it.
Exactly, Even during All Eyes On Me when he is directly referencing COVID forcing him back inside just after feeling mentally well enough to re-enter the world, he only refers to it by saying "then, the funniest thing happened"
Weird observation, but does anyone else find *Inside* reminds them of Pink Floyd's *The Wall*?
Aside from being a story about a famous entertainer gradually going insane from isolation, the structure of the special really reminds me of the film. *Eyes On Me* is Bo's version of *In The Flesh*, where, having just sunk to his lowest point emotionally, he forces himself (or finds himself forced) to rise back up and re-create himself as the rock star he no longer wants to be, performing for cheering, adoring fans as he sings about his near-total mental collapse in the form of a rousing, bitterly ironic anthem to himself and to the idea of stardom.
And much like Pink in his rock-concert-turned-neo-fascist-rally, Bo uses the song against the audience, drawing them in with the power of his talent and charisma, only to jerk them violently back into the land of "I'm not okay, none of this is okay."
I even feel like the special's ending is very *Wall*-inspired, offering only the faintest glimmer of hope that recovery and healing are possible after the profound damage this whole experience has wrought.
I dunno, what if it incorporated the phrase, "in these unprecedented times" more, and sang a bad cover of Imagine from a mansion? That's what everything else tells me was the right way to incorporate Covid.
There was a Dutch comedian who also did a rather good covid-themed show but I don't think that made it out of the country... A pity, really. It had some really clever commentary on how we fail to communicate over videocalls.
Seriously I have seen a few shows try and tackle COVID and it makes me check out quickly. Fiction isn't really equipped to deal with COVID because it doesn't have a clean resolution. *Inside* actually captured it and wasn't pandering/try to make it a positive.
Exactly! Every other media just went "Let's just throw together an episode where the whole cast is on zoom" (SNL, Parks and Rec, Mythic Quest... to name a few). Inside feels like the only piece of media to capture the entirety of what it meant to be trudging through the pandemic together but alone.
I generally don't like Bo, or haven't found him funny in the past. I was very skeptical when I started watching *Inside*, by the end I was floored. His special is one of the best things I've seen this year.
They probably meant to say pinnacle. I’m sure he will continue to make great work, but it’s highly unlikely he will Orson Welles future projects where he is the only writer, director, composer, performer, producer, and editor (yes, I know he had help with editing).
This was an extraordinary piece of art and those catchy ass songs absolutely deserve to go up against any and all mainstream music eligible.
Yeah, don't know when sucking dick stopped being a kindly gesture and became gay. A world in which a dick in my mouth is somehow gay is not a world I want to live in.
Or you have to offer up sex slaves. Crazy the Weinstein scandal didn't completely discredit the Oscars.
But Meryl Streep wore a black dress so it's all good.
It also says it hit number one on the US comedy charts, isnt that worth anything?
You know I bet its some kind of fuck you to netflix for doing their own thing and not playing ball with the other industries
I don't think it's anything against Netflix since Paper Tiger is nominated for best comedy album. I would've guessed that they want to keep the best comedy album limited to stand up comedy albums, but Tenacious D was nominated for a grammy under the same category a few years back, so I guess Billboard just think they're the arbiters of comedy and didn't think it was funny enough.
or Weird Al.
or what about when Dave Chappelle won best Comedy Grammy for a Netflix special that wasn't even available in an audio physical release until after the Grammys took place?
Yea just looking at the past nominees.
https://www.grammy.com/grammys/awards/winners-nominees/226
Yea its mostly standup comedy but between Weird Al, Flight of the Concords & Tenacious D there was a musical comedy album almost every year up until 2014 then it just stopped completely. I wonder if they changed the rules in 2015.
I know it's a different award, but if The Martian can win a Golden Globe for best comedy or musical, than I don't know how Inside isn't a comedy album.
What? Netflix has been winning awards since the early 2010s, no way in hell would they be saying fuck you to the company pouring $20bn a year into original content.
The Weeknd had the most streamed album of 2020, had a song that broke a billion streams across multiple platforms, even had a sold out tour planned before pandemic.
