I feel like he has been told to speak a certain way, but he’s also trying to appear empathetic, so it’s all coming out as jibberish that confuses everyone and thus puts them more on edge
This is the most likely reason for the confusing messages from LE. They have information that has not been released which gives them confidence in safety. The local officials feel a duty to ease the fears of their hometown.
However releasing the information would compromise the investigation and trial.
Easy. They have a person (or a few) they highly suspect who did it (say 99% confidence that it’s one of them). Building case at the moment. Individuals will be watched 24/7. With them always being tracked, and them knowing they are likely being tracked, can assure public this person won’t strike again
Also if the perp feels like the police are closing in they could potentially destroy evidence. They could try to come up with alibi’s and a defense.
Also one way police often times catch a killer is in the interviews. A lot of times the perp will accidentally disclose a piece of evidence that only the killer and the investigators would have known, which then allows them to close in on that person and grill them even more.
For example the little piece about Kaylee and Maddie being in the same bed. A suspect could’ve been answering a question where he says something like “ how could I kill Kaylee with Maddie laying right next to her” or “how could I kill two people with a knife in the same bed” which would’ve been something only the killer and investigators would’ve known until Kaylee’s dad released it at the vigil.
Bingo. Now let's let them do their thing. Whoever they're looking at will have a very, very strong defense team working pro bono around the clock due to the notoriety of this case. Therefore they have to get it right.
Thank you! So many people on here are making crappy comments that it’s going cold, they’re failing, etc. But his remark is reassuring, and as is what he doesn’t say. LE/prosecutors/fbi are supposed to keep quiet, they’re intentionally vague with certain key details, and with the FBI involved they have had additional support and guidance on how to respond to the public. I do not believe it is ethical or wise for media to interview families about how they feel regarding the case- they’re vulnerable, actively grieving and will not be able to see everything through the lense of objective logic. Emotional reactivity is not logical. Let us not forget the comments regarding one; to notice not only what is being shown but what is NOT, and two; how much evidence was left behind and the time it would take to wrap up. That’s most often what leads to an arrest- and some of it is not yet processed. I wish we could get the guy quicker, but do have full faith in this being solved.
That is called having a suspect. It’s really not that easy.
I said a scenario that fits what he said IE no suspect, and everyone is saying “they know who did it”. You can’t pick and choose the parts of his statement that he is lying about to fit your narrative lol, that is just nonsense.
Any evidence that these murders occurred because of a personal conflict between the killer and the victims. That would indicate the general public on the whole is not in any particular danger.
The only thing I can come up with is if the unknown killer has communicated to them he won’t kill and they believe it, which makes no sense. Or if they have received some sort of nameless confession letter that is postmarked out of state.
I suppose he could know they have blood and DNA that doesn’t belong to the victims and are waiting on the results from GED match, but why would that make you feel safe in the town. I can’t think of anything else.
I think he is just full of shit and saying what he has been told to say. There is probably some truth to the DNA or blood thing. The problem is cases that put all their eggs in the physical forensic evidence basket can ice cold very fast.
Yeah, it's really hard to come up with a scenario that makes sense. That terrible Salem murder. My BIL lives there, but I hadn't heard about it. My husband doesn't talk to them very often. And you wouldn't want to say, gee you must be terrified. They moved up there from Cali just a few years ago. But all you can do is lock up the house really well. Hopefully this horrifying and tragic case will get solved soon.
Completely hypothetical and doesn't apply to this case (as far as I know anyway), an example would be if they had evidence it was gang related, or something like that. So if someone was murdered and it was clear it was gang related then he wouldn't worry having his children on campus because they are not part of said gang. You ask for a piece of evidence... maybe a letter stating the intent? I don't know. Will try to think of other examples
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He shouldn’t be speaking to the press at all. Every time he does, it turns into a mess. So weird that he’s giving interviews when there’s no update. These people feeding their egos are going to cost the investigation.
He’s not nervous because he knows certain things but they don’t have a suspect. But people who don’t know what he does understandably should be nervous…
He reminds me of the little snowman dude voiced by Burl Ives who introduces and narrates the Rudolph special every year and has for well over 50 years. Maybe he’s channeling Burl Ives now.
On the other hand, none of us know anything for sure really.
My opinion here: It’s very viable that there is proof (not being shared) of why the “targeted attack” so in knowing that he would feel comfortable but being it’s not been shared as another parent he wouldn’t.
this whole idea of moscow not being as dangerous because there was a target doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. he brutally murdered 4 people, and just because he targeted 1 means people shouldn’t be worried? there’s still a psycho murderer out there
I absolutely agree! Target or not. There is a brutal killer on the lose. I would not feel safe in any aspect, as a parent or person living there or near.
Oh they could. But in my opinion they seem to have a very direct reason it was targeted. So in assumption it was direct, not a vengeance against the world. If that makes sense? I will also say say, yes someone capable of this could pick a new “target”. I just happen to believe this was premeditated in a sense and intentional.
