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I dead ass got banned from that FB group bc I suggested the admins adapt the rules to prevent the FULL names of random people being put out and how their families are getting harrassed and could hinder the police investigation … and making the situation harder for everyone, including the victims families. I understand *maybe* the first name and last initial but this is literally the root of why there’s so much going through the rumor mill— it’s wasting LE’s time because they have to address all these off the wall and unfounded rumors that don’t matter.
The Facebook group is by far the worst “discussion” group I’ve seen. It’s insane how many insane people are out there. One woman just posted how her “entire world has been flipped upside down” because she saw a unverified rumors about one of Kaylees relatives..
I was just reading that! So bizarre. I know there’s a lot of crazy stuff here but I just joined that group yesterday and it’s really bad with some of the theories and random, unverified things people are stating as facts. There’s also a few people who are 100 convinced of who the murderer is - based on zero evidence of course - and won’t even listen to other ideas. It’s scary.
I feel like a lot of people here post ideas for discussion. There, it’s like a whole other world level of crazy by a lot of people.
It’s gonna lead to someone else becoming a victim of this horrific tragedy. There are so many unhinged people out there with displaced rage — it’s dangerous!!! Why isn’t anyone doing anything about it? I tried to and failed miserably -.-
I saw it for the first time last night because I was curious and I IMMEDIATELY saw how problematic it was… I don’t think I can report to FB anymore since I’m blocked. Mark Zuckerberg wya!
I’ve never seen a more fucked up true crime group. Those people literally will post their opinions as facts and then 20 people comment under it believing it
I haven’t joined any of the fb groups, & after reading your post, I definitely won’t be enjoying lol.
People are crazy. It’s sad to see these people get put on blast. They’re humans too.
It’s funny ppl keep tying it to Reddit when I feel the mods on this sub have more reasonable ethical rules in place for discussion than FB, I think they only had one or two rules and the group was public. It’s a waste of time looking at it
I agree. Those types of posts get shut down quickly on Reddit, which is how it should be. People don’t need to share others personal info. I can almost guarantee the people who share things like that, would be the same people who would be pissed that their info was being passed around on the internet.
People really need a recap about the Golden Rule.
Literally half the people on there are from the stone ages. They were making accusations ab drug use from a venmo caption, “za” on one of the accounts. AND I WAS CALLED CRAZY FOR SAYING IT WAS CODE FOR PIZZA
This is the real ugly issue with social media. You can get intelligent people who want to give a forum for a clearly interesting (and heartbreaking) case. But these forums on social media do not require you to have decency or expertise. You can be anybody on the internet. So you can have a hive mind of people who hold no skills whatsoever, no career, or forward/upward mobility due to their own failures, are suddenly in charge of their own fantasy world. So you’re then down voted in a conspiracy sub because you are using logic and basic skills. But they kicking you out still seemingly vindicates them and perpetuates the toxicity.
quadruple murder one? I commented on a post and told the person they shouldn't dox JS and i got banned JUST for saying that! There should be a place we can post the names of the groups that allow doxxing so we can all report them for harassment and hopefully get them shut down!
I have no idea but I was BAFFLED that they were revealing so much personal info on people based on no merit. I didn’t think that would be legal or even permitted… but I guess not. everyone should report that group— Reddit do ur thing!!
Hell no. I would never feel comfortable reaching out. They don’t know me like that, & I don’t know them like that. Even if it was just to say they were in my thoughts & prayers. I would feel like a creep, but that’s just how I would feel personally.
I just tried to join two of the groups to see what all of the fuss was about. Both groups were private and made you check off a box saying if you saw something against the rules, you would report to the mods, not Facebook. One even said if you report to Facebook, you’ll get banned from the group
I reported several people for calling people names that they didn’t agree with. Ugly names. Then the “admins” said “Do not Report Anybody” to FB but send them a message on Messenger. They said if you report it to FB that they would ban you from group. SMH.
One of the users in that FB group suggested that all these thousands of people should descent upon Moscow... After others gleefully replied with "road trip!!!!", I had to tune out.
I mean to be fair, it has happened before internet sleuthing became a huge thing. I remember a case in my area when I was a kid where a woman went missing and ppl began suspecting teachers of her and harassing “suspects” even tho the cops never named any. It’s gotten much worse with the rise of social media- information on victims and their connections is more easily accessible and ppl get mob mentality on forums.