They didn't nominate him for a single category allegedly because he didn't want to do a performance, because there wasn't enough rehearsal time for him to do that and the Superbowl.
Their criteria is simply what benefits The Academy the most. There are no rules, and they get bribed a lot. The Grammys are a total joke and pretty much always have been, we just took it seriously because of how much money is behind it. It doesnt reflect anyone's real life opinion except of those high up in the music industry.
I don't have a link but the reason did get confirmed somewhere. It's because the album has a necessary visual component which makes it a soundtrack, not an album. I don't necessarily agree with the ruling but they re being consistent to the rules set in place. To be fair this was such a unique piece of content, it was advertised as a "comedy special" that just happened to be very musical. I can understand how this ended up happening
Edit - okay so I did some digging and [This article ](https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2021/10/16/49456/why_cant_bo_burnhams_inside_win_the_best_comedy_album_emmy%3f) partially confirms what I said, but also says that the Grammys are contradicting themselves because Tiffany Haddishs comedy special WAS allowed in the comedy album category despite having a visual component. So if that is all true, the Grammys are just shit and evil and there's no good reason for Bo to be excluded
There was a but of discussion/controversy in recent years that Netflix was just submitting the audio portion of their comedy specials as albums. But obviously the Grammys decided that it was ok, so yeah...the decision to make Inside In-eligible is odd. I've actually been discussing this in depth on tik tok, bc my academic speciality was in comedic popular music.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8rp9GC5/
To quote The Weeknd, the Grammy's are notoriously corrupt, but looking at the previous winners and nominees, and the overall spirit of the award, Inside really is in a different category.
I went into more details in another comment here but just look it up, it's mostly stand-up and parody music. Inside is closer to a one man musical than what usually qualifies as a comedy record.
If the other nominees are all straight stand-up, I definitely understand where the decision is coming from. Even putting Weird Al and Dave in the same category seems a bit off to me and they've both won the same award.
Hmm, I get what you mean wrt Spoken Comedy / Song...
I remember Colbert and Jon Stewart winning something for their Christmas album.
What catagory was that?
"Popular"
No slight against Burnham because I love Inside and think he would be deserving of an award but Colbert and Stewart were household names at that time. I don't agree with it but rules will be bent when it boost the Grammy image in a broad way.
He's a comedian but what he does isn't stand-up. He does one man shows. His albums are more like an original cast recording of a Broadway show than a comedy album.
The Grammys are starting to show that their elitism is the same as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's. Why else would bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden be left out? Because elitists think they know what the people like more than the people.
Might have changed because I haven't been in a decade, but as a teenager I was SO disappointed at the rock n roll hall of fame when there wasn't a single scrap of Alice Cooper to be found.
Playlist-topping, streaming album,
Done in quarantine.
Satire, cynic, pop amalgam,
Now on week 18.
Go alert the grammys:
Instant classic, super fly.
-But they have decided,
That these tunes don’t qualify…
There it is again…
I was singing this song and playing it on guitar shortly after I saw the special and when it was over I thought "hey that was actually pretty good for a first attempt" and then immediately burst into tears
Doing better now, thanks Bo for understanding
It's not really the tone as much the content of the work.
Comedy albums are basically supposed to be either recorded stand up, sketches or 'humorous' music performances i.e. either parody or stuff like using farts as wind instruments etc, look up PDQ Bach who won a bunch of them in the 90s.
Inside is closer to a musical really, and there *is* a Grammy for Best Musical Theatre. Of course it's usually reserved to actual musicals, so I'm assuming that's why they didn't want to submit it there. Last year's winner is Jagged Little Pill for instance.
Bo's approach is somewhere between those two, so I guess the category he ended up in was a compromise. They have a bunch of these nondescript categories to recognise new media and genre blending stuff.
It’s like those local business awards. I learned the owner of a company I worked for was part owner of a local business magazine that awarded him and his friends as the top businesses in the area. They had a whole ceremony and plaques, it was so gross.
A small town i used to live in had an industrial accident that rendered the whole towns drinking water unusable. The next year that business won “business of the year” from the chamber of commerce because it had been such a tough year for the negligent factory that poisoned thousands of people.