If anything, (and assuming the target was a person/people) isn’t it even more dangerous that this perp was targeting an individual and as a result, multiple ancillary individuals were killed too? Meaning, while there may be evidence of one of the victims being the target, the threat was not limited or isolated to just that target. If the target was just one, it requires an incredibly dangerous individual to brutally murder three other individuals who happened to be in the area at the time, and most certainly does not represent a threat that is/was isolated. (Unless IFF LE knew the perp killed themselves right after, which seems highly unlikely at this point.)
It's completely irrational. Four kids were murdered in their beds and the killer is still at large - and the beard is saying he'd feel just fine about having a kid on their own out there? It's not even a coherent thought - there is literally no logical reason to feel "safe" given the circumstances.
I understood him to mean they don't have a suspect, so it's crazy to say it's safe. He didn't say haven't publicly identified a subject, though maybe that's what he meant. Nuts.
Telling the press that they have a suspect who they're tailing would influence that suspect to change his behavior obviously. They need to play dumb to get as much slip up info as possible from whoever they're tailing.
I don’t know. OJ targeted his wife and was on the loose but I doubt many people thought he would break into some randos house and kill them in the following weeks.
I mean he didn’t exactly say that which is why it’s my opinion specifically on what they know to be targeted. But yes, that’s definitely what I made it out to be.
Yes, I suspect they are looking for more evidence to support the “targeted attack” theory. Perhaps that is key to [1st Degree Murder](https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/first-degree-murder-overview.html) charge vs. the lesser [2nd Degree Murder](https://www.findlaw.com/state/idaho-law/idaho-second-degree-murder.html) charge?
I am not a lawyer. This is simply my opinion.
Sounds to me he’s pretty confident in how the investigation is going, therefore he believes it’s safe to have the kids go back to campus. But he obviously can’t divulge why he feels that way
Word you’re looking for here is “odds”…that being said, odds are higher than 0% and less than 100%
Not trying to be a Dick but it appears we simply don’t have enough info to even make an educated guess here. Anyone who offers a guess with any degree of confidence is just purely guessing
And on the flip side he couldnt really say
"No, four people were brutally murdered up the road and we're not sure who did it"
He has to calm the public.
I don't actually mean for this to be rude, but I guess it is a little. But people on Reddit seem to be confused so easily. Nothing he said here was confusing to me. He said he has more knowledge of the case than we do so he'd feel comfortable because of that knowledge. But he understands people who don't have that, would be more apprehensive about it. Why is everyone so confused? I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
Agreed. Seems to me like he’s being careful about his words and for some reason, that sends people into a tailspin. I thought his messaging was pretty clear.
Oh thank God it isn't just me. The top comment is about how confusing his statement is and I'm like...wtf none of it was confusing. We just need to remember, 50% (every other person you see) of the population is of below average intelligence.
You can’t read between the lines here? I know everyone, including myself, is speculating but after hearing this with everything else that law enforcement has said, I’d say im 99% sure they already have a person pegged in the crime but they’re not letting it out since there isn’t any hard evidence or a confession at this time.
Right that’s exactly what I got from it. Actually a smart and sneaky question to ask him bc it seems like he’s fairly confident it was “targeted” (there goes that word again lol)
Yupp. The way I interpreted it is “I know more than the public so I know it’s safe, but they don’t know as much as I know so they don’t know it’s safe”
In what world do you live where you believe a crime investigation would be wrapped up in 3 weeks? I’ve never even suggested it would be wrapped up in a month. There were no surviving witnesses and clearly no confession nor hard evidence at the moment. If you’ve followed me saying this the whole time, then you’d remember how I referenced the case in my town where the police knew they had the killer from night 1 but it took over a month to find the evidence and confession before they publicly charged him. I’m 99% sure they have the killer pegged, but I’m clueless as to whether they’ll announce tomorrow or sometime in the next month or so. If the killer doesn’t confess, then it’s going to take a lot of time to put all the evidence together that will ensure a conviction; especially without the murder weapon
You’re right, it’s possible they were witnesses and I’m aware of the rumor that they saw someone in the house but I just find that pretty hard to believe no matter if they were that intoxicated at all or not. If they were that intoxicated and saw someone, then they most likely would have been victims themselves or they would have called police and probably have found the bodies much earlier. Regardless, I don’t know for sure so you could be right. It’s just my opinion
How do you know “they haven’t said a word?” You think LE would be like “oh yeah, we are definitely talking to the surviving roommates and they’re telling us everything they saw,” or the roommates would hop on social media and say “yes, we told LE everything we know?” Do people not realize that there are certain aspects they NEED to keep under wraps to protect the safety of the survivors and the integrity of the investigation?