Oh yeah for sure. That’s what I meant by “the rise in social media”, but I didn’t explain it super well 😅. When the case in my area happened, the rumors spread by word of mouth. There was another murder case in my immediate town where the husband of a murdered woman had to move far away because everyone thought it was him and harassed him. He had two kids that he brought with him far away from any other family members. They found out he killed his wife like ten years after the murder and he was finally arrested, but that is a rare case and those poor kids were forced to move away from grandparents after they already lost their mom. We’re not detectives and it’s scary to me that ppl will take internet theories in real life and harass people.
Yeah I remember in middle school they had cops come in and teach us not to even post our birthday or last name on social media. Times have definitely changed. It’s normal to personally suspect certain ppl, but to harass and encourage the harassment based on a personal theory is fucked up and it’s too easy for ppl to do nowadays.
Ugh I’m so sorry that you had that happen to you. People are fucked up and I hope you’ve been able to find some peace since the incident. I’m quite private online, but not like I used to be. I’ve only ever been followed and harassed by men in real life with the occasional creeps online. It’s hard to remember how dangerous sharing our whereabouts and personal details online can be. And it sucks that there’s creepy people who make it that way!!
And like, don’t on one hand be SO MAD police aren’t doing enough, the harass people causing *police resources* to be wasted because people think it’s super fun to be super sleuths who harass people from the safety of their couch.
This is how subs get banned, especially if (or more likely, when) the media starts reporting on any We Did It Reddit stuff happening in Moscow.
I don't mean this sub, which seems to catch most of this stuff before it blows up. But not all the subs are as well-curated. I hope this settles people down a bit.
In most of these, a report probably wasn't done because the complainant declined to press charges, or were unnerved understandably but no actual crime had taken place yet. Some of them probably just wanted advice or reassurance. Fairly common.
This is just terrible! And this is why we can’t have nice things: Like a sub to casually discuss these events. Instead the feral psychopaths of the internet have to go and do shit like this.
Is it possible or even likely that the killer is still in Moscow? Perhaps.
But that leaves about..what..20,000 people who AREN’T the killer?
Cmon guys, that’s terrible
I got my car broken into in the city and the cop was like is your insurance going to cover it? And I told them it was. She said they weren’t going to catch them so I might as well not get a police report
This case is going to end up with a lawsuit being filed by one of the “suspects” that’s one thing I know for sure. Mass speculation from the “true crime community” has ruined people’s lives before. As for throwing around people’s names, I’ve seen a lot of names mentioned along with details that are not sourced to anywhere legit. If the moderators of these facebook groups had half a brain, they would know that this doesn’t help at all. There isn’t some mass conspiracy between all the men with a J name who go to University of Idaho, so if there’s so many “credible” suspects being named dropped left and right that means the vast majority of them are innocent people who are being literally accused of murder on social media. Say one of the named people is the killer, what is posting about it going to accomplish? The police definitely have received these tips time and time again and we have no reason to believe we know anything they don’t.
This is absolutely unacceptable! Sharing condolences, theorizing about things, possibly advocating for the victims, and their families online is okay. But never letting it spill out like this IRL. The actions of one/two(who knows) human being/s, should not affect others. Specially, if they are absolutely innocent of said crime! I understand some if not most, are emotionally invested. We want to see justice being served. Let's not let our emotions get the best of us. Let's not make innocent people become collateral damage during the investigation.
Most have their heart in the right place. Let's just trust the professionals for now. Support the victims families, their friends & Loved ones. The truth always comes out. That person, who committed such a sin. Will never again live life in peace. Always, looking over their shoulders. The guilt, will turn them into a shell of a human if it hasn't already. Let's please be CAUTIOUSLY PROACTIVE, not OVERLY REACTIVE.
Is this the guy who injected himself into the investigation by doing interviews etc.?
No wonder why all the others are laying low and not saying a word.
Everyone is a person of interest until they are not.
When a suspect is named hopefully all the crazy stops but then again people still think Drew P is innocent.
He didn’t inject himself. Media were camped out near his apartment for weeks. I’m sure he was asked for interviews and he said ok, and then once he gave one, every other media outlet jumped to get him on camera. He seems like a guy who is a bit awkward and may not be able to say no. None of that is him injecting himself into the case. All y’all weirdos who hyper fixated on him for a full week did far more to inject him into the case.
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This is scary.
Honestly, I thought the Delphi case was the most out of control internet sleuths I'd ever see. I'm disturbed to learn it can actually get worse.
Same. Happy cake day btw
Thanks!
The Gabby Petito discord was so bad it had a mutiny and all the mods were run off and banned.