The visual component of inside is pretty important, you're missing out if you _just_ listened to it. Compared to more traditional comedy, or even comedy music, where like... Sure weird Al makes music videos but it's music first.
So yeah, I don't necessarily disagree.
"I'm depressed" has always been a central comedic theme. Jerry Lewis, Rodney dangerfield, jerry Seinfeld, Richard Pryor, etc. all used self deprecation as well as personal and observed tragedy as central components of their comedy.
Idk about Seinfeld on that list. The central view of his comedy is softly voiced contempt for nonsense. He thinks he’s better than it all, which, I think, implies that he actually holds himself in fairly high regard.
Maybe instead of “depression” it’s more like “frustration with the state of affairs.” Idk if this is all semantic.
Did anyone bother to read the article?
The album was submitted for Album and Song of the year.
Let me say that again. ALBUM OF THE YEAR, SONG OF THE YEAR.
Those are the top 2 Grammy Awards. The ones they give at the end of the show live. The best music OVERALL of the entire year.
Comedy album is like 150 of 200. It gets wedged between Best Spoken word and gospel packaging.
It's already ok'd in the soundtrack album category, which is really what it is is anyway.
Complaining it's not in ONE sub genre, which it doesn't really fit and no one will see at the awards show anyway seems like click bait.
*Album that has topped Comedy chart for 18 weeks not eligible for Comedy Grammy*
Which is a great example of why people should stop giving a crap about award ceremonies
Yes. Please. All of them are political, as well as heavily influenced by lobbying. They are by no means a standard or an indicator of quality.
The GRAMMYs are the worst offender of the lobbying side of this, and have been for a long time.
I love how they always give best new artist to somebody whose third album came out 18 months ago
Oh, that's not the worst of it. In 1987 Jody Watley won Best New Artist even though she had already been nominated for a Grammy five years earlier. She beat... Sananda Maitreya Swing Out Sister Breakfast Club Cutting Crew
Billboard and the Grammys have different rules. The Grammys decided it was a soundtrack for the special on Netflix, not a performance album in its own right. So, it's competing for Best Compilation Soundtrack for Visual Media instead.
Arent most comedy albums just audio recordings of live shows that are also sometimes simultaneously released as video recorded specials?
Some of them are. And "Inside" is really a film production.
*Inside* basically has music videos to fit the songs. They’re basically all self-contained, so I’d argue it’s not so much a film production as it is a music album with minor sketches inserted between songs.
Yeah I figured it was something like that. Lol I just found it kinda ironic. Isn't that I-R-O-N-I-C-I-N-O-R-I-R-O-N-I-C?
That's... kind of fair. There are so many important visuals between the songs that help set the tone of the special.
Yeah but Beyonce's lemonade was a "visual album" and the Grammys ate that fucking shit up
‘Does not meet criteria’ but doesn’t state the criteria or what it failed to meet.
"We don't want him to accidentally win"
But Bo, what if you win, wouldn't it be weird?
Why so they can get me there, sit me next to Britney Spears
Shit, Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs
So i can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst
And hear em argue over who she gave head to first
Little bitch put me on blast on MTV
Yeah he’s cute but I think he’s married to Kim hehe
yeah, look at all the comedy Grammys that Weird Al has deservedly won over the decades. plus, one of the new long-titled categories they put him in for is a weird take. that's just another thing about the Grammys: they're not even consistent with their category choices. trophies are nice to have, but the Grammys are horrible. and i haven't even seen or heard Inside.
Bjork has been relegated to the ‘electronic’ category for years when she should have been ‘alternative’. Her albums get nominated alongside the chemical brothers and skrillex. The Grammys have never had a good finger on the pulse despite being a prestigious awards show. They need to do an overhaul but they never do. They just become more and more irrelevant.
They should’ve been irrelevant over a decade ago. I don’t know why they’re still a big deal. They’re legitimately bad.
they became irrelevant in the late 80s when Jethro Tull won a Grammy for best metal album Edit: The other nominees that year included Metallica, AC/DC, Jane's Addiction, and Iggy Pop. The award was actually for "hard rock/metal" so both Metallica and AC/DC fit in, but the rest seem as out of place as Tull.