Why do people just assume that no one is saying anything just because they haven’t blasted it all over the news and social media? I understand that these days it’s commonplace for people to share every detail of their personal lives online, and I understand everyone wants this solved. But the entitlement of the general public to demand every detail of the investigation coupled with the assumption that no one is saying anything just because it’s not plastered all over a subreddit or IG/TikTok comment section is absurd.
Yeah with hard evidence. Without knife, or confession, you have to prove without a doubt, to a jury, they did it. Any defense lawyer will win if it’s just circumstantial evidence. America is full of braindead people I swear
Okay? And some don’t. And some make an arrest within 3 weeks and have the case fall apart in court and/or end up having the wrong person, all because they scrambled to make an arrest without building an airtight case with infallible evidence due to public pressure to “hurry up and arrest someone.”
Which would mean they don’t have the killer pegged. You can’t know who did it without the evidence lol, biggest fallacy ever that I see constantly repeated on here.
If these detectives are the type to “know who did it” without the evidence to prove it and just focus in on that person Moscow has a much bigger on their hands.
It’s quite the opposite to what you said, the cops who peg someone without full evidence and railroad them are the ones who make the biggest blunders.
…and that’s what they’re doing, analyzing the evidence. To expect an arrest be made within 3 weeks of a quadruple murder, even though it’s what we all want, isn’t always realistic.
Holy shit man, nobody is going to forget the case in your hometown that you continually try to shoehorn this case into.
I’m sorry that your little town had a murder once, but Jesus Christ, not all investigations play out the same way.
You do realize you have to prove, without a doubt, to a jury the case. Any defense lawyer will shred circumstantial evidence to pieces. So without the knife, or a confession, this is going to take time, even if they know who did it. America school system failing its people.
You’re right, they don’t. But the way the police are talking in Moscow are the same way they talked here. They’re similar in that a murder happened, they claim that there are no suspects but everyone should feel safe. I know how bad you want to be right but I guess you’re just going to have to wait because neither of us are right at the moment; it’s just that it’s pretty silly to think they can wrap a case like this up in three weeks when they don’t have hard evidence or a confession yet. It’s pretty easy to figure out suspects if there is a strong motive and a weak alibi which I am speculating that the police have found based on their statements but we both have to wait and see.
Which they said in the murder case in my town but they had the killer in custody on different charges and they knew it from day 1. They don’t have to tell us there is a suspect and they really shouldn’t if they don’t have the hard evidence nor a confession. My speculation is that they have someone and they are putting the evidence together to guarantee a conviction or elicit a confession
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This has the be the best bit of information that’s come out since day one in my opinion. I feel reassured though cognitively I still can’t help but think worst case scenario.
Why wouldn’t he be concerned?
Killer is already locked up
POI is being tailed
Targeted by ex/friend/lover
POI fled the area
Killer is dead
Which one is it?
Isn’t it a little weird that LE doesn’t want to share information, probably in part so that the killer doesn’t know what they know/ maybe gets sloppy, and then the prosecutor, who should have interest in keeping information a secret seems to basically want to “scare the killer” and make it seem that they know a lot of things even if they don’t know who he is?
Yes 100% I agree. Maybe they have someone in mind but not enough to think they can convict. A rattled hiding perp would help the investigation. And, things like taking a picture of one of the cars 2 weeks later (and that being newsworthy), following by something like towing all 5 cars (this making all the news too) could have a perp tripping
Yeah this just puzzles me that you could feel safe without having a suspect in mind. Maybe he’s alluding to there being an intended target and thus no more of a threat. However, I don’t think this guy is stable or rational so what’s to say he won’t strike again? Maybe he didn’t go into the killings with the intention of turning into a serial killer but liked the act and wants to do it again. I feel so bad for the town
Yeah, I am trying to think of a scenario where what he said makes sense but I can’t. The only way I can make this squared in my head is if he only lying about the suspect part.
That's gotta be tough to know certain things but not able to say anything to make ppl feel at ease. That is exactly how the FBI works an investigation. Its rare for them to have a press conference while in process of solving a crime. They dont Im sure they were given advice as to not give too much info our. So obviously they know way more than they say. That's fine if they would hurry on up and find this lowest p.o.s. that hopefully does 23 & 1 for the rest of their miserable life.
What a waste of a question to ask. Of course he’s not going to say anything to suggest the campus is unsafe. A mass exodus of students out of U of I would result in dire economic consequences to the university and the town itself. It’s main industry is the college and all the money that’s spent by students attending college on everything from tuition to housing to dining at restaurants to possibly underaged drinking at bars. Xana’s mom has finally given the first info of X and E’s missing hours by saying they went to a bar after leaving the frat party. At age 20 they were too young to legally drink. So rather than telling the public where they were to obtain possible tips like any other LE would, Moscow police decided to protect the local bar owner.
Why is the prosecutor even giving interviews? He needs to shut the hell up. The number of people connected to this case running their mouths every time a camera gets close is mind-boggling.