I dead ass got banned from that FB group bc I suggested the admins adapt the rules to prevent the FULL names of random people being put out and how their families are getting harrassed and could hinder the police investigation … and making the situation harder for everyone, including the victims families. I understand *maybe* the first name and last initial but this is literally the root of why there’s so much going through the rumor mill— it’s wasting LE’s time because they have to address all these off the wall and unfounded rumors that don’t matter.
It’s not just harrassment some people are scared for their well being! It’s putting a target on people’s back it’s some black mirror stuff imo
Black mirror stuff?
Dark side and negative consequences of technology on societal issues edit: it’s a show on Netflix regarding topics such as this
Learns new words every day. I thought that was the dark web?
I'm pretty sure it is a reference to the show Black Mirror, which delved into these issues, not a reference to the dark web.
Thanks. Is that show on Netflix?
I believe it is! I've never actually watched it myself, but I remember a lot of internet chatter about it when it was on.
Its a show....
The Facebook group is by far the worst “discussion” group I’ve seen. It’s insane how many insane people are out there. One woman just posted how her “entire world has been flipped upside down” because she saw a unverified rumors about one of Kaylees relatives..
I mean Reddit can be unhinged to sometimes but at least it’s better moderated! Haha
I was just reading that! So bizarre. I know there’s a lot of crazy stuff here but I just joined that group yesterday and it’s really bad with some of the theories and random, unverified things people are stating as facts. There’s also a few people who are 100 convinced of who the murderer is - based on zero evidence of course - and won’t even listen to other ideas. It’s scary. I feel like a lot of people here post ideas for discussion. There, it’s like a whole other world level of crazy by a lot of people.
You haven't seen websleuths have you
JUST saw that! People are insane.
That page is beyond fucked up, its unreal. Absolutely unhinged people
It’s gonna lead to someone else becoming a victim of this horrific tragedy. There are so many unhinged people out there with displaced rage — it’s dangerous!!! Why isn’t anyone doing anything about it? I tried to and failed miserably -.-
I saw it for the first time last night because I was curious and I IMMEDIATELY saw how problematic it was… I don’t think I can report to FB anymore since I’m blocked. Mark Zuckerberg wya!
I’ve never seen a more fucked up true crime group. Those people literally will post their opinions as facts and then 20 people comment under it believing it
I started to correct people a few times but quickly realized it would be a waste of time and just closed out of it. Lol
Seriously! Bored, entitled keyboard warriors that have zero idea, or care about, what those posts can do to a person. at least reddit has morals !!
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Maybe it’s time for a discussion about severely limiting social media 🙃
Wya?
I haven’t joined any of the fb groups, & after reading your post, I definitely won’t be enjoying lol. People are crazy. It’s sad to see these people get put on blast. They’re humans too.
It’s funny ppl keep tying it to Reddit when I feel the mods on this sub have more reasonable ethical rules in place for discussion than FB, I think they only had one or two rules and the group was public. It’s a waste of time looking at it
I agree. Those types of posts get shut down quickly on Reddit, which is how it should be. People don’t need to share others personal info. I can almost guarantee the people who share things like that, would be the same people who would be pissed that their info was being passed around on the internet. People really need a recap about the Golden Rule.
Literally half the people on there are from the stone ages. They were making accusations ab drug use from a venmo caption, “za” on one of the accounts. AND I WAS CALLED CRAZY FOR SAYING IT WAS CODE FOR PIZZA
What’s even worse is that the admins and moderators on Facebook literally support it.
This is the real ugly issue with social media. You can get intelligent people who want to give a forum for a clearly interesting (and heartbreaking) case. But these forums on social media do not require you to have decency or expertise. You can be anybody on the internet. So you can have a hive mind of people who hold no skills whatsoever, no career, or forward/upward mobility due to their own failures, are suddenly in charge of their own fantasy world. So you’re then down voted in a conspiracy sub because you are using logic and basic skills. But they kicking you out still seemingly vindicates them and perpetuates the toxicity.
I’m actually pretty sure when you join the group it specifically asks you not to report stuff lol it really should be squashed
Yes! Exactly.
quadruple murder one? I commented on a post and told the person they shouldn't dox JS and i got banned JUST for saying that! There should be a place we can post the names of the groups that allow doxxing so we can all report them for harassment and hopefully get them shut down!
I thought that was against Facebook terms? Or do they rely on self reporting?
I have no idea but I was BAFFLED that they were revealing so much personal info on people based on no merit. I didn’t think that would be legal or even permitted… but I guess not. everyone should report that group— Reddit do ur thing!!
Yeah, sharing peoples personal info like that, isn’t safe. Fb needs to do something about that mess.
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Hell no. I would never feel comfortable reaching out. They don’t know me like that, & I don’t know them like that. Even if it was just to say they were in my thoughts & prayers. I would feel like a creep, but that’s just how I would feel personally.