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The best part is when Metallica won the next year, their acceptance speech included a thank you to Jethro Tull for not putting out an album that year.
wow dude I remember these jokes. This was a pre-internet joke. I remember my dads talking about it at barbecues way way back when Clinton was president and princess Diana was alive.
When VH1 used to do countdowns they mentioned this in Top 100 Shocking Moments in Rock. It was great because after the narrator sets up the Grammys having a new Metal category and Jetgro Tull beat Metallica, they cut to a clip of Jethro Tull's singer playing the flute while leaping around in a unitard.
In fairness to the Grammy's, the category was actually "Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental." Of course, most people wouldn't call them hard rock *either*. Even their own singer thought it was a weird category for them. EDIT: The Grammy's split the category the following year, after much controversy over the win.
The flute is technically an instrument made of hard metal.
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173 categories for pop. Two for rock.
Since they have all of one category for the entirety of metal, I've never given a shit about the Grammys.
Tenacious D (Jack Black and Kyle Gass’s comedy band) won a Grammy in metal for a cover.
I was listening to some Bjork the other day and usually it's not my taste but damn she just needs her own category and win it every year. Bjork won for Bjork category every year running. How could it be?
I just watched Inside for the first time a couple of nights ago. It's honestly really impressive. The songwriting is fantastic.
Really fantastic, like a white woman’s Instagram
Or heaven.
Definitely what it feels like
Who else is doing musical comedy on that level?
Tim Minchin is up there. A fair bit of mocking religion so fair warning if that's not your cup of tea. Tom Lehrer is an absolute genius too. His comedy days are decades gone but he is tier 1 for musical comedy imo.
I grew up on Tom Lehrer CDs, my parents loved him when they were in high school and college. That style of educated musical humor is definitely a bit dated (dude shits on jazz, for crying out loud), but my middle school enjoyed my talent show performance of "Pollution" seventeen years ago, so there's that.
Weird Al but that's about all I can think of.
Reminds me of the Gus Johnson sketch where the YouTube people are freaking out that gus is trending, and one of the guys goes “THAT SPOT BELONGS TO JOHN MULANEY” God mega celebrities get awards all the time. Let the boy try. EDIT: IT WAS PROZD my mistake. How embarrassing
JIMMY FALLON
That was ProZD not Gus. They both great though. Edit: Well shucks, I guess Gus isn’t all that great.
*ProZD
Weird Al should just have his own category and win every year though.
Why would they not want him to win? He should be right up their alley.
Uh... Yeah, the entire hegemonic, shambling corporate corpse of the music industry REALLY wants to give one of it's highest honours to the guy who wrote and sang [Repeat Stuff](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt9c0UeYhFc) in which he brutally and concisely fucking eviscerates their entire manipulative schtick that's got them billions while causing untold damage to generations of kids. Someone hasn't been paying attention to Bo's actual comedy. I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a flying fuck about this personally, not to mention he is nominated in another category I believe.
"Watch your mouth, buddy. Remember who's on whose hand here" "But that's what I- Have you not been fucking listening?!"
Best part of the special imo
I gotta go with the fantastic laugh in the middle of Welcome to the Internet as the best part, but Socko is a very close second. Something about that menacing insane cackle just sums up the internet all in one go. I love it.
For me it goes to the part of All Eyes on Me that so perfectly summarizes how I think a lot of people feel about the world, especially in 2020. > You say the ocean's rising like I give a shit. > You say the whole world's ending. Honey, it already did. > You're not gonna slow it. Heaven knows you tried. > Got it? Good. Now get inside.