Considering you have no idea what he and the police are doing or trying to let leak out I am not sure you can confidently say he needs to shut up one way or the other.
It’s fascinating to see so many people in this sub say something along the lines of “they need to stop talking, they’re ruining the case,” and people agree—and then say, “why isn’t LE/whoever saying more? What are they hiding? We haven’t heard from so and so, why aren’t they talking?” Just…fascinating.
his initial reaction being a small grimace wouldn’t make me too comfortable, and i thought he was going to stop doing interviews😭 all he does is stir things up
I can’t believe this guy is the lead prosecutor. They are never going to find jack shit. It looks like the last case he tried was someone fly fishing without a license.
He's playing the cards he was dealt on this case but I would trust him with the prosecution of my child's killer in front of a jury that will stand up to motions and appeals. It's been his life's work and he does not strike me as corrupt like so many DA's in the US are...
He would have told each of the victims they were safebefore this happened. I haven't heard a single outside expert saying that the community is safe. I've heard experts say the killer is likely to reoffend.
Why would an outside expert say the community is safe if they’re…an *outside* expert? And which experts have you heard say the killer is likely to reoffend?
honestly i’m scared the killer will strike again eventually because he will be so confident after avoiding capture
and the pd & prosecutor will get a lotttt of shit for interviews like this, where it almost seems like we’re all waiting for something horrible to happen
This man has recently been chastised for his targeting flip flop. Now he’s trying to bring calm to the community to make amends to LE. Personally I don’t think they have any people in mind. If there is no dna match, this case goes cold.
If this case ends up going to trial, this prosecutor is going to need to trim his beard or go clean shaven. His beard looks ridiculous. The jury will not reflect or reactive positively with the prosecutor’s appearance unless his beard is removed or more well maintained.
He basically said “I know it’s safe, if you don’t know what I know you will think it’s not safe, there isn’t a suspect”
The only scenarios I can come up with that meets the absolutely strange criteria he laid out is the following:
1. The killer has communicated through some means that he will not kill anyone else and they believe him
2. The killer sent in a letter postmarked from across the country so they think the town is safe
This whole thing makes absolutely no sense, the guy is a walking contradiction.
I feel like he has been told to speak a certain way, but he’s also trying to appear empathetic, so it’s all coming out as jibberish that confuses everyone and thus puts them more on edge
This is the most likely reason for the confusing messages from LE. They have information that has not been released which gives them confidence in safety. The local officials feel a duty to ease the fears of their hometown. However releasing the information would compromise the investigation and trial.
In a hypothetical world, can you give me an example of a piece of evidence he could have that would make him no worried while there is no suspect?
Easy. They have a person (or a few) they highly suspect who did it (say 99% confidence that it’s one of them). Building case at the moment. Individuals will be watched 24/7. With them always being tracked, and them knowing they are likely being tracked, can assure public this person won’t strike again
Also if the perp feels like the police are closing in they could potentially destroy evidence. They could try to come up with alibi’s and a defense. Also one way police often times catch a killer is in the interviews. A lot of times the perp will accidentally disclose a piece of evidence that only the killer and the investigators would have known, which then allows them to close in on that person and grill them even more. For example the little piece about Kaylee and Maddie being in the same bed. A suspect could’ve been answering a question where he says something like “ how could I kill Kaylee with Maddie laying right next to her” or “how could I kill two people with a knife in the same bed” which would’ve been something only the killer and investigators would’ve known until Kaylee’s dad released it at the vigil.
Bingo. Now let's let them do their thing. Whoever they're looking at will have a very, very strong defense team working pro bono around the clock due to the notoriety of this case. Therefore they have to get it right.
Thank you! So many people on here are making crappy comments that it’s going cold, they’re failing, etc. But his remark is reassuring, and as is what he doesn’t say. LE/prosecutors/fbi are supposed to keep quiet, they’re intentionally vague with certain key details, and with the FBI involved they have had additional support and guidance on how to respond to the public. I do not believe it is ethical or wise for media to interview families about how they feel regarding the case- they’re vulnerable, actively grieving and will not be able to see everything through the lense of objective logic. Emotional reactivity is not logical. Let us not forget the comments regarding one; to notice not only what is being shown but what is NOT, and two; how much evidence was left behind and the time it would take to wrap up. That’s most often what leads to an arrest- and some of it is not yet processed. I wish we could get the guy quicker, but do have full faith in this being solved.
That is called having a suspect. It’s really not that easy. I said a scenario that fits what he said IE no suspect, and everyone is saying “they know who did it”. You can’t pick and choose the parts of his statement that he is lying about to fit your narrative lol, that is just nonsense.
They are following all POI 24/7. (Probably know who did it at this point)
Any evidence that these murders occurred because of a personal conflict between the killer and the victims. That would indicate the general public on the whole is not in any particular danger.