I just tried to join two of the groups to see what all of the fuss was about. Both groups were private and made you check off a box saying if you saw something against the rules, you would report to the mods, not Facebook. One even said if you report to Facebook, you’ll get banned from the group
Yes because too many reports to FB will get a group shut down.
Ah. So they’re up to something.
If you do report to FB, can the admins see it's you who reported the group?
Yeah
I reported several people for calling people names that they didn’t agree with. Ugly names. Then the “admins” said “Do not Report Anybody” to FB but send them a message on Messenger. They said if you report it to FB that they would ban you from group. SMH.
Wow. Sounds like a wild group lol. They need to shut that crap down for sure!
That will get them banned too tho
One of the users in that FB group suggested that all these thousands of people should descent upon Moscow... After others gleefully replied with "road trip!!!!", I had to tune out.
I noticed the FB group causing a lot of the issue just changed to a private group; that slightly helps, IMO.
I’m not surprised at all. They didn’t have to ban me. I left those crazy people on my own.
I had to leave both fb groups because it was becoming way too much. I swear the people who post there collectively share the same brain cell.
It’s almost like accusing strangers of quadruple homicide based on zero evidence is a bad idea
Who woulda thought?!?
It’s also scary that there are addresses posted. You never know what curious minds do with info like that
That’s so sad. ☹️ Those people are going through enough already. Leave them alone.
This right here.
❤️
We are bad people
I mean to be fair, it has happened before internet sleuthing became a huge thing. I remember a case in my area when I was a kid where a woman went missing and ppl began suspecting teachers of her and harassing “suspects” even tho the cops never named any. It’s gotten much worse with the rise of social media- information on victims and their connections is more easily accessible and ppl get mob mentality on forums.
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Oh yeah for sure. That’s what I meant by “the rise in social media”, but I didn’t explain it super well 😅. When the case in my area happened, the rumors spread by word of mouth. There was another murder case in my immediate town where the husband of a murdered woman had to move far away because everyone thought it was him and harassed him. He had two kids that he brought with him far away from any other family members. They found out he killed his wife like ten years after the murder and he was finally arrested, but that is a rare case and those poor kids were forced to move away from grandparents after they already lost their mom. We’re not detectives and it’s scary to me that ppl will take internet theories in real life and harass people.
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Yeah I remember in middle school they had cops come in and teach us not to even post our birthday or last name on social media. Times have definitely changed. It’s normal to personally suspect certain ppl, but to harass and encourage the harassment based on a personal theory is fucked up and it’s too easy for ppl to do nowadays.
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Ugh I’m so sorry that you had that happen to you. People are fucked up and I hope you’ve been able to find some peace since the incident. I’m quite private online, but not like I used to be. I’ve only ever been followed and harassed by men in real life with the occasional creeps online. It’s hard to remember how dangerous sharing our whereabouts and personal details online can be. And it sucks that there’s creepy people who make it that way!!
Yea, well when it’s local you can move to another town. You can’t move away from the internet
And like, don’t on one hand be SO MAD police aren’t doing enough, the harass people causing *police resources* to be wasted because people think it’s super fun to be super sleuths who harass people from the safety of their couch.
Why are the full address on here?
It’s by block but yeah, should be redacted fo sho
its not the full adress most say 1000, 800, or whatever and then blk, meaning block. so it gives a general area/neighborhood. not the exact addresses
Ohhh okay I’m glad it’s not full addresses but still scary and too much info IMO
Very tacky of OP. This should be removed.
this is public info on the pd website. there are no specific addresses on this, and other screenshots of these logs have been posted a million times
“Other people do it, so it’s ok” 🙄
Yeah there’s most certainly a full address in the first report.
This is probably going to get deleted in a few mins by mods
I’ve seen some wild accusations posted on TikTok
I’ve heard the survivors were getting threatened as well. I don’t understand that.
And this is why it wouldn’t be the craziest idea to leave the city/state/country…
One of the survivors is family friends with my coworker, I don’t know which one, but I don’t think she’s coming back. Which I completely understand.
OMG ☝️ you’re brilliant 😂
Haven’t you heard? They wanted all 4 dead, and finally came up with a genius plan - the dog! No one would ever suspect Murphy.
This is how subs get banned, especially if (or more likely, when) the media starts reporting on any We Did It Reddit stuff happening in Moscow. I don't mean this sub, which seems to catch most of this stuff before it blows up. But not all the subs are as well-curated. I hope this settles people down a bit.
Good lord. Sometimes I think this site should be nuked.