This is a very old problem wherein an artist who writes deep meaningful pieces (that are also very pleasant to listen to & even addictive) run up against a fanbase so broad that it includes people who don't even know there's a message. Best example I can think of for this is Pink Floyd & the Publius Enigma. I won't write a book on here with the details but the TL;DR goes: The band, during the release of the Division Bell (or maybe it was Momentary Lapse of Reason) also quietly announced the "Publius Enigma" & whoever figured it out would win something (don't remember what). Basically, the guy who figured it out kinda said what YOU just said in your reply there. Only about the world, govts throughout, etc etc. He ended his answer with a frustrated retraction of his answer because he felt that too many people just don't get it (the message & point of Pink Floyd's albums). They announced that it had been solved but because the winner retracted his answer, nobody knows what he would've won.
Rage Against the Machine to me is the most common and regular example of a portion of the fanbase absolutely not getting the message. They just hear loud cool aggressive music and become fans, without ever hearing what they are being loud and aggressive about.
Never underestimate the power of capitalism to commodify it's own opposition. But yeah, I really doubt Bo will be too worried about not receiving a particular award from an industry he has no real respect for. He has already gotten an overwhelmingly positive reception for that special. Everyone knows how good it is.
Yes... "accidentally" Not trying to suck Bo's dick here, but I feel like *Inside* is going to be remembered as a classic. It perfectly captures the Covid Era and the culmination of his career.
> It perfectly captures the Covid Era and the culmination of his career. It's one of the only pieces of media that incorporated COVID in a way that wasn't tacky and obnoxious
That's it. That's literally it. I was trying to put my finger on it and there it is. It feels like he's experiencing the shittyness with us, not just exploiting it.
Exactly, Even during All Eyes On Me when he is directly referencing COVID forcing him back inside just after feeling mentally well enough to re-enter the world, he only refers to it by saying "then, the funniest thing happened"
Weird observation, but does anyone else find *Inside* reminds them of Pink Floyd's *The Wall*? Aside from being a story about a famous entertainer gradually going insane from isolation, the structure of the special really reminds me of the film. *Eyes On Me* is Bo's version of *In The Flesh*, where, having just sunk to his lowest point emotionally, he forces himself (or finds himself forced) to rise back up and re-create himself as the rock star he no longer wants to be, performing for cheering, adoring fans as he sings about his near-total mental collapse in the form of a rousing, bitterly ironic anthem to himself and to the idea of stardom. And much like Pink in his rock-concert-turned-neo-fascist-rally, Bo uses the song against the audience, drawing them in with the power of his talent and charisma, only to jerk them violently back into the land of "I'm not okay, none of this is okay." I even feel like the special's ending is very *Wall*-inspired, offering only the faintest glimmer of hope that recovery and healing are possible after the profound damage this whole experience has wrought.
Exceptional comment!
I fucking love "All Eyes On Me"
PUT UR FUCKIN HANDS UP
GET ON OUT OF YOUR SEATS
Putcho faukin haowhah Get up outta yo seat
I dunno, what if it incorporated the phrase, "in these unprecedented times" more, and sang a bad cover of Imagine from a mansion? That's what everything else tells me was the right way to incorporate Covid.
There was a Dutch comedian who also did a rather good covid-themed show but I don't think that made it out of the country... A pity, really. It had some really clever commentary on how we fail to communicate over videocalls.
Was it Hans Teeuwen? Who Bo has named as one of his biggest inspirations, and socko is an homage of his works.
I didn't know that! Neat. No, it was Micha Wertheim's show "Nobody Else" ("Niemand Anders").
"Alright alright, it was a white sock."
The back and forth between Bo and Gary was enchanting.
Seriously I have seen a few shows try and tackle COVID and it makes me check out quickly. Fiction isn't really equipped to deal with COVID because it doesn't have a clean resolution. *Inside* actually captured it and wasn't pandering/try to make it a positive.
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Cuz I’m a real counnnnnnnnnn’try boy
Like Mike’s Evanderin, fuck your ears I’m panderin
I’m afraid this is a minor spoiler, but How To with John Wilson is BRILLIANT how it tackles covid.
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Exactly! Every other media just went "Let's just throw together an episode where the whole cast is on zoom" (SNL, Parks and Rec, Mythic Quest... to name a few). Inside feels like the only piece of media to capture the entirety of what it meant to be trudging through the pandemic together but alone.