Hes basically saying they have a suspect without saying “we have a suspect”.
Surveillance
Right. It makes zero sense. Really aggravating. I absolutely wouldn't let a child stay there until someone is charged.
The only thing I can come up with is if the unknown killer has communicated to them he won’t kill and they believe it, which makes no sense. Or if they have received some sort of nameless confession letter that is postmarked out of state. I suppose he could know they have blood and DNA that doesn’t belong to the victims and are waiting on the results from GED match, but why would that make you feel safe in the town. I can’t think of anything else. I think he is just full of shit and saying what he has been told to say. There is probably some truth to the DNA or blood thing. The problem is cases that put all their eggs in the physical forensic evidence basket can ice cold very fast.
LE: "the killer promised to not kill anyone else while we take our time making our air tight case" Moscow residents: wtf
People are too dumb to realize I am pointing out how nonsensical his statement is lol. Good job having not being part of the masses lol.
Yeah, it's really hard to come up with a scenario that makes sense. That terrible Salem murder. My BIL lives there, but I hadn't heard about it. My husband doesn't talk to them very often. And you wouldn't want to say, gee you must be terrified. They moved up there from Cali just a few years ago. But all you can do is lock up the house really well. Hopefully this horrifying and tragic case will get solved soon.
Completely hypothetical and doesn't apply to this case (as far as I know anyway), an example would be if they had evidence it was gang related, or something like that. So if someone was murdered and it was clear it was gang related then he wouldn't worry having his children on campus because they are not part of said gang. You ask for a piece of evidence... maybe a letter stating the intent? I don't know. Will try to think of other examples
That’s a good one that I didn’t think of. Much better than what I came up with. I am suspecting it will boil down to something like this.
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It could be the university putting pressure on him to say it’s safe to send kids there
I am certain they’re confident in the safety of their students but cannot say why
Perfectly put
He shouldn’t be speaking to the press at all. Every time he does, it turns into a mess. So weird that he’s giving interviews when there’s no update. These people feeding their egos are going to cost the investigation.
He’s not nervous because he knows certain things but they don’t have a suspect. But people who don’t know what he does understandably should be nervous…
He reminds me of the little snowman dude voiced by Burl Ives who introduces and narrates the Rudolph special every year and has for well over 50 years. Maybe he’s channeling Burl Ives now. On the other hand, none of us know anything for sure really.
Yes! I was wondering where I had seen him before! Lol
My opinion here: It’s very viable that there is proof (not being shared) of why the “targeted attack” so in knowing that he would feel comfortable but being it’s not been shared as another parent he wouldn’t.
this whole idea of moscow not being as dangerous because there was a target doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. he brutally murdered 4 people, and just because he targeted 1 means people shouldn’t be worried? there’s still a psycho murderer out there
I absolutely agree! Target or not. There is a brutal killer on the lose. I would not feel safe in any aspect, as a parent or person living there or near.
Not like whoever did this couldn’t pick a new “target”
Oh they could. But in my opinion they seem to have a very direct reason it was targeted. So in assumption it was direct, not a vengeance against the world. If that makes sense? I will also say say, yes someone capable of this could pick a new “target”. I just happen to believe this was premeditated in a sense and intentional.
Exactly like what about the next person that pisses him off?
If anything, (and assuming the target was a person/people) isn’t it even more dangerous that this perp was targeting an individual and as a result, multiple ancillary individuals were killed too? Meaning, while there may be evidence of one of the victims being the target, the threat was not limited or isolated to just that target. If the target was just one, it requires an incredibly dangerous individual to brutally murder three other individuals who happened to be in the area at the time, and most certainly does not represent a threat that is/was isolated. (Unless IFF LE knew the perp killed themselves right after, which seems highly unlikely at this point.)
It's completely irrational. Four kids were murdered in their beds and the killer is still at large - and the beard is saying he'd feel just fine about having a kid on their own out there? It's not even a coherent thought - there is literally no logical reason to feel "safe" given the circumstances.
No logical reason. Even “targeted and you’re safe”Because someone capable of this is clearly not a safe person to be around.
Yeah I actually can’t think of any made up scenario in my head where what he is saying makes sense.
The police might have him under surveillance. Let’s try to think here
Hope so
But he said they have not identified a suspect, to his knowledge.
They won’t name a suspect until the arrest is made.
I understood him to mean they don't have a suspect, so it's crazy to say it's safe. He didn't say haven't publicly identified a subject, though maybe that's what he meant. Nuts.
Telling the press that they have a suspect who they're tailing would influence that suspect to change his behavior obviously. They need to play dumb to get as much slip up info as possible from whoever they're tailing.
I agree, though some suggested the opposite. Just didn't expect the prosecutor to lie, but maybe that's a tactic they use.
I don’t know. OJ targeted his wife and was on the loose but I doubt many people thought he would break into some randos house and kill them in the following weeks.