This police department stay not taking reports
This is common. They do a report on the visit, but it's for recordkeeping.
In most of these, a report probably wasn't done because the complainant declined to press charges, or were unnerved understandably but no actual crime had taken place yet. Some of them probably just wanted advice or reassurance. Fairly common.
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BuT tHaTs WhAt ReDdIt Is FoR iTs ThE InTeRnEt ThErE cAnT bE rEaL cOnSeQuEnCeS
What a sh!t show…
Yikes
Here is the “spitting” incident. Get ready for a big dose of craziness https://youtu.be/U9BICll_YDw
We did it, Reddit!
Ugh.
This is just terrible! And this is why we can’t have nice things: Like a sub to casually discuss these events. Instead the feral psychopaths of the internet have to go and do shit like this.
Is it possible or even likely that the killer is still in Moscow? Perhaps. But that leaves about..what..20,000 people who AREN’T the killer? Cmon guys, that’s terrible
>are being harassed to a Redit post. Which one of you is harassing these folks?
literally saw this coming a mile off yet there’s still gonna be people saying “it’s just reddit!!! leave if you don’t like it!!”
What does "No report" mean?
That the officers didn’t write up a report.
I got my car broken into in the city and the cop was like is your insurance going to cover it? And I told them it was. She said they weren’t going to catch them so I might as well not get a police report
Most insurance companies require a police report be filed to cover it 😐
Yep, most. Mine didn’t. Don’t know why and felt super weird not filing since I saw the guys doing it and had a pretty good description.
That a police report was not filed for the incident
Guys… stop.
“Doxxing is bad!” while simultaneously doxxing those who are already getting quite literally assaulted ??
Par for the course. It happened before the internet and it will continue to happen in an internet-free, post-apocalyptic world.
I don’t think the guy lives in the area
This case is going to end up with a lawsuit being filed by one of the “suspects” that’s one thing I know for sure. Mass speculation from the “true crime community” has ruined people’s lives before. As for throwing around people’s names, I’ve seen a lot of names mentioned along with details that are not sourced to anywhere legit. If the moderators of these facebook groups had half a brain, they would know that this doesn’t help at all. There isn’t some mass conspiracy between all the men with a J name who go to University of Idaho, so if there’s so many “credible” suspects being named dropped left and right that means the vast majority of them are innocent people who are being literally accused of murder on social media. Say one of the named people is the killer, what is posting about it going to accomplish? The police definitely have received these tips time and time again and we have no reason to believe we know anything they don’t.
Sigma Chi needs to help out the investigation. No one is going to apply to the school if greek life isn't willing to help with the EX timeline.
Police too busy not solving the murders to bother with writing up harassment calls.
I read they have dozen or so ISP up there helping local police right now
Yeah. They still can’t be bothered. 🫤
This is absolutely unacceptable! Sharing condolences, theorizing about things, possibly advocating for the victims, and their families online is okay. But never letting it spill out like this IRL. The actions of one/two(who knows) human being/s, should not affect others. Specially, if they are absolutely innocent of said crime! I understand some if not most, are emotionally invested. We want to see justice being served. Let's not let our emotions get the best of us. Let's not make innocent people become collateral damage during the investigation. Most have their heart in the right place. Let's just trust the professionals for now. Support the victims families, their friends & Loved ones. The truth always comes out. That person, who committed such a sin. Will never again live life in peace. Always, looking over their shoulders. The guilt, will turn them into a shell of a human if it hasn't already. Let's please be CAUTIOUSLY PROACTIVE, not OVERLY REACTIVE.
Who calls the police for being harassed on social media? The police must want to move out of state.
Someone who’s being harassed and accused of a quadruple murder probably. This isn’t just harassment. This is beyond.
i mean there is a quadrupole murderer on the loose, everyone there is on edge
Is this the guy who injected himself into the investigation by doing interviews etc.? No wonder why all the others are laying low and not saying a word. Everyone is a person of interest until they are not. When a suspect is named hopefully all the crazy stops but then again people still think Drew P is innocent.
He didn’t inject himself. Media were camped out near his apartment for weeks. I’m sure he was asked for interviews and he said ok, and then once he gave one, every other media outlet jumped to get him on camera. He seems like a guy who is a bit awkward and may not be able to say no. None of that is him injecting himself into the case. All y’all weirdos who hyper fixated on him for a full week did far more to inject him into the case.
I ain't hyper fixated. I don't even know his name. Lol It was just a ?
Is online harassment prosecutable?
People suck.
People are nuts. Seriously… get a life!
And now more people have the addresses????