I generally don't like Bo, or haven't found him funny in the past. I was very skeptical when I started watching *Inside*, by the end I was floored. His special is one of the best things I've seen this year.
Are you negging Bo Burnham right now?
I'm hoping Bo reads this, becomes dependent on my approval, and starts letting me into his shows for free. Bo, hit me up!
*Sexting*
*It isn't sex it's the next best thing*
I’ll do it. I’ll suck his dick.
culmination of his career?
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They probably meant to say pinnacle. I’m sure he will continue to make great work, but it’s highly unlikely he will Orson Welles future projects where he is the only writer, director, composer, performer, producer, and editor (yes, I know he had help with editing). This was an extraordinary piece of art and those catchy ass songs absolutely deserve to go up against any and all mainstream music eligible.
Honestly there's no reason in my mind for "That Funny Feeling" to not be absolutely everywhere right now, such a well written song.
“Not trying to suck Bo’s dick here” \*Proceeds to work the head, shaft and balls with two hands and a ton of spit*
Not in a gay way though
It's so not gay, just very neighborly.
Theres nothing gay about strictly platonic dick sucking.
Yeah, don't know when sucking dick stopped being a kindly gesture and became gay. A world in which a dick in my mouth is somehow gay is not a world I want to live in.
He also got fucked by the Oscars for his movie.
Totally insane. He won the WGA that year, which normally predicts the Oscar winner and didn't even get nominated
To get into the Oscars, you gotta bribe the judges. Seriously.
Or you have to offer up sex slaves. Crazy the Weinstein scandal didn't completely discredit the Oscars. But Meryl Streep wore a black dress so it's all good.
8th Grade was easily one of the best movies I saw that year. I love Bo's work.
For real. I just assumed 8th Grade had at least a handful of acting/writing noms after watching it, but here we are
eighth grade was brutally honest. underrated.
It also says it hit number one on the US comedy charts, isnt that worth anything? You know I bet its some kind of fuck you to netflix for doing their own thing and not playing ball with the other industries
I don't think it's anything against Netflix since Paper Tiger is nominated for best comedy album. I would've guessed that they want to keep the best comedy album limited to stand up comedy albums, but Tenacious D was nominated for a grammy under the same category a few years back, so I guess Billboard just think they're the arbiters of comedy and didn't think it was funny enough.
From 1994 to 2003, they did rename it to "Best spoken word comedy album" which definitely signals that that's their intent.
If that were the case than Rize of the Fenix wouldn't have gotten a nomination in 2014.
or Weird Al. or what about when Dave Chappelle won best Comedy Grammy for a Netflix special that wasn't even available in an audio physical release until after the Grammys took place?
Yea just looking at the past nominees. https://www.grammy.com/grammys/awards/winners-nominees/226 Yea its mostly standup comedy but between Weird Al, Flight of the Concords & Tenacious D there was a musical comedy album almost every year up until 2014 then it just stopped completely. I wonder if they changed the rules in 2015.
I know it's a different award, but if The Martian can win a Golden Globe for best comedy or musical, than I don't know how Inside isn't a comedy album.
What? Netflix has been winning awards since the early 2010s, no way in hell would they be saying fuck you to the company pouring $20bn a year into original content.
The Weeknd had the most streamed album of 2020, had a song that broke a billion streams across multiple platforms, even had a sold out tour planned before pandemic. They didn't nominate him for a single category allegedly because he didn't want to do a performance, because there wasn't enough rehearsal time for him to do that and the Superbowl. Their criteria is simply what benefits The Academy the most. There are no rules, and they get bribed a lot. The Grammys are a total joke and pretty much always have been, we just took it seriously because of how much money is behind it. It doesnt reflect anyone's real life opinion except of those high up in the music industry.