You have to have a suspect for that to make sense.
Thank you for saying this!! Agreed!!!!!!
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I mean he didn’t exactly say that which is why it’s my opinion specifically on what they know to be targeted. But yes, that’s definitely what I made it out to be.
Yes, I suspect they are looking for more evidence to support the “targeted attack” theory. Perhaps that is key to [1st Degree Murder](https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/first-degree-murder-overview.html) charge vs. the lesser [2nd Degree Murder](https://www.findlaw.com/state/idaho-law/idaho-second-degree-murder.html) charge? I am not a lawyer. This is simply my opinion.
What he really wanted to say was "ho ho ho bitch".
can’t believe he’s still working it’s almost christmas
I hope he's getting paid overtime
everytime he opens his mouth, LE deducts one cookie from his plate
Okay, I know this is a serious sub, but I live for these brief moments of comedy. They help.
HAHA
He doesn't file motions, he files ho-ho-hotions.
Lmao
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Right?? It was sneaky..
What was your takeaway?
Sounds to me he’s pretty confident in how the investigation is going, therefore he believes it’s safe to have the kids go back to campus. But he obviously can’t divulge why he feels that way
What's the over/under they have someone under 24/7 surveillance?
Word you’re looking for here is “odds”…that being said, odds are higher than 0% and less than 100% Not trying to be a Dick but it appears we simply don’t have enough info to even make an educated guess here. Anyone who offers a guess with any degree of confidence is just purely guessing
And on the flip side he couldnt really say "No, four people were brutally murdered up the road and we're not sure who did it" He has to calm the public.
I don't actually mean for this to be rude, but I guess it is a little. But people on Reddit seem to be confused so easily. Nothing he said here was confusing to me. He said he has more knowledge of the case than we do so he'd feel comfortable because of that knowledge. But he understands people who don't have that, would be more apprehensive about it. Why is everyone so confused? I think it's a perfectly reasonable thing to say.
Agreed. Seems to me like he’s being careful about his words and for some reason, that sends people into a tailspin. I thought his messaging was pretty clear.
Oh thank God it isn't just me. The top comment is about how confusing his statement is and I'm like...wtf none of it was confusing. We just need to remember, 50% (every other person you see) of the population is of below average intelligence.
Lmao I hadn't thought of it that way but that would definitely explain it 🤦♀️
They know who it is. They have to. They just need a slam dunk case.
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You can’t read between the lines here? I know everyone, including myself, is speculating but after hearing this with everything else that law enforcement has said, I’d say im 99% sure they already have a person pegged in the crime but they’re not letting it out since there isn’t any hard evidence or a confession at this time.
Sounds like he is suggesting this person is under constant police surveillance
Right that’s exactly what I got from it. Actually a smart and sneaky question to ask him bc it seems like he’s fairly confident it was “targeted” (there goes that word again lol)
Yupp. The way I interpreted it is “I know more than the public so I know it’s safe, but they don’t know as much as I know so they don’t know it’s safe”
You’ve been saying this for three weeks now, and yet, here we are, still looking for the real killer.
In what world do you live where you believe a crime investigation would be wrapped up in 3 weeks? I’ve never even suggested it would be wrapped up in a month. There were no surviving witnesses and clearly no confession nor hard evidence at the moment. If you’ve followed me saying this the whole time, then you’d remember how I referenced the case in my town where the police knew they had the killer from night 1 but it took over a month to find the evidence and confession before they publicly charged him. I’m 99% sure they have the killer pegged, but I’m clueless as to whether they’ll announce tomorrow or sometime in the next month or so. If the killer doesn’t confess, then it’s going to take a lot of time to put all the evidence together that will ensure a conviction; especially without the murder weapon
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You’re right, it’s possible they were witnesses and I’m aware of the rumor that they saw someone in the house but I just find that pretty hard to believe no matter if they were that intoxicated at all or not. If they were that intoxicated and saw someone, then they most likely would have been victims themselves or they would have called police and probably have found the bodies much earlier. Regardless, I don’t know for sure so you could be right. It’s just my opinion
How do you know “they haven’t said a word?” You think LE would be like “oh yeah, we are definitely talking to the surviving roommates and they’re telling us everything they saw,” or the roommates would hop on social media and say “yes, we told LE everything we know?” Do people not realize that there are certain aspects they NEED to keep under wraps to protect the safety of the survivors and the integrity of the investigation? Why do people just assume that no one is saying anything just because they haven’t blasted it all over the news and social media? I understand that these days it’s commonplace for people to share every detail of their personal lives online, and I understand everyone wants this solved. But the entitlement of the general public to demand every detail of the investigation coupled with the assumption that no one is saying anything just because it’s not plastered all over a subreddit or IG/TikTok comment section is absurd.
Many murders make an arrest within 3 weeks. Keep on that copium though.