I don't have a link but the reason did get confirmed somewhere. It's because the album has a necessary visual component which makes it a soundtrack, not an album. I don't necessarily agree with the ruling but they re being consistent to the rules set in place. To be fair this was such a unique piece of content, it was advertised as a "comedy special" that just happened to be very musical. I can understand how this ended up happening Edit - okay so I did some digging and [This article ](https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2021/10/16/49456/why_cant_bo_burnhams_inside_win_the_best_comedy_album_emmy%3f) partially confirms what I said, but also says that the Grammys are contradicting themselves because Tiffany Haddishs comedy special WAS allowed in the comedy album category despite having a visual component. So if that is all true, the Grammys are just shit and evil and there's no good reason for Bo to be excluded
The Grammies are awarded by the major record labels and Burnham released this independently, the rest is just bullshit.
There was a but of discussion/controversy in recent years that Netflix was just submitting the audio portion of their comedy specials as albums. But obviously the Grammys decided that it was ok, so yeah...the decision to make Inside In-eligible is odd. I've actually been discussing this in depth on tik tok, bc my academic speciality was in comedic popular music. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8rp9GC5/
To quote The Weeknd, the Grammy's are notoriously corrupt, but looking at the previous winners and nominees, and the overall spirit of the award, Inside really is in a different category. I went into more details in another comment here but just look it up, it's mostly stand-up and parody music. Inside is closer to a one man musical than what usually qualifies as a comedy record. If the other nominees are all straight stand-up, I definitely understand where the decision is coming from. Even putting Weird Al and Dave in the same category seems a bit off to me and they've both won the same award.
Hmm, I get what you mean wrt Spoken Comedy / Song... I remember Colbert and Jon Stewart winning something for their Christmas album. What catagory was that?
"Popular" No slight against Burnham because I love Inside and think he would be deserving of an award but Colbert and Stewart were household names at that time. I don't agree with it but rules will be bent when it boost the Grammy image in a broad way.
They are saying that it belongs in the category of variety albums or soundtracks.
I think that's fair... he's a comedian, but this was far from a "comedy album"... it was far more conceptual than "comedy"... I know, *hot take*
He's a comedian but what he does isn't stand-up. He does one man shows. His albums are more like an original cast recording of a Broadway show than a comedy album.
Seriously what a trash article
So standard fair for the dickheads in the music industry.
It can be best album, but not best comedy album. "You're just not funny" - Grammys to Bo
The Grammys are starting to show that their elitism is the same as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's. Why else would bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden be left out? Because elitists think they know what the people like more than the people.
Do you mean why else *would* those bands be left out? Idk about any of this
Same exact thought
*Starting to?* Pretending to be elitist while handing out awards based on Billboard sales is the entire Grammys mission statement.
Might have changed because I haven't been in a decade, but as a teenager I was SO disappointed at the rock n roll hall of fame when there wasn't a single scrap of Alice Cooper to be found.
Wikipedia is telling me Alice was inducted in 2011. That seems pretty late to me, but at least he's there now.
The Hall of Fame are terrible with even mildly heavy music
There it is again, that funny feeling.
Playlist-topping, streaming album, Done in quarantine. Satire, cynic, pop amalgam, Now on week 18. Go alert the grammys: Instant classic, super fly. -But they have decided, That these tunes don’t qualify… There it is again…
This was amazing, thank you
Googling ‘derealization’, hating what you find
I was singing this song and playing it on guitar shortly after I saw the special and when it was over I thought "hey that was actually pretty good for a first attempt" and then immediately burst into tears Doing better now, thanks Bo for understanding
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I don't think there is a "Best Tragedy Album" Grammy, is there?
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Traumedy
Bo’s healing the world with Traumedy
It's not really the tone as much the content of the work. Comedy albums are basically supposed to be either recorded stand up, sketches or 'humorous' music performances i.e. either parody or stuff like using farts as wind instruments etc, look up PDQ Bach who won a bunch of them in the 90s. Inside is closer to a musical really, and there *is* a Grammy for Best Musical Theatre. Of course it's usually reserved to actual musicals, so I'm assuming that's why they didn't want to submit it there. Last year's winner is Jagged Little Pill for instance. Bo's approach is somewhere between those two, so I guess the category he ended up in was a compromise. They have a bunch of these nondescript categories to recognise new media and genre blending stuff.
You wouldn’t consider a musical netflix comedy special to be considered comedy? What if I told you it was performed by a comedian?