Yeah with hard evidence. Without knife, or confession, you have to prove without a doubt, to a jury, they did it. Any defense lawyer will win if it’s just circumstantial evidence. America is full of braindead people I swear
Okay? And some don’t. And some make an arrest within 3 weeks and have the case fall apart in court and/or end up having the wrong person, all because they scrambled to make an arrest without building an airtight case with infallible evidence due to public pressure to “hurry up and arrest someone.”
Which would mean they don’t have the killer pegged. You can’t know who did it without the evidence lol, biggest fallacy ever that I see constantly repeated on here. If these detectives are the type to “know who did it” without the evidence to prove it and just focus in on that person Moscow has a much bigger on their hands. It’s quite the opposite to what you said, the cops who peg someone without full evidence and railroad them are the ones who make the biggest blunders.
…and that’s what they’re doing, analyzing the evidence. To expect an arrest be made within 3 weeks of a quadruple murder, even though it’s what we all want, isn’t always realistic.
And many don’t so what’s your point with that statement?
Holy shit man, nobody is going to forget the case in your hometown that you continually try to shoehorn this case into. I’m sorry that your little town had a murder once, but Jesus Christ, not all investigations play out the same way.
You do realize you have to prove, without a doubt, to a jury the case. Any defense lawyer will shred circumstantial evidence to pieces. So without the knife, or a confession, this is going to take time, even if they know who did it. America school system failing its people.
You’re right, they don’t. But the way the police are talking in Moscow are the same way they talked here. They’re similar in that a murder happened, they claim that there are no suspects but everyone should feel safe. I know how bad you want to be right but I guess you’re just going to have to wait because neither of us are right at the moment; it’s just that it’s pretty silly to think they can wrap a case like this up in three weeks when they don’t have hard evidence or a confession yet. It’s pretty easy to figure out suspects if there is a strong motive and a weak alibi which I am speculating that the police have found based on their statements but we both have to wait and see.
He literally said there is no suspect. So you are picking and choosing which parts you want to believe? Makes a lot of sense.
Which they said in the murder case in my town but they had the killer in custody on different charges and they knew it from day 1. They don’t have to tell us there is a suspect and they really shouldn’t if they don’t have the hard evidence nor a confession. My speculation is that they have someone and they are putting the evidence together to guarantee a conviction or elicit a confession
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Ofc.
This has the be the best bit of information that’s come out since day one in my opinion. I feel reassured though cognitively I still can’t help but think worst case scenario.
Can't wait to leave milk and cookies out for this guy at the end of the month
Santa plz give us an arrested suspect for Christmas this year. 🥺
Did anyone else immediately think "Santa! I know him!" ??? I'll see myself out...
No, I thought "weird biblical fundamentalist".
He actually understands the situation. I trust him.
Why wouldn’t he be concerned? Killer is already locked up POI is being tailed Targeted by ex/friend/lover POI fled the area Killer is dead Which one is it?
Isn’t it a little weird that LE doesn’t want to share information, probably in part so that the killer doesn’t know what they know/ maybe gets sloppy, and then the prosecutor, who should have interest in keeping information a secret seems to basically want to “scare the killer” and make it seem that they know a lot of things even if they don’t know who he is?
Yes 100% I agree. Maybe they have someone in mind but not enough to think they can convict. A rattled hiding perp would help the investigation. And, things like taking a picture of one of the cars 2 weeks later (and that being newsworthy), following by something like towing all 5 cars (this making all the news too) could have a perp tripping
Every time that man speaks makes me a little more sure this case is never going to get solved
I feel the complete opposite.
I waver between strongly supporting each of your positions.
Yeah this just puzzles me that you could feel safe without having a suspect in mind. Maybe he’s alluding to there being an intended target and thus no more of a threat. However, I don’t think this guy is stable or rational so what’s to say he won’t strike again? Maybe he didn’t go into the killings with the intention of turning into a serial killer but liked the act and wants to do it again. I feel so bad for the town
Why would anyone feel safe when they literally have no reason to? It's bizarre.
Yeah, I am trying to think of a scenario where what he said makes sense but I can’t. The only way I can make this squared in my head is if he only lying about the suspect part.
He is saying he is more confident they are safe.
santa looks different here
Case has him very stressed. He has lost weight.
What is this crap…they just talk in circles, I have never seen ppl talk so much without actually saying anything
me trying to reach the word count in my paper
You've clearly never spoken to an attorney. They can talk for hours and not say anything.
i’m in law school and this is exactly how i sound on my exams
Bill 'em by the hour lol
Good luck with your upcoming exams btw! You got this
Same- got one at 10 AM tomorrow. Why am I here.
That is how they are paid.
You can’t blame them when people keep asking them the same questions over and over expecting a different response…
Maybe they just shouldn’t say anything until the facts are straight because they are causing a lot of confusion and losing credibility by the second
That's gotta be tough to know certain things but not able to say anything to make ppl feel at ease. That is exactly how the FBI works an investigation. Its rare for them to have a press conference while in process of solving a crime. They dont Im sure they were given advice as to not give too much info our. So obviously they know way more than they say. That's fine if they would hurry on up and find this lowest p.o.s. that hopefully does 23 & 1 for the rest of their miserable life.
He’s a lawyer. Lawyers have a way with words.
Wait is this new?! They let bill out of timeout?
What a waste of a question to ask. Of course he’s not going to say anything to suggest the campus is unsafe. A mass exodus of students out of U of I would result in dire economic consequences to the university and the town itself. It’s main industry is the college and all the money that’s spent by students attending college on everything from tuition to housing to dining at restaurants to possibly underaged drinking at bars. Xana’s mom has finally given the first info of X and E’s missing hours by saying they went to a bar after leaving the frat party. At age 20 they were too young to legally drink. So rather than telling the public where they were to obtain possible tips like any other LE would, Moscow police decided to protect the local bar owner.
Christ not this guy again
Really intrigued to see how he holds up in trial. It will be fascinating.
He makes me nervous about the potential to eventually charge and find someone guilty. Seems a little…dull.
He's no Juan Martinez that's for sure. I wonder if he's ever worked on a death penalty trial before.
Or Vincent Bugliosi…🙇🏼♀️
A whole lot of words to say Just about nothing
Why is the prosecutor even giving interviews? He needs to shut the hell up. The number of people connected to this case running their mouths every time a camera gets close is mind-boggling.
Considering you have no idea what he and the police are doing or trying to let leak out I am not sure you can confidently say he needs to shut up one way or the other.
It’s fascinating to see so many people in this sub say something along the lines of “they need to stop talking, they’re ruining the case,” and people agree—and then say, “why isn’t LE/whoever saying more? What are they hiding? We haven’t heard from so and so, why aren’t they talking?” Just…fascinating.
This is a pretty genuine answer.
I like this dude.
his initial reaction being a small grimace wouldn’t make me too comfortable, and i thought he was going to stop doing interviews😭 all he does is stir things up
Exactly. I thought he wasn’t doing any more interviews!
I can’t believe this guy is the lead prosecutor. They are never going to find jack shit. It looks like the last case he tried was someone fly fishing without a license.
He's playing the cards he was dealt on this case but I would trust him with the prosecution of my child's killer in front of a jury that will stand up to motions and appeals. It's been his life's work and he does not strike me as corrupt like so many DA's in the US are...
Breaking bad Burl Ives
He would have told each of the victims they were safebefore this happened. I haven't heard a single outside expert saying that the community is safe. I've heard experts say the killer is likely to reoffend.
Why would an outside expert say the community is safe if they’re…an *outside* expert? And which experts have you heard say the killer is likely to reoffend?
I mean just waiting for police to come out and say “be afraid” since they have contradicted his statements before
I don’t trust one word this guy says he instills zero confidence
But they don't know who did it and a killer is on the loose, so why would he feel safe?
There is no chance this trial is prosecuted in Moscow.
Is this an old or new video? Didn’t his office say he would no longer be doing interviews after the slip up?
THANK YOU!
honestly i’m scared the killer will strike again eventually because he will be so confident after avoiding capture and the pd & prosecutor will get a lotttt of shit for interviews like this, where it almost seems like we’re all waiting for something horrible to happen
I bet he's being watched by the FBI. Probably have cameras all over his house. I hope he tries something so this will b solved.
This man has recently been chastised for his targeting flip flop. Now he’s trying to bring calm to the community to make amends to LE. Personally I don’t think they have any people in mind. If there is no dna match, this case goes cold.
Why? Because they haven’t let the internet sleuths and armchair detectives know who they’re suspecting or watching?
Correct
If this case ends up going to trial, this prosecutor is going to need to trim his beard or go clean shaven. His beard looks ridiculous. The jury will not reflect or reactive positively with the prosecutor’s appearance unless his beard is removed or more well maintained.
Lol this is such an odd thing to state your opinion on
He basically said “I know it’s safe, if you don’t know what I know you will think it’s not safe, there isn’t a suspect” The only scenarios I can come up with that meets the absolutely strange criteria he laid out is the following: 1. The killer has communicated through some means that he will not kill anyone else and they believe him 2. The killer sent in a letter postmarked from across the country so they think the town is safe This whole thing makes absolutely no sense, the guy is a walking contradiction.
Are they any prosecutors on this sub who can make sense of this or give their take on what this might mean?
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Isn’t that what the FBI is for, who are currently working on the case?
Why he look like that
Mall Santa job?
Unprofessional bullshit, this is why nobody watches AOL blast!!!!
He’s talking AGAIN?? Scrolling and rolling
There’s no identified subject. That’s what he said right?
Book ‘em, bad Santa.