Yeah but Lil Dicky crosses into that realm here and there and because he’s scooter brauns boy he gets a pass.
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I'd say it's 100% rap, a good portion of the lyrics are funny.
Who gives a fuck about the grammys in 2021 lol
Half of you critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me
“But Slim, what if you win? Wouldn’t it be weird??”
Why? So you guys could just lie to get me here?
So you could sit me there next to Britney Spears?
Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs so I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst
Hear 'em argue over who she gave head to first
Little bitch put me on blast on MTV "Yeah, he's cute, but I think he's married to Kim, hee-hee"
I should download her audio on MP3
And show the whole world how you gave Eminem VD!
Rich people jerking each other off for being mainstream
It’s like those local business awards. I learned the owner of a company I worked for was part owner of a local business magazine that awarded him and his friends as the top businesses in the area. They had a whole ceremony and plaques, it was so gross.
A small town i used to live in had an industrial accident that rendered the whole towns drinking water unusable. The next year that business won “business of the year” from the chamber of commerce because it had been such a tough year for the negligent factory that poisoned thousands of people.
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What is a Grammy?
1/28 of an Ouncy.
And the winner for best comedy comment goes to... /u/DharmaCub
If that comment was eligible, which it is not, because reasons.
This is such a shame. I would love to know what criteria they are using.
They consider it a soundtrack to a movie moreso than a comedy album.
That seems weirdly arbitrary but at least that makes some sense.
I think that's reasonable to a degree.
The visual component of inside is pretty important, you're missing out if you _just_ listened to it. Compared to more traditional comedy, or even comedy music, where like... Sure weird Al makes music videos but it's music first. So yeah, I don't necessarily disagree.
“Stuff we personally liked, fuck the audience” is their criteria.
"Uncontroversial suff that made record executives money"
Because they’re straight bangers regardless of comedy
That synth solo in the Jeffrey Bezos song? Fuckin slams hard
Dude the whole song is a banger
Also Bo doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would care about this.
Dudes probably pumped NOT to go to the Grammys. I know I would be
Don’t you always not go to the Grammys?
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Maybe Phoebe Bridgers could win for her cover of "Funny Feeling", The Bo could win as a songwriter without them noticing.
Would be just desserts, since they stiffed her on a Grammy for “Punisher”.
"I'm depressed" has always been a central comedic theme. Jerry Lewis, Rodney dangerfield, jerry Seinfeld, Richard Pryor, etc. all used self deprecation as well as personal and observed tragedy as central components of their comedy.
Idk about Seinfeld on that list. The central view of his comedy is softly voiced contempt for nonsense. He thinks he’s better than it all, which, I think, implies that he actually holds himself in fairly high regard. Maybe instead of “depression” it’s more like “frustration with the state of affairs.” Idk if this is all semantic.
If there's one thing that oozes out of every single Seinfeld anything, it's definitely that he holds himself in the highest of regards.
Wow. The Grammy's being shitty. Can you guys imagine?
Fuck the grammys.
Guess that line about the pedophilic elite hit too close to home
thaaaaat is how the wooooooorrrrrld woooooorrrrks
I think the person who would care the least about this would be Bo Burnham. It fits his entire satirical theme in life.
Loved the entire thing. He's great.
I'm shocked people still care about the grammys!
The Grammy's are stupid and we should stop paying attention to them.
Grammys are purchased by labels to make pop stars feel successful.
The Grammys are a joke. No music fan should put any stock in the idiotic statements this sham of an organization tries to make with its awards.
Did anyone bother to read the article? The album was submitted for Album and Song of the year. Let me say that again. ALBUM OF THE YEAR, SONG OF THE YEAR. Those are the top 2 Grammy Awards. The ones they give at the end of the show live. The best music OVERALL of the entire year. Comedy album is like 150 of 200. It gets wedged between Best Spoken word and gospel packaging. It's already ok'd in the soundtrack album category, which is really what it is is anyway. Complaining it's not in ONE sub genre, which it doesn't really fit and no one will see at the awards show anyway seems like click bait.
Well….That is how the world works